Dirt And Vert

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By: East Coast Adventures

Run, party, repeat! Welcome to the East Coast Adventures Dirt and Vert podcast, where we talk all things running, racing, and training to help you get ready for your next big adventure. Learn from our successes and our failures, and have fun at the same time. Join us right here, every week with inspiring guests who share their captivating tales from the trails. And remember, nobody cares... run faster!!

Built on Miles: Michael & Nicholas Leo's Unbreakable Bond
#93
Last Wednesday at 11:10 AM

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an incredible story that truly embodies the spirit of endurance, family, and grit! We're honored to sit down with Michael and Nicholas Leo, a dynamic father-son duo whose journey in ultra running is nothing short of inspiring.

Michael shares his path from various sports to finding his calling in running, while Nicholas, inspired by his dad, started pounding the pavement at a young age. They dive deep into their experiences at the challenging Mid-State Mile, revealing the lessons learned about training, crucial nutrition, and the mental...


Callie Strong: Running Across Tennessee for Hope with Tyson, Clay, & Johnny
#93
06/27/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, get ready for a story that will move your heart and inspire your soles! We're honored to sit down with Tyson, Clay, and Johnny, three inspirational runners who embarked on an extraordinary journey: running across Tennessee for a cause that means the world to them โ€“ raising awareness and funds for Callie, a young girl with a rare medical condition.Clay shares his powerful personal transformation, from an overweight youth to the ultra runner he is today, and how that journey intertwined with the profound motivation behind the Callie Strong Run. We di...


Bad Beard & Beyond: Ginny Smith's Race Director & Ultrarunning Journey
#92
06/20/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up and hitting the trails with Ginny Smith, a prominent race director for Bad Beard Events and an ultra runner whoโ€™s all about building community, one stride at a time!

Ginny takes us on her inspiring journey from pounding pavement to embracing the trails after moving to Chattanooga. She opens up about the wild ride of becoming a race director โ€“ from the early challenges to learning the art of delegation โ€“ all fueled by her passion for connecting people through running.

We dive deep into why co...


From Zombie Apocalypse to Tennessee's Mid-State Mile with RD's Jon Cox and Becca Jones
#91
06/13/2025

Alright, get ready for an episode that's as wild as a zombie apocalypse (and as inspiring as crossing a state on foot)! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're welcoming the awesome duo, Jon Cox and Becca Jones from BMFJ Events and the infamous Mid-State Mile! Becca and Jon takes us on a truly unique running journey โ€“ from initial motivation to survive a zombie apocalypse (seriously!) to finding joy in the grit of ultra running. They open up about the mental health aspects of hitting the trails, the critical role of pacing, and her absolutely incredible achievement of...


From Course Records to Comebacks: Our Ultra Journey Continues
#90
06/12/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, it's a special episode with your hosts, David, Matt, and Mary, as we dive into our recent race experiences, the highs, the lows, and the grit it takes to keep showing up!

Matt's sharing all the secrets behind his incredible course record at Johnston Woods โ€“ 60.9 miles of pure determination! We'll get into his fueling strategies and what it took to push past the limits. Mary opens up about her own recent race, facing down some tough health challenges and finding strength in unexpected places, even sharing how vision therapy pl...


The Grit of Growth: Kyle's Journey Through Discomfort and A Very Epic DNF Story
#89
06/06/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up and diving into the incredible journey of Kyle Kraeft, an ultra runner who knows a thing or two about pushing through when everything screams "STOP!"

Kyle takes us back to his very first steps into the ultra world, sharing the raw, real challenges he faced in those early races and the hard-earned lessons that shaped him. We'll hear about his leaps to longer distances, including his first 100K and the notorious Georgia Death Race, where he faced physical and mental hurdles that would break most people.<...


Cruel Jewel, Kind Heart: Shannon Wheeler's Relentless Pursuit
#88
05/24/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the world of grit and grace with the phenomenal Shannon Wheeler! She's not just an ultra runner; she's a force of nature who's tackled some of the toughest races out there.

Shannon takes us on her incredible journey, from finding solace in running in her mid-30s to crushing races like the Cruel Jewel 100 (which she compares to childbirth โ€“ you know it was tough!) and battling through the rugged Palisades 100. We'll hear all about the mental strength it takes to push through pain, the importance of...


The RunFluent Revolution: Chris Stangle's Passion for the Trails & Community
#87
05/15/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're tackling a story that's a touchdown for the running community! We're hanging out with Chris Stangle, a former football player who traded his helmet for a headlamp and is now not only crushing ultra marathons but also orchestrating some seriously awesome races!

Chris takes us on his unexpected journey from the gridiron to the grueling world of ultras, sharing how he discovered his love for endurance and the challenges he faced along the way. But what really shines through is his passion for the running community. We'll talk...


From Fighting Fires to Fueling Miles: Nick Bianchini's Ultra Story
#86
05/10/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're strapping on our headlamps and hitting the trails with Nick Bianchini, a true force of nature who went from battling wildfires to crushing ultra marathons! ๐Ÿ”ฅ

Nick's journey is a wild ride, and he's not holding back. We're talking about how he traded the smoke and flames for sweat and dirt, using running as his escape and his freedom. He opens up about his battles with addiction and how lacing up his shoes became his lifeline.

But it hasn't been all smooth trails. Nick shares the gritty det...


Bound Together: Katie Baksa's Running Journey and Running Brand
#85
04/30/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're hanging out with Katie Baksa, a total rockstar who's gone from kicking soccer balls to crushing marathons (like, Olympic Trials level crushing!). But her story isn't just about speed and PRs; it's a hilarious and inspiring look at a messy, beautiful journey of a runner who's not afraid to chase big dreams (and maybe stumble a little along the way - that humbling 5K story is gold!).

Katie spills the beans on her ultra and trail running adventures, her training secrets (fueled by recovery drinks and maybe a...


Finding Our Tribe: Terry Chiplin and the US Trail Running Conference Story
#84
04/24/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the heart of the trail running community with a very special guest: Terry Chiplin, the driving force behind the US Trail Running Conference!

Terry shares his personal and inspiring journey into running, from his childhood in England to the transformative landscapes of Colorado. We'll hear about the spark that ignited his passion for the sport and how that passion led to the creation of the US Trail Running Conference.

But this isn't just about a conference; it's about the incredible community that makes...


Finding Purpose on the Appalachian Trail: Kristian Morgan
#83
04/18/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Kristian Morgan, an ultra runner whose journey is nothing short of epic. And get this โ€“ he currently holds the second fastest time in BOTH directions on the Appalachian Trail and he's going back in 2025 for another attempt!

Kristian takes us on his incredible adventure, from tackling the legendary Appalachian Trail to his relentless pursuit of the Fastest Known Time (FKT). We'll hear about the challenges, the triumphs, and the hard-earned wisdom he's gained along the way.

But it's not just about the miles. Kristian op...


Running Against the Odds: Lindsey Sexton's Ultra Triumph
#81
04/15/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredibly inspiring Lindsey Sexton, a two-time No Business 100 finisher whose journey proves that strength and resilience can conquer any obstacle.

Lindsey takes us on her remarkable path, from her early days starting a cross-country team in high school to facing down breast cancer and emerging to complete ultra marathons. We'll hear about her motivations, the challenges she's overcome, and the raw emotion of crossing that finish line after her battle.

Lindsey emphasizes the vital role of community support, the power of mental strength...


Running for Hope: Kallup McCoy II's Transcontinental Journey (LIVE UPDATE)
#82
04/12/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an extraordinary live update from the road! We're checking in with Kallup McCoy II, an inspiring indigenous runner who's embarking on an epic journey across America, a feat accomplished by few indigenous runners since 1928.

Kallup is sharing the raw, real-time experience of this incredible endeavor. We'll hear about the challenges he's facing, the unwavering support of his crew and community, and the profound purpose that fuels his every step: to raise awareness about health issues and substance use disorder.

This isn't just a story...


Pink Floyd & Pain Caves: Alec Cline's Ultra Strategies
#80
04/04/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Alec Cline, an ultra runner who just has the fastest 50 mile top performance time currently this year.

Alec's journey is a wild ride, and he's sharing all the details. We're talking about the switch from pavement pounding to trail racing, the mind-bending challenges of ultra racing, and how he learned to push through the pain when his body was screaming "STOP!"

But it's not just about the suffering (okay, maybe a little). Alec's dropping knowledge bombs on training strategies, fueling secrets, and the mental...


Michael Wardian's Wild Ride: From Boston to Badwater to Running across America
#79
04/01/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the one and only Michael Wardian, an endurance athlete who's not just a runner, he's a legend. He holds multiple FKT's and American Records.

Michael takes us on his incredible journey, from his early days hitting the pavement to becoming a record-breaking ultra marathoner. We'll dive into his experiences at iconic races like the Boston Marathon, the brutal Badwater, and the historic JFK 50.

But it's not just about the races. Michael shares his thoughts on the power of community, the science of nutrition, and...


Grit, Grace, and Southern States: Ashlie Ithurburn's 200-Mile Triumph
#78
03/28/2025

Alright, buckle up, Dirt and Vert listeners! This week, we're chatting with a badass ultra runner who just crushed the Southern States 200, taking home third overall and leaving them in the dust. That's right, we're talking about the incredible Ashlie Ithurburn!

Ashlie's journey is a wild ride, and she's taking us all the way from those "boring" old road races to the gritty, glorious world of ultra marathons. We'll hear about her first 100-miler, the epic challenge of switching to trail running, and what it really takes to survive (and thrive!) in those multi-day death marches.

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From Setbacks to Success: Cory Clark's Ultra Comeback
#77
03/20/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the world of grit and camaraderie with Cory Clark, a runner whose journey proves that transformation is always within reach.

Cory takes us from his high school athletic days to his full-blown love affair with ultra running, a world where mental fortitude is just as crucial as physical endurance. We talk about the challenges he's faced, from battling injuries to pushing through the pain, and how he's learned to embrace the power of community.

But it's not just about the miles. We explore...


The Darrah Wiseman Story: A Champion's Heart
#76
03/14/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're sharing a story of extraordinary talent, unwavering spirit, and a legacy that continues to inspire. We're honored to welcome Chris and Melissa Wiseman, parents of the remarkable Darrah Wiseman, a young athlete from Tennessee whose life left an indelible mark.

Chris and Melissa recount Darrah's journey, from her early years in sports to her exceptional achievements in track and field, including her 6 state championships. We explore the dedication, the passion, and the sheer talent that made Darrah a shining star.

This episode is more than just...


The Ultra Explorer: Gavin Woody's Worldwide Running Adventures
#75
03/07/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, buckle up for an adventure-packed episode with ultra runner extraordinaire, Gavin Woody!

Gavin's tackled some of the most epic races on the planet, from Badwater 135, Hardrock, UTMB and even the Iditarod Trail Invitational. We dive deep into his journey from casual runner to ultra legend, and how he's learned to embrace challenges, push his limits, and find strength in the ultra community.

Gavin opens up about the importance of setting goals, building daily habits, and learning from both victories and setbacks. So if you're ready for a...


The Race That Wouldn't Break Him: Zandy Mangold's Ultra Story
#74
02/28/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the inspiring Zandy Mangold, an ultra runner who's not afraid to chase those epic challenges.

Zandy takes us on his incredible journey, from those early days on the trails to tackling the legendary Spartathlon, one of the toughest ultra marathons in the world. We talk about the highs and lows, the lessons learned, and the transformative power of running.

Zandy opens up about the importance of coaching and mentorship, the strength of the running community, and how his passion for the sport has shaped...


Running with Grit and Glory: Zack Lever's Ultra Mission
#73
02/21/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're trading in our trail shoes for combat boots as we welcome Zack Lever, an ultra runner and military veteran who's tougher than a tank! Zack shares his journey from a small logging town to a 20-year military career, and how he found solace and strength in ultra running after retirement. We talk about his early experiences on the trails, the challenges he faced in grueling races like Vol State and HOTS, and the mental and physical strategies he used to overcome obstacles.But it's not just about the miles. Zack...


Shedding the Past: Tyson Black's Ultra Redemption
#72
02/14/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Tyson Black, an ultra runner whose story will leave you inspired and filled with hope.

Tyson shares his journey from a place of personal struggle and loss to finding strength and healing on the trails. He speaks with raw honesty about the mental battles he faced, the importance of community support, and how running became his lifeline during those dark times.

But it's not just about the miles. Tyson opens up about the challenges he encountered during races, the mental strategies he...


Fierce Dragon, Fierce Spirit: Justin Hamilton's Ultra Journey
#71
02/07/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Justin Hamilton, an ultra runner whose story will leave you breathless and inspired.

Justin doesn't hold back, sharing his journey from casual runner to ultra marathoner, and how those pivotal moments in his life, including military service, struggles with alcohol, and personal tragedy, shaped his path. We talk about the importance of finding balance amidst the chaos of life, and how Justin's found strength in the ultra community.

But it's not just about the miles. Justin opens up about the mental and...


Running Through Resilience: Anny Borisov's Story of Triumph
#70
02/01/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Anny Borisov, a runner whose journey is a testament to the power of resilience and the human spirit. Anny's story isn't just about miles and finish lines; it's about overcoming obstacles, finding strength in adversity, and embracing the transformative power of running.

Anny shares her inspiring journey from Bulgaria to the United States, and how a battle with breast cancer ignited her passion for running. We talk about her transition from 5Ks to marathons and ultras, her love for Spartan races, and the challenges...


The Power of the Run: Stewart Ellington's Journey of Resilience and Determination
#72
01/24/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Stewart Ellington, a highly accomplisher runner and coach whose story will leave you inspired and fired up to chase your own dreams. Stew doesn't hold back, sharing his journey from a troubled past to finding his footing in the world of running that lead to to running at the University of Tennessee. We talk about those pivotal moments that led him to running, the challenges he faced, and the lessons learned along the way. It's a reminder that sometimes, the toughest battles are the ones we fight within ourselves. ...


Chasing Ultra Dreams: Coree Woltering's Global Pursuit
#68
01/17/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by ultra runner Coree Woltering, a guy who's not afraid to chase those wild ultra dreams.

Coree takes us on his journey from multi-sport athlete to dedicated ultra runner, sharing those early experiences and the lessons learned along the way. We talk about his first ultra, the challenges he faced, and how he discovered the importance of fueling his body for those long hauls.

But it's not just about the miles. Coree opens up about some of his most memorable races, including the Dunes 100 and...


Grit and Grace: Jamie Saunders' Ultra Journey
#67
01/11/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Jamie Saunders, an ultra runner who embodies the true spirit of grit and grace.

Jamie's journey is one of pushing limits, overcoming obstacles, and discovering the strength within. We talk about her evolution from competitive sports to tackling those grueling ultra courses, including the Miami 100 and her recent victory at the Trident 80-Miler.

But it's not just about the miles. Jamie opens up about the power of community, the mental toughness it takes to succeed in ultra running, and the importance of...


Chasing the Natchez Trace: An FKT Journey with John Hardin & Keith Overbay
#65
01/05/2025

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up our boots and hitting the trail with John Hardin & Keith Overbay as they talk about crewing and setting the Natchez Trace FKT.

We're not just talking about the miles and the records. We dive deep into the heart and soul of these FKT attempts, exploring the meticulous preparation, the emotional rollercoasters, and the physical challenges that push runners to their limits. It's a raw and honest look at what it takes to chase those big, audacious goals.

But it's not just about grit and...


Tis the Season for Ultra Adventures: A Holiday Episode
12/26/2024

It's a Christmas special on the Dirt and Vert Podcast! This week, we're taking a look back sharing the highs, the lows, and the lessons learned along the way. We dive into hydration, nutrition, and how important it is to find a community that supports your running journey. It's a reminder that we're all in this together, and those connections make all the difference. We also talk about some of our upcoming races, and offer some tips for runners of all levels. Whether you're just starting out or a seasoned pro, it's all about preparation, consistency, and finding the joy...


Mountain Highs: Michael Basuini's Passion for the Trails
#64
12/20/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Michael Basuini, an accomplished ultra runner and coach who embodies the true spirit of the sport.

Mike's journey is one of passion, perseverance, and a deep love for the trails. He shares his evolution from mountain biker to runner, his experiences in college athletics, and the transition to coaching others. We talk about those early ultra races, the lessons learned, and how coaching has evolved over time.

But it's not just about training plans and finish lines. Mike dives into the importance...


From Diagnosis to Destiny: Alicia McClary's Ultra Transformation
12/13/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Alicia McClary, an ultra runner whose story will leave you speechless. Alicia's journey is one of resilience, determination, and the power of the human spirit to overcome even the toughest challenges. We talk about her incredible transformation from cancer survivor to endurance athlete, and how running became her lifeline during those difficult times. Alicia opens up about the physical and mental hurdles she's faced, including a serious health scare that nearly derailed her dreams. It's a raw and honest look at the grit and determination it...


Ultra RX: Rachel Drake's Prescription for Success
#61
12/07/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredible Rachel Drake, a newly minted doctor who also happens to be an amazing ultra runner who just shattered the women's course record at the JFK 50! Rachel's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We hear about her evolution from high school track star to ultra marathoner, including the Mackenzie River 50K where she met her husband. We dive deep into the challenges of those 100-mile races, the power of the running community, and the lessons she's learned along the way. But it's not just about breaking records. Rachel...


Ultra Rising: Whitney Dancaster's Journey of Determination
#61
12/03/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we were honored to have ultra runner Whitney Dancaster join us. Her story is one of incredible resilience and determination.

Whitney shared her inspiring journey into the world of ultras, from those early races to taking on incredible challenges like the Keys 100 and Long Haul 100. She spoke with such honesty about the obstacles she faced in her first ultra, and how she discovered the strength to overcome them.

But it's not just about pushing limits. Whitney highlighted the incredible community within the ultra world, and how those...


Fueling the Fire: Leah Mulligan's Passion for Running
#60
11/27/2024

On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of sitting down with Leah Mulligan, an incredible ultra runner from Chattanooga. Leah's story is all about passion, perseverance, and the power of community.

We traced her journey from those early running days to her leap into the ultra world, and how her family and the running community fueled her every step of the way. Leah also opened up about her training, the dynamics of working with a coach, and the challenges she faced in those first ultra races.

But it's not just about...


Tara & Rascal: One Trail, One Team. Chasing Time.
#41
11/21/2024

On this week's Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by ultra-badass Tara Dower and her incredible crew member, Rascal, to talk about Tara's recent Fastest Known Time (FKT) attempt on the Appalachian Trail. Tara's journey is nothing short of inspiring. We get into the nitty-gritty of her training, the challenges she faced on the trail, and the mental fortitude it takes to chase such a massive goal. Rascal pulls back the curtain on what it's like to support an FKT attempt. From coordinating logistics to providing on-the-ground support, it's a masterclass in teamwork and problem-solving. But this isn't just a...


The Gratitude Grind: David Sullivan's Ultra Fuel
#39
11/16/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we had the pleasure of chatting with ultra runner David Sullivan. David's journey in the ultra world is nothing short of inspiring, and he shared some incredible insights with us. We talked about his evolution from casual runner to podium finisher, and how gratitude and community have played a huge role in his success. David also emphasized the mental side of racing โ€“ how important it is to stay focused and resilient when the going gets tough. Of course, we couldn't forget about the physical challenges of ultra running! David dove into the im...


Ron Wireman: No Finish Line in Sight
#38
11/12/2024

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we sat down with ultra runner Ron Wireman. Ron's no stranger to pushing limits, and he shared some incredible stories from his experiences at Bob's Backyard Ultra and Big's Backyard Ultra.

We dove deep into the nitty-gritty of backyard ultras, from the unique challenges they present to the incredible camaraderie among runners. Ron opened up about his training, race day strategies, and how he fuels himself to keep going.

But it's not just about the physical stuff. Ron got real about the mental battles he faced during...


Meg Eckert: Queen of the Backyard Ultra
#37
11/05/2024

Shattering records with 526 miles in 6 days at the Dome and the most recent female world record at Big's Backyard Ultra with a jaw-dropping 362 miles! That's the mind-boggling distances ultra runner Meg Eckert has achieved in 2024. On this episode of Dirt and Vert, Meg takes us inside this incredible feat of endurance, sharing the mental and physical hurdles she overcame. From her transition to trail running to tackling her first 100-miler, Meg reveals the challenges and triumphs that have shaped her ultra journey. Plus, she dives deep into the crucial role of nutrition, recovery, and mental resilience in pushing human...


Heather Watson: Running with the Angels and Paramedics
#36
10/27/2024

Imagine collapsing mid-marathon, waking up in the hospital, and facing the possibility of never walking again. That's exactly what happened to ultra runner Heather Watson. In this episode, Heather shares her harrowing experience of suffering a stroke during a race, the surreal moments she experienced while unconscious, and the critical role a paramedic played in saving her life. Hear how she fought back with unwavering determination, battling communication difficulties and fear during her hospitalization, to embark on a remarkable journey of recovery fueled by resilience, community support, and the joy of running.