Dirt And Vert

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, David and Matt are dropping some massive announcements that will shape the next two years of trail running in the Southeast!

We are officially announcing a heavy-hitting collaboration with Yeti Trail Runners for a brand-new race in Sevierville, and giving you the lowdown on the legendary (and slightly chaotic) Taco Bell 50K—a free event that proves ultra running doesn't always have to be serious to be a challenge.

We look ahead to why 2026 is going to be the biggest year yet for East Coast Adventures (ECA). Pl...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we’re joined by Kayla Fitzgerald, the force behind Palmetto Ultras, whose journey from "hating running" to directing unique endurance events is a masterclass in mental strength and community building.

Kayla gets real about how running started as a rare moment of personal peace amidst parenting responsibilities and quickly evolved into a spontaneous dive into the world of ultras. We discuss her transition into race directing, where she stepped up to keep her local ultra scene alive, even when faced with "sink-or-swim" challenges like unexpected flooding in the Francis Ma...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with John Calabrese, an ultra runner whose journey proves that sometimes, the hardest parts of life lead you straight to the starting line!

John opens up about how personal struggles, including a divorce, fueled his passion and led him from the road to the trail. We dive deep into the mental challenges of ultra running, sharing hilarious anecdotes about the hallucinations that come with extreme fatigue (seriously, what did he see?!).

But John's story is bigger than miles and mirages. He shares his...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to welcome the incredible Ashlie! Her story is proof that hard work, meticulous planning, and a little bit of community magic can lead to extraordinary achievements.

Ashlie takes us behind the scenes of her monumental achievement: setting the Pinhoti FKT! We dive into the year-long logistics, the crucial nutrition adjustments, and how she learned to "burn the boats" for total commitment. She shares the raw, honest truth about the challenges faced during the FKT and the sheer relief and celebration...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joining forces with the dynamic Mariah Fields, a remarkable ultra runner who now leads the pack as Race Director for Coyote Ugly Racing!

Mariah takes us on her incredible journey, starting from battling exercise-induced asthma in middle school to finding her strength on the ultra trails after having children. She opens up about the tough lessons learned, including the grueling heat of Cruel Jewel, and the powerful mental health benefits that running provides.

We dive deep into the world of Coyote Ugly Racing—how the name re...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're sitting down with an emerging ultra phenom, Hans Troyer! His journey is a testament to raw talent, resilience, and the power of setting audacious goals.

Hans takes us from his days dreaming of football and basketball to finding his true calling on the trails. He gets real about the lessons learned the hard way—like the early struggles with fueling and hydration—and the remarkable comeback after a serious injury that only fueled his fire.

We dive into his incredible 2025 season, where he racked up multiple top...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, your hosts David and Matt are pulling back the curtain on the tough lessons and big wins from their latest ultra adventures!

We're diving straight into the deep end, starting with the Yeti 100, where David faced down some serious health issues and learned, once again, that ultra running is less about the legs and more about the fight. Then, Matt brings the good news, sharing his successful strategy and grit from the Blue Ridge Ultra!

This episode is packed with real-world takeaways on mastering the fundamentals: the...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to have a familiar voice and a cornerstone of our community: Mike Taylor, co-founder of East Coast Adventures!

Mike takes us through his deeply personal and inspiring journey, from his early days in sports to the unexpected moment he dove headfirst into marathons. He opens up about how running became a therapeutic outlet during challenging times, proving that the trails can truly heal.

We dive into the founding story of East Coast Adventures—how a shared passion between Mike and David grew into a force fo...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, your hosts David and Matt are pulling back the curtain on the tough lessons and big wins from their latest ultra adventures!

We're diving straight into the deep end, starting with the Yeti 100, where David faced down some serious health issues and learned, once again, that ultra running is less about the legs and more about the fight. Then, Matt brings the good news, sharing his successful strategy and grit from the Blue Ridge Ultra!

This episode is packed with real-world takeaways on mastering the fundamentals: the...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with Richard Abernathy, an avid ultra runner and the visionary Race Director behind Dirty Wolf Racing!

Richard takes us on his incredible journey, which started with a simple competition and evolved into a deep passion for the trails. We dive into the wild world of race directing, covering unique events like the challenging Beast of the East and the brutal Hellhole 100K, where the flat terrain somehow makes it even tougher!

But this episode is all about the power of story. Richard shares why...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with Lauren, a remarkable ultra runner whose story is a masterclass in resilience and grit.

Lauren shares her incredible journey from battling a broken ankle to achieving the ultimate dream: qualifying for Team USA! We dive deep into her training philosophy, her harrowing experience in the final miles of a race, and the mental fortitude it takes to push through extreme fatigue and confusion.

But it's not all about the suffering. Lauren opens up about the importance of effort-based pacing, the power...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable April Bailey, a former basketball player who found her true calling on the trails and went on to become the first-place female and overall winner of the 2025 Yeti 100!

April shares her powerful and deeply personal journey, opening up about how running became a source of healing after personal loss. She takes us through her transition from the court to the trails, detailing the challenges and triumphs of her various races, and what it took to achieve her remarkable 15-hour and 42-minute finish at...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving into a world of grit, genius, and a little bit of madness with Jared Beasley, a runner and writer who knows a thing or two about chasing demons on the trails.

Jared takes us on his incredible journey from a troubled past to finding his purpose through running and writing. He pulls back the curtain on the enigma himself, Laz, the legendary race director, and shares what it's truly like to enter his world—a world Jared describes as a modern-day Willy Wonka fa...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the incredible Katti Jackson, an ultra runner whose journey is a masterclass in resilience and grit. She's coming off an epic run where she won and set the course record at The Cherokee 70K!

Katti's story is proof that you don't need years on the trails to make a name for yourself. She takes us on her wild ride from a DNF in her first 50K to winning the legendary Grindstone 100 and tackling the brutal weather of UTMB.

We dive deep into the...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable Sarah Baker, an ultra runner whose journey on the Appalachian Trail is a powerful testament to resilience, self-discovery, and the unwavering belief in oneself.

Sarah shares her raw and honest story, revealing the physical and emotional challenges she faced during her attempts to set a Fastest Known Time (FKT). We talk about the brutal realities of the trail—from battling norovirus and trench foot to the mental barriers that can feel heavier than any pack.

But this isn't a story of de...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with a true legend in the ultra running community, Jason Green from the Yeti Trail Runners!

Jason takes us on a deep dive into the heart of the sport, from his own personal journey into ultra running to the wild evolution of the Yeti 100 race. He gets real about the challenges of race directing and the immense joy of creating a welcoming and inclusive space where every runner, no matter their pace, feels like a champion.

We're talking about the crucial role...

He's back! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down once again with the one and only ultra runner, Andy Glaze. And let me tell you, he’s been busy!

Andy takes us on a wild ride through his latest adventures, from the mind-bending Cocoa Monster to the epic Arizona Monster 300. He gets real about the challenges of solo racing, the crucial art of recovery, and the logistical chaos of preparing for these massive events. We dive deep into his unforgettable experience at Leadville, tackling the brutal reality of altitude sickness and th...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable Audrey Carter, an accomplished ultra runner from the East Coast Adventures team whose story is all about finding her fire on the trails. She's coming off two incredible podium finishes at The Cherokee Ultra 70K and Fort Frenzy Ultra Festival 24 Hours!

Audrey takes us on a journey from her early days as a soccer player to discovering the world of ultra running during the pandemic. She opens up about the mental and physical hurdles she's overcome, the vital role of strength training, and...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with the incredible Crystal Wheatley, "Queen of the South," and ultrarunner whose journey is a powerful story of resilience, redemption, and the transformative power of running.

Crystal shares her path from being a competitive 5K runner in high school to facing personal challenges that led her to sobriety. She opens up about how running became her lifeline and her passion, propelling her into the world of ultra marathons.

We dive deep into her experiences in races, including her unforgettable partnership during the...

In this conversation, Addison Hendricks shares his journey as an ultra runner, detailing his early beginnings in running, the challenges he faces with nutrition and recovery, and the mental toughness required for endurance sports. He reflects on memorable race experiences, the lessons learned from his journey, and his aspirations for the future. Addison's story is one of perseverance, growth, and the impact of community support in the world of ultra running. In this engaging conversation, ultra runner Addison Hendricks shares his experiences and insights from various races, including the challenges of recovery, the lessons learned from his first race...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by an absolute force of nature, Anna Troup! Her story is a testament to the fact that it's never too late to find your calling.

Anna takes us on her incredible journey from a rowing background to becoming a dominant ultra runner who just won the Summer Spine 2025! We'll dive deep into her experiences in legendary races like the UTMB and the brutal Spine, and how she navigates the mental game of running her own race when leading alone.

But it's not all about speed...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with Dylan Ledbetter, an incredible ultra runner whose journey from military service to finding freedom on the trails will truly inspire you. Dylan shares his powerful story of how running became a form of therapy, helping him navigate personal challenges and embrace a path to sobriety. We dive deep into pivotal moments like the intense 4x4x48 challenge and his experiences pushing limits at races like the Mid-State Mile and Hail Mary. But it's not just about the miles. Dylan opens up about the vital role...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, your hosts David and Matt are pulling back the curtain on their latest adventures, serving up fresh insights and hard-won lessons from the trails!

We're diving deep into the World's Fair Ultras in Knoxville, TN – imagine running around that iconic Sun Sphere! Plus, we're reliving the highs and lows of Western States, the grind of Mid-State Mile, and the sweltering challenges of Yeti 50 where heat and humidity put our hydration strategies to the ultimate test.

This episode isn't just about race reports; it's about the unbreakable spirit of...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an incredible story that truly embodies the spirit of endurance, family, and grit! We're honored to sit down with Michael and Nicholas Leo, a dynamic father-son duo whose journey in ultra running is nothing short of inspiring.

Michael shares his path from various sports to finding his calling in running, while Nicholas, inspired by his dad, started pounding the pavement at a young age. They dive deep into their experiences at the challenging Mid-State Mile, revealing the lessons learned about training, crucial nutrition, and the mental...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, get ready for a story that will move your heart and inspire your soles! We're honored to sit down with Tyson, Clay, and Johnny, three inspirational runners who embarked on an extraordinary journey: running across Tennessee for a cause that means the world to them – raising awareness and funds for Callie, a young girl with a rare medical condition.Clay shares his powerful personal transformation, from an overweight youth to the ultra runner he is today, and how that journey intertwined with the profound motivation behind the Callie Strong Run. We di...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up and hitting the trails with Ginny Smith, a prominent race director for Bad Beard Events and an ultra runner who’s all about building community, one stride at a time!

Ginny takes us on her inspiring journey from pounding pavement to embracing the trails after moving to Chattanooga. She opens up about the wild ride of becoming a race director – from the early challenges to learning the art of delegation – all fueled by her passion for connecting people through running.

We dive deep into why co...

Alright, get ready for an episode that's as wild as a zombie apocalypse (and as inspiring as crossing a state on foot)! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're welcoming the awesome duo, Jon Cox and Becca Jones from BMFJ Events and the infamous Mid-State Mile! Becca and Jon takes us on a truly unique running journey – from initial motivation to survive a zombie apocalypse (seriously!) to finding joy in the grit of ultra running. They open up about the mental health aspects of hitting the trails, the critical role of pacing, and her absolutely incredible achievement of...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, it's a special episode with your hosts, David, Matt, and Mary, as we dive into our recent race experiences, the highs, the lows, and the grit it takes to keep showing up!

Matt's sharing all the secrets behind his incredible course record at Johnston Woods – 60.9 miles of pure determination! We'll get into his fueling strategies and what it took to push past the limits. Mary opens up about her own recent race, facing down some tough health challenges and finding strength in unexpected places, even sharing how vision therapy pl...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up and diving into the incredible journey of Kyle Kraeft, an ultra runner who knows a thing or two about pushing through when everything screams "STOP!"

Kyle takes us back to his very first steps into the ultra world, sharing the raw, real challenges he faced in those early races and the hard-earned lessons that shaped him. We'll hear about his leaps to longer distances, including his first 100K and the notorious Georgia Death Race, where he faced physical and mental hurdles that would break most people.<...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the world of grit and grace with the phenomenal Shannon Wheeler! She's not just an ultra runner; she's a force of nature who's tackled some of the toughest races out there.

Shannon takes us on her incredible journey, from finding solace in running in her mid-30s to crushing races like the Cruel Jewel 100 (which she compares to childbirth – you know it was tough!) and battling through the rugged Palisades 100. We'll hear all about the mental strength it takes to push through pain, the importance of...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're tackling a story that's a touchdown for the running community! We're hanging out with Chris Stangle, a former football player who traded his helmet for a headlamp and is now not only crushing ultra marathons but also orchestrating some seriously awesome races!

Chris takes us on his unexpected journey from the gridiron to the grueling world of ultras, sharing how he discovered his love for endurance and the challenges he faced along the way. But what really shines through is his passion for the running community. We'll talk...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're strapping on our headlamps and hitting the trails with Nick Bianchini, a true force of nature who went from battling wildfires to crushing ultra marathons! 🔥

Nick's journey is a wild ride, and he's not holding back. We're talking about how he traded the smoke and flames for sweat and dirt, using running as his escape and his freedom. He opens up about his battles with addiction and how lacing up his shoes became his lifeline.

But it hasn't been all smooth trails. Nick shares the gritty det...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're hanging out with Katie Baksa, a total rockstar who's gone from kicking soccer balls to crushing marathons (like, Olympic Trials level crushing!). But her story isn't just about speed and PRs; it's a hilarious and inspiring look at a messy, beautiful journey of a runner who's not afraid to chase big dreams (and maybe stumble a little along the way - that humbling 5K story is gold!).

Katie spills the beans on her ultra and trail running adventures, her training secrets (fueled by recovery drinks and maybe a...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving deep into the heart of the trail running community with a very special guest: Terry Chiplin, the driving force behind the US Trail Running Conference!

Terry shares his personal and inspiring journey into running, from his childhood in England to the transformative landscapes of Colorado. We'll hear about the spark that ignited his passion for the sport and how that passion led to the creation of the US Trail Running Conference.

But this isn't just about a conference; it's about the incredible community that makes...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Kristian Morgan, an ultra runner whose journey is nothing short of epic. And get this – he currently holds the second fastest time in BOTH directions on the Appalachian Trail and he's going back in 2025 for another attempt!

Kristian takes us on his incredible adventure, from tackling the legendary Appalachian Trail to his relentless pursuit of the Fastest Known Time (FKT). We'll hear about the challenges, the triumphs, and the hard-earned wisdom he's gained along the way.

But it's not just about the miles. Kristian op...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the incredibly inspiring Lindsey Sexton, a two-time No Business 100 finisher whose journey proves that strength and resilience can conquer any obstacle.

Lindsey takes us on her remarkable path, from her early days starting a cross-country team in high school to facing down breast cancer and emerging to complete ultra marathons. We'll hear about her motivations, the challenges she's overcome, and the raw emotion of crossing that finish line after her battle.

Lindsey emphasizes the vital role of community support, the power of mental strength...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're bringing you an extraordinary live update from the road! We're checking in with Kallup McCoy II, an inspiring indigenous runner who's embarking on an epic journey across America, a feat accomplished by few indigenous runners since 1928.

Kallup is sharing the raw, real-time experience of this incredible endeavor. We'll hear about the challenges he's facing, the unwavering support of his crew and community, and the profound purpose that fuels his every step: to raise awareness about health issues and substance use disorder.

This isn't just a story...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by Alec Cline, an ultra runner who just has the fastest 50 mile top performance time currently this year.

Alec's journey is a wild ride, and he's sharing all the details. We're talking about the switch from pavement pounding to trail racing, the mind-bending challenges of ultra racing, and how he learned to push through the pain when his body was screaming "STOP!"

But it's not just about the suffering (okay, maybe a little). Alec's dropping knowledge bombs on training strategies, fueling secrets, and the mental...

This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joined by the one and only Michael Wardian, an endurance athlete who's not just a runner, he's a legend. He holds multiple FKT's and American Records.

Michael takes us on his incredible journey, from his early days hitting the pavement to becoming a record-breaking ultra marathoner. We'll dive into his experiences at iconic races like the Boston Marathon, the brutal Badwater, and the historic JFK 50.

But it's not just about the races. Michael shares his thoughts on the power of community, the science of nutrition, and...

Alright, buckle up, Dirt and Vert listeners! This week, we're chatting with a badass ultra runner who just crushed the Southern States 200, taking home third overall and leaving them in the dust. That's right, we're talking about the incredible Ashlie Ithurburn!

Ashlie's journey is a wild ride, and she's taking us all the way from those "boring" old road races to the gritty, glorious world of ultra marathons. We'll hear about her first 100-miler, the epic challenge of switching to trail running, and what it really takes to survive (and thrive!) in those multi-day death marches.