Blue Collar Business Podcast

Growth without systems just builds a bigger prison. Fractional COO Dhana Kannan explains how trade business operators can scale without constant firefighting.
Transitioning to a true visionary requires stepping out of the daily chaos. Founders often spend high-value energy on low-value problems, creating a bottleneck. Dhana breaks down how to identify these traps and build processes that protect your margins.

Instead of defaulting to expensive hires, we explore the tool-contractor-employee hierarchy. Tracking targeted metrics, like a weekly work-in-progress report, provides the visibility to stop margin erosion before a project takes a loss.

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One bad injury can bankrupt a growing trades business. Mika McFadden breaks down how to protect your assets and retain A-players affordably.

We map out the exact mechanics of using alternative health plans, like ICRA, to keep top foremen from jumping ship. Mika explains how cash value life insurance acts as a secondary reserve.

This allows owners to borrow against their policies at simple interest for equipment purchases or unexpected cash flow crunches. You will learn to treat risk management as a foundational pillar for your heavy operations.

For mid-market contractors tired of...

Unchecked rework is the silent margin killer destroying construction profitability. Greg and Renee from QC University share their decades of federal construction expertise to help you stop bleeding cash.

Implementing structured quality control is your primary defense against eating the costs of poorly planned design changes and scheduling oversights. By putting an inspection and testing plan in place during the bid phase, you stop footing the bill for other trades' mistakes.

Proper daily reporting and site-specific testing matrices shield your bottom line. We break down how to properly dual-hat your field team and document every...

Building a service empire starts in the dirt, where margins are tight and physical tolls are unforgiving. This week, Sy takes on a solo episode and talks about how he was a ditch digger who traded his shovel for a balance sheet to build a profitable civil operation.

He breaks down the brutal mechanics of scaling a blue-collar business. You'll hear the exact steps for financing heavy equipment and navigating the shift from field worker to manager.

Sy covers the process of estimating jobs correctly, managing overhead, and avoiding the hidden equipment costs that ruin...

Operating blind on job costs will bankrupt your business. John from JC Property Professionals joins Sy to break down the messy transition from field operator to actual business owner.

They dissect exactly how to escape the operator hamster wheel by implementing tight operational systems and knowing your absolute numbers. Forget fair market value; if you bid to the market instead of your overhead, you leave money on the table.

They unpack the ignorance tax of those early years, dealing with heavy operating expenses, and using basic CRM software to automate administrative headaches.

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The days of subsidizing a general contractor's administrative overhead are over. Bassem Hamdy, CEO of BRIQ, brings 27 years of tech experience to explain why generic software fails the trades and how applied intelligence fixes it.

Operators are drowning in ITBs while unrecorded field directives turn into margin fade before hitting the monthly forecast. Bassem details how specialized systems target these bottlenecks by scoring leads before an estimator even opens the file. We break down the mechanics of using closed language models to reclaim billable hours, process change orders, and completely eliminate double data entry from the job...

Scaling a heavy civil operation often means suffocating under debt and yellow iron. Shenar Wood from Practical Grit, outlines his exact path from directional drilling to a strategic private equity rollup.

Operators routinely bleed cash by mismanaging field production and running blind on financial data. Shenar breaks down the steps he took to prepare his underground utility company for a profitable exit. He shares the brutal cost of untangling messy accounting and why hiring a fractional CFO is non-negotiable for contractors wanting to increase margins.

For heavy civil owners drowning in personal guarantees, this conversation...

A single utility strike can bankrupt a project before lunch. JC Spalding, owner of 502 Equipment, explains why hydro excavation is rapidly replacing manual spot digging across the nation.

Leaving traditional methods behind requires serious capital, but failing to adapt exposes contractors to catastrophic liability. JC breaks down the true cost of operating vacuum trucks compared to the financial ruin of hitting an undocumented main. He unpacks the necessary shift in safety protocols and how equipping operators with the correct accessories minimizes downtime on high-value machinery.

For utility contractors weighing the transition to hydro excavation, this...

Unseen utility lines and bad data quietly drain civil construction margins. Alec Pestov, founder of vGIS, explains how 3D site scanning instantly protects your bottom line.

Many contractors run complex excavation projects on messy spreadsheets. We map out a unified operational system built specifically for the underground space. You will learn how to use standard iPads to capture open trench scans, document foreign crossings, and convert field redlines into billable quantities. When engineers challenge your pay apps, having time-stamped visual data ends the argument fast.

For utility operators fighting over change orders, this provides a...

Your biggest cash flow issues are just people problems in disguise. Mike Matalone unpacks why contractors consistently fail at hiring and retaining skilled labor.

Stop hunting for natural-born leaders. Operational growth comes from establishing non-negotiable core values and transforming average recruits into high-performers through strict accountability. We break down exact interview tactics needed to weed out uncoachable candidates. Instead of letting high turnover erode profit margins, you must define specific job KPIs before posting an ad. Aligning personal goals with company targets turns you from a babysitter into a true business owner.

For operators trapped...

The industry complains about a lack of skilled operators instead of actually training them. Cole Morse and the More Dirt Pro team break down how they launched an interactive app and hands-on dozer school to solve this gap.

We review the logistics of bringing complete beginners into the seat to safely cut slopes and hit hubs. Relying purely on machine control creates vulnerable crews, so we explain why learning to pull grade freehand beats staring at a rover when the satellites drop out. Securing corporate backing and dealing with heavy equipment overhead takes serious conviction.

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Chasing endless growth can slowly drain the life out of a business owner. Too many contractors are burning themselves out trying to feed a massive payroll instead of doing the actual work they love. Ron Bylo of Bylo Acres joins the show to share his deliberate choice to step back from managing crews and build a highly profitable solo residential excavation company.

We sit down to unpack the exact framework behind his success in the residential dirt world. We get into establishing bracketed pricing, mastering true job costing to absorb the blow of a broken mulcher tooth...

A piece of paper will never show what a man with callused hands can actually build in the field. As the older generation retires and the skilled labor gap widens, figuring out how to properly vet and hire true craftsmen is the difference between making schedule and going bankrupt. Rocco and Cheri Molfese, founders of Crown Coverings and the Collars app, join the show to share their specific expertise in changing the hiring landscape for tradesmen.

We sit down to discuss the painful lessons learned from taking a massive personal risk to build a commercial flooring enterprise...

Untracked dirt and lost load tickets are a direct leak in your profit margin. In an economy where margins are tightening and projects demand precision, you can no longer afford to guess what your equipment and crews are actually costing you day-to-day. Today, we sit down with Long Nguyen, the solo founder and developer of SpoilStack, who built a straightforward dirt-tracking platform specifically to eliminate the friction between field crews and front-office data.

We get into the exact mechanics of bringing modern tech to the dirt world without alienating your foremen. We cover tracking load counts in...

Relying on a yellow pad and a good memory is a guaranteed way to lose a six-figure contract. As the market tightens and technology evolves, failing to track your sales and production data means you are actively bleeding profit out of your bottom line. Moustafa Moursy from Push Analytics joins the show to explain how to build foolproof, foundational systems that actually work for blue-collar businesses.

We sit down to unpack the exact framework for transitioning from a chaotic, people-dependent operation to a streamlined, system-dependent machine. We get into flow-charting your current workflow, integrating client relations management...

A bad number off the desk cannot be fixed in the field, no matter how hard your crews work. Margins in the dirt and pipe game require precision, meaning contractors can no longer afford to guess on their quantities or rely on a hunch for an estimate. Ben Brunni from PayDirt Support joins the 100th episode to break down exactly how modern earthwork and utility contractors are securing their profits before a single piece of iron comes off the lowboy.

We sit down to unpack the mechanics of a truly bulletproof takeoff and why missing the fine...

Isolation is a quiet business killer in the trades. Right now, prioritizing face-to-face analog relationships is proving to be the most reliable way to secure consistent leads and build resilient, long-lasting partnerships in a highly digital world. We sit down with Queenie Be, a former ICU nurse practitioner who executed a massive career pivot to found Hive Networking, to discuss how she built the largest inclusive professional ecosystem in her region.

We get into the exact mechanics of building massive analog events that trade stuffy hotel ballrooms for active warehouses and heavy equipment yards. The conversation covers...

Relying on expensive lead generation services is draining your profits and stunting your business growth. If you are still buying shared leads while ignoring the digital footprint of your brand, you are leaving money on the table for your competitors to claim. Today, we sit down with Ryan Dandrea, a solo painting contractor with over 15 years of experience who completely replaced his paid marketing with an organic social media engine.

We get into the exact mechanics of building an autonomous solo operation that leverages tools like AI lead qualifiers to streamline scheduling. We discuss the transition from...

Striking an underground utility isn't just a costly delay; it is a life-or-death gamble for your crew. With infrastructure expanding daily and mapping systems struggling to keep up, understanding how to navigate the subsurface is more critical than ever. Today, we sit down with William "Bo" Sanders, the Education and Outreach Liaison at OKIE811, to break down the real-world stakes of damage prevention.

We get into the exact mechanics of keeping your team safe and your projects moving forward without a hitch. We discuss the importance of utilizing one-call centers, standardizing APWA color codes, and leveraging free...

Downtime and disputes over unseen work are a massive profit leak for middle-market contractors. The traditional methods of documenting underground utilities are failing, costing crews both time and leverage when engineers or owners push back on invoices. Alec Pestov, founder and CEO of vGIS Inc., joins us to share how his company is solving the documentation nightmare with practical, phone-based 3D scanning.

We get into the actual workflow of bringing technology into the ditch without overwhelming your crews. We cover 3D scanning utility locates via iPhone, utilizing digital twins for underground progress, and bridging the gap between...

Chasing production while ignoring the people doing the work is a guaranteed profit leak. Right now, contractors are struggling to find and keep reliable help, constantly pointing fingers at the labor pool instead of looking at why their teams are turning over. David McCune, Vice President of Operations at Land Development Group, joins the show to share his boots-on-the-ground expertise on building teams that actually want to stick around for the long haul.

We sit down to unpack the real mechanics of building a functional workplace, stepping past the corporate buzzwords to focus on what actually works...

Running blind on your job costs is a guaranteed way to bleed cash. With fluctuating material prices and tighter lending, operating on razor-thin margins without a financial baseline will sink a construction business faster than ever before. I sit down with Josh Luebker, President of The Construction CFO, to break down exactly how to bridge the gap between field execution and long-term financial strategy.

We get into the mechanics of building an airtight estimate that actually reflects the reality of the dirt work. We discuss the necessity of tracking labor burden, the proper way to structure a...

Most business owners in the trades break into the industry relying entirely on grit and personal credit cards to survive the early cash flow cycles. You start making more money than you've ever seen in your life, but the minute you go to the bank for a line of credit or try to win a massive commercial contract, you get hit with a sudden denial because nobody ever taught you how to build a proper corporate credit profile. Sy Kirby sits down with business credit expert Gerri Detweiler to break down exactly how entrepreneurs can proactively step out of...

The hidden cost of bad excavation data isn't just a hit to your bottom line; it is a direct threat to the lives of your crew members on site. When project owners withhold accurate utility maps to shield themselves from legal fault, field crews are left to dig blind, relying on paint lines that might not tell the whole story. We sit down with Sarah Magruder Lyle and Jerrod Henschel at the CGA Conference to look closely at why relying on basic compliance is no longer enough to protect underground workers.

We get into the specific operational...

When excavators saturate the system with massive, multi-block requests for minor digs, the entire ecosystem stalls, pushing schedules out by days and trapping crews in costly holding patterns. In this episode, we sit down with Adam Zeciri of Subterranean Consulting Group and Jim Plasynski of KorTerra, who co-chair the Common Ground Alliance technology committee, to map out the high-stakes reality of utility locate management.

We get into the technical mechanics of subsurface investigation, moving past standard electromagnetic locators to break down how ground penetrating radar handles shifting soil densities and where acoustic frequencies pick up the slack...

Downtime is a profit leak, but a line strike due to a language barrier is an outright tragedy. Right now, infrastructure projects are booming all across the country, yet a massive portion of the boots on the ground doing the actual digging are left completely in the dark regarding critical regulations. We sit down with Rosemary Langowski, a bilingual damage prevention specialist at Washington Gas, to discuss the critical disconnect between management safety mandates and what Spanish speaking crews actually understand.

We get into the hard data showing why safe digging practices cannot afford to be lost...

Utility strikes are more than just a production delay; they are a massive financial liability and a significant threat to crew safety. For years, the people actually doing the digging were left out of the policy-making rooms, resulting in a system where locators and excavators often operate at odds. We sit down at the Common Ground Alliance (CGA) conference to discuss how the "boots on the ground" are finally taking a seat at the table to overhaul damage prevention.

We get into the technical and tactical substance of what is actually happening in the trenches with John...

Unmarked utilities and accidental strikes are more than just a nuisance; they are massive profit leaks that put lives at risk every single day. In an industry where the pressure to produce often outweighs the patience to be safe, the "boots on the ground" are frequently the ones left holding the bag when things go sideways. In this episode, I sit down at the Common Ground Alliance (CGA) conference with industry veterans Josh Hinrich, Scott Brown, and Eric Metzger to bridge the gap between those who mark the lines and those who dig them.

We sit down...

Downtime is a profit leak, but a broken home is a life-altering bankruptcy that many leaders in the trades don’t see coming until the papers are served. In an industry where we pride ourselves on building the world around us, we often let our own foundations crumble under the weight of 70-hour weeks and the "provision" trap. We sit down with executive coach and author Cory Carlson to discuss how to stop the cycle of burnout and reclaim the role of leader in your own household.

We sit down to tackle the unvarnished reality of mental he...

Downtime is not a mechanic problem, it is a profit leak that can wipe out a week of work in two days. We sit down with Matt Gillett, founder of Gillett Excavating in Michigan, to tell the truth about what it takes to grow an excavation company from a $500 start into a full service heavy civil construction and underground utilities contractor. The stories are raw because the lessons are expensive, and we want you to steal the learning without paying the same tuition.

We get into the real-world tech debate around GPS machine control and total station...

If you’ve ever said, “We can’t find good people,” this conversation challenges the real problem: we’re not building a place good people want to belong. I’m joined by Jonathan Whistman, CEO of WhoHire and founding partner of The Sales Boss, to talk about how blue collar business owners can build a team competitors can’t beat or steal by focusing on identity, standards, and the full human experience at work. 

We dig into why hiring is more than filling seats, it’s a responsibility. Jonathan shares how repeated actions create evidence, and evidence creates identity...

A competitor ten times bigger rolls into town, undercuts your price, and takes your market share nearly overnight. Most owners panic, cut margins, and burn out. Ed Katz did something different: he listened to what customers kept asking for, built a system to deliver it, and turned adversity into a breakthrough that transformed commercial moving. 

We talk through Ed’s path from Wall Street to entrepreneurship, why “identifying a need” puts you most of the way to the goal line, and how one ugly Friday-night breakdown taught him the real value of processes and contingency planning. Then we get...

If your crews are working hard but the money still disappears, the leak might be communication, not effort.

We sit down with Ron Nussbaum, a Marine veteran and the founder behind BuilderComms and Builder Labs, to talk about the messy truth of construction operations and the myth that software fixes everything. Ron breaks down why the tool is only a small slice of the solution and why the real work is process, discipline, and leadership buy-in during implementation. We get practical about the three buckets most blue-collar businesses live in every day: sales and estimating, project management...

This episode was filmed live at Con Expo in Las Vegas! Join us for this special episode with Chuck Harris!

A lot of construction tech looks great in a demo and then dies on the jobsite. So we recorded this one live from ConExpo 2026 in the CHC Nav booth to talk about what actually sticks when crews are tired, the schedule is tight, and the boss wants ROI now.

Chuck Harris from Benchmark Tool and Supply breaks down what’s new with CHC Nav across GPS rovers, surveying, layout, and machine control. We get into th...

This episode was filmed live at Con Expo in Las Vegas! Join us for this special episode with Khrysanne Kerr!

A locate mark that’s a few feet off can wreck a schedule. A utility strike can change a life. That’s why we sat down with Khrysanne Kerr from the Common Ground Alliance, one of the leaders behind the nationwide 811 Call Before You Dig campaign, to talk through what’s actually happening inside the locate system and what contractors can do to make it work better.

We get into the real numbers that most people...

Want a blueprint for selling your contracting business without losing your identity or your team? We sit down with Kory Mitchell, founder of Iconic Founders Group and former CEO of a 200M environmental firm, to unpack how blue-collar owners can scale with intention, de-risk the books, and exit with clarity and control. Kory shares how he grew from a family asbestos shop to 37 locations through a mix of organic expansion and 13 acquisitions, and why the best deals hinge on people diligence, not just financials.

We get practical fast: why job costing, WIP reporting, and real-time dashboards transform...

Ready to stop letting software and insurers set your prices? We sit down with restoration veteran and industry advocate Ben Justesen to map out a practical blueprint for blue-collar profit: building your own labor rates, managing WIP with confidence, and turning real culture into a recruiting edge. Ben’s story moves from a $400k patent lawsuit and five years of survival mode to leading markets in pricing by feeding data back into estimating platforms and, more importantly, engineering his own defensible rates from labor burden, overhead, and targeted margins.

We break down how to translate takeoffs into tr...

A good pour rewards speed and precision, but building a company takes a different mix. We sit down with Kyle Harris, president of Harris Company Concrete Construction, to trace how a young finisher who loved the rush of pour days became a leader who runs on systems, coaching, and clear numbers, while navigating California’s maze of regulations without losing his edge.

Kyle walks us through the early wins and the 2008 gut punch that forced him to learn business the hard way: licensing scrutiny, cash flow shocks, and contracts that bite. The breakthrough came with a coach wh...

Some stories start with luck. Ours starts with sweat, a $20 bill, and a phone camera. Marvin went from picking shingles in small-town Wisconsin to building a trusted asphalt brand and a media engine that opened doors to stages, sponsors, and a wider mission: make blue-collar work visible, respected, and easier to win.

We dig into how simple, consistent documentation; tank fills, applications, cured results, and two-week check-backs, creates social proof that outperforms any sales script. Marvin shares the exact playbook that 4–6x’d his revenue: show the process, show the people, and keep showing up. When online crit...

Ever feel like you’re wearing every hat, working every hour, and still falling behind? We sat down with Missy Washam and Mayce DelValle of Mpactful Messages to unpack a blueprint that actually scales on the jobsite: connect with your people, empower with clarity, and prioritize what moves profit and life forward. No theory, just tools, stories, and steps you can use today.

We start with connection as the core of leadership. Not fluff, simple acts like knowing your crew’s real lives, setting expectations in plain language, and modeling calm when the schedule slips. Influence isn’t a ti...