Human Performance Outliers Podcast with Zach Bitter

Backyard Ultra interviews with Mark Dowdle, Sam Harvey, Jon & Kendra Noll are coming up! Thoughts on the pinch points to success in the BYU world. The ultramarathon media is starting to cover BYU in more detail. How my training has been heading into the final stage of peaking for Desert Solstice 100 mile. Truett Hanes takes a big step towards his marathon goal at the Chicago Marathon. Shoes I have been checking out recently. 

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Meg Eckert recently became one of only five humans to ever run 636 miles or more in six days. She is now the overall American Record holder and Women's World Record holder for the 6-Day event. Meg is also a full time math teacher, coach, and puts up incredible results in a variety of events, including finishing third this year at the Cocodona 250, and winning the Vermont 100 Mile.

Meg: meganeckert.com | IG: @_megeckert

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The Javelina 100 Mile came down to the wire this year with the men's and women's winners decided in the final minutes. Ryan Montgomery runs a 2:23 marathon during his build towards a 24 hour World Record attempt in December. Jeff Garmire joins me to discuss this and share some thoughts on the Backyard Ultra craze. 

Jeff Garmire: freeoutside.com | IG: @thefreeoutside | YT: @Freeoutside

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Bigs Backyard and the Backyard World Team Championships occurred last week, featuring the best BYU athletes in the World. This ultramarathon format is growing rapidly, not just with ultra runners, but mainstream media. Is it just a matter of time before the BYU format becomes the face of ultramarathon? Brian Peterson joined me to discuss.

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I will be taking a big swing at Desert Solstice Track Invitational on December 19th where I plan to establish a new 100 mile personal best. In this episode, I highlight why I am confident I can do it, and share some details on my approach going into my 100 mile peaking phase.

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Allison Mercer joined the show to recap two very different running stories from the past week: the Moab 240 cancellation amid flash flooding, mudslides, and serious safety concerns in a remote area, and the Chicago Marathon with its mix of stories. We dig into the growing risks and responsibilities around 200+ mile events (experience levels, communication, support crews, and protocols), contrast that with Chicago's high-profile narratives involving Emma Grace Hurley, Vinny Mauri, Clayton Young, and Galen Rupp, and touch on treadmill training accuracy, super-shoe competition, and race overcrowding.

Allison: @onewomandanceparty | Strava: strava.com/athletes/18552474

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Allison Mercer is an ultramarathon athlete who has competed at both 50km and 100km World Championships, Tunnel Hill, and Strolling Jim. She joined me to unpack why the World 100 KM deserves more attention, and what ingredients make ultramarathons grow.

Allison: @onewomandanceparty | Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/18552474

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Kim Gottwald is a German ultra runner and content creator who went from law student to backyard-ultra standout by documenting extreme projects in public, including a co-win at Go One More in Texas, and a 449 km Last Soul Ultra victory at home. He co-founded the running brand Rappid, became BPN's first German athlete, and now hosts Germany's Last Soul Ultra. He has big plans for expanding Last Soul Ultra into multiple locations, including the US.

Kim: kimgottwald.info | IG: @kim.gottwald | YT: @Kim.gottwald

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Phil Gore holds the World Best mark for the Backyard format, completing 119 "yards" for a total of 495.83miles. He recently completed a personal project, called Project 168, where he aimed to see if he would be able to last 168 yards (700 miles). He ended up tapping out at 152 yards (633.75 miles). We discussed this project, what the limiters were, how they have created a longer recovery, and what direction the Backyard Ultra World is going, and how his event raised nearly $300,000 for Telethon, a Western Australian appeal that supports sick, vulnerable, and disadvantaged kids and their families. You can contribute here: philgore...

Brian Reynolds is a Brooks-sponsored double below-knee amputee runner who, in 2026, became the first athlete in that category to finish the Leadville Trail 100 — on his fourth try, in 28 hours 55 minutes. He lost both legs at age four to meningococcemia, a rare bacterial infection with grim survival odds. For years he hid the amputation and stayed off the trails. A Grand Canyon hike cracked that open. He went from powerlifting to a 2:58 marathon, multiple classification records from 5K to the marathon, and Team USA para-athletics.

Brian: IG: @brianreynoldsrunner

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Phil Gore holds the World Best Backyard record with 119 yards (495.87 miles). In an effort to see what he could actually do, he set up a project targeting yards/hours. Meg Eckert may be the most underrated ultramarathon athlete in the game right now. She is currently on pace to break her own women's 6-day World Record, and also the outright American Record. Finally, I touch on some thoughts around the UTMB events. 

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Thomas Nobbs is a professional marathon athlete with a 2:09 PR, and endurance coach. His progression to 2:09 speaks for itself, and his public strava profile shows how he has balanced lots of low intensity running and key quality sessions. Thomas is currently training for the Chicago Marathon, where he plans to once again improve his marathon PR. 

Thomas: teamrunrun.com/coach/tom-nobbs | IG: @nobbs.not.knobs | Strava: Thomas Nobbs

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Dr. Trent Stellingwerff joined the show to discuss the topic of relative energy deficiency syndrome (REDs) in endurance athletes, and body competition management. Trent includes working with the Women's Health, Sport & Performance Institute (WHSP) in Boston Trent is the Chief Performance Officer (CPO) at the Canadian Sports Institute. Trent has developed many national and international collaborations in various applied research projects in the fields of nutrition and physiology, and been a part of 8 IOC position statements. Trent joined the show to discuss the topic of relative energy deficiency syndrome in endurance athletes, and body competition management in athletics.

Mark Dowdle arrives 15 minutes before the start of Last Soul Ultra, but still wins with nearly 400 miles. Should we have more unsupported ultra running events? Badwater 135 lack of streaming and interesting shoe policy. Jeff Garmire joins me to discuss and share his upcoming documentary.

Jeff Garmire: freeoutside.com | IG: @thefreeoutside | YT: @Freeoutside

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Matt Fox joined me to chat about his interest in the marathon after coming from a National class middle distance background, his trajectory with content creation, the Chinese running shoe market, and his power weight ratio journey.

Matt Fox: sweatelite.co | IG: @mattinglisfox

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I reached the end of my journey with the blood clot I discovered at the end of June. I learned a lot through the process, along with information about my personal risk for blood clotting. I unpack all of that and share my return to training. 

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Vic Johnson shares the practical limits of high-carb strategies, discusses how carbohydrate needs can exceed what the gut can absorb, especially under heat and high intensity. Vic shares typical successful ranges, why hotter races and faster pacing worsen digestion, and emphasizes consistent intake over large boluses that can trigger GI issues. They discuss individualizing targets for mid-pack runners, finding a personal carb "cap" in training then scaling back for race day, sex differences (body size, culture, psychology), links between GI issues and disordered eating, the role of day-to-day carb intake in building intestinal transporters, and practical choices between drink...

Kilian Korth joined the show to have a discussion around ultrarunning's growing professionalization without sophisticated regulated drug testing, the limits and trade-offs of WADA/USADA-style regimes, and why "doping" as a blanket term obscures intent and severity. We unpack gray areas such as THC thresholds, TUE complexity for common medications, transparency vs backlash, influencer incentives, and the future pressure regenerative medicine and technology (e.g., super shoes) may place on sport rules.

Kilian: IG: @runtoughmindset | Substack: https://substack.com/@runtoughmindset

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Josh Kerr shattered the mile World Record, running 3:42.66. Everett Smulders has run 3:58 in the mile, and follows the sport closely, so he joined me to discuss everything surrounding this historic day. We dive into what made this such a mainstream attention grabber, what made it stand out from similar accomplishments, and a variety of other topics. 

Everett: wesflytrained.club/apply? I IG: @coachsmulders

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There was recently some controversy at the Biotropica Backyard Ultra where both the men's and women's world bests were broken. After the event concluded, it was revealed that some violations occurred, causing all results from the event to be disqualified, including the top performances. Mark Dowdle joined me to discuss what happened, along with other related topics around rules in the sport of ultra marathon. 

Mark Dowdle: IG @mark.dowdle | YT @mark.dowdle

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Lotti Brinks is a rising star in the sport of trail ultramarathon. She has improved year over year, which recently resulted in finishing 5th at the 2026 WSER 100. She joins the show to discuss history with the sport of running, introduction to the sport of ultramarathon, becoming a professional athlete with Hoka, the growing trend of race day optimization with team training camps, and how she has shaped her mindset to stay balanced in life outside of being a professional runner.

Lotti Brinks: @lotti_brinks | https://www.strava.com/pros/25210246

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The Comrades Marathon is one of the most competitive ultramarathons on the planet. The 99th running of the historic point to point course recently saw both the men's and women's course records go down. George Kusche was the men's and overall winner with a time of 5 hours 15 minutes 56 seconds over the 85.77 km net uphill course. 

George Kusche: @kuschegeorge

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WSER 100 2026 was defined by large improvements in finishing times across both the men's and women's top finishers. What does the historically cooler temps help tell us about the next big performance boosting strategy for ultramarathon races? Nick Coury joins me to discuss the pacing variable that may still yield big improvements at races like WSER 100. 

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Some eye catching training techniques have recently been highlighted in the running world. These included what appears to be an excessive degree weighted downhill treadmill work, and heat train maxxing. I give some thoughts on both, and what they mean for the average runner.

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I was recently diagnosed with deep vein thrombosis (DVT) or a blood clot. I was traveling for a race when symptoms presented. This is a timeline of the events that led to me getting checked and confirmed. DVT is a situation where if you don't act soon, it can get very bad. Getting checked when symptoms present is very important, and I hope to highlight that with my story. 

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On paper, the Enhanced Games was a massive failure, but was success the real goal or something bigger? Hyper carb fueling strategies are all the rage right now, but is there more to this approach than gut training on race day? The Comrades Marathon produced course records on both the men's and women's side of the event. 

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Ian Sharman is a legend in the ultramarathon space, finishing top ten at WSER 100 nine times, four wins at Leadville 100 mile, and a wealth of knowledge with respect to training theory and the variables that make for successful ultramarathon results. Ian recently published a book, "Art of Ultrarunning: Tried & Tested Strategies for Long-Distance Runners." We spent some time covering what he has learned throughout his career as an athlete and coach.

Ian: sharmanultra.com | IG: @sharmanian | X: @sharmanian

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Multiday Ultramarathons are growing in popularity, but offer a high bar to be successful. Kevin Goldberg is the host of the "Distance To Empty Podcast" where they dive into the specific variables surrounding multiday ultras. We discussed what he has learned from experts along the way, as well his own participation in this style of ultramarathon.

Kevin: https://linktr.ee/distancetoemptypod | IG: @distancetoemptypod

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Brian Peterson (Wolfie's World) joined me to discuss Jim Walmsley's entry into WSER through sponsor spot, and what to make of all the discussion around policing non-professional runners in sport.

Brian: @wolffrunner | Wolfies World Podcast

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Kilian Korth finally cracked the code for a successful race at Cocodona 250 on his forth attempt. It didn't come without challenges and unpredictable hurdles to clear. Kilian is one of the best problem solvers in the sport. We discuss his approach, problem solving, and what makes Cocodona and multiday events so appealing in the modern ultramarathon era.

Kilian: IG @runtoughmindset | Substack: https://runtoughmindset.substack.com/about | Kilian Korth x Creerpers Socks

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Recently, Sage Canaday called into question Cameron Hanes participation in running events by pointing out some of the products he has openly discussed using. The topic raises questions about what the best process is for maintaining clean sport. I discuss what I believe both of their broader points include, and potential options to minimize the divide.

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Rachel Entrekin recently cemented her legacy in the growth of multiday trail ultramarathons with her outright course record and third win at the Cocodona 250. We talk about how her race played out, her life has changed since going pro earlier this year, and what her performance has taught us about the many variables to success at multiday ultramarathons. 

For a full picture of Rachel's transition into professional ultra runner, please check out my previous episode with her, Episode 477: Cocodona 250 Ultra Champ | Rachel Entrekin 

Rachel: rachelentrekin.substack.com | IG: @rachel__entrekin

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Cocodona 250 Mile had all the ingredients to go viral beyond the world of running. I dive into the variables that led to it, what we are learning around the weight of certain performance variables like running ability and durability, and why the event has a polarizing aspect to it.

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Jacob Thomson is a professional marathon runner for Under Armour. He recently raced Boston in a time of 2 hours 9 minutes 51 seconds. He co-hosts the Out and Back Podcast with Rory Linkletter. We discuss elite training, innovative shoe tech, the role of high in race carb fueling, doping influence on professional sports, and how to navigate the world of influence and sponsorship in running's modern era.

Jacob: thomsontraining.run | IG: @jtcougars8 | YT: @jacobthomson4360 

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Super shoes, extreme in race carb consumption, and doping was a big topic in the running news the past week. We saw both Sebastian Sawe and Yomif Kejelcha go under 2 hours for the first time in a sanctioned event. Much of the conversation around these performances were centered around innovations in shoe technology, carbohydrate fueling strategies, and doping suspicion. 

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Brant Stachel guides high performing athletes and individuals to reach their goals. Brant has worked with elite athletes representing Canada and the United States, including Olympians and international competitors. Brant has been working with Thomas Nobbs who has continually progressed towards a 2:09 marathon and win at the McKirdy MicroOTQ Marathon.

Brant: runfastandfree.com | IG: @brant_stachel

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Tommy Lewis hosts the podcast, That's Runnable, and is a content creator with a passion to introduce people to running. He joined the show to discuss the role influencers and athletes play in growing the sport of running, where conflicts arise, and what he believes the path forward is for these two influential groups.

Tommy: thatsrunnable.com | IG: @tommyrunpt

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Mike McKnight is an ultramarathon athlete, coach, and former Triple Crown of 200s record holder. He is a trailblazer for 200+ mile trail events, and on a mission this year to win as many as possible. He recently won and set the course record at the Arizona 300 Mile, and has his sights on Cocodona 250, Tahoe 200, Hardrock 100, Bigfoot 200, and Moab 240 this year. 

Mike: greatwesternadventures.com | IG: @mikejmcknight

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Dr. James DiNicolantonio is a cardiovascular research scientist and Doctor of Pharmacy and has worked with professional athletes across sports. We cover the topic of fueling sport, and what to make of the extremes often discussed online.

James: drjamesdinic.com | IG: @drjamesdinic | X: @drjamesdinic | YouTube: @dr.jamesdinicolantonio2215

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Mark Dowdle specializes in long multi-day and backyard ultramarathons. He shares his experience coming from a non-running background. We discuss what makes multi-day ultras and backyard ultras unique and how the variables impacting performance shift compared to shorter ultras and endurance events. 

Mark Dowdle: www.mark-dowdle.com | IG: @mark.dowdle | YT: @mark.dowdle

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