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Episode 47 - Voices for Aviation: Jenny Ann Urban & Randy Deberry on Industry Challenges and Change
In this engaging episode of Destination Aviation, we sit down with Jenny Ann Urban and Randy Deberry from the National Air Transportation Association (NATA). As passionate advocates for aviation businesses, Jenny and Randy share insider perspectives on the biggest challenges facing the industry today—from regulatory shifts and workforce shortages to sustainability and technological innovation.
Tune in as we explore how NATA is driving meaningful change, supporting aviation businesses, and ensuring the skies remain open and thriving for generations to come. Whether you’re an industry professional or an aviation enthusiast, this conversation offers a compelling look behi...
Episode 46 - Altitude & Advocacy: Part 2 with Alex Gertsen
In the second half of our engaging conversation on Destination Aviation, we continue our deep dive with Alex Gertsen, Sr. Director of Airport Advocacy and Vertical Infrastructure at NBAA. Picking up where we left off, Alex shares more about his hands-on experience as a part-time charter captain, including the life-changing missions of organ transport and the operational realities of business aviation.Â
We expand the conversation into the evolving challenges and opportunities in vertical infrastructure, the role of advanced air mobility, and why protecting airport access is more critical than ever. Alex also reflects on the importance of c...
Episode 45 - Altitude & Advocacy: Part 1 with Alex Gertsen
In this first part of a two-part conversation on Destination Aviation, we sit down with Alex Gertsen, Sr. Director of Airport Advocacy and Vertical Infrastructure at the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA). From his early career to his leadership in aviation policy, Alex has built a dynamic path that blends high-level advocacy efforts on the ground with in-the-air experience and exposure to business aviation flying, and being a part time charter captain transporting people and being involved in organ transport operations.Â
We dive into his work supporting airports and vertical infrastructure - protecting access to airports and e...
Episode 44 - Skates to Gates: The Journey of Derek Martin
In this episode of Destination Aviation, we sit down with Derek Martin, Executive Director of Erie International Airport, to explore his unique path through the world of aviation. From chasing pucks on the ice to managing one of Pennsylvania’s key regional airports, Derek shares how his passion for hockey shaped his leadership style and career. Tune in for stories of teamwork, turbulence, and the smooth landings that brought him to where he is today.Â
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Episode 43 - Into Thin Air: The Hidden Danger of Hypoxia
When flying at altitude, oxygen isn’t just optional—it’s essential. In this episode of Destination Aviation, we explore the silent, often misunderstood threat of hypoxia—a condition that can render pilots incapacitated in minutes, sometimes without warning.
We’ll examine several aviation accidents where hypoxia played a role, including the tragic 1999 Learjet crash that claimed the life of professional golfer Payne Stewart. That flight, which flew on autopilot for hours before crashing in South Dakota, is one of the most chilling examples of how quickly things can go wrong when oxygen is lost in...
Episode 42 - From the Ground Up: Julie Curtis and the Rise of South Bend Air Service
In this episode of Destination Aviation, we sit down with Julie Curtis of South Bend International Airport for a candid and engaging conversation about her journey into the aviation industry. Julie shares how she found her way into airport leadership, the ins and outs of air service development at SBN, and the strategies behind attracting and maintaining airline routes in a competitive market. Along the way, we swap stories, reflect on career lessons, and share a few laughs. Whether you're in aviation or just love a good origin story, this episode will leave you inspired by the work happening...
Episode 41 – A Lifelong Love of Flight: Patrick Carreno’s Journey to the Captain’s Chair of DAL
In this episode of Destination Aviation, I sit down for a lively and insightful conversation with Patrick Carreno, the Director of the Dallas Airport System—which includes Dallas Love Field, Dallas Executive Airport, and the Dallas Vertiport. Over the course of an hour, we talk about his lifelong passion for aviation, his path to leadership, and what it takes to oversee one of the busiest and most dynamic mid-size hub airport systems in the country.
From industry trends to operational challenges, Patrick offers invaluable insights into the present and future of air travel. Along the way, we sh...
Episode 40 - Is Aviation Still Safe? A Candid Look Behind the Headlines
With recent aviation incidents making headlines, it's natural to wonder—just how safe is flying today? In this episode of Destination Aviation, we dive deep into the data and the real-world systems that keep our skies secure. From air traffic control and airport operations to general and commercial aviation, we break down the facts, explore the risks, and examine the stories that have caught public attention. Before drawing any conclusions, join me for a thoughtful look at where aviation safety stands today—you might be surprised by what you learn.Â
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Episode 39 - Headwinds: Aviation Incidents, Etiquette, and Travel Tales

In this episode of Destination Aviation, we dive into the latest in aviation news, travel etiquette, and real-world flight experiences. From the debate over bare feet on planes to the critical moments leading to the crash of Delta Flight 4819 in Toronto, we cover it all.
We’ll also discuss the near-miss between Southwest Airlines and Flexjet at Midway Airport, the mid-air collision over Arizona, and what these incidents mean for aviation safety. Plus, I’ll share some follow-up stories from my travels back from St. Lucia and other fascinating aviation tidbits.
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Episode 38 - Truly a Destination Episode: Saint Lucia Bound

Join me as I broadcast live from the stunning island of Saint Lucia! In this special episode, I’ll share highlights from my vacation, offering a glimpse of the island's beauty, must-see spots, and local experiences—from the beach to the mountains. But don’t worry, I’ll still squeeze in some of the latest buzz in the aviation world. Quick updates on major aviation stories and happenings, all while soaking in the island vibes. It’s a blend of travel, aviation, and a little fun in the sun—because, hey, I’ve got to get back to the beach soon!
Episode 37 - Bering Air Flight 445 and My Aviation Ramblings

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we dive into a variety of aviation topics, starting with the tragic Bering Air Flight 445 crash in Alaska and the latest updates on the investigation. From there, I share personal stories about my recent travels, including a memorable trip to Tucson where I had the incredible opportunity to meet a real-life Top Gun — and get an autograph book from the creator of the renowned Top Gun aviation program! We also talk about my upcoming trip to St. Lucia and how aviation continues to shape my journeys. Along the way, I ramble about everything from in...
Episode 36 - Breaking News: The Crash of XA-UCI - Learjet 55

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we take a closer look at the tragic crash of Learjet 55 XA-UCI, a medivac flight that crashed shortly after departure from Northeast Philadelphia Airport. The accident, which occurred 1/31/25, has left many questions unanswered, and while we speculate on the possible factors, we do so with caution, avoiding assumptions.
Through this discussion, we’ll explore the challenges faced by medivac flights, the complexities of small aircraft operations, and the factors that can contribute to aviation accidents. We also take a step back to look at past incidents such as Air Midwest Flight 5481, drawing le...
Episode 35 - Aviation Update: DCA 5342 Crash Update & Latest Industry News

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we bring you the latest developments on the tragic crash of American Airlines Flight 5342 at Washington D.C.’s National Airport, including new findings in the ongoing investigation.
We also provide an update on the incident at North Las Vegas Airport, which we covered in a previous episode, as more details emerge and the investigation progresses.
Plus, we dive into Frontier Airlines’ potential bid to acquire Spirit Airlines, exploring the political and regulatory dynamics at play and what this deal could mean for the future of low-cost travel. We’ll also t...
Episode 34 - Breaking News: DCA - American Airlines 5342 Crash

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we dive into the details surrounding the tragic crash of American Airlines Flight 5342. We discuss the latest developments, the impact on the aviation community, and what this means for airline safety moving forward.
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Episode 33 - Wings of Power: The Story of Air Force One

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we take to the skies with a deep dive into the history and significance of Air Force One, the iconic aircraft that transports the President of the United States. From its early beginnings to its current role in presidential travel, learn how Air Force One has evolved and become a symbol of power and security. We also explore some current aviation events, including today’s inauguration of a new president, highlighting the crucial role aviation plays in shaping political milestones. Whether you’re a history buff or an aviation enthusiast, this episode offers an insi...
Episode 32 - Aviation Under Scrutiny: The Crashes of Azerbaijan Airlines & Jeju Air
Destination-Aviation is back with another deep dive into the latest happenings in the world of aviation. In this episode, we take a hard look at the recent tragedies involving Azerbaijan Airlines and South Korean Jeju Air, exploring the causes, investigations, and what these incidents mean for the industry moving forward. But don't worry, it's not all serious business — we sprinkle in a little bit of my dumb humor along the way, because who says aviation news can't be informative and fun? Tune in for the latest stories in aviation, a couple of laughs, and everything you need to...
Episode 31 - Kickers & Whirlwinds: Sam, NBAA, Fast Food, and Love in the Sky

In this exciting episode of Destination-Aviation, we introduce Sam, the CEO of the Arc of Illinois, who brings a unique perspective to the world of aviation. Sam flies alongside our host, offering fresh insights on the connection between aviation and her work in human services. Sam shares her experience at the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA) conference, discussing the latest trends in business aviation and how they intersect with her leadership role. We also dive into some fun topics, from fast food favorites to unexpected stories of love in the sky. Sam's passion for human services adds depth to...
Episode 30 - Turbulence Ahead: Tales and Rants from the Sky

Welcome aboard Destination-Aviation, where we’re taking off into the skies for a thrilling ride in Episode 30. In this episode, we’re tackling everything from wild aviation stories to the politics that shape the way we fly. I’ll be sharing some unforgettable tales from the aviation world, and diving into the turbulence that surrounds both the industry and the politics that influence it.
The episode takes a somber yet fascinating turn as I recount the tragic crash of Reba McEntire’s plane, which claimed the lives of all aboard—except for one survivor. While the story is heartbr...
Episode 29 - Wings of Change: Aviation News & Politics in Flight

In this episode of Destination-Aviation, we’re diving into headlines shaping the aviation world, from groundbreaking technological advancements to key regulatory shifts. We’ll unpack some of the political forces at play, from new government policies to industry lobbying efforts, and how they’re influencing everything from air travel safety to sustainability initiatives. Whether you're a frequent flyer, an industry professional, or simply curious about what’s happening behind the scenes, this episode brings you up to speed on what’s taking off and what’s grounding aviation today.
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Episode 28 - The Descent into Darkness: Germanwings Flight 9525 and the Fatal Suicide Plot
In this gripping episode of Destination-Aviation, we delve into one of aviation’s darkest moments. Germanwings Flight 9525, a seemingly routine journey, became the scene of a harrowing tragedy that shocked the world. Join us as we explore the intricate details and chilling motivations behind the crash, revealing how a single crew member's devastating actions led to the loss of 150 lives. We piece together the events that turned a regular flight into an unforgettable disaster. Tune in for a thorough examination of this complex and somber story, shedding light on its profound impact on aviation safety and regulations.
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Episode 27 - Whistleblowers in the Sky: The Tragic Fate of Boeing's Truth Tellers
Welcome aboard Destination-Aviation, where we unravel the gripping tales of Boeing whistleblowers and the enigmatic shadows that loom over their stories. Delve into the complexities of fate and secrecy in the aviation industry as we navigate through the lives of those who dared to speak truth to power. Join us on a journey where each episode unveils layers of intrigue, exploring how these individuals confronted daunting challenges that transcended the skies.
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Episode 26 - Echoes of the Abyss: The Frozen Legacy
In this captivating episode of Destination-Aviation we plunge into the depths of Lake Champlain to unravel the chilling mystery of a long-lost private jet. Fifty-three years after its disappearance on a snowy Vermont night, experts believe they've finally uncovered the wreckage, sparking renewed interest in the tragic fate of the five souls aboard.
Join us as we journey into the icy embrace of the lake, where the echoes of history reverberate through the frozen waters. Led by underwater searcher Garry Kozak and his determined team, our exploration unveils startling revelations and poignant discoveries.
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Episode 25 - Unveiling History's Depths: Amelia Earhart's Lost Legacy Resurfaces
Embark on an intriguing journey with Destination-Aviation as we delve into the depths of history, unveiling the long-lost legacy of aviation pioneer Amelia Earhart. In this gripping episode, former US Air Force officer Tony Romeo shares his riveting quest, spending $11 million to search for Earhart's elusive Lockheed 10-E Electra plane that disappeared over the Pacific Ocean in 1937.
Join us as we explore the high-tech expedition conducted with a $9 million unmanned submersible "Hugin" drone, capturing sonar images that may finally solve the mystery surrounding Earhart's disappearance. Learn about the challenges, the excitement, and the potential groundbreaking discovery that...
Episode 24 - Cleared for Takeoff: The Rise and Fall of the Antonov An-225
Join us on Destination-Aviation for an unforgettable journey through the skies as we delve into the intriguing saga of the Antonov An-225. In this riveting episode, titled 'Cleared for Takeoff: The Rise and Fall of the Antonov An-225,' we navigate the soaring heights and heart-wrenching lows of the world's largest cargo aircraft. Discover the awe-inspiring history behind the An-225's conception, its monumental cargo missions, and the groundbreaking feats that etched its name in aviation folklore. Yet, as we ascend to the pinnacle of its glory, brace yourselves for an unexpected twist that left the aviation world in...
Episode 23 - Clear Skies, Dark Shadows: The 737 MAX Chronicle
Welcome aboard to "Destination-Aviation," where we explore the skies and delve into the fascinating world of aviation. In this gripping episode titled "Clear Skies, Dark Shadows: The 737 MAX Chronicle," we embark on a journey through the tumultuous development, tragic crashes, and the recent shocking incident involving a door falling off the Boeing 737 MAX. Join us as we unravel the complexities surrounding this aircraft, examining the technological advancements, regulatory challenges, and the human stories behind these unprecedented events. Fasten your seatbelts as we navigate through the highs and lows of the 737 MAX saga, shedding light on the lessons learned and...
Episode 22 - Skybound Realities: Navigating Asylum in Aviation
Discover the inner workings of aviation in our latest episode, 'Skybound Realities: Navigating Asylum in Aviation.' Delve into the intricate logistics of charter planes, unravel the complexities of airport operations, and gain insights into the systematic flow of asylum seekers' air travel in the US. This episode takes a neutral stance on the transportation debate, focusing instead on the mechanics of aviation. Join us on Destination-Aviation for a unique exploration of the aviation world, where we soar beyond stories to understand the fascinating details that keep the skies moving.
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Episode 21 - Stormbound Skies: The Unseen Struggle of TACA Flight 110
Welcome to "Destination-Aviation," where every flight is a journey into the unexpected. In this episode, we unravel the untold story of TACA Flight 110—an ordinary voyage that morphed into an extraordinary tale of survival. Join us as we navigate the stormy skies, exploring the resilience of human and machine against the forces of nature. Discover the secrets hidden in the cockpit, the split-second decisions, and the unexpected heroes who turned an impending tragedy into a triumph. Fasten your curiosity and embark on a riveting flight through the unknown, where the destination is more than just a place—it's an unfo...
Episode 20 - Good Year Gone Bad: The Blimp Crash at the White Sox Game of 1919
Inflate your curiosity as we take a nostalgic flight back to the summer of 1919, where baseball, hot dogs, and the grandeur of blimps filled the American skies. Join us in this special episode of Destination-Aviation as we explore a tale of unexpected twists, a scheduled absence, and the dramatic descent of an iconic blimp over a White Sox game. In 'Good Year Gone Bad,' we unravel the mystery behind a historic aviation event that took the crowd by surprise and left its mark on the pages of both baseball and aviation history. Prepare to soar as we navigate...
Episode 19 - Miami Skies Noir: The Silent Descent of Chalk's Ocean Airways Flight 101
Step into the time capsule of 2005 Miami, where Chalk's Ocean Airways Flight 101 set its course against the backdrop of neon-lit skies. Join us as we navigate through the routine departure, exploring the vintage allure of Chalk's and the whispers that painted an ominous tale. Beyond the surface of this seemingly straightforward flight lies a tapestry woven with intrigue, maintenance mysteries, and a descent into the unknown. Uncover the untold stories, the lives touched, and the enigmatic questions that linger in the shadows. Welcome to Destination-Aviation—where secrets unravel against the timeless rhythm of the city's heartbeat.
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Episode 18 - Skybound Serendipity: The Gimli Glider Chronicles
Welcome aboard Destination-Aviation, where we explore the skies and unravel the extraordinary tales that defy gravity. In our latest episode, join us on a riveting journey as we delve into the mysterious and miraculous story of the Gimli Glider, a Boeing 767 that found itself gliding gracefully over the Canadian landscape. Buckle up as we navigate through the unexpected twists and turns of this aviation anomaly, where quick thinking and a dash of luck collide at 41,000 feet. Fasten your seatbelts and get ready for a turbulence of emotions in this high-flying episode of Destination-Aviation!
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Episode 17 - Lost Innocence: The Terrifying Flight of Aeroflight 593
Embark on a compelling journey with Destination-Aviation as we delve into the enigmatic story of Aeroflight 593. In this episode, we explore a flight where the innocence of a group of kids intertwines with a series of events that lead to an unprecedented tragedy. Join us as we uncover the unsettling details behind this aviation mystery, taking you on a thought-provoking exploration of the skies. Prepare for an immersive experience that goes beyond the ordinary, revealing a narrative that challenges our understanding of air travel. Tune in to Destination-Aviation for an eye-opening episode that will leave you questioning the unforeseen...
Episode 16 - High Altitude Horizons: Revealing the Saga of Yeti Airline Flight 691 in Nepal
Embark on a gripping journey through the clouds in 'High Altitude Horizons,' where we unravel the untold story of Yeti Airline Flight 691 in the challenging skies of Nepal. Join us as we navigate through the breathtaking terrain that conceals both wonder and peril, exploring the mysteries of aviation in a region known for its extremes. Get ready for a riveting tale that transcends the ordinary, capturing the essence of high-altitude adventures. This episode promises a turbulent ride filled with suspense, as we delve into the heart-stopping moments of this unforgettable flight. Fasten your seatbelts, secure your belongings, and...
Episode 15 - Vanishing Skies: Unraveling Flight 19's Bermuda Triangle Mystery
Embark on a thrilling odyssey with "Destination-Aviation," where the mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle take flight. Join us as we unravel the enigma of Flight 19, a squadron of U.S. Navy Avenger torpedo-bombers that vanished in 1945. In this immersive journey through time and conspiracy, "Vanishing Skies" invites you to explore the deep unknown, all within the captivating realm of aviation. Stow your tray table, aviation enthusiasts, as we navigate the haunting echoes of the Bermuda Triangle and strive to uncover the truth behind the vanishing skies.
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Episode 14 - Echoes of Flight 514: Captivated by the Unseen
Embark on a chilling journey with Destination-Aviation as we unravel the mysteries surrounding TWA Flight 514. In this gripping episode, "Echoes of Flight 514: Captivated by the Unseen," we delve into the haunted skies above Mount Weather. Join us as we explore strange phenomena, ghostly apparitions, and encounters that defy explanation. Brace yourself for a tale that transcends the boundaries of the living and the spectral—a journey into the heart of aviation history where the echoes of tragedy linger among the trees. Fasten your seatbelts, listeners, for this haunting exploration awaits those brave enough to confront the mysteries that soar be...
Episode 13 - Janet: From Skies to Secrets – Unraveling the Nevada Enigma
Step into the shadows of secrecy as we unravel the mystique surrounding Janet—the enigmatic airline shuttle that quietly slips into the heart of the Nevada desert. Join us on Destination-Aviation for a spine-tingling journey into the secrets of Area 51. In our October series of spooky aviation tales, Episode 13, we explore the blurred lines between reality and the unknown. From rumors of covert commuters to fictional escapades where ancient forces awaken, our latest installment delves into the eerie mysteries that haunt the Nevada skies. Buckle up for a riveting exploration where the truth remains elusive, and the Nevada skies co...
Episode 12 - Aviation Phantasmagoria: Ghostly Chronicles from the Clouds
Settle into your cockpit seat as we soar through the unknown skies, guided by spine-chilling tales from our listeners. From phantom radio messages to eerie encounters at airports, our aviation journey takes a spectral twist. Fasten your seatbelts for a flight into the twilight zone, where the ordinary transforms into the extraordinary. Welcome aboard "Aviation Phantasmagoria," where the skies echo with stories that defy explanation.
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Episode 11 - Spectral Skies: Unveiling the Ghostly Secrets of Flight 401
Embark on a spine-tingling journey with Destination-Aviation as we delve into the mysterious skies that shroud the haunting tale of Eastern Airlines Flight 401. This episode kicks off our month-long Halloween-themed series, unraveling the chilling events surrounding the first fatal crash of a wide-body aircraft. From a burnt-out landing gear indicator to spectral apparitions, we navigate the eerie aftermath of Flight 401, exploring the paranormal whispers that linger in the aviation world. Buckle up for a month of spooky aviation tales, but first, fasten your seatbelts for this bone-chilling descent into the unknown.
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Episode 10 - Unearthed Military Aviation Secrets: Skies of Mystery
In this episode of Destination-Aviation we will be discussing:Â
1. B-52 Airshow Accident (1994):
Imagine a sunny day at an airshow, where spectators gathered to witness one of the world's largest aircraft performing breathtaking aerobatic maneuvers. The excitement in the air was palpable, but as the colossal B-52 bomber took to the skies, the event would take a shocking and unexpected turn.
2. Flying Tiger Line Flight 739:
In a story that continues to baffle experts, we delve into the mysterious disappearance of Flying Tiger Line Flight 739. Picture an ordinary day, passengers boarding a...
Episode 9 - Turbulence and Tragedy: Unraveling Flight 427, United 585, and Eastwind 517
Prepare for a journey through the skies like no other. In this episode of "Destination Aviation," we take you back to the 1990s, where three seemingly routine flights, US Airways Flight 427, United Flight 585, and Eastwind Flight 517, each embarked on journeys that would become the focal points of aviation mysteries, leaving experts and investigators grappling with questions that defy easy answers.
Step aboard US Airways Flight 427, a Chicago-to-Pittsburgh voyage that took an unexpected and heart-stopping turn. You'll experience the anticipation of passengers as they look forward to reuniting with loved ones or embarking on new adventures, only to...
Episode 8 - The Days the Music Cried: Tragedies in the Skies
In this heart-wrenching episode "The Days the Music Cried," we delve into the chilling stories of musicians whose lives met with tragedy in the world of aviation. From rock 'n' roll pioneers to blues legends, and even a bizarre run-in with the law, these tales will leave you in awe of the lives these artists led and the unforeseen circumstances that brought them down from the skies.
We begin by revisiting the fateful day in 1959 when Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and The Big Bopper boarded a plane, unknowingly sealing their destiny. "The Day the Music Died" is...