Deep Thoughts About Stupid Sh*t: A Pop-Culture Comedy Podcast
80s and 90s movies and early 2000s tv may be called stupid shit by some, but you know it matters. So do we. We're Tracie and Emily, sister podcasters who love well-crafted fiction and one another. In this comedy podcast, we look at the classic movies of our Gen X childhood and adolescence, analyzing film tropes to uncover the cultural commentary on romance, money, religion, mental health, and more. From Twilight to Ghostbusters, Harry Potter to the Muppets, comedy to drama to horror, we use feminism, our super smart brains, and each other to uncover the lessons lurking behind the...
Candyman: Deep Thoughts About Storytelling, Urban Legends, and Bees, BEES, BEEEEES!
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I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom. Without these things, I am nothing.
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily shares her film analysis of the 1992 classic Candyman. Although director Bernard Rose is a white, British man (as is Clive Barker, who authored the original short story that inspired the classic movie), his movie offers unflinching cultural commentary on racism, systemic poverty, and policing in America. The storytelling seamlessly weaves together urban legend, real...
9 to 5 with Marian Berman: Deep Thoughts About Misogynistic Bosses, Feminist Comedy, and the Importance of Package Labeling on Rat Poison
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Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen, pour myself a cup of ambition…
Tracie and Emily welcome a special guest on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit: Marian Berman, a.k.a. Mom, to talk about the 1980 film 9 to 5, starring Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, and Dolly Parton (of blessed memory). For Marian, this delightful comedy showed her young daughters multiple ways of being a feminist woman claiming her own power–which is why 9 to 5 was on regular rotation during Trac...
Looney Tunes: Deep Thoughts About Comedy, Animation, and Breaking the Fourth Wall
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My, I’ll bet you monsters lead innnnteresting lives.
In this week’s episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie revisits some of her favorite classic hand-drawn animation from Looney Tunes, including the cartoon shorts “Duck Amuck,” “What’s Opera, Doc,” “Hair-Raising Hare,” “Transylvania 6-500,” and “One Froggy Evening.”Â
While the technical skill behind everything from the animation to the musical score to the comedy still holds up 80 years after Chuck Jones started creating these beloved toons, some of the cultural commentary...
Lost with Seth Nesin: Deep Thoughts About Smoke Monsters, Unsatisfying Endings, and the Ethics of Storytelling
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Four, Eight, Fifteen, Sixteen, Twenty-Three, Forty-Two
Today on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie and Emily welcome Seth Nesin to talk about the ethics of storytelling in the TV show Lost–and why you may be entitled to pop culture compensation for its completely unsatisfactory ending.Â
Seth explains why revisiting this early 2000s sci-fi / mystery / drama hybrid television series doesn’t inspire nostalgia, because saying it was a “good show with a bad ending” feels no different than calling Sawyer’s...
Look Who’s Talking: Deep Thoughts About Talking Babies, Compulsory Heteronormativity, and Why Pregnant Women Are Public Property
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“Why don't you try squeezing something the size of a watermelon out of an opening the size of a lemon and see how hot YOU look?”
On this week’s episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily revisits the only 1980s romcom that starts with talking sperm, Look Who’s Talking. This 1989 film, written and directed by Amy Heckerling, reflects many of the frustrating realities women face during pregnancy and early motherhood, including the ways pregnant women are treated like public p...
UHF with Justin Kramm: Deep Thoughts About Authenticity, High Production Value, and Comedy for Short Attention Spans
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“Hello, this is Sy Greenblum, president of Spatula City. I like the spatulas so much, I bought the company.”
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie and Emily welcome Justin Kramm, founder of Shitshow Creative, to talk about the cult classic comedy UHF. This 1989 film, written and starring Weird Al Yankovic, was a box-office failure, but a major pop culture success. Justin shares with the Guy sisters how the off-the-wall comedy encouraged him to embrace his weirdness and take crea...
Monsters, Inc: Deep Thoughts About Post-9/11 Mental Health, Furry Animation, and Tidy Storytelling
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Now put that thing back where it came from or so help me…
Tracie revisits the classic Pixar animation Monsters, Inc in today’s episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit. This family film, which was released just after 9/11, offers the deeply reassuring message that laughter is much stronger than fear, and Tracie argues that our country’s collective mental health needed that pop culture lesson in late 2001.Â
But in addition to the lovely psychology, this classic movie also gave us...
Sex and the City: Deep Thoughts About Feminism, Female Friendship, and Funky Spunk
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“I love you, but I love me more.”
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily shares her complicated love of the television show Sex and the City. When the HBO original comedy first aired in 1998, it was a breath of fresh feminism in pop culture. The show featured a quartet of fabulous single women in New York who had created a found family through their deep and abiding friendship with each other.Â
Although Sarah Jessica Parker’s Carrie...
My Big Fat Greek Wedding: Deep Thoughts About Culture, Comedy, and How Women Use Their Agency When the Man Is Head of the Household
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Don't let your past dictate who you are, but let it be part of who you will become.
In this episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie revisits the surprise hit of 2002: My Big Fat Greek Wedding. This comedy broke many of the tropes that can make romcoms hard to watch, from the Hollywood gorgeous leading lady who is clumsy to show she's just a normal woman to the heroine enjoying a glow-up in response to her new romance. Writer...
Star Wars IV: A New Hope: Deep Thoughts About Storm Troopers, Strong Women, and Unfinished Storytelling
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“Somebody has to save our skins. Into the garbage chute, flyboy!”
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily tackles the foundational pop culture text of every Gen X childhood: the 1977 film Star Wars IV: A New Hope. By following the storytelling rubric offered by Joseph Campbell's monomyth (a.k.a., The Hero's Journey), George Lucas created a film that changed the industry. (If only he knew when to leave well enough alone.)
Emily reminds Tracie of h...
The Breakfast Club: Deep Thoughts About Toxic Romance, Taking Teens Seriously, and John Hughes’ Insistence on Crotch Shots (Reprise 23)
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Don’t you…forget about me…Don’t Don’t Don’t Don’t!
In this reprise of episode 23, Tracie takes another look at the 1985 John Hughes film The Breakfast Club. This classic Gen X teen movie passes the Bechdel test and explicitly names the prude-or-slut trap of female sexuality. It also treats Claire and Allison like prizes for the boys in the film and assures the audience that we’re not so different from each other–by featuring a cast that is entirely w...
Jurassic Park: Deep Thoughts About Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, Bodily Autonomy, and When the Movie is Better (Reprise Ep 44)
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Hold on to your butts.
On this week’s episode of Deep Thoughts, Emily shares her analysis of the 1993 film Jurassic Park, a pop culture phenomenon that offers a surprising level of feminism.
Emily describes the social thrill of being the target audience for a summer blockbuster (she was 14 when it came out) and her discomfort with how Michael Crichton's original book portrayed the only two female characters as an annoying child and a cardboard cutout with breasts. She an...
Disney’s Beauty & The Beast: Deep Thoughts About Classism, Stockholm Syndrome, and Yoga-Pants Feminism (Reprise Ep 6)
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Tale as old as time? It’s old, alright. True as it can be? Hmm, about that...
Beauty and the Beast is an old and not-so-necessary model for romantic love.Â
Hiding in the remarkable Howard Ashman score to this 1991 film is a not-like-other-girls feminism and a reified classism that isolates poor Belle and gives her no choice but to fall for her captor. The sisters grapple with the conditioning from this movie (and so many other sources) that invites us...
Michael Jackson’s Thriller: Deep Thoughts about Undead Backup Singers, a Dead Pop Star and the “Death of the Author” (Reprise Ep 29)
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It smells like the funk of 40,000 years in here!
In today’s episode, Tracie shares her deep thoughts about the iconic and groundbreaking 1983 music video for Michael Jackson’s Thriller. From the way the mini film subverts expectations to the meaning behind the horror tropes it relies on to how to contextualize Jackson’s immense talent with the troubled and abusive life he led, the Guy girls explore what it means that a novelty song featuring a zombie flash mob and Vincen...
Cheers: Deep Thoughts About Womanizing Men, Ambitious Women, and Pop Culture's Most Famous Bar
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Sometimes you wanna go
Where everybody knows your name
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie revisits the must-see-TV comedy that was always on at the Guy Sisters' house: Cheers. This powerhouse of 80s and 90s pop culture, created by the Charles brothers and the late James Burrows, is genuinely funny: the pilot episode is used by TV writers to teach efficient storytelling to establish a new sitcom. And while the ensemble cast offers great physical and...
Grease: Deep Thoughts About Summer Nights, Performing Gender, and the Romance of Leather Pants and Letterman Sweaters
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Grease is the time, is the place, is the motion
Grease is the way we are feeling
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily revisits one of the classic movies of her Gen X childhood: Grease. This musical comedy was set in high school, but all of the lead actors were in their 20s and 30s, which may help explain why much of the lessons about romance, performing adulthood, and gender expression sailed over her head as...
Short Circuit: Deep Thoughts About Robots, Romance, and "Acceptable" Racism in 80s Movies
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I am standing here beside myself.
For this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie returns to one of the beloved movies from her and Emily's shared Gen X childhood: Short Circuit. The sisters remembered the charming robot Number 5 who gained sentience, the romance between Newton (Steve Guttenberg) and Stephanie (Ally Sheedy), and the funny malapropisms from Ben, the Indian character played by Fisher Stevens--a white actor in brown face. Even though brown face in pop culture was never "...
You’ve Got Mail: Deep Thoughts About Tom Hanks’ Charm, New York City’s Coziness, and the Merits of a Two-Hour RomCom / Commercial for AOL
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“…all this nothing has meant more to me than so many somethings.”
This week, Emily revisited everyone and their aunt’s favorite late-90s advertisement, er, romcom, You’ve Got Mail. The film was a feature-length commercial for America Online starring two of the biggest names in romcom, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. With the biting interactions that lead to romance between Kathleen Kelly (Ryan) and Joe Fox (Hanks), this Nora Ephron-written and -directed film showed us something so true about what life...
The Full Monty: Deep Thoughts About Masculinity, Fatherhood, and Using Comedy to Make a Political Point
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No-one said anything to me about the full monty!
For this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie returns to the 1997 British comedy The Full Monty. The film is a meditation on masculinity from multiple angles, including economic, sexual, psychological, physical, parental, and societal, as well as a treatise on the political aftermath of Thatcherism that left an entire generation of British men without jobs. But instead of a snooze-fest of dry cultural commentary on these issues, writer Simon...
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe: Deep Thoughts About the Pop Culture Endurance of the Fantasy Barbarian Soldier from SPACE!
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By the Power of Grayskull!
On Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit this week, Emily returns to her first pop culture crush: He-Man, aka, Adam, prince of Eternia. As a very small child, she loved the cartoon He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, and she was somewhat disheartened to learn that this beloved staple of her Gen X childhood was created specifically to sell He-Man toys. The animation, storytelling, and even the cultural commentary (via little public service announcements at the...
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial: Deep Thoughts About Impeccable Storytelling, the Power of Connection, and Reese's Pieces
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"E.T. phone home!"
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie revisits one of the classic movies of her Gen X childhood: E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial.
Director Steven Spielberg is at the top of his storytelling game with this sci fi film that introduces E.T., a gentle alien botanist who is accidentally stranded on Earth and taken in by 10-year-old Elliott, the middle child of divorced parents. Not only does Spielberg use every visual...
The Sixth Sense: Deep Thoughts About Ghosts, Plot Twists, and Taking the Wrong Lesson from Pop Culture
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"I see dead people..."
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily returns to M. Night Shyamalan's 1999 masterpiece The Sixth Sense. The film was a pop culture phenomenon when it debuted, and all everyone could talk about was the last ten minutes of the plot, when Bruce Willis's Malcolm Crowe (and the audience) realizes that his situation is much different from what he had believed. And to give Shyamalan his due, this plot twist uses masterful storytelling, playing by the...
Underworld: Deep Thoughts About Feminism, Leather-clad Women, and the Edges of Helpfulness in Analogies of Race
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Whether you like it or not, you're in the middle of a war that has been raging for the better part of a thousand years.
Tracie returned to the 2003 film Underworld to find a delightful – but maybe not very good – vampire and werewolves version of the Matrix. Starring Kate Beckinsale as Selene in skin-tight leather, Underworld is a visually beautiful, blue-tinged movie that marries some of the ideals of feminism with the same sexist tropes that feminism has been shining a ligh...
Highlander: Deep Thoughts About Bonkers Casting, Over-the-Top Cinematography, and Hiding Queer Subtext in Your Dad's Favorite Pop Culture
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I am Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod. I was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel. And I am immortal.
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily revisits one of the most unhinged pieces of Gen X pop culture: the 1986 cult classic film Highlander. Starring French-American actor Christopher Lambert (who didn't speak English prior to being cast) and noted Scot Sean Connery (who was playing an Egyptian character with a...
An American Tail: Deep Thoughts About Animated Mice, American Immigration in Pop Culture, and the Power of Storytelling
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We must have a wawwy. You know, a large gathering of mice for a reason.
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie returns to one of the classic movies of the animation storytelling boom of the 1980s: An American Tail. Animated by Don Bluth, the film follows young Fievel Mousekewitz, a Russian mouse immigrating to America to escape the pogroms (perpetrated by Cossack cats and humans in this world) who is separated from the rest of his family. But...
Night Court: Deep Thoughts About Likable Sleazeballs, Comedy with an Optimistic Heart, and Kooky 1980s Criminals in New York City
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The Big Apple needs a worm like Fielding!
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily revisits a favorite television comedy from her Gen X childhood: Night Court. Not only did the Guy sisters watch this workplace comedy in syndication in the afternoons starting in elementary school (despite the fact that much of the humor was very much not meant for children), but it was also part of the Must See TV lineup on Thursday nights that Tracie and Emily...
Mister Rogers' Neighborhood: Deep Thoughts About Making TV With Intention, Religious Compersion, and Nostalgia for America's 20th Century Saint
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It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood
A beautiful day for a neighbor.|
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
The Guy Girls' neighborhood is full of nostalgia this week as the sisters return to the gentle, sunny television show that helped raise millions of American children: Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. Tracie shares how Fred Rogers' plan to go seminary was changed when he was horrified to see people throwing pies at each other on his parents' brand...
The Devil Wears Prada with Tanesha Myles: Deep Thoughts About Intimidating Women, Niceness in the Workplace, and Who Gets Coffee for Whom
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Florals? For spring? Groundbreaking.
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie and Emily welcome Tanesha Myles to discuss the 2006 film The Devil Wears Prada. Like Anne Hathaway's Andy, Tanesha worked for a stylish, demanding, and overwhelming boss, who she describes as a "Black Miranda Priestly," referring to the character played by Meryl Streep. Both women bosses saw themselves in their employees and pushed them to their limits. But as Tanesha shares with the Guy sisters this week...
Material Girl by Madonna: Deep Thoughts About Pink Cocktail Dresses, Authenticity, and Why Financially Independent Women Are Terrifying
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Experience has made me rich / And now they're after me
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily and Tracie discuss Madonna's 1985 music video Material Girl in front of a live studio audience. As a six-year-old child, Emily did not recognize how Madonna's video was intentionally in conversation with Marilyn Monroe's performance of Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend from 30 years prior. Both women are singing about the importance of financial security, although Monroe's cultural commentary is more...
Amélie: Deep Thoughts about French vs. American Culture, Helping vs. Meddling, and Delightful Romance vs. Problematic Programming
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It's better to help people than garden gnomes.
When Tracie rewatched cult classic Amélie, the 25-year-old film delivered visual metaphors, magical realism, and romance that delighted as much as they did a quarter century ago. There were also moments that did not age as well as nostalgia would have suggested, and others offered cultural commentary that wasn't quite fleshed out.
The assumptions underlying the central romance between Amélie and Nino seemed to suggest that each of us ha...
The Muppets Take Manhattan: Deep Thoughts About the Meaning of Art, Assumptions About Women in the 80s, and Business Frogs in Marketing
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Hey, I tell you what is. Big city, hmm? Live, work, huh? But not city only. Only peoples. Peoples is peoples. No is buildings. Is tomatoes, huh? Is peoples, is dancing, is music, is potatoes. So, peoples is peoples. Okay?
Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit returns this week with Emily's take on The Muppets Take Manhattan. Although this 1984 film, directed by Frank Oz, still offers plenty of comedy, music, and whimsy, its treatment of women is a little less charming than...
A League of Their Own: Deep Thoughts About Bittersweet Feminism, the Threat of Girl Athletes, and What's Wrong With Dottie and Kit's Rivalry
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There's no crying in baseball!
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Sh*t, Tracie returns to the 1992 Penny Marshall comedy A League of Their Own. Both Guy sisters loved the unabashed feminism and women-centered storytelling of this film when it debuted, and much of movie holds up to their Gen X nostalgia. Marshall lets the audience see how being part of a team creates a sense of belonging and self-worth, how women must excel as an athlete and a lady...
Pirates of the Caribbean: Deep Thoughts About Rum, Amusement Park Rides, and Jack Sparrow Rewriting Our Pop Culture Understanding of Pirates
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I think we've all arrived at a very special place. Spiritually, ecumenically, grammatically.
Before the 2003 blockbuster film Pirates of the Caribbean was the pop culture juggernaut that spawned more sequels than most pirates can count on one hand, it was the first movie Emily went to see with her spouse in their early courtship. This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily brings her film analysis to what should be nothing more than a ridiculous piece of pop culture:
<...Enemy Mine: Deep Thoughts About Subverting Sci Fi Tropes, Prescient Gender Discussions in 80s Pop Culture, and Brilliant Practical Effects
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Earthman, your Mickey Mouse is one big stupid dope!
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie delves into a forgotten sci fi gem from her Gen X childhood: Wolfgang Petersen's 1985 film Enemy Mine. A commercial flop when it debuted, Enemy Mine never quite reached cult classic status, in part because it is a sci fi film that's remarkably light on space battles and much more interested in theology, interpersonal relationships, dignity, and parenting.
This film is also...
What Dreams May Come: Deep Thoughts About the Cosmology of a Painted Afterlife, Misogynistic Romance Tropes, and 90s Era Casual Racism
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Thought is real. Physical is the illusion. Ironic, huh ?
The thoughts are deeper (and potentially more upsetting, so mind the CWs) than usual on this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, where Emily shares her film analysis of the 1998 cult classic What Dreams May Come. Based on the novel by Richard Matheson (who had some truly fucked up views of women, romance, and gender dynamics), director Vincent Ward and leads Robin Williams, Cuba Gooding, Jr., and Annabella Sciorra make...
The Nanny with Zina Kumok: Deep Thoughts About Yiddish, Subverting Jewish Stereotypes in Pop Culture, and Elevated Mob Wife Fashion
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"But I've got style, I've got flair. How did I become the nanny?"
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, the Guy sisters welcome Emily's colleague Zina Kumok to share her analysis of the 1990s-era sitcom The Nanny, starring Fran Drescher. All three women appreciated the pop culture representation of a beautiful and funny working class Jewish woman on this TV show, since Drescher's portrayal of the titular nanny subverted many stereotypes about Jews, even as it leaned...
The Road to Wellville: Deep Thoughts About Scatalogical Comedy, Health Crazes, and What Films You Should Never Watch With Your Dad
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With friends like these, who needs enemas?
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie revisits the star-studded yet mostly forgotten 1994 comedy The Road to Wellville. Set at the turn of the 20th century, this film offers cultural commentary on the bonkers health crazes that gave us breakfast cereal as health food, opium as an all-purpose panacea, and the idea that an erection was a flagpole on the grave. And yet, the psychology of John Harvey Kellogg, as played by...
Say Anything: Deep Thoughts About Romance, Masculinity, and Gen X Nostalgia for Boom Boxes
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I'm incarcerated, Lloyd!!
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily shares her analysis of one of the classic movies that happened to miss the Guy girls the first time around: Say Anything. Cameron Crowe's 1989 romance/comedy created some iconic moments in our collective Gen X childhood--notably the scene of John Cusack's Lloyd Dobler holding the boom box playing Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes" over his head.Â
Crowe's storytelling also turned a curious eye to toxic masculinity by s...
Daria: Deep Thoughts About 90s Feminism, "Misery Chick" Animation, and Who Gets the Privilege of Being Cynical
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I don't have low self-esteem. I have low esteem for everyone else.
On this week's episode of Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Tracie returns to an icon of 90s era feminism, the animated MTV television show Daria. Just like the eponymous Daria Morgendorffer, the people around Tracie thought she was a "misery chick" who wore her feminism, sarcasm, and impatience with the idiocy of the rest of the world on her sleeve (although Emily objects to that characterization of her beloved...
Roxanne: Deep Thoughts About Big Noses, Smart Women, and the Delicious Comedy of 20 Perfectly Worded Insults
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Earn more sessions by sleeving!
This week on Deep Thoughts About Stupid Shit, Emily enjoys analyzing film tropes in the 1987 Steve Martin comedy Roxanne, based on the Edmond Rostand play Cyrano de Bergerac. As a romance loving child, Emily adored the updated storytelling of the remarkable man with a big nose who falls in love with a beautiful woman and helps his handsome but shy lieutenant woo her in his stead.
While much of the comedy from the original...