Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast
Listen to the podcast for those who make and drink great beer. Every week we talk to professional brewers and industry experts about practical brewing advice, in-depth coverage of brewing trends that matter to you, and tips for getting the most out of your homebrew.
Off Script and Milieu Take Parallel But Contrasting Paths to Popular Hazy IPAs
Denver's Off Script has built a rabid fanbase of hazy IPA drinkers who line up for can releases and special draft events like it's 2015 again, and founder Ryan Taylor has done it by focusing tightly on plush and saturated hazy IPAs. But he brews the beer themselves at Aurora, Colorado's Milieu Fermentation, where cofounder Rob Bessett also makes some high-scoring hazy IPAs of his own. Together in this episode, the pair discuss the ways the IPAs they brew are similar, as well as different, despite following a common path toward a similar end goal.
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Spoiler Alert—Preventing Microbial Activity in Low- and No-Alcohol Beer, in Partnership with Scott Labs
In this special episode produced in partnership with Scott Labs, we focus on beer spoilers and how to protect your beer from them. Today’s rapid growth in low- and no-alcohol craft beer and beverages presents quite a challenge for brewers because alcohol itself is one of the best ways to prevent microorganisms from turning the beautiful beverage you crafted into something less delicious or less healthy.
Through the course of this conversation, we talk about what some of those common spoilers are, how they function, and what you can do as a brewer and beverage maker to...
Kyle Gregorash of Young Blood Brews Indulgent Fruit Beers Balanced Through Thoughtfully Shaped Acidity
Kyle Gregorash of Madison, Wisconsin’s Young Blood didn’t initially set out to build a brewery around fruit beer, but over the past six years he’s worked tirelessly to perfect it and solve that intractable brewing problem—how can you make something that’s sweet and crowd-pleasing but that finishes with a snap and encourages the next sip? And how do you do that when brewers’ favorite tool—hop bitterness—is off the table? Through years of experimentation and practice, Gregorash has dialed in fruit beers and those beers have fueled the brewery’s growth to the point where they n...
Better Beer That’s Better for the Environment with a Better Bottom Line Using Better Hops and Hop Products, in Partnership with Hopsteiner
For a brewery with a well-loved flagship brand, changing the recipe is fraught with opportunities for failure. Mess up a beloved beer, and customers will let you know that you blew it, but make it better (or give it more longevity in the package), and you’ll likely hear nothing at all. Flagstaff, Arizona’s Mother Road Brewing rose to the occasion recently, redesigning their Tower Station IPA with modern hop products and no pellets on the hot side to reduce brewhouse waste (and placate the local waste-management authority) and to boost efficiency and yield while reducing shipping costs. In t...
Pacific Northwest Approaches to West Coast IPA with Breakside, Grand Fir, and Varietal
"Pacific Northwest Coast IPA" might not be a thing, but it's a jumping off point for this week's panel discussion on IPA featuring three noted and award-winning brewers—Whitney Burnside of Grand Fir (Portland, Oregon), Chris Baum of Varietal (Sunnyside, Washington), and Ben Edmunds of Breakside (Portland and Milwaukie, Oregon)—recorded live at our Brewer's Retreat in Yakima, Washington.
Through the conversation, the three discuss:
differentiating American and West Coast IPA building beers in dialogue with consumers driving signature notes with Centennial cryo, Comet, Cashmere, Audacia, and more lowering hop astringency without sacrificing bitterness using contrasting lots...Perspectives on Fresh Hop Brewing With Bale Breaker, Single Hill, and Russian River
This week’s episode is another panel discussion recorded live at our Brewers Retreat in the hop country of Yakima, Washington, and features three brewers with decided experience brewing fresh hop beers—Kevin Smith of Bale Breaker, Zach Turner of Single Hill, and Vinnie Cilurzo of Russian River. Through this ranging conversation, the three discuss celebrating the current harvest through the raw flavor of wet hops, how fresh hop brewing started and grew in the U.S., anchoring fresh hop recipes in ways that allow for late changes in varietals, planning for certain hops to arrive at specific times, desi...
The Current State of Hazy IPA with Monkish, Brujos, and North Park
Episode 500! It feels surreal to achieve this latest milestone, but in this episode, recorded live at our Brewer's Retreat at Bale Breaker in Yakima, Washington, we talk hazy IPA with three luminaries in the category: Henry Nguyen of Monkish, Sam Zermeño of Brujos, and Kelsey McNair of North Park. Along the way, we discuss everything you'd expect us to discuss: dry hopping at warm temperatures, maintaining haze richness and diversity, understanding oil content and what that means for hazy IPA, achieving the perfect color, haze-positive hops, and so much more. At the end, Vinnie and Natalie share an u...
Spyglass Searches for Unique Modes of Balance in Hazy IPA and Mexican-Style Lager
Nashua, New Hampshire’s Spyglass may not have a unique origin story—engineer friends with a knack for homebrewing started the brewery to focus on the styles they were tired of driving and trading for—but after honing their processes and recipes for the past eight years, and growing into a 20 bbl brewhouse and large-capacity taproom, they’ve grown more comfortable tackling technical brewing problems on both ends of the spectrum. Whether it’s thicker and more saturated hazy DIPA, or lean and light Mexican-style lager, their smart use of malt with some surprisingly large percentages of specialty malt helps them...
Andrew Sabatine of Around The Horn Builds Classic Through Lines to Anchor Modern Lagers and West Coast IPA
Andrew Sabatine of Around the Horn (Groveland, CA) may have learned much of his trade at breweries on the hazier and more fruit-driven side of the brewing equation, but serving a small mountain town with a huge tourist population means making all the beers that people might want to enjoy. Lagers play an ever-growing role in that product mix, but Sabatine doesn’t fully throw out the rulebook when crafting hop-driven lager, preferring to add Noble hops through hot side additions while pushing more pungent aromatic hops in the dry hop, even in more modern hop-driven styles like West Co...
Todd Malloy and Robin Reed of Glenwood Canyon Match Lager Discipline with Brewpub Ingenuity for Medal-Winning Results
Over the past 30 years, the Glenwood Canyon Brewpub has earned an impressive 18 Great American Beer Festival and eight World Beer Cup medals. Mostly recently, there have been back-to-back GABF golds in festbier and a 2024 silver in helles, plus a score of 99 for that same helles from our blind panel at Craft Beer & Brewing—so, they’re showing no sign of letting up.
Brewing lager on a 10-barrel pub system with no mash rakes and a host of other challenges is a physical endeavor that requires intention and precision. But they’ve made thoughtful process and ingredient choices to ove...
Tonya Cornett and Ian Larkin of UPP Liquids Continue Their Tradition of Challenging Each Other and Winning Together
While UPP Liquids may be their latest home, Tonya Cornett and Ian Larkin have been brewing together, then apart, then together again, across three different breweries over the past decade and a half. Over that time, they’ve won countless medals in competitions large and small—including Cornett’s prestigious Russell Schehrer Award for Innovation in Craft Brewing—and they continue that tradition of winning while pushing and challenging each other at UPP in Bend, Oregon.
When they ran the entire German-Style Sour Ale category for 10 Barrel at the 2024 World Beer Cup, it was with drastically different takes—th...
Fermenting Expressive Hoppy Beers with Dry Yeast, in Partnership with White Labs
Many of the historic brewing yeasts we have today are products of their time and place. The ingredients brewers used with them, the tanks they fermented in, and the styles they made have all played a role in how that yeast grew and hybridized itself over hundreds or thousands of generations. Today, however, brewers typically brew into tanks far different than those of a hundred years ago. The hops they use generally have levels of oil and acids far more concentrated than those of yesteryear. And the flavor and aroma contributions that brewers seek from yeast are more demanding...
Patrick Raasch of Sunriver Builds a Throughline of Refinement into Boldly Flavored Beers
With 19 Great American Beer Festival and World Beer Cup medals, an Alpha King win, and nine beers scored 95-plus by Craft Beer & Brewing—including two in our upcoming Fall issue—Sunriver has become a medal-winning powerhouse of a production brewery and brewpub. But while their hop-forward offerings get much of the attention—and a fair amount of time in this podcast episode—they’re equally adept at brewing beers with left-field culinary ingredients. The throughline? Palates they’re constantly training and challenging, and a sense for quality of flavor, refinement, and integration.
In this episode, head brewer Patrick Raas...
Podcast 493: Fresher Than Fresh! Jake Watt of Trap Door Utilizes Hot- and Cold-Side Techniques in Award-Winning Wet-Hopped IPAs
In both 2024 and 2025, Jake Watt, head brewer at Trap Door in Washougal, Washington, took home gold medals in the GABF fresh hop category for his beer, Fresher Than Fresh. Interestingly, the recipes for each of those beers was quite different—and the recipe for the 2026 edition that he’ll submit this year will see more changes as well. Fresh-hopped beers are a moving target, ephemeral in nature, and making the best possible beers today means using all the things—unkilned cones harvested that morning, Cryo Fresh pellets, flowable hop products, and even a touch of Riwaka here and there.
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Building Better Gateways into Brewing, Produced in Partnership with Pinter
The vast majority of brewers we talk to for this podcast—and for the magazine—start out as homebrewers. And anyone who’s listened to more than a few episodes knows how common it is to hear about how an influential brewer’s journey started with a simple extract-based brewing kit. Making it easy for people to brew and enjoy beer at home is an important part of the craft-beer story—that’s where the story begins for so many—and that’s what this special episode produced in partnership with Pinter is about.
Those old-school kits serve a purpose...
Brewing Scientists Tom Shellhammer and Cécile Chenot Are Changing How We Think About Older Hops
Over the past two decades, the amount of hops sitting in cold-storage warehouses has more than doubled. While the volume of those stocks is inching back down from its peak in 2022—and while it’s important that the industry has a buffer against climate challenges and bad harvests—a fundamental question remains: Just how useful are those hops two, three, or four years after harvest?
Through a series of research projects and resulting papers, professor Tom Shellhammer and postdoctoral researcher Cécile Chenot of Oregon State University have been working to understand how age impacts hops, and how fac...
Mike Stein and Pete Jones of Lost Lagers Look Back at American Brewing Over the Past 250 Years
Mike Stein and Pete Jones are brewing buffs and historians based in the Washington, D.C., area, and the intersection of those two interests has proven to be fertile ground over the past decade. Through their consultancy Lost Lagers and Extinct Ales, they’ve done the research and helped surface recipes and process information about brewing in the founding years of the United States—for example, this recipe for an 18th century pale ale, from an English cookbook found among Martha Washington’s belongings.
In this episode, the two share a glimpse into what brewing was like in tho...
The Post’s Nick Tedeschi Brews Flavorful Low-ABV Beers for Great Times with Great Food
For Nick Tedeschi, a great beer evokes memories, and the beer lineup at any of the Post’s five Colorado locations is designed to feel familiar, whether you’ve ordered one there or not. Like the food and the environment, the intention is comfort, with beers designed to tuck into the experience rather than define it. But that doesn’t mean they can’t stand out on their own, and the World Beer Cup and Great American Beer Festival medals they’ve won—for dry stout, amber lager, cream ale, and malt liquor—speak to just how impactful these beers can be w...
Wynn Whisenhunt of Wondrous Makes Better Beer by Doing Less
When Wynn Whisenhunt launched Wondrous in the compact Bay Area town of Emeryville, California—wedged between more well-known neighbors Oakland and Berkeley—he brought with him big ideas about what it would take to make great beer. After growing up around well-known homebrewers like Mike “Tasty” McDole and Jamil Zainasheff, studying brewing in the Siebel-Doemens program, and working at breweries of various scales like Lagunitas and Sante Adairius, he had both the theoretical knowledge and first-hand experience in its practical application, but the first few years of running his own brewery, writing all the recipes, and brewing all the beer tau...
Ben Allgood and Brady Jones of Geisthaus are Finding their Brewing Identity by Focusing on Lager
For brewing industry veterans Ben Allgood and Brady Jones, the chance to open their own brewery in Sacramento, California—Geisthaus—meant endless possibility, but they chose to intentionally limit themselves to lagers. Despite that self-imposed restriction, they’re finding space for a range of creative expressions within the familiar worlds of pilsner and helles—but they’re also not shying away from experimenting with hazy pale lager.
In this episode, Allgood and Jones discuss:
the choices they make in seven different pils recipes hops such as Spalt Select and Mittlefrüh and their impact on pils brewing pil...Predicting Brewhouse and Cellar Issues before They Happen, in Partnership with Brightly Software
In this special episode, we talk about efficiency and managing assets in your brewery, as well as proactive and preventive approaches that extend the lifespan of your equipment and reduce equipment downtime. There’s more data available to you than ever before, but understanding how to use that data to make smart decisions and anticipate issues before they happen can save you money and avoid costly downtime. Here we talk about some of the more common issues that breweries deal with as well as the warning signs, so that breweries can avoid problems rather than react to them.
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Mike Schallau of Is/Was Is Brewing New World Saison For Modern Drinkers
“There can be a stand-offishness of, ‘These are complex flavors, you may not be ready for this,’” says Mike Schallau of Chicago’s Is/Was. “And I’m like, ‘Why?’ You can make those things, but if that’s everything you make, that’s why you don’t get to make that much saison, I guess. I want people to drink the beers, and I want them to drink a good amount of them.”
In a post-pandemic era when craft beer is contracting, it’s counterintuitive to bet big on saison—but Schallau’s strategy is to make these beers with today’s dr...
Matt Gallagher of Half Acre and Suncatcher Believes Small Can Be Sustainable
To some, Chicago’s Suncatcher must appear to be a typical neighborhood brewery. The bar is classic Midwest, salvaged from a midcentury tavern. The patio is expansive and inviting, thanks to the plant nursery next door. And the beers come without clever names—just the style, often defined by color, spelled out in plastic letters pressed into the sign board. But when you consider that it was the cofounder of Half Acre who designed and built this neighborhood brewery, it takes on a different meaning.
The simplicity that Matt Gallagher has infused into Suncatcher extends from the envi...
Cultural Collaboration and Brewing beyond the Main Strains with Suncatcher and Goldfinger, in Partnership with Omega Yeast
One of the key features of craft beer today, that doesn’t get enough press, is just how much information brewers have at their fingertips. While companies that serve the industry test and provide information about the performance of their products to brewer customers, it’s the two-way flow of information back from brewers to those companies that supercharges the learning cycle and helps everyone make better beer. In this episode, produced in partnership with Omega Yeast, guests Matt Gallagher of Half Acre and Suncatcher, Tom Beckmann of Goldfinger, and Laura Burns and Jonathan Moxey of Omega Yeast, explore this...
Stephen Bossu of Hopewell Finds Lager Inspiration in the Occasion
Chicago’s Hopewell has, from its start, charted a different aesthetic and stylistic path than many of its contemporaries. In this episode, cofounder Stephen Bossu shares their approach to building a compelling array of lower-ABV beers designed around the times in which one might drink them. From the eight-ounce stubby can of Lil’ Buddy—it makes a perfect shift beer—to Pocha, the Korean-style lager designed for accompanying food, the beers of Hopewell are tuned to real-life consumption without pretense.
In this episode, Bossu discusses:
designing and brewing an all-malt Korean-style lager building core beer recipes without...Source Material with Firestone Walker: The Science & the Art
When you look at the top restaurants around the world, no matter what cuisine they may focus on, there’s one commonality they all share, and that’s deep relationships with those who grow and raise the very best ingredients. It’s the same in beer—you can’t be the best at what you do without the meaningful, personal, financial, and long-standing relationships that ensure the brewery has access to the very best quality ingredients. These relationships don’t materialize overnight, but for Firestone Walker, they’re the product of 30 years of work. In this series, we highlight a number of th...
Anthony Chen of AleSmith Shares the Inside Story Behind the Award-Winning Handgeplukt Kriek
For San Diego’s AleSmith, funky Belgian-style mixed-culture beers aged on whole fruit may not be impactful to the bottom line. As brewers, however, they love the process challenge of these multi-phase beers as well as the unique flavors made possible by complex fermentations and highest-quality fruit.
Late last year, our blind panel at Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine® rated their Handgeplukt Kriek a 98, and our editors we selected it as one of our Best 20 Beers in 2025. Then, at the 2026 World Beer Cup, the beer further cemented its elite status by taking home a gold medal.
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Building Better Fruit and Spice Character in Your Beer
From the very earliest days of what we now know as craft beer, flavor has been a defining factor and a guiding mantra for brewers casting themselves against the monolith of light macro lager that dominated American brewing for so many decades. If you track it back, fruits and spices have been ingredients in beer for as long as beer has been made, so this modern era of craft brewing is more rediscovery than revolution. But there’s no denying that familiar and enticing, or even exotic and intriguing, flavors have been an incredible draw in bringing people into th...
Bart Watson of the Brewers Association Unpacks the State of the Craft Beer Industry
If you’ve read any mainstream news coverage of craft beer over the past year, it’s likely you’ve seen something about the “death” of craft beer. The apocalyptic tones and pearl-clutching over the industry’s recent economic woes mostly lack context, often painting a complex and diverse industry with a single brush—yet the stories continue.
In his recent State of the Industry presentation at the Craft Brewers Conference in Philadelphia, Brewers Association president and CEO Bart Watson made an effort to acknowledge the real challenges facing the industry while also dispelling some of the more hyperboli...
Source Material with Firestone Walker: Anywhere & Everywhere
When you look at the top restaurants around the world, no matter what cuisine they may focus on, there’s one commonality they all share, and that’s deep relationships with those who grow and raise the very best ingredients. It’s the same in beer—you can’t be the best at what you do without the meaningful, personal, financial, and long-standing relationships that ensure the brewery has access to the very best quality ingredients. These relationships don’t materialize overnight, but for Firestone Walker, they’re the product of 30 years of work. In this series, we highlight a number of th...
Matt Topping of COVA Finds Fruit Beer Gold with a Focus on Fresh Flavor and Drinkability
Matt Topping of COVA Brewing in Norfolk, Virginia, has a knack for winning medals with his fruit beers—but they aren’t what you think. From the full fruit refermentation to the light herbal spicing, he’s found an equation that’s equally successful on draft in the taproom and on the final judging table at the World Beer Cup. From slightly higher pH to low mash temps for fermentable wort, and from frozen purée to Ebbegarden kveik for the primary fermentation, he’s built a systematic approach to both the gose-style base and to the fruits and spices he l...
CB&B Podcast Live from Philadelphia!
The IPA gang is back together with some special guests for this star-studded episode recorded in front of a live audience of brewers at Union Transfer in Philadelphia. Vinnie Cilurzo of Russian River, Kelsey McNair of North Park, and Evan Price of Green Cheek are joined by Ben Edmunds of Breakside and Oregon State University’s Tom Shellhammer—this year’s recipient of the Brewers Association Recognition Award—for a ranging conversation. Among the topics they cover: managing sulfur in hop-forward beer, evolving dry-hopping techniques, thiols and mercaptans, and reducing the dry-hop load for better beer—plus, they take questions...
Brian Hink of Wander Back Beerworks Breaks Down Their WBC Gold Medal-Winning Helles
The founders of South New Jersey’s Wander Back Beerworks are no strangers to the beer world, but the industry veterans had modest expectations for the young project—barely two years old—when they submitted entries to the 2026 World Beer Cup. Winning a medal in one of the top-five categories, Munich-Style Helles, with over 150 entries, would be an uphill battle. But as the awards were announced, they found themselves on stage accepting a gold sash for the core beer named after the brewery itself, and a beer that they’d envisioned from the start as an expression of their passion...
Source Material with Firestone Walker: Deep Roots and Twisting Bines
When you look at the top restaurants around the world, no matter what cuisine they may focus on, there’s one commonality they all share, and that’s deep relationships with those who grow and raise the very best ingredients. It’s the same in beer—you can’t be the best at what you do without the meaningful, personal, financial, and long-standing relationships that ensure the brewery has access to the very best quality ingredients. These relationships don’t materialize overnight, but for Firestone Walker, they’re the product of 30 years of work. In this series, we highlight a number of th...
XPA Sensei Scotty Hargrave and Medal-Winning Grasshopper Blake Masoner Go Extra Deep on Extra Pale Ale
Scotty Hargrave didn’t invent extra-pale ale—he reinvented it, giving the style the definition it had lacked before. Tinkering away on his homebrew kit in New South Wales, he developed the recipe for what would become Balter XPA—a beer that took off and popularized what has arguably become Australia’s signature beer style. It’s also a beer that also has inspired certain American brewers, including Craft Coast cofounder Blake Masoner. Craft Coast XPA medaled at the 2024 and 2025 World Beer Cups and is now a core beer at their two brewpubs/taco stands in San Diego’s North County...
Source Material with Firestone Walker: Quality is a Verb
When you look at the top restaurants around the world, no matter what cuisine they may focus on, there’s one commonality they all share, and that’s deep relationships with those who grow and raise the very best ingredients. It’s the same in beer—you can’t be the best at what you do without the meaningful, personal, financial, and long-standing relationships that ensure the brewery has access to the very best quality ingredients. These relationships don’t materialize overnight, but for Firestone Walker, they’re the product of 30 years of work. In this series, we highlight a number of th...
Ryan Allen of Soul & Spirits Summons Unusual Flavors with Traditional Methods
Ryan Allen of Soul & Spirits in Memphis loves brewing traditional lager—but when it comes to turning heads at big events like the Great American Beer Festival, he’s not afraid of putting that methodical approach to work on projects that other brewers might view as crazy.
Barbecue sauce–flavored beer? Yes. Beer with the taste and consistency of Southern gravy? Check. Barrel-aged stout that tastes like cola (with a spike of something harder)? Of course.
In this episode, Allen discusses these outliers in the beer-flavor pantheon—but also shares his approach to brewing with locally...
How Indeed Uses Data to Make Better Brewery Decisions, in Partnership With Encompass
This special episode of the podcast is brought to you in partnership with Encompass Technologies, and explores how breweries are using data to create savvier approaches to distribution and growth. It’s no secret that it’s become harder to sell beer over the past few years, with two consecutive years where brewery closures have outpaced openings. Distributors are far less bullish on craft beer than they once were. Broader economic pressure has led to more price sensitivity in certain segments of consumers, while operating costs for breweries have skyrocketed, compressing margins and making it ever more important to fore...
Chris O’Connor of Prost and the Quest for Undeniable Helles and Pils
Chris O’Connor, VP of brewing operations at Prost in Northglenn, Colorado, has built a career on being a process nerd. He spent a decade in engineering for the pharmaceutical industry before switching gears and following his passion for brewing. His analytical approach to colllecting data, testing, and questioning conventional logic is a big part of what drives quality at Prost’s award-winning lager program. The success spans three Great American Beer Festival medals in the past three years, including silver for Prost Pilsner in 2023 and two golds in 2025, for Schwarzbier and Viennal Lager.
Despite that success, the...
Adjusting the Thiol Dial with ISM, Ology, and Berkeley Yeast
This special episode of the podcast focuses on adjusting the thiol dial and is brought to you in partnership with the innovative and industry-leading team at Berkeley Yeast. They’ve been on the forefront of fermentation-related science since their inception, and whether it’s Fresh strains that keep diacetyl ultra-low, NA strains that make nonalcoholic beer that actually tastes like beer, Flavor-series strains that target specific profiles, or Tropics strains that deliver a burst of thiols, they’ve got the yeast that will help you make better beer.
This episode goes deep on the science of thiols, new re...