Chasing Three Hours
A podcast about what runners are chasing, why they keep pushing themselves, and what keeps them curious. Josh Peterson interviews those in the running space he finds interesting, looks up to, and wants to have a conversation with. Read Josh's weekly newsletter at chasingthreehours.com. Email Josh at chasingthreehours@gmail.com. Music: Ian Aeillo Cover art: Marissa Peterson joshtweeterson.substack.com
101. Scott Breeden

Josh welcomes Scott Breeden to the podcast to discuss:
* Comparing his running today to his running a decade ago (3:21)
* His early years with running and why he seemed to find joy in the sport at such a young age (6:15)
* Finding joy when leaving the road scene (14:28)
* Why did he go so hard after running ultras? (20:23)
* Getting out right before trail running seemed to change (24:46)
* What he misses most from that time (31:01)
* Competing at the Barkley Marathons (38:06)
* Running every single street in Cleveland and...
100. 2025 Boston Marathon Recap (Feat. Tim Peterson)

On the final regular episode of Chasing Three Hours, Josh’s dad Tim Peterson joined the pod to discuss the 2025 Boston Marathon, including:
* Did Josh believe he’d be at the 2025 Boston Marathon when he first put out a goal of chasing three hours? (4:31)
* Josh’s training going sideways so early on in his training block (8:42)
* How much of the mental side of training is tied to good results? (15:34)
* Getting to the starting corral and what Josh was saying to himself as the race got closer (29:49)
* The early miles of the...
99. Boston Marathon Preview

Josh welcomes Cris Gutierrez, Derek Loseke, Amy DeLong, Erin Genova, Blake Ziegler, Alex Predhome, Jodi Semonell, Kassia Ulffers, Kimberly Bailey, Peter Bromka, Seth Marek, Stephen Mohring, and his dad, Tim Peterson, back to the podcast to give a preview of the 2025 Boston Marathon, including:
* How to handle things pre-race… (2:45)
* Including fueling (9:25)
* And how to handle everything at the Athlete’s Village (12:32)
* The early miles and the downhill to start (18:56)
* Keeping an even effort early… (28:03)
* Because then you’ll hit the Newton Hills (29:01)
* Soaking the weekend in (35:3...
98. Ryan Zavala

Josh welcomes Ryan Zavala to the podcast to discuss:
* How his training has gone ahead of the 2025 Boston Marathon (2:14)
* Knowing there’s always a runner out there crazier than you (17:01)
* Wrestling in college (18:06)
* Graduating college and falling away from running, only to come back because of a neighbor (29:06)
* Embracing sobriety (37:16)
* Why 2022 was the right time for his first marathon, chasing three hours, and why he ran it where he did (43:34)
* Was breaking three hours everything he hoped it would be? (50:37)
* A DNF at hi...
97. Raymond O'Donnell

After an announcement about the future of Chasing Three Hours, Josh welcomes Raymond O’Donnell to the podcast to discuss:
* Not running a traditional spring marathon (6:11)
* Being a wrestler growing up, running, and traveling overseas (7:29)
* What a local running club meant for his running (19:38)
* Balance (26:02)
* Going from a 3:17 to a 2:55 to a 2:47 in the marathon in such a short amount of time (36:01)
* A tough finish to 2023 and start to 2024 after setting a PR in Boston (44:04)
* What he’s currently chasing (55:51)
And a whole lot...
96. Kyle Robbins

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Kyle Robbins joined Josh to discuss:
* His approach to running and how it was different from his time golfing competitively (3:49)
* What brought him to running in the first place (13:47)
* The 2021 Chicago Marathon going sideways and why it was so important for him to finish the race (27:07)
* Lessons he learned from the race (31:48)
* Why running makes him a better person (42:56)
* What he’s currently chasing (48:59)
And a whole lot more!
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95. Mark Nygaard

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Mark Nygaard joined Josh to discuss:
* His approach to training for ultras and how it has evolved over the years (3:25)
* His first trail run (14:22)
* Running towards something instead of running away from something (17:35)
* The similarities and differences between golf and running (31:33)
* Being a competitor (35:39)
* “Harnessing misery” (43:20)
* What he’s currently chasing (52:10)
And a whole lot more!
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94. Milo Greder

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Milo Greder joined Josh to discuss:
* Finishing in second place at his debut marathon in February and lessons learned ahead of his second marathon later this year (1:40)
* Why running was able to turn into a passion for him (5:01)
* Competing against Seth Hirsch in high school (9:42)
* Having success in high school only to be “one of the guys” at the start of his college running career (16:46)
* Strava (24:33)
* Concern that his next training block will feature “analysis by paralysis” (39:02)
* Qualifying for the 20...
93. Elizabeth Chalen

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Elizabeth Chalen joined Josh to discuss:
* Coming off the Coldwater Rumble in January, how’s she feeling? (3:24)
* Finding her people in running (11:47)
* How people in her life have viewed her running journey (23:03)
* An injury, surgery, and her run streak ending (27:54)
* What it was like when a runner can’t run anymore (36:38)
* Advice for those that are curious about trail running but might be intimidated (45:16)
* What she’s currently chasing (52:37)
And a whole lot more!
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92. Thomas Aicher

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Thomas Aicher joined Josh to discuss:
* Training for the Boston Marathon and why his training cycle is different than most (1:56)
* 18 states away from his goal of running all 50 states (4:05)
* Looking at running from an academic perspective (10:02)
* Asking himself what else was possible with his running (27:32)
* Does he ever wonder about how fast he could run if he wasn’t running so many marathons in a single year? (35:06)
* When the Boston Marathon got onto his radar as a goal (42:50)
* What...
91. Blake Reinke

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Blake Reinke joined Josh to discuss:
* Trying to win free Chipotle for a year and doing so by running (1:47)
* How his run streak came to be (15:28)
* Belief in himself when he started chasing after time and qualification-related goals (21:32)
* Getting drawn into the ultra scene (34:36)
* A lesson he’s learned that’s helped him get to where he’s at today (46:43)
* What he’s currently chasing (52:12)
And a whole lot more!
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90. Brian Tholl

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Brian Tholl joined Josh to discuss:
* Coming off an incredible 2024, how he’s feeling about it all (3:22)
* Running a marathon with very little actual training (14:04)
* Why running disappeared throughout his 20s and what brought him back in his early 30s (19:47)
* Having Dylan Gearinger as his coach (31:38)
* Breaking three hours for the first time (36:37)
* Qualifying for the Olympic Trials as a goal and what the training will look like as he chases after it (42:36)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:01:35)
A...
89. Matthew Fayers

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Matthew Fayers joined Josh to discuss:
* Going from athlete to coach and how it’s changed his relationship with the sport of running (2:21)
* What happened when he realized he was good at running? (11:40)
* The 2012 Olympics (16:47)
* Why come to America and why run for Oklahoma State? (25:44)
* Breaking four minutes in the mile for the first time (37:57)
* Why become a coach? (42:36)
* What he hopes running can be for him personally moving forward (55:23)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:02:05)
And...
89. Matthew Mayers

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Dylan Parlor joined Josh to discuss:
* Going from athlete to coach and how it’s changed his relationship with the sport of running (2:21)
* What happened when he realized he was good at running? (11:40)
* The 2012 Olympics (16:47)
* Why come to America and why run for Oklahoma State? (25:44)
* Breaking four minutes in the mile for the first time (37:57)
* Why become a coach? (42:36)
* What he hopes running can be for him personally moving forward (55:23)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:02:05)
And...
88. Dylan Parlor

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Dylan Parlor joined Josh to discuss:
* The vibes of early 2025 coming off a great 2024 (5:32)
* Coming back to running after college and what led to him taking it seriously (17:04)
* Getting rewarded from the hard work he put in (31:20)
* Why 2024 was the right time to hire a running coach (32:15)
* The lead-up to his first sub-90 minute half marathon (38:53)
* Soaking up as much knowledge for his first crack at the marathon (44:58)
* What’s the big picture look like? (57:48)
* What he’s...
87. Ryan Regnier

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Ryan Regnier joined Josh to discuss:
* The aging process (3:40)
* Taking the next step as a runner (11:32)
* Not getting into West Point and what it meant for his running moving forward (20:01)
* When marathons entered the picture (31:43)
* Does he ever wonder what would have happened had he started running marathons when he was younger? (35:31)
* Breaking three hours and that unlocking what was next (38:43)
* Becoming the President of the Lincoln Track Club and Race Director of the Lincoln Marathon (43:47)
* Ad...
86. Jay Birmingham

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Jay Birmingham joined Josh to discuss:
* Taking in the aging process and how it’s gone throughout his time as a runner (3:06)
* Coming to running in April of 1958 and finding individual success in a sport for the first time in his life (9:10)
* The road that led him to running his first marathon in 1966 (19:17)
* Running the Boston Marathon for the first time (33:46)
* Balancing running with life (38:11)
* Journey running (40:51)
* Running across the United States (47:07)
* What he’s currently chasin...
85. Blake Ziegler

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Blake Zielger joined Josh to discuss:
* His own approach to running (2:30)
* Running a marathon as a freshman in college (8:27)
* Hitting rock bottom with alcohol and embracing sobriety (19:47)
* Advice for those that are struggling (35:03)
* Unlocking a new level with his running (37:54)
* Why he trains how he trains (41:52)
* Finally getting to run the Boston Marathon in 2024 (47:39)
* Giving back to the running community more moving forward (52:17)
* Being an early morning runner (1:02:35)
* What he’s currently chas...
84. Graig Skartvedt

On the first Chasing Three Hours of 2025, Graig Skartvedt joined Josh to discuss:
* Reflecting on 2024 (2:44)
* His Boston Qualifying time not being enough for 2026 (8:01)
* Burnout with golf leading to running (11:58)
* Using doubt as fuel (17:51)
* Running for others (20:09)
* Getting drawn into the ultra running scene (31:17)
* An injury in 2022 that left him wondering if he’d ever run again (36:51)
* Coaching new runners and advice he gives newer runners (47:37)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:02:58)
And a whole lot more!
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83. Luke Peterson

On this episode, Luke Peterson joined Josh to discuss:
* Why he started running after so many years of avoiding it (6:02)
* Running gear being a great entry point into the sport (8:52)
* A switch flipping with his running (19:12)
* Running a half marathon with his dad, and former guest of the pod, Tim Peterson (24:32)
* Where he hopes his running journey goes next (38:33)
* Advice to new runners (49:24)
* What he’s currently chasing (50:52)
And a whole lot more!
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82. John Gathje

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, John Gathje joined Josh to discuss:
* Being inducted into the Hall of Fame at multiple stops (3:04)
* Coming from a family of runners (6:13)
* The success Division III runners have after college (25:52)
* How coaching changed his relationship with the sport (29:01)
* The art of coaching evolving in his time in the sport (33:05)
* What he’s currently chasing (43:01)
And a whole lot more!
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81. Erin Genova

On this episode, Erin Genova joined Josh to discuss:
* How her most recent marathon in Berlin is sitting with her a couple months later (3:16)
* Her upcoming schedule that will feature two marathons, including London, within a month (6:56)
* Why an appendix bursting put the Boston Marathon on her bucket list and what it was like getting to run it for the first time in 2002 (12:12)
* Setting goals, reaching goals, and taking it all in (22:42)
* Complications with pregnancy, the 2013 Boston Marathon, and being done with running (27:37)
* How her relationship with...
80. Noah Droddy

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Noah Droddy joined Josh to discuss:
* Making an agreement with himself on retirement and how that moment ultimately hit him (4:52)
* Looking back on his career now that he does so with the benefit of hindsight (7:34)
* Why he started enjoying the process of running (9:58)
* What changed after college that led to him moving to Colorado? (18:18)
* Blowing up online (30:09)
* Redefining what was possible for himself as a runner (33:41)
* How his marathon PR sits with him 4+ years later (37:51)
* What he...
79. Daniel Muller

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Daniel Muller joined Josh to discuss:
* Where he’s currently at with his running journey as his next marathon approaches (3:35)
* Why a tragedy inside his family led him to run his first half marathon (11:24)
* What changed that led to such an uptick in running? (17:28)
* Support from his family throughout this entire process (34:04)
* How the 2024 Grandma’s Marathon sits with him a handful of months later (41:00)
* When he realized something was off with the race (48:06)
* How he feels going into h...
78. Jeff Edmundson

On this episode, Jeff Edmundson joined Josh to discuss:
* Hurricane Helene canceling a race and how that’s sitting with him months later (4:14)
* Leaning his testosterone levels were low and how getting that fixed changed his activity levels (18:00)
* Why triathlons entered the picture (23:54)
* His happiness journey (42:16)
* Raising money for Fxck Cancer (50:18)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:03:54)
And a whole lot more!
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77. Amie Just

On this week’s Chasing Three Hours, Amie Just joined Josh to discuss:
* Stress, anger, and running (5:00) Trigger warning for those that have experienced sexual violence
* Is she mad at what her running journey has become? (16:09)
* Long Covid and its effect on her running (18:34)
* Writing about her running (29:54)
* How she takes in each run (45:39)
* What she’s currently chasing (54:04)
And a whole lot more!
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76. Wyatt Moss

On this episode, Wyatt Moss joined Josh to discuss:
* Why decide to run a marathon in every state inside of a single year? (7:03)
* Doubting this was possible (12:52)
* A week in the life of Wyatt (18:49)
* What drew him into running (27:25)
* What the rest of 2024 looks like for him (47:03)
* What he’s learned about himself (50:16)
* What he’s currently chasing (54:47)
And a whole lot more!
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75. Christina Elder

On this episode, Christina Elder joined Josh to discuss:
* How 2024 is sitting with her (2:07)
* How she’s done at balance over the years (5:58)
* What she found enjoying about running as she embraced it more in college (16:54)
* The differences in the culture of the road running scene and track scene (25:53)
* Competing against a younger version of yourself (37:48)
* Competing on the world stage (42:00)
* Motherhood and how it’s changed her relationship with running (46:20)
* What she’s currently chasing (56:36)
And a whole lot more!
T...
74. Phillip Duncan

On this episode, Phillip Duncan joined Josh to discuss:
* Balancing his busy schedule (2:05)
* Being such a positive person (5:15)
* Going from finishing last in every race to having a lot of success (14:16)
* Running every day since 2017 and when it became something he focused on (28:50)
* Becoming a guide runner (32:25)
* Going after an OTQ in his first official marathon (51:17)
* What he’s currently chasing (1:04:24)
And a whole lot more!
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73. Chicago Marathon Recap (Feat. Chris Whitney)

On this episode, former guest Chris Whitney joined Josh to discuss:
* Chris’ recent attempt at qualifying for the 2025 Boston Marathon (3:01)
* Preparing for a race you’ve done multiple times (7:53)
* Why the training block didn’t go as Josh wanted it to (16:02)
* The start of the race (30:12)
* Having to make an adjustment to his goal early in the race (34:46)
* Changing the nutrition plan inside the race (46:54)
* The finish (58:38)
* What’s next (1:09:09)
* What Chris is chasing (1:18:36)
And a whole lot more!
Tha...
72. Bethany and Sean Clark

On this episode, Bethany and Sean Clark joined Josh to discuss:
* Bonding over being bad at other sports (4:25)
* Running for a club team in college (11:12)
* What they learned about themselves making a two-month trip around the United States in 2014 (17:36)
* Balancing running with the busy schedules and trying to find time for each other (32:42)
* Running the 2019 Chicago Marathon together when Bethany broke three for the first time (41:17)
* What they’re currently chasing (58:03)
And a whole lot more!
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71. Aaron Doucett

On this episode, Aaron Doucett joined Josh to discuss:
* How he got into rowing as an entry point into endurance sport (7:44)
* His relationship with running throughout this time period (17:27)
* The importance of learning from others (21:05)
* Enjoying the first marathon vs. looking forward to what was next (27:22)
* Chasing three hours, qualifying for Boston, and missing the cutoff (35:04)
* What did he learn about himself at the 2024 Boston Marathon? (48:56)
* His future with running (56:45)
* What he’s chasing (1:01:41)
And a whole lot more!
Th...
70. Sam Aldridge

On this episode, Sam Aldridge joined Josh to discuss:
* Becoming an early morning runner (2:19)
* His approach to running and why he tries to make it as fun as possible in a unique way (7:24)
* When he started enjoying running for the process of running rather than just for results (13:39)
* The end of 2023 and running becoming unhealthy for him (25:47)
* Coming back to running after thinking he was done with it (38:43)
* Embracing sobriety (50:56)
* What he’s currently chasing (59:56)
And a whole lot more!
Thanks to...
69. Mason Frank

On this episode, Mason Frank joined Josh to discuss:
* Recovering from an injury that’s impacted his training in 2024 (1:52)
* The type of competitor he was growing up (10:13)
* Running for “the love of the game” in college (13:59)
* When does qualifying for the Olympic Trials enter the picture? (22:32)
* How has each race sat with him? (26:54)
* Coming off a tough Trials in 2020, how did the pandemic affect his running? (36:58)
* Lessons learned (42:49)
* Long term goals with running (49:31)
* What he’s currently chasing (56:01)
And a whole...
68. Nicholas Thompson

On this episode, CEO of The Atlantic Nicholas Thompson joined Josh to discuss:
* Having a good day at the 2024 Boston Marathon (2:40)
* Running, his father, and how he came to the sport (4:54)
* Did he chase three hours because it was his father’s goal or his own goal? (13:21)
* Was the feeling of breaking the three-hour barrier what he hoped it would be? (18:17)
* Balancing running, career, and family (23:57)
* Why? (34:33)
* Going after longer distances (39:26)
* What he’s currently chasing (51:04)
And a whole lot more!
67. Rory Bosio

On this episode, Rory Bosio joined Josh to discuss:
* Ten years ago, is this where she imagined her running journey would take her? (2:30)
* What got her hooked? (9:13)
* Her thoughts on how the ultra scene has evolved in recent years (16:17)
* Running Western States for the first time (22:06)
* Did that race unlock what came next? (24:29)
* The mental side of running (30:17)
* Becoming a professional runner (34:26)
* Did she know she was at the end of her professional road when she lined up to race in 2019? (40:12)
...
66. Dan van den Berg

On this episode, Dan Van Den Berg joined Josh to discuss:
* How has his race at the Eugene Marathon sat with him over the last few months? (3:40)
* The loss of his mother, being sick, and taking a step back from running (10:08)
* Growing up in The Netherlands, moving to Canada as a boy, and his relationship with athletics (12:55)
* Ending up in an ambulance on his way to the hospital after his first half marathon (22:07)
* Bouncing back at his first marathon and that race unlocking things for the future (28:49)
...
65. Dion Thompson-Davoli

On this episode, Dion Thompson-Davoli joined Josh to discuss:
* Going viral after running every street in Washington D.C. (5:27)
* The final push to hit every street during the last month ahead of a move to the midwest (11:30)
* What did he learn about running in cities and city planning? (14:55)
* Was this adventure more stressful than fun? (21:41)
* Where is his relationship with running at now vs. before he ran every street in DC? (31:27)
* Why he hasn’t ran a marathon yet (39:25)
* What’s next (44:54)
* What he’s...
64. Liz Alderson

On this episode, Liz Alderson joined Josh to discuss:
* Her current relationship with running (2:19)
* The feeling of acceptance with her college team (8:40)
* How she was able to make big gains with her running in the mid-2010s (19:36)
* Not reaching big goals she had for herself in that time period and how she views her breakthrough marathon now (26:45)
* Health issues taking her away from running (30:51)
* How did it affect her mentally? (33:54)
* Why she decided to get into coaching (38:51)
* What is she hoping running can...
63. Adam Hughes

On this episode, Adam Hughes, host of the Pre Race Podcast, joined Josh to discuss:
* Being in a new spot in his relationship with running (3:20)
* Using his podcast to work through what was happening with him and running (6:11)
* The trail scene entering the picture (15:34)
* When he decided to focus on the trails, had he made peace with his goals in road races? (20:55)
* Was he searching for something with his running? (24:51)
* Why the trail scene is different (37:51)
* Running as a friend (53:58)
* Changing how he...