Undisclosed Agents Firefighter Podcast

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Welcome to the Undisclosed Agents Podcast where we talk to industry professionals, and tell the truth (sometimes the unpopular truth) about the greatest job in the world. 

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Undisclosed Agents Podcast #54 Brian Brush - From the Heart
#54
Today at 4:00 AM

For the first time ever, we have a repeat guest, and there probably isn’t a better person to hold that title than Brian Brush.

Brian is the Training Chief for Midwest City Fire Department, a longtime Fire Engineering author, an FDIC instructor, a 2023 FDIC keynote speaker, and a member of the FDIC advisory board.

In this episode, we talk about the first quarter civilian rescue numbers for 2026, including the Firefighter Rescue Survey reporting about 11.5 victims a day being given a chance at life through firefighter action.

We also ge...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #53 Paul Shoemaker - Next Level
#53
07/27/2026

Today we’re joined by Paul Shoemaker.

Paul brings nearly two decades of fire service experience and an incredible depth of operational and instructional knowledge. He currently serves as a Lieutenant in Colorado and has spent more than 13 years specializing in truck company operations.

While the truck is his passion, Paul’s instructional background extends well beyond that. He teaches advanced hose deployment, fireground tactics, forcible entry, search, ventilation, and modern vehicle extrication. He’s also become a nationally recognized voice on electric vehicle emergencies and lithium-ion battery incidents.

Beyond the fireground, Paul has co...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #52 Stephen Tyler - Refined by Fire
#52
07/03/2026

Stephen Tyler is an engine captain with Eagle Fire in Idaho, where he has served since 2007, beginning as a volunteer firefighter before transitioning to career service in 2013. Over the years, he has worked every seat on the rig including backseat firefighter, driver engineer, training captain, and now company officer on Engine 44 B.

Stephen is passionate about engine company operations and still loves pulling lines, pulling locks, and pulling barbells. A respected instructor across the country, he has taught HOT classes at FDIC International as well as numerous local and regional conferences with Brothers in Battle and VES...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #51 Bob Ryser - Leading by Example
#51
04/20/2026

Bob Ryser began his fire service career in 2002 and has served full time with two combination departments. He is currently the Fire Chief of the Storey County Fire Department in Nevada, where he leads from the front and sets the standard by doing the work alongside his people.

Chief Ryser is a leader who still puts his turnouts on, still trains, and still participates in the same evolutions he expects of his firefighters, allowing him to hold high standards with real credibility. He previously served as a Shift Battalion Chief responsible for training and has been an...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #50 Noah Katz - No Good Dudes
#50
02/02/2026

Noah Katz Captain on Engine 15 in the City of Phoenix where he began his career in 2013. Noah is also the founder and owner of Priority Fire Training LLC. 

Noah is extremely passionate about training and the fire service. And because of that passion he has traveled the country learning and educating himself. 

In 2011 Noah graduated the Georgia Smoke Diver Program, class 59 as Smoke Diver 1100 and Arizona Smoke Diver number 1. 

In addition to teaching classes with Priority Fire Training, Noah is the lead instructor for the Dagum Promise Search class and has been an ins...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #49 Steve Robertson - Engine Boss
#49
01/09/2026

Steve is a veteran of the fire service recently retiring after 35 1/2 years. 

Steve retired as the LT of engine 18 of the Columbus Ohio Division of Fire. 

Steve has been a classroom instructor at FDIC for the past several years teaching engine company operations. Additionally, Steve is the lead instructor of the FDIC HOT program Stretching For Success. 

Steve is also an instructor for County Fire Tactics and has taught engine company tactics nationally including the High Rise Operations Conference, Command Officers Bootcamp, and Water on the Fire conference all in Pensacola Beach, Florida.

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Undisclosed Agents Podcast #48 Anthony Rowett - Hold the Standard
#48
10/17/2025

The Undisclosed Agents Firefighter Podcast is proud to feature Captain Anthony Rowett of the Mobile (AL) Fire Rescue Department in its latest episode. Captain Rowett brings two decades of fire service experience, leadership insight, and instructional expertise to the discussion.

Anthony has served with the Mobile Fire Rescue Department for the past 17 years and began his career with the Ogdensburg (NJ) Volunteer Fire Department. Over his 20 years in the fire service, he has earned multiple degrees in Fire Science and Emergency Services Management and is a graduate of the prestigious Alabama Smoke Diver course.

Beyond...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #47 Clark Lamping - Big Box, Big Problem
#47
09/18/2025

On this episode we’re joined by Captain Clark Lamping. 

Clark is a 27-year veteran of the Clark County fire department in Las Vegas Nevada. 

Clark has spent the last 16 years serving as a captain and is currently assigned to Firehouse 38 on B-shift.

Clark holds a master’s degree in Crisis and Emergency Management from UNLV. 

Beyond the firehouse, Clark is a well-respected instructor who has taught both classroom and hands-on training throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe. 

He’s known for blending his real-world fireground experience...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #46 Jeff Bryant - Training Without Borders
#46
08/11/2025

On this episode we sit down with Jeff Bryant — third-generation firefighter, Aurora (IL) Fire Department member, and one of the most connected fire service trainers in the country.

From founding the Midwest Area Fire Academy & Illinois FireNuggets to leading FireNuggets, Inc. and serving with Brothers in Battle, Jeff’s passion is building the next generation of firefighters. He’s organized major training events nationwide, helped launch multiple state FireNuggets chapters, and continues to push firefighter education through classes, seminars, and the FireNuggets Podcast.

Join us as we talk training, mentor...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #45 Micah Rains - Protect the Protecters
#45
07/21/2025

Micah Rains has been in the fire service for 18 years and is the Captain of West End Firehouse at Greenville City Fire Department in South Carolina.

Micah is a member of the South Carolina Carolina Task Force 1 USAR team and has a masters degree in Organizational Leadership.  

Micah has taught at many conferences including the NFPA Fire Conference, Florida Fire Conference, Metro Atlanta Fire Conference, South Carolina Fire Rescue Conference,internationally in Ecuador, and many other conferences and departments. 

Along with this experience, Rains has been published by Fire Engineering Magazine and operates Pa...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #44 Marc Aloan - Operations is why we exist
#44
06/30/2025

Hey everybody, thanks for joining us as we crack open another episode of the Undisclosed Agents podcast.

Today, we had the chance to sit down with Marc Aloan a Battalion Chief with the West Columbia Fire Department in South Carolina.

Marc is the creator of The Fire Inside blog and a member of the Rust Belt Jakes cadre.

He’s an active speaker, author, and instructor with 20 years of combined volunteer and career service. He also holds a bachelor’s degree in Fire Protection Administration and a master’s in Organizational Leadership.

This...


BEST OF THE BEST COMING OUT WEST!
06/27/2025

In this episode, we talk about FireShowsWest, what it is, why it matters, and how H&H is involved this year.

From hands-on training to top-tier instructors, FireShowsWest continues to provide high-quality education and networking opportunities for firefighters across the West.

We break down what makes FireShowsWest a must-attend event, highlight this year’s impressive lineup, and share how H&H is taking part.

Spots are filling up fast, so check out the lineup and get signed up as soon as possible!

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Undisclosed Agents Podcast #43 Danny Dwyer - The Patron Saint
#43
05/27/2025

Danny has been in the fire service for 26 years. He started in a small suburban department north of Atlanta in 1999. After a few years, he knew he wanted to be a City Fireman and began applying in Atlanta. Danny got picked up by Atlanta in February 2005, and that began an amazing experience. 

He was blessed to serve in several busy companies, including Special Operations. During his time with Atlanta, Danny was promoted through the ranks: making Driver in 2009, Lieutenant in 2014, and Captain in 2019.  Then retiring from Atlanta in 2020 after the fallout from a fireground incident that took pl...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #42 Jonathan Brumley - Making a Push
#42
04/07/2025

Jonathan is a Lieutenant with the Denver Fire Department. He began his fire service career in 2009 and has served as both a career and volunteer firefighter. Jonathan has instructed in both lecture and hands-on formats at fire conferences nationally and has published works in several trade magazines. He has been married for 16 years to his beautiful wife, Molly, has three awesome daughters, and has one, handful of a German shorthaired pointer named Tucker. Jonathan is a well-known and respected instructor for engine work throughout the fire service. We were stoked to have this conversation with such a hard charger...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #41 Jay Bonnifield - Pipeman Mindset
#41
03/17/2025

Hey everybody, thanks for joining us as we crack up another episode of the undisclosed agents podcast. Today on the podcast, we got a chance to sit down with Jay Bonnifield. Jay is a Captain with the Everett Fire Department in the state of Washington, he is a proud member of station 6, assigned to E6. Jay has been blessed with the opportunity to teach engine operations and live fire training in many venues and conferences across the country. His written work has been published in multiple fire service magazines and has been featured on multiple fire service podcasts. Jay...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #40 Jesse Fournier, Dave Stepp and Mike Smith - Grit First
#40
02/17/2025

Grit First Fire Training is a training company based out of San Diego California. The trio that makes up Grit First are some of the most solid gentlemen we’ve had the pleasure to work with. Grit First offers classes both hands on and lecture on search, tactical TIC use and fire dynamics to name a few. Keep your eye out for these guys, they’ll be offering classes at a conference near you. 

Dave Stepp Grit First instructor with a passion for teaching search, hose management,  thermal imaging, firefighter survival, RIC and ventilation.  Has had the opportunity to spli...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #39 Rob Policht - Flow & Vent
#39
01/27/2025

Robert Policht started his career as a volunteer and is lieutenant of Ladder Co. 2 of the Passaic, NJ, Fire Department. During his time with Passaic he assisted with developing and establishing the department’s response to human vs. machine incidents and has a class on this subject he teaches at conferences nation wide. He is attached to Passaic’s  fire Investigation Unit as well. 

Rob teaches at the Bergen County, NJ, Fire Academy and is a member of the NJ Division of Fire Safety's Fire Threat Task Force. Policht has a master’s degree in emergency management and home...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #38 Nick Ledin - Knowledge is Power
#38
01/02/2025

Nick Ledin is a firefighter paramedic with the O Claire Fire Department in Wisconsin, currently assigned to Engine 2. Nick has been a student of the job for over 16 years. He is a major contributor to ‘Firefighter Rescue Survey’, was the former president of the Northland FOOLS, and is an affiliate member of FireNuggets. Nick is a technical committee member for NFPA 1700, he was a former technical panel member for UL FSRI’s PPA and PPV Study as well as a part of UL FSRI’s Public Education Advisory Group. On top of this Nick is a co-host of the FireNugg...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #37 Mickey Farrell - Top Floor Fireman
#37
12/12/2024

Mickey is a Lieutenant in the New York City Fire Department. He is a third-generation firefighter with 29 years of experience, the last 23 years being with the FDNY. Mickey has been instructor at the New York City Fire Academy, as well as a speaker and instructor at conferences all over the country. He is the founder and author of Top Floor Tactics, and the host of A View From the Top Floor Podcast. When Mickey speaks about the fire service he does so in a poetic manner that invokes passion for this profession. His views are unapologetic, derived from experience...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #36 Justin McWilliams - Search Culture
#36
11/24/2024

In this episode we got the chance to sit down with Justin McWilliams. Justin is a veteran on the fire service and currently serves the citizens of Clackamas Fire in Oregon as the Captain of Heavy Rescue 5. 

Anyone who has followed Justin knows he has a unique unapologetic personality. This is exactly what the fire service needs and exactly why I was so stoked to finally have this conversation. 

Justin is extremely passionate and knowledgeable about search. He has a no nonsense, practical approach to this cornerstone skill of our profession and that’s what we d...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #35 Kyle Romagus - Engine WORK
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11/04/2024

Kyle Romagus is a 21-year veteran with East Montgomery County Fire Department in Texas. 

He oversees the training division as a Battalion Chief, and in his words, is in love with engine work. 

Kyle is the owner of smoothbore cartel and founder of Engine Company Resurrection. Kyle teaches engine operations for several well-known fire service instructor groups such as:

• FD tactics

• Brothers in Battle

• Oathkeepers 

Kyle’s primary objective is to share knowledge about the value o...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #34 Logan Broberg - Rogue Fireman
#34
10/15/2024

 Today on the podcast, we got a chance to sit down with Logan Broberg. 

Logan is first and foremost, a proud husband, and a devoted father, however he is also a firefighter with ten years on the job. Currently serving as a Squad Chauffeur in Kissimmee FL. 

Logan is the Founder of Rogue Firemanship Training, dedicated to honing skills and improving performance. 

On top of that, you guessed it Logan is A proud Georgia Smoke Diver, #1158 and Georgia Flames graduate, #312. 

He is a student of the craft, who is clearly passionate about...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #33 David Rhodes - Heavy is the Head
#33
09/18/2024

Sometimes in the fire service, those of us who are engaged, find ourselves involved in anything and everything we can get our hands on . I feel like this is a learned behavior and I think we may have learned it from Chief David Rhodes. 

Chief is a 37 year veteran fire service. He retired as a battalion chief with the Atlanta fire department. Along the way has been published in more periodicals than I would be able to list in this bio, and has instructed both lecture and hands-on classes and conferences from coast to coast. 

Ch...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #32 Anthony Kastros - Calm the Chaos
#32
09/03/2024

Anthony Kastros is a 33-year veteran of the fire service he retired as a Battalion Chief with the SAC Metro Fire Department and is the founder of Trainfirefighters.com. He is the author of several Fire Engineering books and video series, including Mastering the Fire Service Assessment Center, and Mastering Fireground Command – Calm the Chaos! Co- authored with Chief Brian Brush. Chief Kastros is an FDIC and Firehouse World instructor, and was the Keynote Speaker at FDIC 2013. Chief was also the recipient of the 2019 George D. Post Instructor of the Year Award from the International Society of Fire Service In...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #31 Jarrod Sergi - No Nonsense Leader
#31
08/19/2024

On this episode, we sat down with Jarrod Sergi. At the time of this recording Jarrod was a Captain with Norfolk Fire Rescue in Norfolk VA. And was just about to get promoted to Battalion Chief. 

Jarrod is a State Instructor for both the Virginia Department of Fire Programs and the National Fire Academy focusing on MAYDAY and Strategy/Tactics. 

He is a graduate of the National Fire Academy’s Executive Fire Officer Program and has a Masters in Executive Leadership from Liberty University in Virginia. 

He has been featured in several fire servi...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #30 Clark Glass - Humble Fireman
#30
08/05/2024

On this episode of the podcast, we’re joined by Captain Clark Glass of the Atlanta fire department. Clark joined the fire service in 1997 at a small 2 station fire department department. In 2005 Clark had the itch for something more and made the switch to the Atlanta Fire Department. He began his career with Atlanta serving at companies on the Southwest side of the City until when he was assigned to Squad 4 Heavy Rescue. In 2017 he promoted to Lt. and stayed on Squad until November of 2022 when he was promoted to Captain. Clark currently serves on Truck 14. 

Humble fir...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #29 Brian Brush - Fireground Foundations
#29
07/22/2024

Brian Brush is the training chief for the Midwest City (OK) Fire Department. With more than 25 years of fire experience, his background spans several states from rural volunteer to metro-sized departments. He holds a masters degree in fire and emergency management, and an EFO as well.  He has recently published a new book co-authored with Chief Anthony Kastros titled Mastering Fireground Command that is a must read. I’ll leave a link in the show notes to fire engineering books so you can purchase your copy. I will also leave a link to the Elkhart brass tacks and hard fac...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #28 Cody Cavin & Pat Case - BA Shields
#28
07/08/2024

Hey everybody, thanks for joining us as we crack open another episode of the undisclosed agents podcast. Today on the show, we had a chance to sit down with Cody Cavin and Pat Case the owners of BA Shields. Cody started in the Private EMS world in 2009. In 2012 he dipped his toes into the fire world and began volunteering with Truckee Meadows fire protection district in Reno Nevada. Little did Cody know, 1700 miles away Pat Case was on the same path in Minnesota. Working private EMS for the Mayo Clinic and volunteering as a firefighter as well. As fate...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #27 Rob Ramirez - MAYDAY MasterClass
#27
06/17/2024

This episodes guest is Captain Rob Ramirez.  Born and raised in Miami, Florida. He has been a passionate student of the Fire Service for over 22 years. Rob is a state-certified Fire Instructor II, Fire Officer II, Safety Officer, and Live Fire Training Instructor. 

Since 2005, he has served as a Rescue Team Manager for the Department of Homeland Security F.E.M.A. U.S.A.R. Florida Task Force out of Miami, FL. He has deployed on many national and international high-profile USAR missions, including the Haiti earthquake in 2010 and major Hurricanes Katrina, Harvey, Florence, Michael, and Ia...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #26 Preston Lyons - Check Your Ego
#26
06/03/2024

Preston has served as a firefighter/paramedic at North Metro Fire in Colorado for nine years. He is a 10-year Navy veteran and got his  start in firefighting as an aircraft crash and salvage firefighter onboard the flight decks of aircraft carriers during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Then had his first exposure to structure firefighting in the 850 as a volunteer firefighter in Escambia County, FL in 2010. Preston is also the creator of Fit Fire Fortitude on Instagram but has recently rebranded and created a podcast under the name Relentless Rejects. we’ll dive into this topic and several oth...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #25 Brad Driscoll - Hard Truths
#25
05/20/2024

Today we got a chance to sit down with Brad Driscoll. Brad is a retired member of the Fresno Fire department. Serving at all ranks from firefighter to Battalion Chief. During his 22 years with Fresno Fire department Brad pretty much had his hands and everything from chairman of  the local 202 executive board, recruit Academy drill instructor, public information officer, and was also a member of the serious accident review teams on the Cortland incident and Porterville incident. I will attach a link to these two SART reports in the show notes. I suggest if you haven’t already reviewed the...


FIRE SHOWS WEST mini episode
05/05/2024

We’re starting something new. The Undisclosed Agents Podcast  wants to help firefighter owned businesses, as well as promote ways to better yourself as a firefighter so were going to start recording some “mini episodes” that do just that. Today we sat down with Trish Bonari, Executive Director of Fire Shows West. This is a conference in Reno, Nevada coming up this September. Fire Shows West is changing and has the potential to be a premier fire conference out West. This mini episode highlights some of the exciting changes happening this year and gives you all of the information you’ll...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #24 Bobby Eckert - as REAL as it gets
#24
05/03/2024

Bobby is a Second-Generation Fireman from Collingswood, NJ. Bobby got his start in the Fire Service in 1996. In 2006 he left Collingswood as a career Firefighter to pursue a career in the Camden, NJ Fire Department. Bobby spent 10 years as a private being assigned to Engine 9, Ladder 1, & Squad 7. In 2016 he was promoted to Captain and is currently assigned to Squad Company 7. He is a Pro Board Level II Instructor, and has a B.S. in Public Safety Administration. Bobby is also the owner of Eckert Fire Tactics. His Taking it to the Streets live fire class is one of the...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #23 Justin Lorenzen - BIG passion = BIG target
#23
04/12/2024

Justin started in fire service in 2005 at a rural combination department about 30 miles south of the metro and was there for 3 years before getting hired at Oklahoma City fire department. Where he is currently a Lieutenant on the south side of the city at station 7/C, the “Capitol Hill Creepers”, and drives Battalion 603. Justin also Served as a training officer for 3 years in the training division. Outside of his department Justin is currently the president for the local F.O.O.L.S chapter, Mid-America F.O.O.L.S OKC Metro, he is a part of Firefighter Rescue Surv...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #22 Eric Wheaton - V.E.S Vetted, Engaged, Savage
#22
03/25/2024

Eric Wheaton is a 17 year veteran of the fire service and currently serves as a truck lieutenant for Winter Park (FL) Fire Department. Eric is the Owner of VentEnterSearch, LLC. He also serves as an advisory board member on the UL-FSRI Size-up and search & rescue study. Eric has been an instructor at conferences all over the country. This year at FDIC he will be teaching his “Can confidence” hands on class, if you’re heading to Indy in April be sure to sign up. This was an excellent conversation with someone who has an undeniable passion for this craft, and ha...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #21 Kevin Pfluger - DAGUM Professional
#21
03/11/2024

Kevin Pfluger is a 17 year veteran of the fire service and is currently a Lieutenant at the Live Oak fire department in Texas. Kevin is the President of the Live Oak Professional Firefighters Association Local 4098.  Through the local, Kevin is the lead organizer of the Dagum Texas Fire Conference. He teaches with MV Fire Rescue as the lead instructor teaching hose line management in their  class “The First Line” for the Engine Ops Cadre and helps teach firefighter rescue and survival skills on the “No Quit RIT” Cadre. Kevin is also an instructor with the Bearers of the Oath Cadre out...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #20 Tom Hollick - Expectations AND Accountability
#20
02/20/2024

Today we had the opportunity to chat with Tom Hollick. Tom is an 18 year veteran of the fire service who currently serves as a Battalion Chief in Texas. Tom has an impressive resume thanks to his incredible passion for this profession. Some of the  highlights include being an instructor with bearers of the oath, and MV fire rescue heading up amazing classes like NO QUIT RIT. This was an excellent, no bullshit conversation with someone who isn’t afraid to tell the truth about this job and what it takes to be successful. We hope you enjoy our conversation wit...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #19 Ljay Geist - Tailboard Leader
#19
02/02/2024

LJay has been in the fire service since 2009 and currently serves as a Firefighter in West Kansas. He has lectured and instructed HOT trainings both regionally and nationally, with an emphasis on aggressive search and fire attack culture. Ljay’s tailboard Leadership class is a must for every firefighter. His passion for the craft is undeniable. Having the opportunity to talk with like minded people like who want to stomp mediocrity out of the American fire service is an absolute honor and Ljay did not disappoint. We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did. 

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Undisclosed Agents Podcast #18 Brian Olson - Skills under pressure
#18
01/14/2024

Brian is a 15 year firefighter in Idaho. Brian really needs no introduction but here’s a few of the highlights. Brian teaches with Brothers In Battle, he is a founding member of the Firefighter Rescue Survey and he is Georgia Smoke Diver #1091 (Idaho #3). This was an amazing opportunity for us to have a conversation with someone whos work in the fire service has always been inspirational for us. Brian has been an unofficial mentor to me for quite some time and to have him join us on the podcast was incredibly humbling and inspiring. We hope you enjoy this co...


Undisclosed Agents Podcast #17 Steve Nicholas - Warrior Servants
#17
12/23/2023

In this episode we had a chance to sit down with DR. Steven Nicholas. 

Steve is a licensed marriage and family therapist who has immersed himself in the phenomena of trauma and the potential growth from adverse events. 

This immersion led Steve to author the book Warrior Servants. Warrior servants are those who choose to serve in professions that require great discipline, loyalty and drive, they come when they are called and they suit up and show up when they are needed. Mental health for warrior servants has traditionally been addressed in the same way. St...