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Welcome to the Grow Places podcast where we explore the virtuous circle of people growth and place. Brought to you by Grow Places and hosted by our Founder, Tom Larsson. These short conversations with industry leaders and community figures share insights on the built environment and open up about their purpose and what drives them on a personal level. Thank you for listening. For more information please visit our website; www.growplaces.com and connect with us @WeGrowPlaces across all social channels. We cover topics such as real estate, property development, place, urban design, architecture, social value, sustainability, community, technology, div...

GP 62: Where Severance and Opportunity Collide: with Tom Holbrook of 5th Studio
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In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Tom Holbrook, Director of 5th Studio, to explore what it means to work across the full spectrum of architecture, urban design and strategic planning. Tom describes how 5th Studio has spent over two decades navigating what he calls "border country," the complex, often neglected edges of cities where political boundaries, infrastructure, severance and opportunity collide. From the Olympic Park in Stratford to Oxford and Cambridge colleges, from railway land to heavy infrastructure, he explains how synthetic, transdisciplinary thinking and a willingness to zoom between strategy and...


GP 61: Finding the Gold Dust in a Place: with Stephanie Edwards of Urban Symbiotics
#61
04/14/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Stephanie Edwards, Architect, Urban Designer and Co-Founder of Urban Symbiotics, to explore what it truly means to put people at the forefront of meaningful change in the built environment. Stephanie shares how Urban Symbiotics works at the intersection of people, data and design, using demographically representative engagement to turn lived experience into evidence that shapes better places. From street conversations and stay-and-play groups to targeted social media and multilingual outreach, she explains how her team meets people where they are, building trust and gathering insights that...


GP 60: Copenhagen's Socio-Economic Street Where Everyone Belongs: with Christian Søndergaard of Saxogade
#60
03/31/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson travels to Copenhagen to meet Christian Søndergaard, Head of Saxogade, what may be the world's only socio-economic street. For over 40 years, the nine-shop operation run by an NGO has combined commercial vitality with meaningful work opportunities for people facing significant barriers to employment, from long-term illness to homelessness.

Christian explains how the street functions as a real business whilst providing structured pathways back into work for around 100 people each week. Tasks are carefully broken down so that individuals can contribute genuine value rather than perform token a...


GP 59: I Just Love Places: with Hilary Satchwell of Tibbalds
#59
03/17/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Hilary Satchwell, Director at Tibbalds Planning and Urban Design, to explore what it really means to put people at the heart of placemaking. Hilary reflects on nearly three decades at Tibbalds, where she has worked across scales and settings, from the edges of small towns to the centre of London, always with a focus on creating people-friendly places. She describes how thinking about specific people, their journeys, their safety, their daily lives, rather than a generic "everyone," leads to fundamentally better outcomes. The conversation touches on...


GP 58: Passionate Delivery of Regeneration: with Gerry Hughes of Gerry Hughes Consulting
#58
03/03/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Gerry Hughes, Managing Director of Gerry Hughes Consulting, to explore leadership, delivery and the realities of urban regeneration. Gerry reflects on stepping away from the corporate world to focus on projects that genuinely “make a difference,” from leading a major city-centre regeneration scheme in Belfast to delivering a cutting-edge nuclear science and clean energy campus near Bristol. Drawing on decades of experience across strategy, planning and executive leadership, he shares candid insights into why delivery in the UK is so challenging — pointing to bureaucracy, siloed thinking and a...


GP 57: Investing to Make Life Better in Cities: with Jesse Shapins of Urban Partners
#57
02/17/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by Jesse Shapins, Head of Urban Regeneration at Urban Partners, to explore what it really takes to deliver neighbourhood scale change in European cities.
 
Jesse shares his journey from a childhood shaped by landscape architecture and historic preservation, through New York and Berlin, to the ambition and lessons of Sidewalk Labs, and ultimately to leading urban regeneration across Northern Europe. It is a story that connects culture, capital, and civic responsibility, and asks how places are intentionally shaped rather than left to chance.
 
To...


GP 56: Get Ahead With AI and How To Double Down: with John Williams of Scail UK
#56
02/03/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson is joined by John Williams of Scail UK to explore what it really means to get ahead with AI — and where the built environment should be doubling down as technology accelerates. John shares his journey from journalism, through senior marketing roles in property, to building AI-led businesses focused not on hype, but on unlocking the story inside organisational data.

Together, they discuss why AI is only as powerful as the data and context behind it, why real estate still struggles to understand the “why” behind customer decisions, and ho...


GP 55: Heritage Led Growth of Cities: with Ailish Killilea of The Townscape Consultancy
#55
01/13/2026

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson is joined by Ailish Killilea of The Townscape Consultancy, for a compelling exploration of heritage, townscape, and their roles in shaping places people want to live, work, and visit.

Ailish reflects on her journey from the west of Ireland to London’s complex urban fabric and her experiences running marathons, sharing how her fascination with human experience and design led to a career in townscape and heritage consulting. The conversation covers the nuanced balance between preservation and progress, how to assess the significance of buildings and pl...


GP 54: Upskilling Local Government: with Pooja Agrawal of Public Practice
#54
12/09/2025

In this powerful episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson speaks with Pooja Agrawal, co-founder and CEO of Public Practice, a pioneering not-for-profit that places built environment professionals into local government roles to drive meaningful change.

Pooja shares her journey from growing up in Mumbai to becoming a passionate advocate for public service in the UK. She dives deep into the importance of multidisciplinary teams in local government, the challenges of resourcing in the public sector, and why empathy between public and private sectors is more vital than ever.

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GP 53: Architecture for Real Life: Over 35 Years of Stories with Paul Monaghan of AHMM
#53
11/25/2025

How do you actually deliver a school, an office, or a housing block and turn it into something extraordinary?

In this episode, Tom Larsson speaks with Paul Monaghan, co-founder of AHMM, about a career spent designing buildings that shape everyday life and the people behind them. With warmth, honesty, and a quiet determination, Paul reflects on the evolution of architecture, the joy of delivering real projects, and why staying grounded matters in an ever-changing industry.

💬 From building loyalty inside his firm to earning the trust of clients and planners, Paul shares stories of lessons learned, cha...


GP 52: UK Politics, Housing, Growth: with Kevin McKeever of Lowick Group
#52
11/11/2025

In this episode, Tom Larsson is joined by Kevin McKeever, Managing Director of Lowick Group, a leading strategic communications and public affairs consultancy working at the intersection of development, politics, and community. Kevin also recently co-founded Hedry, a cross-party consultancy focused on building resilience in the built environment.

This wide-ranging and honest conversation unpacks the urgent challenges facing the UK’s housing and planning system, from viability and delivery to trust and political will. Drawing on decades of experience in local government, Westminster, and large-scale regeneration, Kevin provides sharp insights into the systemic issues stalling progress and wh...


GP 51: Place Personality: with Denz Ibrahim of Legal & General IM
#51
11/04/2025

In this insightful episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson sits down with one of the most forward-thinking voices in the UK real estate sector – Denz Ibrahim of Legal & General.  As Head of Futuring & Place, Denz shares how he and his team are turning traditional development models on their head by embedding creativity, community, and customer-centric design into every layer of placemaking.

We dive into Foundry, Legal & General’s innovative co-working and micro-enterprise platform that’s bringing underused spaces in town centres and new residential neighbourhoods to life. From repurposed job centres in Poole to high...


GP 50: How to Turn Big Ideas into Better Places: Architecture and Impact with Kai-Uwe Bergmann of BIG
#50
10/07/2025

In this milestone 50th episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson sits down with renowned architect Kai-Uwe Bergmann, Partner at BIG, to explore the interplay between design, place-making, and global urban transformation.

Recorded at BIG’s London studio, this episode dives into:

The evolution of BIG’s London office and its roots in the Google King’s Cross and Serpentine Pavilion projectsBIG’s philosophy of context-driven design, balancing global thinking with local relevancePowerful case studies like CopenHill (a power plant-turned-urban ski slope in Copenhag...


GP 49: How to unlock Co-Living: Redefining Urban Living with James Armitage-Hobbs of DP9
#49
09/23/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places podcast, Tom Larsson sits down with James Armitage-Hobbs, Director at DP9, to ask a big question: What role does co-living play in the future of our cities?

They explore:

How co-living has evolved over the past decade from a niche idea into a recognised housing model.Why loneliness, affordability, and housing shortages make professionally managed shared living so relevant today.The planning and policy challenges of a use class that doesn’t neatly fit existing categories.Lessons from early schemes, and how case studies shaped to...


GP 48: Can Architects Stay Relevant? AI and More with Keir Regan Alexander of Arka Works
#48
09/09/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places podcast, Tom Larsson sits down with Keir Regan Alexander of Arka Works to ask a big question: Can architects stay relevant in the age of AI?

They explore:

Why architects need to move beyond aesthetics to embrace responsibility, coordination, and strategy.How AI tools—from masterplanning software to generative models—are reshaping design practice.The risk of architecture being reduced to “product” and how the profession can push back.The evolving role of the architect as lead consultant, custodian of vision, and human in the loop.What bundling...


GP 47: The Barbican: The Future of Culture and Place with Pip Simpson
#47
07/22/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson sits down with Pip Simpson, Director of Buildings and Renewal, at the Barbican. They explore the evolving role of cultural institutions in shaping cities, fostering creativity, and building community. Pip shares insights from her experience at major UK institutions, discusses the Barbican’s unique mixed-use design, and reveals plans for its ambitious revitalization. From architecture and accessibility to programming and public engagement, this conversation uncovers how spaces like the Barbican can inspire, connect, and adapt for the future.


GP 46: Why Tribes Matter: Human Centric Real Estate Events with Rob Marten of SPACE+
#46
07/08/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, we sit down with Rob Marten, co-founder of SPACE+, to explore why tribes — small, intentional communities — are at the heart of human-centric real estate events.

Rob reflects on his journey from organising a village music festival called “Twigstock” as a teenager to co-creating SPACEUK, one of the UK’s most distinctive property events. Through candid stories and industry insights, he explains how smaller, more focused gatherings help challenge assumptions, create serendipity, and foster the kind of connection the real estate sector urgently needs.

We di...


GP 45: We Have To Change the Real Estate Industry and The World: with Kristian Kiis of Volcano
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06/24/2025

In this energising episode of the Grow Places podcast, Tom Larsson speaks with Kristian Riis—former rock musician and founder of creative placemaking agency Volcano —about the urgent need to rethink how we shape our cities, communities, and lives.

From life on tour with his band Nephew to working alongside governments, cultural entrepreneurs, and the King of Bhutan, Kristian shares how his passion for togetherness has evolved into a mission to transform the built environment. He unpacks the link between culture and wellbeing, why good placemaking is good business, and how temporary activation and flexibility are essential tool...


GP 44: Unlocking Major Regeneration: with Sophie Rosier of Savills
#44
06/10/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson sits down with Sophie Rosier, Head of London Mixed Use, Development, at Savills to explore the evolving landscape of city-making. From her early days at Television Centre to leading complex regeneration projects like Brent Cross Town, Sophie shares how passion, collaboration, and strategic vision are reshaping London’s urban fabric.

They discuss the increasing complexity of unlocking major mixed-use developments, the role of long-term partnerships, and the transformative impact of early community engagement. Sophie also highlights the importance of programs like UrbanPlan in inspiring the next ge...


GP 43: Regeneration Needs Trust: Partnerships with Kat Hanna of Avison Young
#43
05/28/2025

In this new episode of the Grow Places Podcast, we explore one of the most critical but often overlooked elements of successful regeneration: trust.

Kat Hanna, Co-Managing Director (London) at Avison Young, joins us to talk about her journey from public policy into real estate, and how meaningful partnerships—rooted in trust—are essential for delivering real, long-term change in our towns and cities.

🎯 We cover:

How regeneration strategies must evolve beyond physical designThe role of inclusive thinking and authentic engagementWhat public and private sector actors can learn from each otherWhy building trust e...


GP 42: What Really Affects Quality of Life? with Adam Hinds of LifeProven
#42
05/15/2025

What if we told you that the biggest driver of quality of life in a building isn’t space, location, or sleek design – but how connected people feel to each other?

In this thought-provoking episode of the Grow Places Podcast, Tom Larsson sits down with Adam Hinds, co-founder of LifeProven, to unpack what truly makes a place thrive. From ESG’s misunderstood reputation to surprising data on mental well-being in housing, this is a deep dive into how buildings influence lives – and how the real estate sector is only just beginning to catch up.

Adam shares t...


GP 41: Construction in Crisis? Exploring Challenges and Solutions: with Rachel Coleman of Turner & Townsend alinea
#41
04/29/2025

Rachel Coleman, Head of Research at Turner & Townsend Alinea, takes us on a fascinating journey through the interconnected worlds of construction economics, data analytics, and place-making in this thought-provoking conversation.

With disarming candour, Rachel shares how she stumbled into a career in construction after studying physical geography — intending just a one-year office stint before returning to university. That temporary role evolved into a fulfilling vocation, connecting people and processes, addressing inefficiencies, and ensuring valuable knowledge flows through projects.

Despite the persistent challenges facing development — from rising costs to material shortages — Rachel offers refreshingly optimistic perspectives. She ch...


GP 40: PropTech’s Origin Story and What Next: with Faisal Butt of Pi Labs
#40
04/15/2025

In this episode, Tom Larsson speaks with Faisal Butt, founder of Pi Labs, about the evolution of PropTech and real estate venture capital. Faisal reflects on his journey from a tech-driven background to pioneering investments in property technology, coining the term “PropTech.” He discusses Pi Labs’ progression across three funds, investing in startups ranging from SaaS to robotics and AI. Highlighting breakthroughs like AI converting architectural drawings and security drones, Faisal emphasises the need for clearer pilot-to-rollout processes in real estate innovation. He advocates for defined ROI and leadership trust to unlock scalable growth and drive industry-wide transformation. 


GP 39: What’s The Problem You Are Trying to Solve? with James Pellatt of Digital Trees
#39
04/01/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson speaks with James Pellatt, founder of Digital Trees and former Director of Innovation at GPE, about the deep structural inefficiencies in real estate—and how data and technology can be the key to unlocking lasting change.

James shares the thinking behind launching Digital Trees, his pragmatic approach to innovation, and why leadership, culture, and curiosity are essential to digital transformation. Drawing from decades in the sector, he unpacks why PropTech often fails to scale, how sustainability commitments created new data burdens, and why AI’s biggest oppo...


GP 38: Pleasure in The Simple Things: with Emily Wright of CREtech
#38
03/18/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson sits down with journalist and CREtech's Head of Content, Emily Wright, to explore the evolving narratives around real estate, design, and the human experience of place.

Emily shares insights from her 20-year career in the industry, reflecting on how conversations around well-being, sustainability, and placemaking have shifted from niche concerns to mainstream priorities. She discusses the power of human-centred design, the changing role of public vs. private space, and the industry’s responsibility to cr...


GP 37: Where Two Things Meet Something Else Happens: with Tom & James Teatum of Noiascape
#37
03/04/2025

Welcome to the Grow Places Podcast, where we explore the virtuous circle of people, growth, and place. Hosted by our founder, Tom Larsson, this episode takes a deep dive into architecture, development, and urban living with Tom & James Teatum, co-founders of Noiascape.

Noiascape is redefining the way we think about housing, blurring the boundaries between living, working, and social space. The brothers share their journey from architectural practice to development and operations, explaining why fragmentation in the built environment limits innovation and how their integrated...


GP 36: Finding a Voice to Grow Places: with Angela Crowther of Arup
#36
02/18/2025

Discover the transformational power of purposeful design with Angela Crowther, a director at Arup, as she shares her journey from engineering to master planning and how her work in post-tsunami Indonesia reshaped her perspective on community resilience. Angela reveals the vital role that thoughtful design plays in rebuilding communities, emphasizing the significance of ecological restoration projects like mangrove reforestation. Listen as she combines rigorous analysis with creativity to address complex challenges and advocates for a systemic approach to urban design with a focus on sustainability and well-being.

Gain insights into the evolution of urban design collaboration, where...


GP 35: Urban Integration from Policy to Pavements: with Lucy Musgrave of Publica
#35
02/04/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson is joined by Lucy Musgrave, founder of Publica, to explore the intricate relationship between urban policy, design, and real-world impact.

From shaping London’s most iconic streets and spaces to influencing major policy initiatives like Good Growth by Design, Lucy shares her insights on how cities can evolve in a way that is both inclusive and sustainable. They discuss Publica’s research-driven approach, the role of civic leadership in shaping urban futures, and why listening to d...


GP 34: Beyond the Gloss: Authentic Visual Place Storytelling: with Nicholas Worley of Fletcher Priest Architects
#34
01/21/2025

In this episode of the Grow Places Podcast, host Tom Larsson speaks with Nicholas Worley, partner at Fletcher Priest Architects and a passionate photographer, about the power of authenticity in visual storytelling for architecture and design.

Nicholas shares his journey from studying architecture to becoming a renowned photographer, highlighting how his dual careers have influenced his approach to creating meaningful spaces and visuals. Together, they explore the evolution from glossy, aspirational imagery to genuine narratives that reflect how spaces truly feel and function.

Key highlights include:

The significance of ...


GP 33: Economics to Reflect Modern Life: with Leading Economist Bridget Rosewell CBE
#33
01/07/2025

Discover how traditional economics is being reshaped to meet the complexities of modern life with the pioneering insights of Bridget Rosewell CBE. Bridget shares her journey from the classrooms of Oxford University to leading infrastructure projects like Crossrail, where she champions a more human-centered approach to economic modelling. Her insights reveal the transformative potential of integrating human behaviour and social factors into economic frameworks, providing fresh perspectives on infrastructure planning and societal growth.

As we navigate the pressing issue of housing affordability, we unravel the intricate dynamics of land costs, planning constraints, and strategic development. By exploring...


GP 32: Will your business survive the future? with Richard Pickering of Cushman & Wakefield
#32
11/26/2024

Be as provocative as you dare towards the Real Estate Industry ... Will your business survive the future?

Discover the future of real estate with Richard Pickering, the Head of Innovation for Cushman & Wakefield in the EMEA region. Explore the critical role of strategic foresight in real estate, as Richard shares his journey from consulting to leading innovation. Gain insights on translating visionary concepts into tangible strategies, and ponder the challenge of merging long-term planning with immediate execution in an industry poised for transformation.

Join us as we tackle the pressing issues at the intersection of...


GP 31: Every Project Needs a Good Client: with Colm Lacey of Soft Cities and NCC
#31
11/12/2024

Every project needs a good client, so today we hear from one! 

Colm Lacey, whose deep experience being a Client on built environment projects in public housing and education for entities such as Brick By Brick, provides the insights. Colm's journey from housing development to shaping educational estates in London and beyond provides a unique lens through which we explore the concept of "soft cities" and more broadly the role of being an educated client in the built environment. Learn how cities can thrive through their activities, relationships, and energies rather than just their physical structures. Gain v...


GP 30: Empowering Female Talent: with Vanessa Murray of The Circle Partnership
#30
10/29/2024

Ever wondered how to empower female talent in real estate ?

Join us as Vanessa Murray, a former music student turned senior asset manager, shares her inspiring journey from having zero industry connections to managing high-profile projects like the former BBC Television Centre redevelopment. Vanessa's story is a testament to the power of mentorship and determination, leading her to establish the Circle Partnership—a groundbreaking initiative aimed at empowering mid-level female talent in real estate through mentorship and skill-building opportunities.

Mentorship, transparency, and authenticity are the cornerstones of professional growth, and Vanessa passionately discusses their significance. We...


GP 29: National Park City: with Director Mark Cridge
#29
10/15/2024

What happens if our cities are National Parks? 

We're joined by Mark Cridge, the director of the National Park City Foundation, as we explore this bold vision, using London as a ground-breaking example. Almost half of London is green and blue space, filled with diverse species and rich with potential. This episode challenges the traditional view of urbanity by reimagining cities as thriving ecosystems that can play a pivotal role in battling climate and environmental crises. Through powerful storytelling, we uncover how urban spaces can nurture both nature and community, creating a vibrant tapestry of life in u...


GP 28: Consensus Building: Planning Urban Development with David Morris of DP9
#28
09/23/2024

Discover the essence of strategic planning with insights from industry expert David Morris, board director at DP9, an independent planning consultancy in London. Journey with us as David shares his path from a geography student to an influential planner, highlighting the critical value of long-term relationships and collaboration in the planning sector. Learn how fostering teamwork and communication can transform the planning process into a forum for resolving conflicts and achieving consensus.

Uncover the delicate balance between commercial viability and community enrichment in development projects. David discusses how the planning industry has shifted from mere 'development control...


GP 27: Truman Brewery 10: Not Conventional Landlords: with Steve from the Truman Brewery
#27
09/09/2024

Join us on a special on-site episode of the Grow Places Podcast, hosted by founder Tom Larsson, as we explore the vibrant ecosystem of the Truman Brewery in East London. Recorded live in the heart of Brick Lane, Spitalfields, and Banglatown, this episode features an in-depth conversation with Steve, the site manager of the Truman Brewery, who shares how this iconic space has evolved into a thriving hub of creativity, commerce, and community.

Discover how the Brewery’s unique people-centric approach sets it apart from conventional office spaces, hosting a diverse range of businesses—from large corporations like...


GP 26: Truman Brewery 09: Change can be a good thing: with Henley Halebrown
#26
08/15/2024

Change can be a good thing ... Ever wondered how historic neighbourhoods evolve while preserving their character and enhancing their public benefit? 


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We take you behind the scenes of one of London’s most iconic sites—Truman Brewery on Brick Lane. 

Join us as we walk with architects Simon and April from Henley Halebrown, along with Tom from Grow Places, to discuss the ambitious redevelopment of Block J known as the Banglatown Cash and Carry site. This project is more than...


GP 25: Truman Brewery 08: Local Community Wealth Building: with Volterra Partners
#25
08/08/2024

Discover how the dynamic economic ecosystem of East London is shaping up in our latest episode recorded at the iconic Truman Brewery. Joined by Alex O'Byrne and Peter Reddy from Volterra Partners, and Tom Larsson, the development manager from Grow Places, we promise a deep dive into the socioeconomic impacts of major developments in Tower Hamlets. Learn about the importance of nurturing a naturally evolving community within this vibrant area, where maintaining cultural and business diversity is key.

Ever wondered how local political activism and community sentiment shape urban development strategies? Alex and Peter reveal how strong...


GP 24: Truman Brewery 07: Continuing 350 Years of Adaptable Industrial Heritage: with Carmody Groarke
#24
07/30/2024

Welcome to the Grow Places podcast, where we delve deep into the symbiotic relationship between people, growth, and place. In this special episode, recorded on-site at the historic Truman Brewery in East London, host Tom Larsson is in discussion again with another key team member from our ongoing redevelopment project.

Discover how the plans for the existing Cooperage building (Block K) and a new Block 1 are doing just that with Lukas Barry from Carmody Groarke. Join us as we explore the creation of new adaptable workspaces, vibrant retail environments, and new community art space and micro-brewery on...


GP 23: Truman Brewery 06: Making Places Work Well for People and Planet: with Arup
#23
07/18/2024

Dive into our latest conversation with Angela Crowther and Letty Lucy from Arup on the groundbreaking redevelopment of East London's iconic Truman Brewery. Discover how sustainable practices, community impact, and innovative design are helping this historic area to grow as a vibrant urban space.

Unlock the secrets behind transformative neighbourhood scale regeneration! Angela, an expert in structural engineering and environmental sustainability, and Letty, a specialist in social impact and community benefits, reveal their multidisciplinary approach to fostering a biodiverse and accessible environment in Spitalfields and Banglatown.

🌍 Get inspired by their vision for a vibrant, ada...