The Pocket Contemplative

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On Right-Brain Faith
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#127
Today at 1:00 AM

We love to talk about neuroscience on The Pocket Contemplative and here a prominent scholar helps us understand what happens as we pursue contemplative practice. Namely, we move out of our fundamental "left-brain bias" which has been fooling us that the things we think are, like, mostly "true" and helps us experience the often-uncharted waters of our more holistic right brain. We'll talk about fascinating ideas of what constitutes our "self." We'll hear about a prominent neuroscientist who had a stroke and lost use of her left-brain for a bit, only to discover a kind of gratitude and well-being...


LGBTQ and Churches 2: What Should Churches Do?
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#126
10/03/2026

Last episode, Dave Schmelzer did a scholarly tour through five scriptures that on the surface appear to address LGBTQ people's relationship to some churches. Today, he concludes this exploration of this central issue for many congregations with a look at one more scripture--the creation narrative--along with offering a number of considerations that he and other church leaders have found to be invaluable. 

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A number of helpful books are touched on here, but one that's proven particularly useful around the idea of a "third way" has been Roger E. Olson's The Mosaic o...


LGBTQ and Churches 1: The Scriptures
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#125
09/18/2026

A hot-button issue in many churches in recent years has been the place of LGBTQ congregants. For progressives, this seems like an obvious justice issue. But for many traditionalists this seems like a holiness issue that the Bible addresses unambiguously. In this episode, Dave Schmelzer offers context to this conversation before offering a scholarly tour through five of the scriptures that commonly come up as he discovers that the Bible is more complex on this than we might think.


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Alongside the many books mentioned during the episode, one helpful exploration...


The Biggie Theory of Christian Growth
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#124
07/11/2026

In the last TPC, Dave Schmelzer talked about how a profound union with God is what 1,200 years of Christian spirituality teaches is what you and I most want--though you might not have been taught this after the Reformers went in a different direction. In this episode, Dave dives into the most lasting theory in the Christian tradition about how we might get this union, Teresa of Avila's seven-stage "The Interior Castle."  (A note: The Pocket Contemplative will break until September after this episode.)


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What You Most Want from God
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#123
06/30/2026

When you explore the history of Christian spirituality, you run across a big surprise. For 1,200 years, the biggie Christian teachers told us that we've been created to profoundly want one and only one thing--union with God along the lines of what Teresa of Avila calls "mystical marriage." Maybe you weren't taught that! If not, you might want to blame John Calvin, who wrote at the same time as Teresa and shouted her down, saying that we instead were profoundly separated from God. Dave Schmelzer will discuss how that union has been described and will suggest ways in which we...


How Prayer Helps You Get Stuff Done
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#122
06/11/2026

In this longer episode, Dave Schmelzer reviews fascinating research about how prayer--and faith--can work so powerfully. He reviews a new book by Nir Eyal which explores the crucial role of injecting hope into our lives and how, that done, our bodies can thrive and we can develop what Eyal calls the "high agency" that can empower us to take meaningful action when life throws obstacles our way. Dave considers how this ties in with how churches look to develop strong faith in you and me and how this might inform things like prayers for healing. 

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The Mystic's Mystic (History Corner)
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#121
05/26/2026

Generations of people exploring contemplative spirituality, both in the Christian tradition (Thomas Merton) and outside of it (Thich Nhat Hanh) have gone back again and again to one brilliant and confounding teacher, the German academic and mystic Meister Eckhart. He's the mystic other mystics look to. Dave Schmelzer will take just a bit more time than normal to unpack why this might be so and to give you a window into his own enthusiasm for Eckhart.


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Finding Happiness after Regret or Loss
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#120
05/10/2026

We talk about happiness every now and again, but how can we find it if we realize the things we'd been pinning our happiness on, our biggest dreams, just aren't going to happen? Or even if the bottom really seems to fall out, if we get a terrible diagnosis or someone we love does? What then? Dave Schmelzer discusses research from Sonja Lyubomirsky that suggests potent ways forward. 

Mentioned on this podcast:

Sonja Lyubomirsky's book The Myths of Happiness: What Should Make You Happy, but Doesn't, What Shouldn't Make You Happy, but Does

T...


The Monk Who Invented Psychotherapy (History Corner)
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#119
04/15/2026

The connection between contemplative practice and psychotherapy is often noted, but how that came to be is a fascinating story. Dave Schmelzer offers a look at fourth century monk Evagrius of Pontus as a key example of what came out of desert spirituality and, in particular, as the (possible) originator of things you might know and love like the Enneagram, the seven deadly sins and, yes, what Freud and Jung spun into modern psychiatry. Dave closes with a brief look at Evagrius's student and champion and a major player in his own right, John Cassian.


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Why Getting What You Want Won't Make You Happy
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#118
03/24/2026

Cutting to the chase, getting what we want won't make us happy because of what the researchers call "hedonic adaptation." The good news is that these same researchers tell us these desires for our lives absolutely can be central in helping us create a happy life. So what gives? How can our dreams for our lives work for us and not against us? Dave Schmelzer will explore this key question by way of famed happiness researcher Sonja Lyubomirsky's research and insights. But before getting there, he'll look at this question a bit more broadly by considering Carl Jung's "Five...


When Christianity Gets Tied to the State (History Corner)
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#117
03/11/2026

In another episode of Dave's "history corner," he looks at the cataclysm that happened when the emperor made Christianity the state's religion in 325. Where Christians had been poor, persecuted and few in number, it now messed with the heads of the old guard to suddenly be favored and joined by millions of far less devout "fellow Christians" who loved the perks of their connection to power. The response of a few bold people to head to the wilderness changed what Christian faith--and its contemplative variant--was to become. It's quite a story. 


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On Spirituality and Your Health
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#116
02/20/2026

Contemplative practice has a remarkable connection to our physical health, among its many benefits. Dave Schmelzer will review how it connects with lengthening our telomeres, the caps on our chromosomes which determine whether we age with vigor or disease. He'll touch on advice for stress management and exercise and diet and sleep, all in a context of a mindful world. 


Mentioned on this podcast

The Telomere Effect: A Revolutionary Approach to Living Younger, Healthier, Longer, by Elizabeth Blackburn and Elissa Epel

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Why Some Christians Distrust Mysticism (History Corner)
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#115
02/04/2026

"I dunno, that seems kind of out there to me" is a sentiment that has shadowed Christian conversations from the start. Dave Schmelzer takes us on a journey to the second century when early attempts to define orthodoxy made consequential choices about how much our experience might inform our understanding of who God is. He introduces us to key figures like Irenaeus and to a consequential debate that perhaps we haven't heard about: whether the fourth gospel would be John's or Thomas's.


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Journey to the Heart: Christian Contemplation...


Aging as a Spiritual Practice
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#114
01/08/2026

After relaying some brief advice from Dick Van Dyke about turning 100, Dave Schmelzer chats about some wisdom from the Buddhist therapist Lewis Richmond about what he's learned by working with aging clients. Dave touches on fascinating ideas from Richmond about horizontal versus vertical time and the isolation of a sudden setback and experiencing aging as a fresh start along with much more.


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Lewis Richmond's book Aging as a Spiritual Practice: A Contemplative Guide to Growing Older and Wiser

Here's how to learn more...


Finding a Third Way in a Divided World
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#113
11/22/2025

Mark Charbonneau and his friends at The Vine church in Austin, Texas are charting a unique way forward in our cultural and religious divisions. Dave Schmelzer talks with him about what their “third way” looks like and how it might help all of us in the middle of such unprecedented divisions. Does it only apply to a small number of people of good will? Does it offer broader hope? They close with a few words about the life of a pastor at all, much less one in the middle of these sorts of cultural divides. 


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On Playfulness
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#112
10/25/2025

Some great thinkers like GK Chesterton and Meister Eckhart pitch that right at the heart of God's reality is play and that the more we can tap into this bone-deep playfulness, even in the middle of realities that look quite unpromising and overwhelming, the better we'll thrive.

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The God Who Plays: A Playful Approach to Theology and Spirituality, by Brian Edgar 

Play: How it Shapes the Brain, Opens the Imagination, and Invigorates the Soul, by Stuart Brown M.D.

Meister Eckhart: A Mystic-Warrior for O...


Let's talk about wanting things
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#111
10/11/2025

One of the charms of Christian faith is that so many scriptures encourage us to ask God for things we want. But as we age we realize it must be more complicated than that--and the great contemplatives add complexities as they focus on things like union with God as the main thing or with cautions about things like "disordered attachments". But we still do in fact want things! Dave Schmelzer offers us some things to ponder in these conundrums.


Let's "Hallow" Our Day-to-Day Work
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#110
08/07/2025

One unexpected outcome of the Christian contemplative life is that, per the Benedictines, we'll discover that the stuff we need to do everyday has the possibility of moving from "that stuff we have to get done" to "co-creating a better world with God." And not just that, but it also then might make our days feel rich and purposeful when they'd been feeling less than that. Christa Connelly helped facilitate a fascinating conversation on the ins and outs of this and she and Dave Schmelzer talk about what it's meant for her and might mean for you. 


Holy Spirit Power! (For Contemplatives)
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#109
07/19/2025

Dave Schmelzer used to lead a church in which looking to experience power that we're told comes from the Holy Spirit was a big deal. Does that view of the spiritual life translate to a contemplative world? It turns out the answer is not just "yes," but even "oh, you have no idea."


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Check out the next session of Faith Part 2 in October. It's a free 8-week online look at some crucial but lesser-taught riches of Christian faith that might help us when our initial faith experience falters...


How Friendships Can Drive Spiritual Growth
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#108
06/28/2025

Dave Schmelzer and Curtis Gruenler (an English professor and medievalist) have been friends since college and they talk about the ins and outs of how friendships themselves can empower the kind of growth in God that we talk about on The Pocket Contemplative.


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If you'd like to register interest in October's (free, eight-week) Faith Part 2 course, let us know here.

Curtis is launching a Substack on friendship (from a medievalist's perspective)

Curtis and Dave allude in passing to:

Spiritual...


Why Your Kids Don't Go to Church (Part 2)
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#107
05/31/2025

In this continuation of a look (from Notre Dame sociologist Chrisitan Smith) at the religious world that Millennials in particular are living in, Dave Schmelzer will continue to look at some large, cultural forces at play before turning to some self-inflicted wounds from religion.  


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Register your interest here for this fall's Faith Part 2 course, a free, online look at how the Christian tradition (sometimes partnering with other contemplative traditions and modern neuroscience) encourages us into an unexpected second chapter of faith after, perhaps, our initial experience o...


Why Your Kids Don't Go to Church (Part 1)
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#106
05/15/2025

Evangelical parents are taught that a key part of their parental responsibility is to raise their kids to be Christians. But that's becoming, in an understatement, far more challenging  says notable Notre Dame sociologist Christian Smith. In this revealing first of a two part podcast, Dave Schmelzer will walk you through some of the large-scale cultural forces that, Smith reports, are driving religion to a kind of cultural obsolescence. 

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Register your interest here for this fall's Faith Part 2 course, a free, online look at how the Christian tradition (sometimes partnering with ot...


Do's and Don'ts of Hearing God's Voice
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#105
04/30/2025

Many earnest evangelicals and charismatics, Dave Schmelzer among them, have found comfort and connection in learning to hear God's voice in the spirit taught by the great 17th-century contemplative Brother Lawrence. But an insurmountable problem usually comes up: as delightful as the conversation itself is, lots and lots of things that are important to us don't actually work out in ways we'd felt like God was telling us they would. And, eventually, we wise up and quit this dialogue. But that is not the advice of some great contemplatives, who tell us that we've been making one key mistake...


Being Spiritual in an Unsafe World
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#104
04/18/2025

Many of the most prominent social activists in the last half century or so have also been contemplatives: Howard Thurman, the Dalai Lama, and Thomas Merton among others. Does the sort of spirituality we talk about here have things to offer in a world like ours where people feel daily outrages flowing through their media feeds? Might our practices actually be negative--in that moving past constant reactivity might make us too passive? But surely constant outrage mostly leads to hopelessness (and unpleasant days). Dave Schmelzer is joined by Grace Schmelzer and Steve Joh (a former pastor who currently leads...


Union with God (and Maybe Beyond)
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#103
01/07/2025

The end goal of spiritual development for most great Christian contemplatives is some sort of union with God. But many people find that to feel pretty distant--maybe it's something we can only hope for in heaven. But a recent, major Christian contemplative named Bernadette Roberts offers a more direct pathway not only to union with God (and maybe beyond), but also to direct lifestyle benefits along the lines of what psychologists call "flow." She talks about it using the Eastern terminology of no-self. Dave Schmelzer has found it to be the most helpful spiritual thing he's learned in some...


Post-Election Thoughts from Julian of Norwich
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#102
12/06/2024

Some people, feeling unsettled by the election, have wondered what the wisdom talked about on The Pocket Contemplative might offer us. Dave Schmelzer looks to Julian of Norwich, who lived during her own unsettling time (the Bubonic Plague), for some thoughts. In his introduction, he also talks about "Faith Part 2," a new 8-week online course about the how-to's of a faith that, learning from the greats, might help to move us past faith challenges into a richer life with God than perhaps we've yet been exposed to. 


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Your Life is Speeding Up! Try “Resonance.”
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#101
11/07/2024

 Hartmut Rosa is a German sociologist whom many Christians have been looking to as a guide to how our lives seem to be accelerating. Do we somehow need to opt out of this acceleration if we want a happy life, much less a life with God? Rosa says no, opting out isn’t possible. But he does have a contemplative answer: “resonance,” a kind of paying attention that can sit alongside much of what we talk about here. Vince Brackett, a Chicago pastor, and Rosa devotee, walks us through this fascinating view of a rich life in a busy world.<...


On Second-Half-of-Life Spiritual Growth
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#101
10/21/2024

Dave Schmelzer is in touch with many people who are, to a greater or lesser degree, deconstructing their earlier faith experience, a common process for midlife people of faith. HIstoric Christian spirituality tells us there's a unique second-half-of-life flowering of faith. Dave lets us in on a series of conversations he's been having about how we might explore that in our era. 

Mentioned on this podcast:


Short videos about The Critical Journey's stages of faith

Intriguing blog posts about "post-progressive" faith


Why You Love Nature (with Howard Thurman)
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#100
09/19/2024

Howard Thurman was the great behind-the-scenes spiritual leader of America’s civil rights movement. Martin Luther King was said to carry a copy of Thurman’s Jesus and the Disinherited with him for inspiration on each march. But Thurman starts by being among the great nature mystics in the Christian tradition. Why do you (like everyone) love nature so much? For Thurman, that’s part of how we create that strong inner self that so influenced King and others.


Mentioned on this podcast:

What Makes You Come Alive: A Spiritual Walk with Howard Thurman, by Ler...


Be Happy?" Or "Live Well?
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#99
06/28/2024

I want to be happy. You want to be happy. But maybe our best pathway there comes by focusing instead on "living well.". MIT philosopher Kieran Setiya's book Life Is Hard helps Dave Schmelzer navigate those choices, with a particular look at how it applies when we feel like a failure or when we're hunting for meaning.


Mentioned on this podcast:

Kieran Setiya's book Life is Hard: How Philosophy Can Help Us Find Our Way (which, at the moment, is a mere $4.99 on Kindle)


Context Matters
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#98
06/06/2024

Here at The Pocket Contemplative, we do deep dives into some of the richest Christian wisdom one can find about getting close to God. But one revolutionary thinker suggested that, while that's all wonderful and we should learn all we can from such people, these great saints did live in a very different world with very different spiritual dynamics than we live in. Many were cloistered. The average person was born into the trade of their family, married someone from their village, and went to the local church like all their neighbors did. But by the 1850s that Soren...


Christian Mysticism's Deep Roots
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#97
04/30/2024

Christian Contemplative Spirituality--alternately called Christian Mysticism--has gone in and out of favor over the millennia, but has rich roots from the Hebrew Bible forward. With help from the work of Carl McColman, Dave Schmelzer will help orient you as you look to navigate this vital, essential stream.


Mentioned on this podcast: 

Carl McColman's The New Big Book of Christian Mysticism: An Essential Guide to Contemplative Spirituality


Start with Curiosity (wisdom on joy and trust from Julian of Norwich)
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#96
04/13/2024

Is there a secret of life? Contemplatives of many stripes suggest it surround cultivating a kind of trust and openness that endures through the hardest of times. Dave Schmelzer dives into wisdom on this from the most optimistic of contemplatives, Julian of Norwich (C.S. Lewis and Thomas Merton both said she was their go-to contemplative teacher). Julian lived through the bubonic plague and yet came out of it with a remarkable trust that others around her didn't have.


Mentioned on this podcast:

Julian of Norwich: Wisdom in a Time of Pandemic and Beyond...


Stay "Green" as You Age (via Hildegard of Bingen)
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#95
03/27/2024

Christianity's most potent and lasting advice on aging well comes from one of its most remarkable contemplatives: Hildegard of Bingen from the 12th century. She was an explosion of creativity: she wrote the first known opera (by hundreds of years). She was an architect, a physician, a poet, a painter, a composer, a theologian and a leader of women. This podcast will look at her pitch that "greening" is the road to joy, fruitfulness and vitality as we age.


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Hildegard of Bingen: A Saint for Our Times, by Matthew Fox<...


On Creativity (via Meister Eckhart)
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#94
03/06/2024

Maybe the most-influential Christian mystic, Meister Eckhart, had profound thoughts about how our spiritual practice is meant to--even must!--empower our creativity. Dave Schmelzer dives into Eckhart's deep, generative waters here.


Mentioned on this podcast: 

Meister Eckhart: A Mystic-Warrior for Our Times, by Matthew Fox


How Philosophy Helps (with Kieran Setiya)
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#93
02/18/2024

Kieran Setiya--a philosopher at MIT who wrote the terrific book Midlife: A Philosophical Guide that Dave Schmelzer talked about on the last episode--joins Dave for a lively conversation about how philosophy can help with our deepest questions and about how it interacts with the spirituality we talk about here. 

Mentioned on this podcast:

Midlife: A Philosophical Guide, by Kieran Setiya

LIfe is Hard: How Philosophy Can Help Us Find Our Way, by Kieran Setiya




On Midlife Crisis
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#92
02/01/2024

Philosophers and theologians offer different answers to how we should feel about the losses we confront in midlife. Kieran Setiya, a philosopher teaching at MIT, wrote a terrific recent book on midlife crisis. Dave Schmelzer highlights some of Setiya's best stuff, including Setiya's takes on missed opportunities, why we can simultaneously regret and not regret where our lives have taken us, and whether there is help for those moments when we realize we're not as far from dying as we once were.

Mentioned on this podcast: 

Kieran Setiya's book, Midlife: A Philosophical Guide


Let's Get Pragmatic
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#91
01/09/2024

When Dave Schmelzer first started exploring contemplative spirituality, he had a hard time finding teachers who would get pragmatic in the "just do this, and then do this, and then do this, and here's what you should discover" sense. Mo Gawdat has written a bestselling guide along those lines called Solve for Happy. Dave walks us through Gawdat's pathway to get moving. 


Mentioned on this podcast:

Mo Gawdat's book Solve for Happy: Engineer Your Path to Joy

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Finding Faith in a Secular Age (with Andrew Root)
#90
10/24/2023

As Dave Schmelzer and Vince Brackett talked about in a recent episode, faith looks very different than it did a few hundred years back--and even than it did sixty years back. Professor Andrew Root--who was Vince's enthusiastic teacher on the subject--walks us into some of the ins and outs of what this looks and feels like.

Faith Formation in a Secular Age: Responding to the Church's Obsession with Youthfulness, by Andrew Root, the first in a series of books about living in a secular age as seen through the eyes of Charles Taylor and Hartmut Rosa.

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Mpho Tutu van Furth on Forgiveness
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#90
09/25/2023

Dave Schmelzer's new favorite book on forgiveness (and maybe one of his favorite books period) is by Desmond Tutu and his daughter Mpho Tutu van Furth. Mpho joins Dave from Amsterdam to talk about what she's taken from the book in years since, her reflections on it being forged out of South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission and much more.

Mentioned on this podcast:

The Book of Forgiving: The Fourfold Path for Healing Ourselves and Our World, by Desmond and Mpho Tutu.