New Media Show (Video)
Build an audience. Earn trust. Grow a media business. New Media Show with Rob Greenlee features practical conversations about podcasting, video, AI, audience ownership, distribution and creator revenue. Explore the decisions, tradeoffs and useful ideas behind sustainable independent media businesses. Find episodes and resources at NewMediaShow.com. The archive includes conversations with longtime co-host Todd Cochrane. Video edition.
Who Wins Content Discovery? | Neil Mody, Headliner #695 (Video)
How do listeners discover a podcast and decide to come back?
Rob Greenlee sits down with Neil Mody, CEO and co-founder of Headliner, at Ginni Media Studios in New York City. They ask what helps someone discover a show and what gives that person a reason to come back. The conversation covers YouTube, social clips, podcast apps, RSS, newsletters, and what AI can and can’t tell a creator about which moments are worth sharing.
People can find a podcast through YouTube, social clips, search, or an app recommendation. In episode 695, Neil Mody explains why th...
Can Creators Still Build Trust in the AI Era? | Yuri Kleban, Google #694 (Video)
When AI can make anything look polished, what earns an audience’s trust?
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Can creators still build trust when AI can generate convincing voices, polished videos, personalized messages, and entire digital personalities? The harder question is what makes someone worth following when production quality becomes easier to reproduce.
In New Media Show #694, Rob Greenlee talks with Yuri Kleban, introduced as a Global Product Lead Manager in Partnerships at Google, about the human contribution to AI-assisted media. They explore originality, disclosure, storytelling, creative judgment, and the relationship between creators and au...
Creators Get SBA Classification. Now What? | Avi Gandhi, Creators Guild #693 (Video)
Creators are businesses. What does SBA recognition actually change?
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Creators produce content, build audiences, sell products, hire people, and take financial risks. So what changes when the federal government more clearly recognizes that work as a small business?
In New Media Show #693, Rob Greenlee talks with Avi Gandhi, Chair of Government Advocacy at the Creators Guild of America and founder of Creator Access Network, about the Small Business Administration’s October 15, 2026 guidance on qualifying creator businesses. Avi explains how the effort came together, what the NAICS 5121 classification means, and wh...
What Does a Video Podcast Need to Compete? At Gotham Production Studios | #692 (Video)
Video podcast production at Gotham Production Studios
In New Media Show #692, Rob Greenlee takes the conversation into Gotham Production Studios in New York City for an in-person discussion with co-founders Brianna Peters and Matt Peters about the changing business of video podcast production.
From a quick studio tour to a conversation about cameras, content strategy, AI, and audience relationships, this episode explores what it takes to create a show people keep coming back to.
The key question: how can creators improve video production quality, build a sustainable business, and preserve the human connection...
Who Profits From Video? The Real Cost of Video Podcasting | #691 (Video)
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In New Media Show #691, Rob Greenlee and podcast sponsorship strategist Losh Moodaley examine a practical question: when does the cost of video serve the creator’s business? Their conversation connects production economics, audience relationships, sponsorships and human creativity in an AI-driven media environment.
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Build an audience: connect platform discovery to a direct relationship. Rob and Losh discuss newsletters, websites and subscriptions as ways to reduce dependence on one distribution platform. Earn trust: make relevance and human connection part of the experience. Their discussion of sponsorships considers how a...How AI Is Changing the Creator Workflow | Descript CEO Laura Burkhauser #690 (Video)
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The Creator Reset: AI, Trust and What Comes Next | Jim Louderback #689 (Video)
In New Media Show #689, I’m joined by Jim Louderback, publisher of Inside the Creator Economy and former CEO of VidCon and Revision3, to explore what the next phase of the creator economy means for people building media businesses.
Jim and I have lived through several shifts at the intersection of media and technology. This conversation connects the early days of video podcasting with today’s AI tools, changing audience habits, and the search for a lasting creator business. More ways to create and distribute content bring opportunity, but they also raise questions about attention, ownership, and trus...
Podcasting’s Identity Crisis: Who Controls Podcasts Now? | James Cridland #688 (Video)
Your podcast can be available everywhere and still be hard to find. So who controls its future: the creator, the audience, or the platform?
In New Media Show #688, Rob Greenlee welcomes back James Cridland, Editor of Podnews, co-host of the Podnews Weekly Review, and a 2026 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, for a conversation about what Podcast Week in New York City revealed about our industry.
We compare notes on the IAB Podcast Upfronts, CreatorFronts, and a very different NYC Podcast Movement. James also shares his experience at the Sounds Profitable Business Summit.
The w...
Don’t Just Make Videos: Build a Creator Media Company | Roberto Blake #687 (Video)
Getting views, streams, and downloads is not the same as building a business. Subscribers aren’t automatically customers, and a successful YouTube channel doesn’t necessarily mean you have built something sustainable.
In New Media Show #687, Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee talks with Creator, Educator, Author, and Entrepreneur Roberto Blake, founder of Awesome Creator Academy, about what comes after becoming a content creator and why more creators need to think of themselves as independent media companies rather than defining themselves by one format or platform.
Roberto argues that being a podcaster, YouTuber, streamer, or blog...
Hidden Revenue: What Media Publishers Are Leaving Behind | Sean Howard, Flightpath #686 (Video)
Podcast media creator publishers may already have more revenue opportunity than they realize. The challenge is not always finding more listeners. It can be understanding what inventory is actually available to sell, what to sell, whether campaigns will deliver, and where revenue is being lost.
In this episode #686 of the New Media Show, Rob Greenlee talks with Sean Howard, CEO and co-founder of Flightpath.fm, about the growing complexity behind new media podcast advertising and why better forecasting, campaign management, publisher data, and revenue optimization are becoming more important.
Sean explains how Flightpath grew out...
Remembering Todd Cochrane, One Year Later
One year ago today, on September 8, 2025, we lost Todd Cochrane.
Todd was my longtime co-host on the New Media Show, a podcast builder from the medium’s earliest days, and one of its strongest advocates for independent creators, open RSS, ownership, and direct connection with audiences.
Looking back on these conversations, what stands out most is how consistently Todd fought for what he believed mattered. He never forgot why podcasting was different in the first place: it removed barriers, gave creators more control, and made it possible to build real communities without asking gatekeepers for pe...
Human Audience Growth in the AI Era | Alex Sanfilippo #685 (Video)
As AI makes it easier to create more content, human relationships may become more valuable, not less.
In Episode #685 of the New Media Show, host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee talks with Alex Sanfilippo, founder of PodMatch and host of Podcasting Made Simple, about why relationships between hosts, guests, audiences, collaborators, and communities are becoming an increasingly important part of podcast growth.
The conversation explores podcast guesting, better host-guest matching, AI-assisted workflows, audio and video podcasting, RSS and HLS, creator-owned communities, and why direct audience relationships matter as large platforms gain more control o...
Own Your Identity: Who Controls Your Voice, and Likeness? | Anne Kavanagh, Royall.ai #684 (Video)
AI can now reproduce a person’s face, voice, movement, and likeness with increasing realism.
The bigger question is becoming: Who gets to control that identity, authorize its use, and potentially get paid when it has commercial value?
In Episode #684 of the New Media Show, Host Rob Greenlee talks with Anne Kavanagh, co-founder of Royall.ai, about building a new permission and licensing layer around human identity.
The conversation is not about stopping or being anti-AI. It is about establishing something that has largely been missing: proof and authorization before use.
You...
Trust, AI and the Future of Podcast Advertising | Mike Kadin, RedCircle #683 (Video)
Podcasting has one advantage that much of digital media struggles to maintain: trust.
In Episode #683 of the New Media Show, Rob Greenlee talks with Mike Kadin, CEO and co-founder of RedCircle. What does that trust mean for podcast advertising as AI, video, HLS, YouTube, Spotify, and changing audience behavior reshape the business?
Long-form shows create a different relationship between creators and audiences than short-form social content. That relationship has always been one of the reasons host-read podcast advertising can work so well.
But what happens when AI can recreate the host’s voice?
...The Human Signal: What Becomes Valuable in AI Creation Era | Jaymi Bauer #682 (Video)
When AI content becomes abundant, what becomes scarce?
In Episode #682 of the New Media Show, Host, Rob Greenlee talks with growth and brand strategist Jaymi Bauer. Jaymi is CEO and co-founder of Vaquera Group, creator of Resonance Design, and founder of a new women’s vitality venture called Reign.Care.
She and Rob previously worked together at Microsoft during the Zune and Xbox eras, giving both a long view of how technology continually reshapes media and human behavior.
The conversation is not anti-AI. It is about understanding where AI is powerful and where hu...
How Podcast Distribution Is Changing | Alban Brooke, Buzzsprout #681 (Video)
In Episode 681 of the New Media Show, host Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Alban Brooke, Head of Marketing at Buzzsprout, for a deep conversation about one of the biggest structural changes in podcasting: the evolution of podcast hosting from audio-file distribution to a broader audio-and-video creator infrastructure.
For most of podcasting’s history, the hosting model was relatively straightforward. A creator uploaded an audio file, the host generated an RSS feed, and that feed distributed the episode to listening apps worldwide.
That podcast hosting model is changing.
Video is once again be...
Liquid Content Era Needs New Measurement | Steven Goldstein, Amplifi Media #680 (Video)
In Episode 680 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee welcomes Steven Goldstein, founder and CEO of Amplifi Media, for a timely, future-leaning discussion.
We have entered the Liquid Content Era.
A podcast conversation can now become an audio episode, full-length YouTube video, Spotify video, Apple Podcasts video, vertical clips, social posts, articles, newsletters, searchable transcripts, and potentially AI-discovered answers. The underlying content may be the same, but the way people encounter and consume it varies by platform.
That creates an enormous opportunity for creators. It also creates a measurement problem.
...
IRL Experiences Build Trust and Authority | Samara Beth Hurley #679 (Video)
In Episode 679 of the New Media Show, host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Samara Beth Hurley, founder and CEO of Samara Beth & Co., for a wide-ranging conversation about experiential branding, audience trust, personal authority, storytelling, live events, artificial intelligence, and the growing value of real human relationships.
Creators have more ways than ever to attract attention through podcasts, video, social media, newsletters, events, books, speaking, search, and AI-powered discovery.
But attention is only the beginning.
The deeper challenge is turning attention into trust, trust into authority, and authority into relationships...
Blubrry’s Next Chapter | Barry Kantz, CEO/CFO #678 (Video)
In Episode 678 of the New Media Show, host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Barry Kantz, CEO and CFO of Blubrry Podcasting, for a candid conversation about Blubrry’s leadership transition, the legacy of (RIP) former CEO Todd Cochrane, independent podcasting, video, artificial intelligence, monetization, measurement, human support, and the changing podcast-hosting market.
For more than 20 years, Blubrry and its parent company, RawVoice, have helped build and support the open podcast ecosystem. The sudden passing of Blubrry founder and longtime New Media Show co-host Todd Cochrane forced the company, its team, and Todd’s family to n...
Creators Become Media | Steve Wilson, Daylight Media and QCODE #676 (Video)
In Episode #676 of the New Media Show, host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Steve Wilson, Chief Strategy Officer at Daylight Media and QCODE, for a wide-ranging conversation about the shift from producing a successful podcast to building a sustainable creator-led media company.
Creators no longer operate in a simple world of publishing one show to ONE place and relying mainly on advertising.
The strongest creators are building direct relationships with audiences across podcasts, video, short-form clips, newsletters, communities, subscriptions, live events, products, and services.
Podcasting remains one of the most...
Why Podcast and Creator Awards Matter | Cameron Stack, Recognized.fm #675 (Video)
In Episode 675 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee welcomes Cameron Stack, founder and curator of Recognized.fm, for a conversation about podcast awards, creator credibility, industry recognition, and the growing business behind awards, nominations, platform distinctions, editorial selections, and career honors.
Podcast awards can be easy to dismiss as another trophy or promotional exercise. Credible recognition can have a much larger impact on a creator, a show, a network, or a media company.
An award nomination or win can strengthen a media kit, support sponsor conversations, attract better guests, generate press coverage, and...
Video-First Podcasting Has Arrived | Rox Codes, Flightcast #674 (Video)
In Episode 674 of the New Media Show, Podcast Hall of Fame Host Rob Greenlee welcomes Rox Codes, CEO and co-founder of Flightcast.com.
For a deep conversation about video-first podcasting, YouTube growth, AI-powered analytics, creator tools, and where podcast publishing is heading next.
Rox Codes has spent years building tools for creators, including YouTube optimization, thumbnail and title creation, A/B testing, and creator growth systems.
Flightcast was co-founded with Steven Bartlett of The Diary of a CEO. Rox is building a platform centered on a core shift in the market: serious shows a...
Podcasting Beyond the Download | Casey Adams, Listener.com #673 (Video)
In Episode 673 of the New Media Show, host 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Casey Adams, founder and CEO of Listener.com and host of The Casey Adams Show, for a timely conversation about how podcasting, video, social content, advertising, and new media measurement are rapidly converging.
For more than 20 years, podcasting has relied heavily on RSS feeds, downloads, and audio-first measurement as the foundation of distribution and advertising value. That still matters, but the media environment around it has changed dramatically.
Shows now are distributed across Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, social video, newsletters...
The Future of Media | Leo Laporte, TWiT.tv #672 (Video)
In Episode 672 of the New Media Show, host 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Leo Laporte, founder and owner of the TWiT Podcast Network, longtime technology broadcaster, and 2015 Podcast Hall of Famer.
He launched TWiT in 2005 and built one of the earliest independent technology media networks around a simple idea: make strong shows, distribute them everywhere the audience wants to watch or listen, and build a real relationship with the people who return every week.
Leo has spent decades at the center of the shift from broadcast radio and cable television into online shows, p...
Can Creator Economy Build a Better Podcasting? | Sam Sethi, TrueFans #671 (Video)
In this episode of The New Media Show, host 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee welcomes Sam Sethi, founder of TrueFans and co-host of the Podnews Weekly Review.
They had a wide-ranging conversation about the future of podcasting inside the larger creator economy.
Podcasting helped create the independent creator movement through RSS, niche audiences, direct publishing, and long-form content that builds audience trust.
Today’s creators are building broader businesses around video, memberships, newsletters, live events, merchandise, premium content, clips, community, and direct fan relationships.
So, can the creator economy help bu...
What Should Creators Disclose When Using AI? | Alberto Betella, RSS.com #670 (Video)
Should every use of AI in a podcast, video, or creator workflow be disclosed?
A better question is whether AI created the actual substance of what the audience came to hear or watch.
On Episode 670 of the New Media Show, Rob Greenlee is joined by Alberto Betella, co-founder of RSS.com and creator of “Should I Disclose AI?“
Is a timely conversation about AI transparency, synthetic media, voice cloning, human trust, and the future of creator-led media.
AI is now helping creators edit video, create captions, translate episodes, generate clips, improve workf...
Can Human Creators Still Win in an AI-Flooded Media World? | Rob Walch #669 (Video)
In episode 669 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee talks with Rob Walch, VP of Podcaster Relations at Captivate and DAX.
Podcast Hall of Famers Rob Walch and Rob Greenlee discuss one of the biggest pressure points facing creators today: Can human creators grow, monetize, and maintain audience trust as platforms fill with AI-generated podcasts, synthetic video, cloned voices, and automated content channels?
I apologize for the rough audio in this episode. The audio was choppy in the virtual recording, and I did the best I could to improve it.
The conversation...
Is New Media Replacing the Creator Economy? | Ollie Forsyth #668 (Video)
In episode 668 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee talks with Ollie Forsyth, founder of New Economies and New-Media.co, about the fast-changing meaning of “New Media” and why creator-led media is becoming one of the most important shifts in digital publishing, podcasting, video, newsletters, live streaming, and AI-powered content.
The conversation begins with a bigger question: what does “New Media” mean now?
For years, the term New Media has described digital media outside traditional broadcast, print, and cable. But in 2026, the meaning is changing again. New Media is becoming less about a format and more...
Are Podcast Networks becoming Creator Networks? | Greg Wasserman #666 (Video)
In episode 666 of the New Media Show, hosted by 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee, Rob talks with Greg Wasserman, Head of Relationships at RSS.com and host of Podcast Network Insights, for a deep conversation about one of the biggest questions facing podcasting, video, creator media, and digital networks right now:
Podcast networks were originally built for an audio-first industry, but audiences have already moved the definition of a podcast beyond audio. Today, a podcast can be a YouTube show, a Spotify video, an Apple video podcast, a livestream, a short clip, a newsletter, a community...
What Is New Media Now vs Podcasting? | Ashley Christenson #665 (Video)
In episode 665 of the New Media Show, hosted by 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee, Rob talks with Ashley Christenson, also known as
Can Human Critics Improve Podcast Discovery? | Imran Ahmed, Great Pods #662 (Video)
In episode 662 from May 6th, 2026, of the New Media Show, hosted by 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee, he talks with Imran Ahmed, founder of Great Pods, for a deep conversation about one of podcasting’s longest-running controversies: Discovery.
Podcasting has never had a shortage of content. The bigger challenge has always been helping listeners find the right shows and helping quality creators get noticed.
Charts often reward scale. Algorithms can miss the human context. Social media attention does not always create trust. But human recommendations, professional reviews, and transparency. editorial signals may still play an im...Can Indie Podcasters and Creators Still Win? | Dave Jackson #661 (Video)
On Episode 661 of The New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee, 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame, and longtime new media executive, is joined by Dave Jackson, 2018 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, founder of School of Podcasting, and Head of Podcasting at Podpage.com, for a deep conversation about whether independent podcasters and media creators can still win in today’s rapidly changing creator economy.
This episode centers on a question many creators are quietly asking right now:
...
Libsyn’s Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660 (Video)
“Podcast episode hosting used to be simple. You uploaded an audio file, generated an RSS feed, and distributed your show everywhere. That model still matters, but it is no longer enough for the modern creator economy.”
In this Episode 660 of The Live New Media Show, from April 22nd, 2026, Host Podcast Hall of Famer and Former Libsyn VP Rob Greenlee shares a screen and microphone with Brendan Monaghan, President and CEO of Libsyn, to explore how podcast hosting is changing and what creators should expect from platforms in 2026 and beyond.
This conversation gets to the heart of a...
Podcasting’s Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659 (Video)
Podcasting is entering a new phase, and this episode goes straight into the infrastructure, business models, and platform shifts shaping what comes next.
On episode 659 of The New Media Show, Host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee shares the microphone with Sharon Taylor, Chief Revenue Officer at Triton Digital (Spreaker & Omny Studio), for a deep conversation about where the podcasting market is heading right now.
Sharon brings years of experience from Omny Studio, Triton Digital, and Spreaker, making her one of the best people to help unpack what is changing across hosting, monetization, video...
Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658 (Video)
If you are trying to understand where podcasting may still have real, untapped opportunities in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that point to an important answer: Local.
On Episode 658 of The New Media Show, Host Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee shares a microphone and a video camera with guest David Plotz, founder and CEO of CityCast.fm and co-host of the Political Gabfest podcast from Slate, to:
Explore what local podcasts can become in a media environment increasingly shaped by video, platforms, social discovery, and changing audience habits. The conversation starts...
Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657 (Video)
If you are trying to understand where podcasting is going in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that clarifies th
Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? | Jay Nachlis #656 (Video)
In episode 656 of the New Media Show, Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee is joined
Podcast Growth and Discovery in 2026 | Arielle Nissenblatt #655 (Video)
Podcast discovery feels harder in 2026, not because creators stopped trying, but because attention is now split across podcast apps, YouTube, short-form video feeds, newsletters, and search-driven recommendations.
On this recorded episode of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee shares the screen and a microphone with Arielle Nissenblatt, 2026 Podcast Hall of Famer and Founder of EarBuds Podcast Collective and Head of Community and Content at Pinwheel by Audily, to break down what is actually changing right now and what creators can still do that consistently grows audience and trust.
“Arielle brings a listener-first, creator-first perspective tha...
Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654 (Video)
As AI becomes more embedded into content creation, discovery, and distribution, one truth is becoming clearer: the long-term winners in media may not be the fastest or the most automated. They may be the most human.
That was the core idea behind this conversation with Erin Diehl of Improve It! and the host of the Workday Playdate Podcast, and New Media Show host and Podcast Hall of Fame Inductee Rob Greenlee on New Media Show Episode 654, where we explored what it really means to build a media business rooted in trust, emotional connection, authenticity, and memorable audience...
Can Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652 (Video)
New Media Show #652 with Rob Greenlee and Lauren Shippen
On Episode 652 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee shares a screen with Lauren Shippen, Creative Director at Atypical Artists, to tackle a growing tension in creator media around audio fiction, which is thriving as a storytelling format but is being pressure-tested by the industry’s video-first discovery push.
Fiction podcasts did not stop working. What changed is how platforms signal value, how audiences discover new shows, and how creators feel forced to look video-ready to compete.
The real question for fiction creators in 2026 is no...