WhyWork Podcast

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By: Alan Girle, Trajce Cvetkovski, & Sara Pazell

The WhyWork Podcast is an organisational strategy session and legal dissection of workplace events that are laced with humour. Your bloggers, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, explore the contemporary and uncomfortable realities of work and the boundaries that are tested. Alan and Trajce dismantle case law and Sara pushes all to consider how to redesign the world of work so that business objectives are realised and that people thrive. Good stories are told. The WhyWork team throws shade on some of the stories and the people involved as they consider defensible and remarkable work design strategy. When you listen to the...

S10: Special-Release Bonus: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate? Part 1
02/23/2026

S10: Special-Release Bonus: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate? Part 1

WARNING: This episode discusses the difficult journey of organ donation, which may confront some listeners – we urge listener discretion before tuning in to this special three-part series.

In this deeply personal and provocative three-part special, Sara, Trajce, and Alan traverse beyond the usual boundaries of work dynamics leading to work health and safety case law. They enter the territory in which values, courage, relationships, healthcare institutions, and government frameworks intersect in messy fashion.

This series invites listeners to reflect:

What do...


S10: Bonus Trailer 03: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate?
02/16/2026

S10: Bonus Trailer 03: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate?

Payback conversations - a foreign, special guest: CJ Harding - kidney donor receipt - with discussions on reframing an experience of sacrifice to shared humanity. The crew explore what it really means to care at work in friendship and in life when the stakes are life & death.


S10: Bonus Trailer 02: How Far Would You Go for a Workmate?
02/09/2026

S10: Bonus Trailer 02: How Far Would You Go for a Workmate?

Testing institutions and confronting friends through extraordinary life choices. Prepare for a special bonus-release series on live organ donation for a workmate.


S10: Bonus Trailer 01: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate?
02/02/2026

S10: Bonus Trailer 01: How Far Would You Go For a Workmate?

A special three-part, provocative bonus series releasing soon.


S09 E12: “Puppy-Gate” and Stripping as a Side-Hussle
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01/26/2026

Season 09 Episode 12: “Puppy-Gate” and Stripping as a Side-Hussle

WARNING: This episode includes discussion on stripping as a trade – we advise listener discretion

Alan reflects on the South Australian work-from-home ‘puppy-gate’ test of law when a local government worker claimed worker’s compensation for an injury she sustained while working from home. In this instance, she tripped over a puppy fence she’d installed in the home to segregate her puppy from a pet bunny.

Here is the breakdown of the case:

Initial Decision: The Local Government Association Workers Compensation Scheme (LGAWCS) rejected Ms. Vercoe's c...


S09 E11: The Beat Boy Fashion Archetype and Exploitation Tactics of Reality TV
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01/19/2026

S09 E11: The Beat Boy Fashion Archetype and Exploitation Tactics of Reality TV

WARNING: At the end of this episode, we refer to a mass murderer who made his way to a Reality TV show, and this may confront some people – we advise listener discretion.

Trajce’s nurtures his love of reality TV through research about the programming designed to evoke conflict among the show participants. “Some of these reality TV episodes showcase true talent among participants as competitors – like singing, sport, or survival skills,” explains Trajce, “but then there are the anti-talent shows – ‘I’m...


S09 E10: How Much do you C.A.R.E. About Work and Life?
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01/12/2026

Season 09 Episode 10: How Much do you C.A.R.E. About Work and Life?

WARNING: This episode refers to sexual escapades that may offend some people – we advise listener discretion.

This episode continues the thread from S09 E09: An Assault on Office Decorum, while the crew, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, debate methods to provide supportive workplace environments and develop defences to protect workers from harm.

Sara explains a systems-view on psychosocial risk management, providing workplace defences to subsequent psychological harm to workers (inspired by EMESRT’s 9 Layers of Defence in Vehicle Interactions ) – C.A.R.E...


S09 E09: An Assault on Office Decorum
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01/05/2026

Season 09 Episode 09: An Assault on Office Decorum

WARNING: This episode refers to sexual escapades that may offend some people – we advise listener discretion.

The crew, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, discuss a confronting case, Evan Ashley Solstace v Metley Toleda Ltd [2023] FCA 456, which made headlines: ‘Creepy office work is slammed by judge for filthy acts at work.’ The judge called the situation, “Shambolic!”

“Great word,” reflects Trajce.

Sara explains some of the findings resulting from Alan’s case research, “This worker was found to engage in purposeful lewd workplace behaviours. He would fart in the hallwa...


S09: Bonus Encore S01 E01 on Replay - Bubbles of Trouble
12/29/2025

WARNING: This episode is explicit in nature - we advise listener discretion.

Encore replay from our inaugural WhyWork Podcast episode 01 launch - From S01 E01: Bubbles of Trouble - the perfect discussion for the holiday time.

Season 01 Episode 01 invites listeners to consider what happens when a celebration like a Christmas party or social gathering goes seriously wrong. There can be blurred lines, drinking, nudity, giggles, and the assumptions that everyone in the team wants to party in the same way when that just might not be the case! Listen to what happens when your work...


S09 E08: Sankalpa - The Power of Intention and Gratitude
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12/22/2025

Season 09 Episode 08: Sankalpa - The Power of Intention and Gratitude

WARNING: This episode refers to victim impact statements after tragic circumstances – we advise listener discretion.

The podcast team are elated that the Magpie referenced in the S09 E07: Trading Up - Work in the Sex Trade recording was successfully freed to the wild. Sara admonished, “I don’t know what Trajce was doing – I think he was trying to negotiate with the Maggie to usher in its surrender.” However, the escapade allowed the team a break from the serious stuff and see the comical si...


S09 E07: Trading Up – Work in the Sex Trade
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12/15/2025

Season 09 Episode 07: Trading Up – Work in the Sex Trade

WARNING: This episode refers to adult entertainment work domains – we advise listener discretion.

Alan explores workplace claims involving an adult entertainment specialist, debating work arrangements and business entitlements. In doing so, he reveals some of the traits of a business contracting ‘done right.’ Work is work and the sex trade represents a legitimate industry and workplace with regular entitlements, says Trajce. Sara commends Alan, “I’m so glad you thought to discuss successes,” as she reflects on studying success and the value of simplicity as much as, if not mor...


S09 E06: Skylarking yet Held to a Higher Standard
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12/09/2025

Season 09 Episode 06: Skylarking yet Held to a Higher Standard

WARNING: This episode refers to workplace bullying and harassment - we advise listener discretion.

This episode explores the job duties that prevail even after you’ve clocked off – at least, in view of public expectation. The crew debate: Does your job outlive its tenure and should you be judged by it in your personal life?

“Never have I ever!” exclaims Trajce, while Alan shares tales of some ‘nudie nut’ coppers and party time frivolity. He adds to these stories with a story about a member of th...


S09 E05: It is All Too Human: Why Prosecute?
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12/01/2025

Season 09 Episode 05: It is All Too Human: Why Prosecute?

WARNING: This episode includes discussion on a serious workplace injury - we advise listener discretion.

Degloved and prosecuted - Why pursue an employee whose judgment lapsed, and they are already in a world of pain from a gruesome workplace injury? The team are flummoxed by the idea of governmental prosecutions of individuals versus organisations, given their beliefs that workplace incidents reflect systemic imbalances and erosion factors.

The podcasters, Alan, Trajce, and Sara review a case of a workers who was degloved by a meat...


S09 E04: The Moral Compass of the Law
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11/24/2025

Season 09 Episode 04: The Moral Compass of the Law

“The idea of a moral compass of the law assumes that we care about caring,” Sara provokes. “We cannot escape the moral compass of the law,” Trajce warns. Alan agrees, “Good laws reflect good moral judgment.”

The podcasters explore contemporary, newsworthy topics related to moral injury. Sara describes moral injury, an occupational psychosocial hazard, as a cross-cutting hazard – one that crosscuts acute and cumulative exposure pathways. Listen to more on this to understand ethical challenges to one’s sense of integrity. The WhyWork Podcast crew, Alan, Trajce, and Sara explore...


S09 E03: “Top o’ the morning to ya!”
11/17/2025

Season 09 Episode 03: "Top o' the morning to ya!"

The WhyWork Podcast team marvel at a case when a seemingly simple salutation triggers a workplace dismissal. “Was it fair?’ Trajce begs the question. Alan asks about material misconduct and whether a belief related to the cause of an offence is reasonable justification for dismissal.

This is a provocative episode, prompting deep thought on when play becomes concerning, and justifiable misconduct. Alan and Sara revel in the debate on sentiment, intention, and the impacts at work when you but your foot in your mouth. “Yes, like what about...


S09 E02: Spyware – Yah, baby! It’s all the rage
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11/10/2025

Season 09 Episode 02: Spyware - Yah, baby! It’s all the rage

The team debate a question in workplace dismissals: “Was the sacking harsh, unjust, or unreasonable?”

Alan presents the new way of working as an inspector – using body-worn cameras in investigations. He argues, “If you are capturing someone’s personal information, a video of them, a voice recording, and their interactions, the person should receive a copy of what has been captured.” Trajce and Sara weigh in on the debate, with workplace trends rampant in the use of spyware software, tracking keystrokes, and meeting attendance. Sara reminds t...


S09 E01: Canoodlin’ on Camera – Why it matters in the workplace
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11/03/2025

Season 09 Episode 01 of the WhyWork Podcast begins with sensational media gossip that leads the team, Alan, Sara, and Trajce (aka “Ziggy,” the pop music master), down a pathway of discussion on the bounds of workplace dismissal. Yes, the Coldplay incident. Trajce asks about reasonable workplace treatment when the scope of query encroaches upon one’s personal life. They discuss what happens when a worker is caught “pashing off” with someone unexpected and the taboos around workplace relationships. Trajce uses another example - when an employee refuses to take an alcohol breath test to demonstrate fitness for work.

The podcas...


S09 Trailer 06: Refugees
11/02/2025

Season 09 Trailer 06: Refugees

Trajce advance's a refugees claim of years of bullying, micromanagment, and discrimination. The team, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, wrangle with the 'ColdPlay'd-gate' escapades and the symbolic implications of workplace power relations.

Tune in to the release of Season 09 for a focus on workplace terminations for all manner of challenging reasons - coming soon!


S09 Trailer 05: Autopilot mode
11/02/2025

Season 09 Trailer 05: Autopilot mode

"How many times have you done something silly but you've been in autopilot mode?" reflects Sara when considering human factors and relatable fallabilities. Humans also innovate and improve work systems. Season 09 is coming soon, talking about more whacky case law, relatable faux-pas, and dissection of human behaviour. Stay tuned for more coming your way.


S09 Trailer 04: PRAiSE - The best psychosocial risk instrument on the planet
10/30/2025

Season 09 Trailer 04: PRAiSE - Psychosocial Risk Assessment and Integrated Solutions for Employers. The team reflect on "The best psychosocial instrument on the planet," as Trajce aludes, while Alan struggles with prosecutions of employees in Work Health Safety Legislation.


S09 Trailer 03: Nothing but dismissals - can't we all just get along?
10/30/2025

Season 09 Trailer 03: Nothing but dismissals - can't we all just get along?

Season 09 takes listeners down a workplace dismissal path. Alan, Trajce, and Sara explore workplace conflicts and government prosecutions in work health and safety law. Alan struggles... listen in for more on this with Season 09 releases - coming soon!


S09 Trailer 02: Bring it on - The kaleidoscope of workplace mishaps
10/29/2025

Season 09 Trailer 02: Bring it on - The kaleidoscope of workplace mishaps. Get ready for more humour and confronting tales - Season 09, coming soon.


S09 Trailer 01: Back in black - we're back... soon!
10/28/2025

Season 09 Trailer 01: Back in black - we're back... soon!

Back in black - we're coming back soon for Season 09. Great ready for more quips about contemporary events and controversial stories, laced with insights from diverse perspectives. We explore business strategy, work design, human factors, and work health safety case law. The more things change, the more things stay the same...!


S09 Trailer 06: Refugees
10/26/2025

Season 09 Trailer 06: Refugees

Trajce advance's a refugees claim of years of bullying, micromanagment, and discrimination. The team, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, wrangle with the 'ColdPlay'd-gate' escapades and the symbolic implications of workplace power relations.

Tune in to the release of Season 09 for a focus on workplace terminations for all manner of challenging reasons - coming soon!


S09 Trailer 05: Autopilot mode
10/21/2025

Season 09 Trailer 05: Autopilot mode

"How many times have you done something silly but you've been in autopilot mode?" reflects Sara when considering human factors and relatable fallabilities. Humans also innovate and improve work systems. Season 09 is coming soon, talking about more whacky case law, relatable faux-pas, and dissection of human behaviour. Stay tuned for more coming your way.


S09 Trailer 04: PRAiSE - The best psychosocial risk instrument on the planet
10/13/2025

Season 09 Trailer 04: PRAiSE - Psychosocial Risk Assessment and Integrated Solutions for Employers. The team reflect on "The best psychosocial instrument on the planet," as Trajce aludes, while Alan struggles with prosecutions of employees in Work Health Safety Legislation.


S09 Trailer 03: Nothing but dismissals - can't we all just get along?
10/09/2025

Season 09 Trailer 03: Nothing but dismissals - can't we all just get along?

Season 09 takes listeners down a workplace dismissal path. Alan, Trajce, and Sara explore workplace conflicts and government prosecutions in work health and safety law. Alan struggles... listen in for more on this with Season 09 releases - coming soon!


S09 Trailer 02: Bring it on - The kaleidoscope of workplace mishaps
10/07/2025

S09 Trailer 02: Bring it on - The kaleidoscope of workplace mishaps. Get ready for more humour and confronting tales - Season 09, coming soon.


So9 Trailer 01: Back in black - we're back... soon!
09/29/2025

Back in black - we're coming back soon for Season 09. Great ready for more quips about contemporary events and controversial stories, laced with insights from diverse perspectives. We explore business strategy, work design, human factors, and work health safety case law. The more things change, the more things stay the same...!


S08 E13: Re-release Episode: Kozorov and the Need for Purpose
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09/23/2025

Season 08 Episode 13: Re-release Episode: Kozorov and the Need for Purpose

WARNING: This episode refers to traumas involving children - we advise listener discretion.

We re-release S01 E13 in the wake of growing concerns about psychosocial risk management in the workplace. This case is about vicarious trauma - the long-term psychological distress that can arise among workers arising from secondary exposures to traumatic events. In this case, it s about a lawyer who encounters real-world accounts of horrific circumstances - such as suicide and child pornography.

Exposure to secondary trauma is a reality of...


S08 E12: Jumping Castles Part Two
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09/15/2025

Season 08 Episode 12: Jumping Castles Part Two

WARNING: This episode includes discussion about fatal events impacting children and families – we advise listener discretion.

The WhyWork Podcast Team, Alan, Trajce, and Sara, discuss the complexities of a prosecutorial strategy when fatal events occur at a school: children who die as a result of a windstorm and out-of-control, airborne jumping castle. Those involved in the work design include a jumping castle supplier, the workplace host, a school, and an overseas manufacturer.

Alan shares his grief in retelling this tale and pays his respect to the families an...


S08 E11: Toolbox Talk: Acknowledgement of Country
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09/08/2025

Season 08 Episode 11: Toolbox Talk: Acknowledgement of Country

WARNING: This episode addresses cultural sensitivity issues in the workplace – we advise listener discretion.

Trajce challenges his podcast team, Alan, and Sara, with a claim about cultural sensitivities. He shares a tale about a street sweeper’s unfair dismissal by a local government city council after he raised his concerns about the Acknowledgement of Country before a toolbox session. To add probative value to the engineering of this dismissal, Trajce explains, the employer complained about the worker's failure to attend cultural sensitivity training. “The problem?” Trajce asks, “the employee w...


S08 E10: Darth Vader and the handshake of death
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09/01/2025

Season 08 Episode 10: Darth Vader and the handshake of death

Alan, Trajce, and Sara start this episode in discussion about the social etiquette of handshakes. Alan advocates for the politeness of the handshake in business negotiations, and Trajce explains his handshake aversions, and the origins of a handshake.

In this reverie, Trajce reflects on his support band, warming up big names in the 1980’s, like The Village People and Kim Wilde. Sara shares details bout her fun night out listening to Tyne James Organ and Jacob Fitzgerald & the Electric City live at a local venue.

...


S08 Bonus: WhyNOT? A Wisdom Shot: Creating Joyful Paths
08/27/2025

Season 08 Bonus: WhyNOT? A Wisdom Shot: Creating joyful paths

This wisdom shot challenges workplaces to think about creating joyful paths in their workplace, versus hoping someone falls into a path of joy. It's about using service design combined with human factors approaches to construct manageable and meaningful work while managing psychosocial risks.


S08 E09: Psychosocial Hazard Salad
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08/25/2025

Season 08 Episode 09: Psychosocial Hazard Salad

In this episode, the team discusses the challenges in the contemporary workplace of managing the complexity of psychosocial risks that can cause mental health disorders among workers – disorders like anxiety, stress, low mood, and depression. Sara laments the literature and assessment approaches that reveal the “What?” without explaining the “SO What?” and “NOW What?” Alan loves that level of thinking, acknowledging that without this level of guidance, businesses can spin their wheels, directionless. Sara explains a research paper on necessary condition analysis describing four factors that, in their absence, preclude a diagnosis of depression...


S08 E08: Levellin’ Up: Health Screening vs Human Rights
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08/18/2025

Season 08 Episode 08: Levellin’ Up: Health Screening vs Human Rights

“It is my human right to grab a meat pie from the local pie cart,” Trajce defends his actions. “Everyone is stressed, so what is your stress level?” enquires Alan, in his effort to empathise and disarm a respondent. “What’s your level, not your age, but your level?” asks Sara, “We’re levelling up – that’s empowering!”

This episode extends discussion on the events surrounding S08 E02: Christmas Day Code Blue. In this episode, the WhyWork crew dig into the uncomfortable truth that many wellness initiatives are a shiny di...


S08 E07: Danger, Design, and Digital Realities
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08/11/2025

Season 08 Episode 07: Danger, Design, and Digital Realities

WARNING: This episode discusses injuries caused by recreational fixed plan – we advise listener discretion.

“How do you design better work when the risks are invisible, intangible, or hard to map?" asks Trajce. In this forward-thinking episode, the WhyWork crew explores how Shared Virtual Presence (SVP) is transforming the way organisations approach risk, work design, and collaboration.

Trajce shares his perspective on the value of SVP in creating shared language and visible systems thinking, and Alan digs into how digitised assessments are finally bringing mental health into main...


S08 E06: Rootin’ Tootin’ Wild Theme Park Rides: When Fun turns Fatal
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08/04/2025

Season 08 Episode 06: Rootin’ Tootin’ Wild Theme Park Rides: When Fun turns Fatal

WARNING: This episode discusses a serious injury to a child – we advise listener discretion.

“Theme parks are workplaces where serious harm could eventuate,” bemoans Trajce.

In this gripping episode, the WhyWork crew dive into the devastating case of a child who suffered a traumatic scalping injury while on a Wile E. Coyote-themed amusement ride

Alan walks us through the case, unpacking the sequence of mechanical and human errors. Trajce brings his classic bluntness and empathy, highlighting how poor design choices...


S08 E05: Is it a crime? The syrupy sweetness of criminal recovery, comebacks, and swearing in the workplace
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07/28/2025

Season 08 Episode 05: Is it a crime? The syrupy sweetness of criminal recovery, comebacks, and swearing in the workplace

WARNING: This episode discusses human rights breaches - we advise listener discretion.

Does a criminal record mean a life sentence of unemployment? This episode dives into how past convictions keep people locked out of work. Alan reflects, “Inclusive hiring isn’t charity. It’s good business sense. We should not define skills and character by a past conviction.” Alan recounts a case of a government employee hampered by a past criminal investigation. Listen in to learn about the resu...


S08 E04: Nipple Tweaks & Bottom Taps: The border between play and predatory assault
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07/22/2025

Season 08 Episode 04: Nipple Tweaks & Bottom Taps: The border between play and predatory assault

WARNING: This episode includes discussion on sexual harassment - we advise listener discretion.

Ever wondered when ‘just joking’ becomes sexual harassment? In this eye-opening episode, we unpack real stories of workplace encounters that cross the line—like unwanted bottom taps or nipple tweaks (Are these ever really okay?!) . Alan, Trajce, and Sara discuss why dismissing these actions as both banter and play lets disrespect thrive. Sara says, “We need to normalise calling out these moments, not laugh them off.” Trajce adds, “People think it’s h...