That Was Pretty Scary
That Was Pretty Scary is a horror podcast hosted by Jon Lee Brody. From reviews and recaps of classic and contemporary horror to deep dive analysis and conversations with creators, JLB explores why scary movies stick with us and why they matter. NOTE TO LISTENERS: When That Was Pretty Scary first launched in 2023, it began as a joint venture between Jon Lee Brody and Freddie Prinze Jr. In 2025, after 102 episodes together, Freddie departed the show and JLB continued on as the solo host. New listeners can enjoy the full archive of early episodes and then seamlessly transition into the current...
TWPS Scary Talk with MICHAEL HARRIOT (Author of 'Black AF History')
In honor of the last day of Black History Month, TWPS presents this conversation between JLB and best selling author & historian Michael Harriot (author of 'Black AF History'). JLB and Michael talk about the history of Blaxploitation Horror and Black History in regards to cinema.
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Blaxploitation Horror Part IV | Don't Know Much About Horror History
In the conclusion of the Blaxploitation miniseries, we take a look at modern Black horror movies and trace them back to the lineage of Blaxploitation.
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The Gorge (2025)
The Gorge was one of the best films of 2025. So why aren't more people talking about it? JLB breaks it all down!
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Blaxploitation Horror Part III | Don't Know Much About Horror History
In Part III of the Blaxploitation miniseries we look at films like Blacula, Ganja & Hess and Sugar Hill; and explore the messages they were sending.
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Death Name (2026) with writer REGINA KIM
DEATH NAME is a Korean American horror movie that released on Tubi recently. JLB sits down with the writer Regina Kim to talk about the script writing process and the importance of Korean American representation in horror.
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DEATH NAME is AVAILABLE NOW on Tubi!
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Valentine (2001)
Happy Valentine's Day, Scaries! JLB loves yall so much that he just had to do a special Valentine's Day episode covering the 2001 gem 'Valentine' and celebrate its 25th Anniversary.
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Blaxploitation Horror Part II | Don't Know Much About Horror History
In Part II of the Blaxploitation Horror mini series we talk about where the name Blaxploitation came from and what implications came with it.
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WARM BODIES with Relationship Expert SABRINA ZOHAR
JLB is joined by relationship expert Sabrina Zohar to analyze the love story in the beloved 2013 horror rom-com 'Warm Bodies'!
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Blaxploitation Horror - Part I | Don't Know Much About Horror History
In honor of Black History Month, this is the first of the 4 part miniseries (of minisodes) on Blaxploitation Horror. Before the Blaxploitation era took shape in the 1970s, the groundwork was already being laid out for years.
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Cannibal Mukbang with Writer/Director AIMEE KUGE
Cannibal Mukbang is everything you hope it'll be and one of the best movies of 2025 you may have missed. JLB talks with the writer/director/producer of the film, AIMEE KUGE, about the film and all things horror!
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Welcome to the NEW That Was Pretty Scary!
Welcome to the new era of That Was Pretty Scary! The name is the same and so is the deep love for horror; but this marks a new chapter with a new vibe, a new look and an expanded TWPS universe. Now is the time, more than ever, to stay scary!
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Happy Birthday To Me (1981)
It's JLB's Birthday Week! And he's celebrating his 42nd rotation around the sun by revisiting this 1981 cult slasher classic!
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Frankenstein (2025)
JLB breaks down Guillermo Del Toro's Frankenstein and all of the lore and misunderstandings surrounding it!
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TWPS Scary Talk with BEN LEONBERG (Director & Writer of GOOD BOY)
JLB sits down with Ben Leonberg, the visionary behind the groundbreaking film "Good Boy" and we're even treated with a special appearance from the film's star himself: Indy the Dog!
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2025 Horror Year in Review
A look back at all the horror goodness of 2025. Happy New Year, scaries! See you in 2026!
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TWPS Scary Talk - Christmas Horror Edition with Steven C. Miller (Silent Night)
Writer/Director Steven C. Miller (Silent Night, Werewolves, Under Fire) joins TWPS this week to talk Christmas horror!
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TWPS Investigates: The Origins of Christmas Horror
Christmas Horror movies are a must during the holiday season but what's its origin story? The truth is, the two are more alike than you'd think and the essence of Christmas horror has been around us all along!
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Weapons
Zach Cregger's "Weapons" was one of the biggest movies of 2025 and is currently making an award season run. But what was it about this movie that got to audiences? JLB breaks it all down!
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TWPS Deep Dive: The Life of Chuck Pt. 2
JLB concludes his deep dive of "The Life of Chuck," by exploring how the themes of disconnection, simulation theory, 'main character energy' and the human condition make this film the cosmic horror it is. JLB also shares a brief discussion he had with Mike Flanagan himself on whether the movie qualifies as horror.
And make sure to listen til the very end! This weeks epilogue is one of the best yet!
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Encore Presentation: Revisiting Happy Death Day w/ Christopher Landon and Jessica Rothe
Enjoy this encore presentation of our episode. Join Jon Lee Brody as he takes a deep dive into the 'Happy Death Day' movies with special guests director Christopher Landon and star Jessica Rothe. In this exciting episode of 'That Was Pretty Scary,' they revisit both 'Happy Death Day' and 'Happy Death Day 2U,' sharing behind-the-scenes stories, exploring the emotional layers of the films, and discussing the potential for a third installment. Rothe and Landon open up about their creative processes, the film's deeper themes, and their genuine friendship. Don't miss out on this engaging conversation that combines h...
TWPS Deep Dive: The Life of Chuck Pt. 1
In the first of a two part deep dive of 'The Life of Chuck", JLB explores how director Mike Flanagan adapted Stephen King's novella into a cinematic journey that makes you think, gets you all up in the feels and blazes a new trail for horror.
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Is Return To Oz a Horror Film?
Wheelers and electroshock therapy and a headless princess. Oh my! "Return to Oz" is the origin of many peoples' childhood trauma. But is it a horror movie? Today's episode explores this very question!
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TWPS Scary Talk with RACHEL BELOFSKY (Founder of Screamfest)
Join Jon Lee Brody in a captivating conversation with Rachel Belofsky, the visionary founder of ScreamFest, as they delve into the evolution of horror films and the unsung heroes behind the scenes. Discover how ScreamFest has become a pivotal platform for emerging filmmakers, celebrating its 25th anniversary with a legacy of innovation and passion. From the challenges of the early days to the triumphs of today, Rachel shares her journey and insights into the horror genre's ever-evolving landscape. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that highlights the power of creativity and the importance of providing opportunities for new voices...
How The Simpsons Changed TV and Horror Forever
35 years ago 'The Simpsons' aired their first Halloween special. Horror & television were never(more) the same thereafter. Jon revisits the brilliance of the anthology formatted special with its nods to classic horror and EC comics DNA pulsing through it. Jon also unwraps how this TV special was such a game changer and how it made horror accessible for primetime television; and also how it has acted like a horror archive that preserves the legacies of the all the classics. The Simpsons is revolutionary in television but doesn't really get it's major kudos for its impact on horror...until now...
TWPS Special: Night of The 'Scaries' Call in Show
Join Jon and Alex in a thrilling bonus episode of 'That Was Pretty Scary' as they dive into listener calls and questions. They explore horror origin stories, delve into horror movie suggestions, and reflect on underrepresented themes in the genre. Listeners like Kim, Camo, Jenna, Shari, and more share their horror experiences and queries, leading to engaging discussions about the scariest films that shaped their fears, the potential of horror miniseries, and the importance of identity in horror storytelling. Jon and Alex also tease future plans for the podcast, including exploring horror TV shows and miniseries. Don’t miss th...
TWPS Listener Pick: Hell House LLC
In this episode of 'That Was Pretty Scary,' Jon dives deep into the unsettling brilliance of 'Hell House LLC.' Released in 2015, this found footage horror has made waves with its hyperrealistic approach, reflecting the enterprise culture and media obsession of its time. Jon dissects the film's craft, likening its relatable scare tactics to real life experiences. With shoutouts to his listeners and fellow horror movie enthusiasts, Jon also shares personal insights on vulnerability, grief, and the psychology of fear. Tune in for a detailed breakdown of this low budget yet highly effective horror gem, and don't miss...
TWPS Listener Pick: The Halloween Tree
October Listener Picks continue on TWPS with the 1993 hidden gem 'The Halloween Tree'. This 1993 made for TV animated film explores friendship, sacrifice, and the true meaning of Halloween. With voice work from Leonard Nimoy and a story penned by Ray Bradbury, this episode offers a nostalgic trip back to the '90s while uncovering deeper themes of mortality and cultural traditions.
00:00 Introduction to a Forgotten Gem
01:23 Listener Picks and Personal Memories
04:29 The Halloween Tree: Basic Info and Background
11:50 Ray Bradbury: The Myth Maker
15:24 The Genesis of The Halloween Tree
TWPS Listener Pick: Monster House
The 'That Was Pretty Scary' October Listener Picks continue with the 2006 animated film 'Monster House'. Explore the unique blend of Pixar-level heart and DreamWorks-level sarcasm that 'Monster House' brought to the screen. Jon discusses how this film dared to be different with its chilling story, innovative performance capture CGI, and surprisingly deep emotional themes of trauma, grief, and letting go. Jon delves into the influence of Spielberg and Zemeckis in the film's production, the movie's place in the horror animation lineage, and its lasting impact. Monster House crawled so the likes of Paranorman and Coraline would truly run!
TWPS Listener Pick: Halloween III: Season of the Witch
TWPS October Listener Picks are underway and being kicked off with the bold and misunderstood 'Halloween III: Season of the Witch.' Jon takes you back to 1982 when audiences were left scratching their heads at the absence of Michael Myers, and explores the cult following that this daring film has since garnered. Dive into the film’s unique take on Halloween lore, its commentary on consumerism, media brainwashing and the fascinating behind-the-scenes stories. Join the discussion on how experimental horror can earn a timeless, albeit delayed, appreciation.
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In this special bonus episode of 'Scary Talk,' Jon Lee Brody sits down with indie horror sensation Sarah Nicklin. With over 100 film credits to her name, Sarah delves into her journey through the horror genre, including her latest role in 'VHS Halloween' now streaming on Shudder. They discuss the evolution of her career, her strict criteria for selecting projects, and the importance of staying true to one's artistic instincts. Sarah also shares the behind-the-scenes scoop on 'Popeye the Slayer Man' and the collaborative spirit of indie filmmaking. Don't miss this deep dive into the life and work of...
Bonus Minisode: "Good Boy" Spoiler Free Review
Jon Lee Brody takes us through a semi spoiler-free review of the independent supernatural horror film 'Good Boy.' Directed by Ben Leonberg and co-written by Leonberg and Alex Cannon, the film stands out by telling a haunted house story from the perspective of a dog named Indy. Hear about the unique production challenges, emotional depth, and the innovative narrative style. Plus, Jon gives a heartfelt shoutout to the film's canine star.
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TWPS "What If?" - John Carpenter's "Halloween IV"
In this captivating episode of That Was Pretty Scary, host Jon Lee Brody dives into a WHAT IF scenario of Halloween 4. Ten years after Michael Myers, evil remains, but in a new, chillingly abstract form. Jon breaks down Carpenter's original plan, examines how it could have altered horror history, and offers a deep analysis of the potential ripple effects on pop culture and the film industry. If you're a fan of Halloween, this episode is a must-listen for discovering what might have been!
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TWPS Investigates: The Fall and Rise of James Wan's Dead Silence
Join Jon Lee Brody as he revisits the 2007 horror film, 'Dead Silence,' directed by James Wan and written by Leigh Whannell. This episode delves into why the film was initially panned by critics and how it has grown to become a cult favorite over the years. Jon breaks down the movie's plot, explores the horror landscape of 2007, and discusses how our perceptions of art can change over time. Plus, stay tuned for an in-depth discussion about anchoring bias and the successor problem. Don't miss the epilogue where Alex and Jon discuss ventriloquist dummies and the possibility of a...
Bonus Minisode: "The Long Walk" Spoiler Free Review
Jon Lee Brody presents a spoiler-free review of 'The Long Walk,' a new thriller directed by Francis Lawrence and based on a novel by Stephen King. Highlighting notable performances from Cooper Hoffman, David Jonsson, Judy Greer, and more, Jon dives into the movie's setup, differences between the book and film, and the intense themes of human endurance and totalitarianism. He praises the diverse cast and unique character portrayals, particularly Ben Wang's role as Hank Olson. Jon concludes with his rating, emphasizing the movie's lasting impact and its thought-provoking nature. Tune in for an engaging take on this haunting...
Bonus Minisode: "HIM" Spoiler Free Review
Jon reviews 'HIM' the latest sports horror film from Universal Pictures and Monkey Paw Productions. He explores how the movie blends football with mythological themes, discusses standout performances—especially Marlon Wayans as Isaiah White—and explains why 'HIM' is more than just a sports movie. Tune in for insights on sacrifice, authenticity, and what makes this film a must-watch for both horror and sports fans.
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TWPS Scary Talk with Justin Tipping (Director/Writer of HIM)
In this enlightening episode of Scary Talk, Jon Lee Brody welcomes the talented filmmaker Justin Tipping. Best known for his work on acclaimed projects like 'Kicks' and 'Dear White People,' Justin dives deep into his journey as an Asian American director. They discuss his early work, including the short film 'Nani,' and his latest project, 'Him,' a sports horror movie. Listen as Justin shares his unique perspective on identity, the pressures of athletic excellence, and the horror genre. This conversation offers a revealing look at how personal experiences shape creative storytelling. Don't miss out!
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TWPS Deep Cut: The Man Who Laughs (1928)
In this episode of 'That Was Pretty Scary,' Jon Lee Brody takes a deep dive into the iconic 1928 silent film, 'The Man Who Laughs'. Jon explores the film's profound impact on popular culture, highlighting its influence on characters like Batman's Joker and the Universal Monsters. Learn about Conrad Veidt's unforgettable performance as Gwynplaine, the tragic origins of the Joker, and the masterful makeup work by Jack Pierce. Jon also delves into the emotional and psychological depths of the film, making connections to modern-day themes of mental health and appearance versus reality. Tune in for a fascinating exploration of...
Bonus Minisode: "The Conjuring: Last Rites" Spoiler Free Review
Join Jon Lee Brody in a special bonus episode for a spoiler-free review of The Conjuring: Last Rites. This episode delves into the tenth and final film of the Conjuring saga, directed by Michael Chaves. Jon discusses the unique character arcs, offers insights into the movie's themes, highlights key moments, and shares personal anecdotes related to the franchise's journey since 2013. Don't miss the heartfelt tribute to the creators, especially his dear friend and mentor James Wan.
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TWPS Deep Dive Sinners Pt. 2
In this episode of That Was Pretty Scary, Jon Lee Brody explores the intricate layers of the movie Sinners directed by Ryan Coogler. Jon delves into complex themes such as cultural erasure, identity, mental health, and the unique portrayal of vampires. He discusses the significance of Bow and Grace as symbols of erased history and the hauntingly beautiful arc of their characters. The conversation also touches on themes of faith, the psychological impact of historical trauma, and the innovative use of aspect ratios in storytelling. Jon also brings back Producer Alexis Cardoza in the epilogue to share his perspectives...
TWPS Deep Dive: Sinners Pt. 1
Join Jon Lee Brody in this deep dive into 'Sinners,' the 2025 film directed by Ryan Coogler. In this first part, Jon explores why this generational film, starring Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, occupies a special space in our minds. He delves into the movie’s supernatural, historical, and cultural themes, emphasizing its unique mix of southern gothic, horror, and drama. John also highlights the significance of music as a powerful, universal language in the film, and discusses its groundbreaking technical achievements. This episode sets the stage for an even more detailed analysis in part two. Stay tuned fo...
