The Tea & Trails Podcast
The Tea & Trails Podcast is a weekly trail running podcast that loves to talk about running, tea and trails. Hosts Edwina & Gary talk about recent ultra races, what's been going on in their lives, coaching and interviewing a variety of runners and race organisers.Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1330576474428708Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/teaandtrailsYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@teaandtrailsReach out if you would like to be involved! - [email protected]
Training Through The Off Season #262
This week, Eddie shares her Wild Heart Runners weekend experience, packed with learning, trail running, and friendships.
Gary heads to Hartlepool parkrun for his first attempt at breaking 20 minutes. Did everything go to plan?
Russell and Gary take over the microphones to tackle a Lap and Lakeland 50 puzzle. Meanwhile, over on Strava, you lot show us exactly how it's done, with plenty of races, adventures, and achievements to celebrate from our club members this week.
Our Fornside Farm Cottage competition continues, and to round off the show, Eddie shares some timely advice on...
From ‘No Signs of Life’ to Bob Graham Round - Tommy Price #261
Back in 2022, Tommy Price and his friend Max were out on a Bob Graham Round recce when Tommy collapsed with a hypothermia induced cardiac arrest. Max’s quick thinking kicked off a life‑saving chain of events, and more than 30 mountain rescue volunteers raced to help. Tommy was airlifted off the fell with a body temperature of just 18°C as emergency teams worked together to bring him back.
Four years later, Tommy has returned to the fells and finish what he started, completing the full 66‑mile Bob Graham Round.
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Moab 240 & The Best Shoes of 2026 #260
Gary eases his little feet off the gas this week as all that recent racing finally catches up with him. Meanwhile, Eddie is fully back in the Spine groove, lots of time spent settling into that steady, stubborn Spine Race pace.
Overseas, we all saw the Moab 240 get cancelled, a sobering reminder of how quickly things can change out on the trails. Thankfully, everyone made it off safely.
To wrap up the show, we chat about our favourite footwear of 2026. It’s a perfect example of how subjective shoe choice can be, both hosts choosing co...
Sophie Raworth #259
Sophie Raworth joins us for a brilliant conversation, journalist, BBC newsreader, author, and a runner with a serious love for the long stuff. Her book Running on Air hit the shelves in 2026, capturing the joy, grit and sheer stubbornness that keeps her lacing up day after day.
We chat about life in the newsroom, the pull of the start line, the stories behind her biggest races, and how running has shaped her world far beyond the miles.
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Your Relationship with Running #258
Both hosts are feeling the load from recent races and training. Eddie finally took her foot off the gas, and Gary trotted off to Kielder for the Kielder Marathon. Surprise, surprise, he’s even more tired now. But to be fair, those Kielder trails did serve up an absolutely sensational day out.
No Tales from the Trails this week… sad times. Please send some in. It’s the best part of the show and such a brilliant way to celebrate what you’ve been up to.
Strava delivered some big miles too, with a few li...
5 & 2 Valleys Double #257
Yes… a little indulgent. Well, maybe very indulgent for Gary to share his 5 & 2 Valleys experience, but he’s doing it anyway. Nearly fifty of the most beautiful miles this country has to offer, taking in epic summits, dreamy trails, and sharing it all with thousands of like minded runners.
The 13 Valleys and the Lake District National Park did not disappoint. It’s a firm favourite of the podcast, and judging by the sheer number of runners, families, and friends who descended on Keswick, it’s clearly a favourite of the trail running community too.
Big love and...
Terrible Mid Race Fuel Choices... #256
Three races. One weekend. Greedy Gary was back at it again, taking on the 5 Valleys Ultra and the 2 Valleys, while Eddie headed to the Ochills Ultra 50. It turned into quite the adventure for her after a full on week of driving up and down the country. Meanwhile, Gary had an absolute blast in the Lakes and somehow came home clutching his four times finisher charm.
An injured runner reached out to the coaches this week, something every one of us has had to face at some point. Over in the Strava Club, it’s a very 7 Valleys he...
Damian Hall - Run Forever #255
Damian Hall joins us for a lovely, meandering chat about all things running, records, tea, and a bit of football thrown in for good measure. You always get good bang for your buck with Damo, and this episode delivers too.
His latest book, Run Forever, hit the shelves earlier this year. It’s a perfect read for runners drifting past 30 and hoping to keep moving for as many decades as possible.
Damian digs into the reasons why our strength and speed might start to fade and why it’s far from inevitable if we actually do s...
The Unwritten Rules of Running #254
Eddie has levelled up her double threshold game and is loving it. Gary, meanwhile, has had a quiet week of training, two days missed, thanks to life getting in the way and his body whispering, “Mate… be kind to your future self.”
This week’s Brew With the Coaches is a good one, especially for our dear listeners who keep getting that annoying mid run stitch. Some cracking tips in there.
You lot continue to entertain and inspire over on Strava, Tales from the Trails, and of course the mighty Heavy Flex corner. We truly have a c...
Lucy Gossage - Pennine Way FKT #253
Lucy Gossage joins us today for an absolute powerhouse of an episode. Fresh off the Pennine Way FKT, she’s just conquered 268 miles of bogs, mountains and truly awful weather, all stitched together with joy, grit, friendship and adventure.
Anna Troup set a seriously stout record, and it took bravery for Lucy to step up and take on the challenge. But take it on she did. She pushed all the way to Edale in 70 hours, 47 minutes and 15 seconds, shaving nearly two hours off the previous mark.
It’s a story of courage, community and what happ...
The Back to Back Long Run #252
Both hosts are well and truly in the groove of training, tackling long runs, hard sessions, parkruns, and hitting the weights too. We also dive into the world of the double-threshold workout day, as Eddie slips a double-day into her week!
We've got a V50 Heavy Flex, plus a remarkable feat of mental and physical endurance over at Tales from the Trails.
Eddie shares some back to back long run wisdom. Gary likes the idea of a double long-run, but he definitely prefers a rest day in between to catch his breath! The coaches also...
Laura Watts - Badwater #251
This week we sit down with Laura Watts, fresh off her brilliant run at the Leeds & Liverpool Canal Race. An awesome victory, made even more impressive considering she’s still not fully recovered from her fifth finish at Badwater.
We absolutely loved this chilled chat with Laura. From bumping into famous passengers during her day job, to training stories, to what it’s actually like running through Death Valley again and again, to the power of CurraNZ as part of her training and racing, it’s all in there.
And of course, Laura rounds things off wi...
2027 Ultra Race Guide #250
Eddie’s been busy heading south this week, supporting Lucy Gossage as she storms her way down the Pennine Way on a record breaking FKT. Meanwhile, Gary popped north of the border and treated himself to some glorious East Lothian trails.
Over on Strava, the miles are big, the birthday shout‑outs are bumper, and this week’s Tales from the Trails brings a mix of inspiration and a good dose of perspective.
Stu & Eddie have a brew with the coaches takeover as we follow Eddies journey to the 2027 winter spine race. Stu has been on the...
Anna Rutherford - Laura Swanton-Rouvelin - Race Across Scotland #249
We all know nothing is guaranteed in ultra running, and the longer the race, the higher the jeopardy climbs.
This week, we share the story of two runners who are no strangers to the sharp end of some of the UK’s toughest events. Both lined up at the 2026 Race Across Scotland, but their races unfolded very differently. For one runner, it ended in an agonisingly close to the finish DNF, for the other, it became a come from behind victory.
It was incredibly brave of Anna to share her race, and Laura, being the cl...
The Ultimate Warm Up Guide #248
Gary has been racing! Well… not quite racing, but he definitely wasn’t taking it easy. Either way, he loved his time up on the Moors at the Hardmoors Roseberry Topping Trail Marathon.
Eddie’s been in full entertainment mode, and with the kids finally back at school it’s back on the horse, juggling life, training, and trying to squeeze everything in.
The coaches step in to help a listener who needs some guidance on fueling multi‑day adventures, perfect timing with the Dragon’s Back Race just around the corner.
And warming up…...
Marc Laithwaite - Lakeland 50 & 100 #247
As the ballot opens for the 2027 Lakeland 50 & 100, we thought it was the perfect time to spend an hour with one of the main men behind the event, Marc Laithwaite.
Marc brings a mix of funny, heartwarming, and genuinely inspiring stories that capture exactly why this race is so special. And beyond the running, the event has now raised over £1,000,000 for charity, which is just incredible.
It’s one of the absolute highlights of Gary’s year, and he cannot wait to toe the line again in 2027.
And with the race celebrating its 20th anniv...
Crush Your A Race Taper #246
This week we kick things off with two brilliant listener intros, and, believe it or not, both hosts are out there getting after it and building some fitness. It’s all very upbeat at the moment. Long may this new trend continue!
We’ve also got a smoking fast potential Dragon looking for advice ahead of a possible 2027 attempt, plus a few taper tips as we roll into a busy autumn race season. If your big day is creeping closer, this one’s for you.
You lot have been absolutely crushing it on Strava. We’ve got a...
Will Howard - Lakeland 100 3rd Place #245
Will Howard joins us on Tea & Trails to share the remarkable story behind his debut at the Lakeland 100. In his first ever crack at the course, Will stormed to 3rd place, announcing himself as one of the freshest, most exciting new names in UK ultra running.
From a childhood spent trying every sport under the sun, through modern pentathlon, marathon racing, and a breakthrough ultra win in Minnesota, Will’s journey has somehow, almost inevitably led him to the fells. Will brings a blend of talent, perspective, and pure enthusiasm that makes this conversation a joy. It’s up...
UTMB Top Tips #244
We are shaking things up this week! Simon from Run the Wild shares his top 5 UTMB tips. To be honest these with serve you well whatever the trail ultra you choose.
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Stu & Eddie have a brew with the coaches takeover as we follow Eddies journey to the 2027 winter spine race. Stu has been on the podcast before and Eddie has kindle agreed to share her session as she follows The Unbreakable Athlete mindset program.
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Charlotte Mountford - ADHD & Autism in Ultra Running #243
This week we’re catching up with Charlotte Mountford. We first met Charlotte on a frosty Tea & Trails Ultra recce, she later reached out to see if we’d be up for a chat about neurodivergence in ultra running, and of course we said yes.
Charlotte has been diagnosed with ADHD and autism, so we dive into the traits, the challenges, and the joys of running as a neurodivergent athlete.
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What to Do After a DNF #242
Eddie’s been racking up the miles in Morzine, catching up with friends and cruising around familiar trails. Fun times in the mountains! Meanwhile, Gary was nervously pinning on a race number at the Hardmoors Farndale Trail Marathon… which, was actually 28.5 miles. Better value for money, though!
Over in our Strava club, you lot have been stacking big miles and big climbs. Always showing up, always delivering. We’ve got a lovely family inspired Heavy Flex this week, plus a poetic Lakeland 100 Tale from the Trails.
Eddie and I dive into a tricky but important topic...
Sam Shepherd - Head of Sports Science #241
This week we’re joined by Sam Shepherd, Head of Sports Science at Precision Fuel & Hydration. Sam came to Precision after twelve years as a Lecturer and Reader at Liverpool John Moores University, where he specialised in exercise metabolism — particularly how the body uses carbohydrates and fats, and how training and nutrition can be shaped to improve both health and performance.
He’s not just a scientist, either. Sam is a practising sports nutritionist and a keen triathlete, with eight IRONMAN® finishes since 2018, including the World Championships in Kona in 2022.
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Group Run Etiquette #240
Both hosts have been out getting their miles in. Eddie’s been gallivanting around the mountains on a hen weekend, while Gary kept things a bit more local but still managed to squeeze in plenty of fun. Happy to report: legs intact & spirits high.
Meanwhile, you lot have been absolutely flying over on Strava. Another week, another double Heavy Flex. And thank you for the intros, genuinely love hearing from you.
Eddie dishes out some proper wisdom this week on pregnancy and running, and to wrap things up we chat about the fine art of gr...
Jenny Hartley - Summer Spine Champ #239
It’s the second time Jenny Hartley has joined us on the Tea & Trails Podcast, and she’s had quite the adventure since her last visit. The Invictus Games and Gladiators athlete has been busy up on the Pennine Way, setting off from Edale with one big goal in mind, to complete the Summer Spine Race.
She made it all the way to Kirk Yetholm, kissed the famous wall, and did so before any other woman that week.
The 268‑mile journey is packed with twists, turns, highs, lows, and all the chaos the Spine is known...
Lakeland Reflections & Finding Your Feet When the Mojo Slips #238
Gary is back from another epic and equally wonderful lakeland 50 and 100 weekend. Being on the Hardmoors checkpoint gave him a wonderful insight into the race from the front to the back of the field.
Both hosts have been running and their weeks looked like normal training.
You lot, meanwhile, have been absolutely crushing it over on Strava, and we’ve got another double Heavy Flexes week
Eddie dishes out some wisdom and to wrap things up, Gary is wondering what training races to do as he trains for the 2027 Lakeland 100.
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Gabe Joyes #237
Gabe Joyes is a mountain runner, adventurer, and family man based in Lander, Wyoming. Known for tackling rugged, steep, and fiercely competitive mountain ultras, he’s constantly pushing the limits of what’s possible in training, racing, and mountain adventures.
When he’s not roaming some of North America’s most remote terrain, Gabe is coaching, co‑directing the Sinks Canyon and Run the Red Desert races, or out exploring with his wife and two young daughters. He’s driven by a passion for helping others reach their own summits and for protecting the wild places that make these j...
Lakeland 50 & 100 Top Tips #236
It’s almost back to normal for our co‑hosts this week, both have actually been out doing a bit of training!
You lot, meanwhile, have been absolutely crushing it over on Strava, and we’ve got not one but two Heavy Flexes this week
And our Tales from the Trails comes from somewhere truly special, all the way from the Isles of Scilly.
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Trish Patterson - National Three Peaks FKT #235
This week our very own Trish Patterson joins us to share all the gory details from her record‑breaking National Three Peaks Challenge.
What’s the challenge, you ask. The National Three Peaks involves summiting the highest mountains in Scotland, England and Wales. Most people drive between the trailheads. Some cycle and a special few run. However you tackle it, the clock starts at the first trailhead and stops at the final one.
Trish ran the whole thing. All 450 miles. Heavy flex!
If you would like to support Trish's fundraising then follow the link...
The Ultimate Guide to Training on Holiday #234
We are back! Thank you all so much for your patience while we both grabbed some much‑needed family time. I’d love to say we’re refreshed… but the grind never really stops, and the heroic amount of food and drink Gary put away is starting to take its toll. Time to slam the cookie jar shut before he’s forced into a full wardrobe update.
Thank goodness Rebecca is part of our coaching team, because this week’s question needed the kind of proper medical know‑how only she can bring. You lot have also been busy rack...
Ed Payne - From DNF to Spine Champion #233
This week’s guest turned a 2025 DNF into a winning performance. After the heartbreak of last year, Ed Payne came back swinging, and what a comeback it was. A superb race saw him kiss the wall in just over 82 hours, taking the overall win at the 2026 Montane Summer Spine.
Eddie’s flying solo on hosting duties, while Ed takes us through all the deets, the highs, the lows, the finish‑line feels, and exactly what it takes to conquer the Pennine Way when it's doing it's best to break you.
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Running After Surgery #232
Western States weekend delivered in style, and how good was it to see Fi Pascall smashing a huge course PB. Absolutely massive effort, kudos, Fi.
We’ve also got a very emotional listener intro, live from the 2026 Summer Spine Race, Rebecca helps runners who are finding their running legs again after surgery.
Strava is overflowing with inspiration, big miles & big smiles. Heavy Flex is stacked, Tales from the Trails brings even more inspirations, and we round things off with a the big debate... who would be your perfect pacer?
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Anna Rutherford - Ultra Scotland 100 Champ #231
This week, we sit down for a chat with Ultra Scotland 100 champion, Anna Rutherford.
Anna made history as the first ever female to win the Ultra Scotland 100-mile ultramarathon.
Not only did she take the overall win, she smashed the previous course record — finishing in 20 hours, 53 minutes, and 25 seconds, cutting more than three hours off the old record of 24:19:25.
In doing so, she also became the first ever female to win outright at a GB Ultras event.
We go right back to the beginning of her journey, exploring how she balances so...
Over the Hill or Just Getting Started? #230
Both hosts have actually been out running this week, nothing wild, still baby steps for them both, but you can hear it already… that little lift in their voices. They’re loving having the wind in their faces again, even if it’s only for a few miles at a time.
The coaches dive into a great question from an athlete with some big goals, but who might just need a proper cheerleader in her corner.
Strava, as always, does not disappoint. You lot have been out there getting it done on the streets and the tr...
David Miller - SPINE #229
This week we were lucky enough to spend an hour with the incredible David Miller. It was such a treat to hear the stories behind so many of the iconic images that define our sport. It turned into a super‑relaxed chat about running, Zoom vs Teams, the Barkley Marathons, and of course his upcoming book — SPINE: The Story of the Montane Winter Spine Race.
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Cross Training & Who's Your Dream Pacer? #228
It’s a bit of a rambling episode this week, but both hosts are noticeably more upbeat, and it won’t be long before they’re uploading runs to Strava again. We cover cross‑training, breastfeeding while training, pleasuring yourself (yes… that happened), and the all‑important question, who would be your dream pacer in a race.
There are loads of competitions happening over on Instagram right now, so make sure you check out the Tea & Trails account for your chance to win big.
We’ve also had some seriously impressive running in the Strava club, a cheeky...
Laura Swanton-Rouvelin - Hardmoors 200 Champ #227
Inov‑8 athlete and past Tea & Trails guest Laura Swanton‑Rouvelin joins us this week for another deep dive into all things Hardmoors 200. It was a gutsy move from Laura to come back and defend her title especially in a race where there is so much jeopardy.
But she did it. Laura crossed the line in first place, bagging herself a course PB for good measure too.
It wasn’t all smooth sailing, though. Far from it. Laura takes us through the highs, the lows, the wobbles, and the moments of strength that carried her through 200 brutal...
Are Runners Getting Lazy? GPS or Map? #226
Even though Eddie and Gary are on the rebuild, they’re still somehow busier than a Greggs on match day. Gary’s had a short stay in the comparison trap, but a chance encounter with a real‑life hero gave him the reality check he needed.
Both hosts also find themselves openly thirsting over an A‑list movie star. Zero shame from both. We also sing the praises of the humble home gym. We’re not talking squat racks. We mean the trusty dumbbell, a couple of resistance bands, and a yoga mat.
And to round thin...
UTS 100K - Katie Kars-Sijpesteijn #225
This week we’re sharing the mics with friend of the show Katie Kaars-Sijpesteijn. A Salomon and GB athlete, Katie has lined up, and podiumed, at some of the most competitive races out there.
But the last 12 months have taken her down a very different path as she chased a sub‑3 road marathon. Not exactly the classic tune‑up for UTS by UTMB 100K, yet it clearly worked… because she stormed her way to 2nd place in a seriously stacked field.
We chat about her recent races, the unconventional build‑up, and her journey back to racing...
Run Less, Gain More #224
This week, both hosts are… well, struggling. Gary is still absolutely smashed to bits from his first 200‑mile adventure, and Eddie is improving, but living with the uncertainty of injury is tough. So, for Brew with the Coaches, it’s just Gary and Trish, which basically means Trish is doing all the heavy lifting while Gary sits there like a man held together by tape, tea, and wishful thinking.
We chat about how an indoor bike can slot into your training, whether you’re injured, time‑crunched, or just avoiding another soaking on the moors. And Eddie and Gary h...
Gary Thwaites - Hardmoors 200 Champ #223
Ten years ago, Gary popped his 100‑mile cherry on the Cleveland Way. Countless miles have been covered between then and now, but after a bit of refocusing found himself back on a start line, this time for the Hardmoors 200.
Starting in Hull, the route winds through wooded slopes, over rolling hills, and down into deep valleys, before eventually climbing onto the northern escarpment and dropping toward the final stretch of the Wolds Way. At Filey you join the stunning 110‑mile Cleveland Way National Trail.
Over the course of the weekend, Gary’s race evolved from simply...