ABA on Tap
The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist!A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business ownersTaking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions. Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan Lowery (BCBA), and Suzanne Juzwik (BCBA, OBM expert), this ABA podcast explores everything from Behavior Analysis, BT and RBT training, BCBA supervision, the BACB, fieldwork supervision, Functional Behavior A...
The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership: Ethics, Growth and Parsimony with Kristyn Peterson (Part II)
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The hardest part of behavior analysis isn’t the data sheet, it’s the human side: how you show up, how you lead, and how you make change feel doable. ABA on Tap is back with Dr. Kristen Peterson for a candid, practical conversation that connects behavioral artistry to the real-world pressures BCBAs face when business models clash with clinical values. If you’ve ever felt like you’re “making humans do the thing” without believing in the system behind it, you’ll re...
The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership: Ethics, Growth and Parsimony with Kristyn Peterson (Part I)
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A BCBA passes the exam, gets promoted fast, and suddenly has to lead teams, train new RBTs, manage payer demands, and still protect the client’s care. That jump can feel like getting handed the keys to a moving car, especially in underserved markets where there is no mentorship bench and no clean roadmap for what a clinical director should actually do.
Kristen Peterson joins ABA on Tap to tell the truth about early-career leadership in applied behavior an...
What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the Rules and Finding Reinforcement with Mark Malady (Part II)
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If you have ever felt pressured to list “behaviors for reduction” even when you know the real need is skill building, this conversation will hit home. ABA on Tap continues our sit down with Mark Malady, to talk about constructional ABA, where the aim is not to stop behavior for everyone else’s comfort but to build the repertoires that let a learner get their needs met with more freedom, safety, and dignity.
We get into why procedure-heavy progra...
What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the Rules and Finding Reinforcement with Mark Malady (Part I)
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A piece of duct tape on the floor becomes a turning point for how we think about safety, reinforcement, and basic human connection. Mike and Dan sit down with Mark Malady to trace the long arc from an IEP and constant school changes to building programs for adults with severe aggression and minimal communication. Along the way, Mark shares the moment he stopped accepting the “he doesn’t like people” assumption and started asking a better behavioral question: what history built...
From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe Castañeda Brews A Fresh Perspective (Part II)
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You can have the best behavior plan in the world and still fail if the classroom doesn’t trust you. Mike and Dan pick up part two with Lupe Castaneda, and get practical about school-based ABA, BCBA leadership in schools, and the messy middle where collaboration meets real-world constraints. We talk through what it looks like when we’re “not the experts” in the family system or the classroom environment, yet we’re brought in because something is already...
From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe Castañeda Brews A Fresh Perspective (Part I)
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If you’ve ever walked into a school confident in your assessment, your data, and your “best practice” plan, and still watched it fall apart by week two, you’re not alone. Mike and Dan sit down with Lupe Castaneda, a longtime school-based BCBA and consultant, to talk about what actually makes ABA in schools work, and what quietly makes it fail even when everyone has good intentions.
We start with Lupe’s path into the field...
Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A Sip and A Candid Chat with Asia Johnson (Part II)
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A kid can learn their colors and still be worse off if they’ve been trained to silence “no.” That tension drives our candid conversation with Asia Johnson as we wrestle with what ethical, modern ABA therapy should look like when the goal is a real life, not perfect compliance. We talk honestly about how many clinicians are shaped by a single supervisor, a single company, and a single packaged system, and how that funnel can turn good people into one-tr...
Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A Sip and A Candid Chat with Asia Johnson (Part I)
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A two-pound baby in the NICU. A young mom in a demanding academic track. Years of sleepless nights, confusing behaviors, and a system full of waitlists and half-answers. Asia Johnson joins us to share the throughline that connects all of it-- learning how to advocate for her daughter, and then bringing that same urgency and empathy into the ABA field as an RBT and later a BCBA.
In this pour of ABA on Tap, Mike, Dan and Asia g...
Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part II)
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Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring.
"They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser to talk about truth telling, good hiring, and what happens when companies optimize for speed and margin while ignoring training, retention, and the human reality of autism services delivered in a family’s home.
We dig into th...
Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part I)
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Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour.
Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down with Holly Beth Clauser to unpack why ABA organizations keep bleeding great RBTs, why families lose trust when staffing churn never stops, and what changes actually improve recruitment, onboarding, and retention without burning people out.
We...
A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension: Compassion and Food with Dr. Yev Veverka (Part II)
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Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a parent of neurodivergence.
We are tackling the flaws in traditional ABA delivery and diving straight into ho...
A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension: Compassion and Food with Dr. Yev Veverka (Part I)
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Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a parent of neurodivergence.
We are tackling the flaws in traditional ABA delivery and diving straight into ho...
Tap Into A Reinforcing Conversation with Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres
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*FOR PART I of this interview, please go to the Reinforcing Conversations Podcast
Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by a powerhouse duo shaking up the behavior analysis space: Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres, creators of the Reinforcing Conversations podcast. This is a pod-swap, so part I of this convo starts on the Reinforcing Conversations platform. Please do check it out.
Nicole and Christina are...
The Birds, The Bees, and The BCBAs: Understanding Sexual Behavior Analysis with Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part II)
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Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether.
Nicholas is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Analyst (LBA), and a certified sexuality counselor who specializes in Sexual Behavior Analysis (SBA)—a subfield he pioneered at his agency, Empowered: A Center for Sexuality LLC.
In...
The Birds, The Bees, and The BCBAs: Understanding Sexual Behavior Analysis with Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part I)
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Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether.
Nicholas is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Analyst (LBA), and a certified sexuality counselor who specializes in Sexual Behavior Analysis (SBA)—a subfield he pioneered at his agency, Empowered: A Center for Sexuality LLC.
In...
Putting the 'U' in Behaviour: The Art of the Behaviour Lifestyle with Shouberte Abreu (Part II)
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Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In addition, the crew is pleasantly surprised by a bonus guest, Dr. Scott O'Donnell.
Shouberte takes us beyond the laboratory, sharing her journey from navigating tough supervision to becoming a leading mentor, author, and I...
Putting the 'U' in Behaviour: The Art of the Behaviour Lifestyle with Shouberte Abreu (Part I)
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ABA on Tap is proud to spend some time with Shouberte Abreu (Part 1 of 2):
Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In addition, the crew is pleasantly surprised by a bonus guest, Dr. Scott O'Donnell.
Shouberte takes us beyond the laboratory, sharing her journey from navigating tough supervision to becoming a leading mentor, author, and I...
A Fresh Keg of Value-Based Care: Optum's 'Low Hours, High Impact' with Mike and Dan (Part II)
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(Part 2 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact".
For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to tell a different story. We’re diving deep into the science and the shift toward Value-Based Care, exploring how focused, high-quality interventions can sometimes move the needle further than pure volume.
In this "pour," we’re s...
A Fresh Keg of Value-Based Care: Optum's 'Low Hours, High Impact' with Mike and Dan (Part I)
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(Part 1 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact".
For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to tell a different story. We’re diving deep into the science and the shift toward Value-Based Care, exploring how focused, high-quality interventions can sometimes move the needle further than pure volume.
In this "pour," we’re s...
A Pour of the New Brew: Clinical Decision Support & Non-Binary Thinking with Amanda Ralston (Part II)
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Grab a stool and a cold one because this week on ABA on Tap, we’re joined by an ABA powerhouse, now tech-innovator, Amanda "Mandy" Ralston, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA. With over 25 years in the field and a "serial entrepreneur" badge of honor, Mandy is here to help us move past the rigid, binary thinking that often limits our profession.
In this episode, we’re serving up:
The "Medical Necessity Sandwich": Mandy breaks down her viral...A Pour of the New Brew: Clinical Decision Support & Non-Binary Thinking with Amanda Ralston (Part I)
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Grab a stool and a cold one because this week on ABA on Tap, we’re joined by an ABA powerhouse, now tech-innovator, Amanda "Mandy" Ralston, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA. With over 25 years in the field and a "serial entrepreneur" badge of honor, Mandy is here to help us move past the rigid, binary thinking that often limits our profession.
In this episode, we’re serving up:
The "Medical Necessity Sandwich": Mandy breaks down her viral...Precision, Passion, and a Pint with Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D (Part II)
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Pull up a chair and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery sit down with the powerhouse of Precision Teaching herself, Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D, LBA.
Dr. Milyko isn't just an expert in the field; she’s a pioneer in instructional design and evidence-based curriculum development. Known for her "Capital-P" passion for Precision Teaching, Kerri joins the guys to break down ho...
Precision, Passion, and a Pint with Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D (Part I)
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Pull up a chair and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery sit down with the powerhouse of Precision Teaching herself, Dr. Kerri Milyko, BCBA-D, LBA.
Dr. Milyko isn't just an expert in the field; she’s a pioneer in instructional design and evidence-based curriculum development. Known for her "Capital-P" passion for Precision Teaching, Kerri joins the guys to break down ho...
Brewing Better Animal Behavior: Shelter Science with Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, Part II
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Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, we’re joined by Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, BCBA-D, to explore the fascinating intersection of behavior analysis and animal welfare.
Dr. Feuerbacher is an Associate Professor at Virginia Tech and a leading expert in applied animal behavior. We dive into her groundbreaking research on what truly reinforces our four-legged friends, their social connections, and how we can use the science of behavior to...
Brewing Better Animal Behavior: Shelter Science with Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, Part I
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Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, we’re joined by Dr. Erica Feuerbacher, BCBA-D, to explore the fascinating intersection of behavior analysis and animal welfare.
Dr. Feuerbacher is an Associate Professor at Virginia Tech and a leading expert in applied animal behavior. We dive into her groundbreaking research on what truly reinforces our four-legged friends, their social connections, and how we can use the science of behavior to...
Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part III)
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Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He is the founder of SAOBA, LLC, and currently serves as an Adjunct Assistant Professor at Temple University.
Dr. O’Donnell’s career spans over a decade, with a focus on diverse populations including inner-city youth, athletes, and individuals with Autism Spectrum Disord...
Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part II)
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Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He is the founder of SAOBA, LLC, and currently serves as an Adjunct Assistant Professor at Temple University.
Dr. O’Donnell’s career spans over a decade, with a focus on diverse populations including inner-city youth, athletes, and individuals with Autism Spectrum Disord...
Analyzing The Behavior of Everything with Dr. Scott O'Donnell (Part I)
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Dr. Scott O’Donnell, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, is a dedicated behavior analyst, educator, and therapist recognized for his advocacy in expanding the reach of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond traditional settings. He is the founder of SAOBA, LLC, and currently serves as an Adjunct Assistant Professor at Temple University.
Dr. O’Donnell’s career spans over a decade, with a focus on diverse populations including inner-city youth, athletes, and individuals with Autism Spectrum Disord...
Words that Work: Brittany Warnke on Effective Language Interventions (Part II)
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In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Brittany Warnke, MA, CCC-SLP, a dedicated Speech-Language Pathologist from San Diego, California.
Brittany brings her specialized expertise in bridging the gap between speech pathology and behavior analysis to the table. Currently serving at Pioneer Day School, Brittany focuses on collaborative, interdisciplinary approaches to support learners with diverse communication needs.
In this episode...
Words that Work: Brittany Warnke on Effective Language Interventions (Part I)
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ABA on Tap is proud to present Brittany Warnke, SLP (Part 1 of 2):
In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Brittany Warnke, MA, CCC-SLP, a dedicated Speech-Language Pathologist from San Diego, California.
Brittany brings her specialized expertise in bridging the gap between speech pathology and behavior analysis to the table. Currently serving at Pioneer Day School, Brittany focuses on collaborative, interdisciplinary approaches to support learners with diverse communication needs.
In this episode...
Behavioral Wellness: Creating Functional Change for Families and Schools With Dr. Tranika Jefferson (Part II)
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ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Tranika Jefferson, BCBA-D (Part 2 of 2):
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tranika Jefferson, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, IBA, a distinguished doctoral-level Board Certified Behavior Analyst and the founder of The Behavioral Wellness Academy. With over 16 years of experience in the field, Dr. Jefferson has dedicated her career to understanding the "why" behind human behavior and using evidence-based Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) to improve lives.
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Holistic ABA Therapy: How Dr. Jefferson...Behavioral Wellness: Creating Functional Change for Families and Schools With Dr. Tranika Jefferson (Part I)
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ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Tranika Jefferson, BCBA-D (Part 1 of 2):
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tranika Jefferson, PhD, BCBA-D, LBA, IBA, a distinguished doctoral-level Board Certified Behavior Analyst and the founder of The Behavioral Wellness Academy. With over 16 years of experience in the field, Dr. Jefferson has dedicated her career to understanding the "why" behind human behavior and using evidence-based Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) to improve lives.
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Holistic ABA Therapy: How Dr. Jefferson u...ABA on Tap -- Why 40 Hours? (Inaugural Episode Revisited)
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Bringing back greatest hits as we wrap on 2025! Our inaugural episode - what got everything started! Originally published 2/15/2020 please enjoy our discussion on the 40-hour ABA model and if it's still medically necessary 40 years after Lovaas published his article stating that it was.
Behavior Analysts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery kick off their podcast adventure by pouring a user-friendly, unfiltered, smooth and easy to consume discussion on Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). In this inaugural episode, Mike and Dan sort through the idea of 40-hours a week of in-home ABA treatment--a common...
It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like, Overstimulation: Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan, Part II
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Get ready to navigate family gatherings with ease! In this episode, Mike and Dan are unwrapping the essential conversations so the surprises are all about cheer.
Priming is the name of the game--talking with kids and family members before big events, covering topics from managing sensory overload and food expectations (balance, not control!) to setting boundaries and dealing with tricky relatives. The idea is ensuring your kids and family members feel prepared, supported, and less stressed f...
It's Beginning to Look A Lot Like, Overstimulation: Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan, Part I
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ABA on Tap presents 'Holiday ABA with Mike and Dan,' (Part 1 of 2)
Get ready to navigate family gatherings with ease! In this episode, Mike and Dan are unwrapping the essential conversations so the surprises are all about cheer.
Priming is the name of the game--talking with kids and family members before big events, covering topics from managing sensory overload and food expectations (balance, not control!) to setting boundaries and dealing with tricky relatives. The idea is ensuring your kids and family members feel prepared, supported, and less stressed f...
RBT--Person or Service?
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Bringing back greatest hits as we wrap on 2025! Originally published on Season 4 Episode 8 and referred to often in subsequent podcasts, please rejoin us and enjoy this episode - RBT-Person or Service!
Continuity of quality service might be one of the most important aspects of treatment with successful outcomes. Quality can refer to a number of variables including a strong rapport between client (and family) and clinicians, built over time with a steady progression of engaging and reinforcing sessions. While case managers are part of this quality service, it is inevitably the...
ACT, MFT and ABA: Discovering a Unique Alphabet with Matt Tapia (Part II)
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Matt Tapia is a dually-credentialed professional, holding licenses as both a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in Arizona and California and a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA). This unique background allows him to offer a comprehensive, integrated perspective on mental health and behavior, drawing from both clinical counseling and applied behavior analysis.
Matt's therapeutic approach is heavily influenced by third-wave behavioral therapies, including Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Dialectical Behavior Therapy...
ACT, MFT and ABA: Discovering a Unique Alphabet with Matt Tapia (Part I)
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ABA on Tap is proud to present Matt Tapia (Part 1 of 2):
Matt Tapia is a dually-credentialed professional, holding licenses as both a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in Arizona and California and a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA). This unique background allows him to offer a comprehensive, integrated perspective on mental health and behavior, drawing from both clinical counseling and applied behavior analysis.
Matt's therapeutic approach is heavily influenced by third-wave behavioral therapies, including Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Dialectical Behavior Therapy...
Shared Joy Before Data: A Discussion with Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller, Part II
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Join us for an insightful conversation with renowned behavior analyst, author, and speaker Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller. As the founder of the international Do Better Collective, Megan is a leading voice in advancing humane, person-centered, and neurodiversity-affirming practices within Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). In this episode, we dive into:
The crucial role of building genuine trust and rapport with clients.Strategies for approaching challenging behaviors while maintaining dignity and respect for the individual.Translating complex...Shared Joy Before Data: A Discussion with Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller, Part I
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ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller (Part 1 of 2):
Join us for an insightful conversation with renowned behavior analyst, author, and speaker Dr. Megan DeLeon Miller. As the founder of the international Do Better Collective, Megan is a leading voice in advancing humane, person-centered, and neurodiversity-affirming practices within Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). In this episode, we dive into:
The crucial role of building genuine trust and rapport with clients.Strategies for approaching challenging behaviors while maintaining dignity and respect for the individual.Translating complex...