SPIRIT School of Ministry

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss covenant relationships, marriage, divorce, remarriage, and God’s heart for reconciliation. In this episode, they approach a difficult and deeply personal topic with biblical clarity, pastoral wisdom, and compassion. Together, they unpack what covenant really means, why marriage is more than a contract, how God’s mercy meets people in broken relationships, and why the church must walk with people through pain, counsel, safety, accountability, and restoration.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor David Lien as they discuss what true biblical courage really looks like. In this episode, they unpack the connection between faith and courage, how to trust God in seasons of uncertainty, and why courage is not the absence of fear — but obedience in the middle of it. Through biblical examples like Joshua, David, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Stephen, and the heroes of faith in Hebrews 11, this conversation will encourage you to stand firm, trust God’s faithfulness, and step across the thresholds He places before you.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Athena as they unpack the root of anxiety and how fear, pressure, performance, and isolation can quietly shape our lives. In this episode, they discuss religious anxiety, fear of punishment, perfectionism, trusting God’s presence, and practical ways to walk in peace through prayer, community, and surrender to the Holy Spirit.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Liz Jones as they unpack the true meaning of waiting on the Lord. In this episode, they explore how waiting isn’t passive—it’s active, intentional, and deeply connected to trust. They dive into the tension between moving forward and surrendering to God’s timing, and how waiting becomes a place where faith is strengthened, character is formed, and intimacy with God is deepened. If you’ve ever felt stuck, delayed, or frustrated in a season of waiting, this conversation will help you reframe it and step into it with purpose.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Peniel Whitmer as they unpack the true role of a teacher in the Kingdom of God. In this episode, they explore how teaching goes far beyond simply giving information—it’s about inspiring transformation, cultivating hunger for truth, and helping others encounter God for themselves. They discuss the connection between teaching and coaching, the importance of being led by the Holy Spirit, and why great teachers don’t create dependence—they multiply others.

Join Pastor David, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they unpack a core truth of the Kingdom: we weren’t called to just gather - we were called to multiply. In this episode, they explore what real discipleship looks like, why Jesus sent people out, and how the life of God is meant to overflow into others. If you’ve ever felt like there’s more to your walk with God than just showing up, this conversation will challenge and invite you into something deeper.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it really means to step out of the boat and follow Jesus in faith. In this episode, they unpack the story of Peter walking on water in Matthew 14, exploring how faith often requires leaving what is familiar, trusting the voice of the Lord, and saying yes even when the outcome is unclear. This conversation will challenge and encourage you to move beyond comfort into deeper trust—learning to respond to His voice and walk with Him, even in the unknown.

Join Pastor David, Pastor Bob, and Jeribai Tascoe as they dive into what it really means to walk in the Spirit. Not as a religious formula, but as a daily relationship with God. In this episode, they unpack how walking in the Spirit looks in everyday life—from doing dishes to navigating work, relationships, and challenges. You’ll be encouraged to move beyond striving and step into a life of peace, guidance, and continual connection with the Holy Spirit.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they talk about the Discerning of spirits - what it is, why it matters, and how the Holy Spirit uses it to protect, guide, and bring freedom. This conversation brings clarity to a topic that can often feel misunderstood, showing how discernment is rooted in the Word, led by the Spirit, and expressed through love.

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss sharing the gospel and what it looks like to bring the good news of Jesus into everyday life. Through biblical insight and practical experience, they explore how the simplicity of the gospel carries the power to transform lives and why every believer is called to share it. They talk about listening to people, sharing your testimony, recognizing the season someone may be in, and learning to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit in authentic conversations. Be encouraged that sharing the gospel doesn’t have to be...

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor Bob Wilk and Athena Low as they discuss the topic of Loving the Lost. In this episode, they break down how God’s love draws, restores, and transforms both those outside the church and those within it. They share personal testimonies of how steadfast love heals hardened hearts, the difference between conviction and condemnation, and why love is the true evidence of discipleship. This conversation highlights how we are called to be the tangible expression of Christ’s love — inside the house and outside the house — because the greatest of these is love.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David Lien and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss how the resurrection of Jesus frees us from fear — even the fear of death. Through personal testimony and biblical insight, they share what it means to bring every thought into captivity, shut the door on anxiety, and trust God in the face of overwhelming circumstances. Be encouraged that courage isn’t the absence of fear, but choosing faith in the middle of it. Because Jesus is the resurrection and the life, you are never alone in the fire — and death does not have the final word.

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they dive into the fear of the Lord, exploring how God’s love and discipline shape our hearts. Learn how to distinguish between emotional devotion and genuine obedience from the heart, and how reverence for God brings transformation, protection, and blessing into every area of life.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David Lien, and Athena Low as they discuss the topic of Dethroning Death. In this episode, they explore the death and burial of Christ and the powerful spiritual significance behind it. They unpack how Jesus’ burial represents the defeat of death, the restoration of humanity, and the hope of resurrection for every believer. This conversation highlights the victory Christ accomplished in both the physical and spiritual realms, the freedom believers have from the fear of death, and how baptism connects us to His death, burial, and resurrection. Be encouraged as they share biblical insight and pr...

Join Pastor Liz Jones, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor David Lien as they discuss the topic of Generosity and Giving. This conversation explores the freedom found in surrender, the heart behind tithes and offerings, and how giving goes far beyond money. They break down biblical principles of generosity, the difference between law and freedom, and how listening to the Holy Spirit shapes the way we give to both the church and people around us.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Liz Jones, and Athena Low as they unpack prophecy, discernment, and spiritual authority. This episode teaches how to test words from God, navigate timing, operate under submission, and recognize false prophets. Learn how to partner with God in hearing, speaking, and walking out His Word faithfully while avoiding deception.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Liz Jones, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss the topic of Seeking the Lord. In this episode, they break down what God is actually offering when He invites us to seek Him—life, restoration, and fellowship with Himself. The discussion covers holiness, furnishing the inner life with God’s Word, and how seeking the Lord shapes a people who reflect His glory together. This episode encourages listeners to return to hunger, devotion, and wholehearted pursuit of God.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and special guest Jerusha Waelty as they explore the subtle and often hidden nature of pride and the radical humility revealed in Christ. This conversation unpacks Philippians 2, the humility of God, and how true freedom is found in giving ourselves away. They discuss practical ways to overcome pride through confession, gratitude, service, and raising others up, revealing humility not as weakness, but as the very character of God.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and special guest Jerusha Waelty as they discuss the tension between the seen and unseen realms. This episode breaks down how the world constantly competes for our attention, why spiritual sight matters, and how believers learn to live from the greater reality of Christ’s kingdom while walking through real-life challenges.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk and Pastor David Lien with special guest Julie Healy as they discuss the power of praise and worship in the life of a believer. They talk about why praise can feel counterintuitive in seasons of heaviness, yet how it becomes a powerful tool God uses to break chains and bring freedom. Drawing from Scripture, including Paul and Silas in prison, they break down how praise shifts our focus from self-effort to God’s presence and faithfulness. This episode encourages believers to put on the garment of praise, defy despair, and trust God even when circumstances do...

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the topic of Self-Righteousness vs. God’s Righteousness. In this episode, they unpack how self-righteousness often grows out of good intentions and religious striving, while God’s righteousness is received through faith in Christ. The conversation explores right standing with God, the danger of performance-based faith, and how true righteousness produces freedom, humility, and love for others. They break down how living from God’s righteousness transforms our relationships, our rest, and the way we walk with Him daily.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the topic of Family. They explore why God established family as the foundation for human flourishing and how family reveals God’s nature as Father. This episode breaks down the importance of belonging, trust, boundaries, and maturity, as well as how the church is called to function as a true spiritual family. The conversation highlights God’s heart for every person— married, single, parent, or child—and how family is meant to carry the Kingdom forward.

Join Athena Low, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss the transformative power of connection, love, and covenant in the body of Christ. They explore how God’s grace enables us to overcome rejection and fear, helping us to pour life into others while remaining rooted in Him. Through the analogy of the heart and practical insights on communion and relationships, this episode emphasizes the importance of agape love in building unity, sustaining spiritual life, and walking in purpose as part of the body of Christ.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Athena Low and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss the powerful story of Esther and what it reveals about identity, calling, and navigating the messy realities of life with God. In this candid and insightful episode of the Spirit School of Ministry Podcast, the team unpacks Esther’s journey from orphaned exile to a woman positioned by God to save an entire nation.

Together they explore themes of identity being stripped and restored, the role of spiritual covering, the contrast between self-preserving and selfless courage, and how God moves even in the most imperfect an...

Join Pastors David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss one of the most talked-about and often misunderstood topics in the church today: women in ministry. With honesty, scholarship, and a deep reverence for Scripture, the conversation explores how faithful Christians can arrive at different interpretations—while still honoring Jesus and remaining united in the essentials of the faith. Pastor David shares his own journey of re-examining long-held beliefs, Jeribai brings clarity from the biblical narrative and the work of the Holy Spirit, and Pastor Liz offers powerful insight from both Old and New Testament examples of...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it truly means to return to the simplicity found in Christ. In this heartfelt conversation, they reflect on how easy it is to complicate our faith through knowledge, performance, and religious routine—when all along, the heart of Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Himself. Together, they explore what it looks like to walk in childlike faith, free from striving, and to rediscover the wonder of knowing Him personally. Their discussion reminds listeners that maturity in faith isn’t about mastering information, but about deepening inti...

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the powerful account of the woman caught in adultery from John 8. Together, they unpack how Jesus’ response reveals the heart of God—one that refuses to condemn but instead offers forgiveness, restoration, and a new way of living. The conversation dives into themes of mercy over judgment, the difference between law and grace, and how repentance is a response to love rather than a prerequisite for it. Through thoughtful dialogue and moments of humor, the pastors explore what it means to demonstrate Christ’s compassion in tod...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss how our affections—what we set our hearts on—can either bring us closer to God or become spiritual infections that distort our desires. They explore how idols form when we direct our love toward created things instead of the Creator, producing disordered emotions and inner turmoil. The conversation emphasizes that God’s design for affection is to fill us with His presence, transforming our inner life into a “holy infection” that radiates love, peace, and compassion. Through repentance and renewed intimacy with the Father, believers can cleans...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss what it truly means to live as citizens of heaven while walking out our faith in a secular nation. In this episode, they unpack the growing conversation around “Christian nationalism,” clarifying how our first allegiance belongs to the Kingdom of God—not to political systems or ideologies. Through biblical insight and honest dialogue, they explore how believers can influence culture without confusing political identity with spiritual identity. The conversation highlights the call to live as salt and light, transforming society through love, humility, and the power of the...

Join Pastor David Lien, Julie Healy, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss the mystery and beauty of the Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—and what it means for us to live in the fullness of God’s love. Together they explore how the eternal relationship within the Godhead reveals the very nature of love, unity, and purpose, and how we’ve been invited into that divine communion through Christ. From understanding God as family to recognizing our oneness with Him, this conversation dives deep into the heart of what it means to be created in His image. Discover how the...

Join Pastor David Lien, Athena Low, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss what it means to have a stony heart—a heart that’s grown numb, stubborn, or closed off to God’s voice. In this powerful and deeply honest conversation, the hosts unpack how spiritual hardness develops, how it impacts our relationship with God and others, and how true healing begins when we yield to the Holy Spirit’s softening work. Through scripture, personal stories, and moments of revelation, they explore God’s promise in Ezekiel to replace our hearts of stone with hearts of flesh—tender, responsive, and alive. W...

Join Pastor David, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss the origins of the rapture and what Scripture actually says about it. In this episode, they uncover how a 19th-century teaching reshaped much of modern church culture and why it continues to spark debate today. With humor, honesty, and biblical insight, they highlight the dangers of escapist thinking and the hope we have in Christ’s kingdom on earth. The conversation challenges listeners to see beyond fear-based doctrines and to embrace their role as salt and light in the world. Tune in for a thought-provoking and faith-strengthening di...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss the power and scandal of God’s grace, a gift freely given through the finished work of Jesus. They explain how grace is not earned by works, rituals, or penance but received daily as God’s power to redeem, sanctify, and sustain us. The conversation highlights how condemnation, guilt, and shame can keep believers trapped, yet God’s grace brings freedom, restoration, and a new identity. They emphasize that grace is not a license to sin but an invitation to live by the Spirit, empowered for good w...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it truly means to love our enemies in a world filled with hostility and division. In this episode, they explore Jesus’ radical call to extend mercy, forgiveness, and sacrificial love, even when it feels impossible. Through Scripture and personal reflection, the pastors unpack how God’s nature empowers us to overcome retaliation and bitterness with reconciliation and grace. They remind us that Christ loved us while we were still His enemies and now calls us to embody that same love in our relationships. This conversation chal...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss what it truly means to live the abundant life Jesus promised in John 10:10. Together they unpack how God’s abundance goes far beyond material wealth, pointing instead to spiritual overflow, eternal life, and the joy of walking with Christ daily. The conversation highlights how abundance is meant to be shared—freely received and freely given to others in love, stewardship, and community. They explore the dangers of striving, comparison, and “spiritual hoarding,” contrasting them with the freedom of living from God’s generosity. This episode is both encou...

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Pastor David Lien and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss Psalm 46 and the unshakable refuge we have in God. In this episode, they unpack the imagery of roaring waters, trembling mountains, and the river of God that brings peace in the midst of turmoil. Together, they explore how God’s presence transforms fear into faith, calling us to cease striving and rest in His strength. Their conversation dives into the balance of God’s dynamic power and His stillness, offering hope for those facing chaos and uncertainty. Listeners will be encouraged to anchor their hearts in the...

Join Pastor David Lien, Athena Low, and Ashley Ball as they discuss the depth and power of God’s love revealed in 1 Corinthians 13. They highlight how agape—selfless, sacrificial love—differs from other forms of love and serves as the foundation for all spiritual gifts and actions. The conversation emphasizes that without love, even powerful works of faith or service are empty, and that true love requires slowing down, receiving God’s love personally, and letting it overflow into others. They reflect on how God’s love never fails, endures through trials, and transforms our relationships by moving us from self...

Join Pastor David, Athena Low, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss the reality of pressure in the Christian life and how God uses it to shape His people. From the everyday weight of responsibilities to spiritual trials, they explore how to discern between pressures that refine us and those meant to oppress us. The conversation highlights the importance of leaning on God, bearing one another’s burdens, and finding relief in His presence rather than worldly substitutes. Using vivid metaphors of diamonds, trees, and wine presses, they illustrate how pressure produces strength, character, and Christlikeness. Listeners will be encouraged to...

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Athena Low as they discuss the beauty of unity within the body of Christ amidst diverse expressions of faith. This heartfelt conversation unpacks the difference between error and expression, reminding believers to lead with love, humility, and a shared foundation in Jesus. The hosts challenge tribalism in the Church and emphasize the value of relationship over religion. With powerful scripture references and personal stories, they highlight how God is at work in every house and how we’re called to honor His bride. Tune in for a call to reconciliation, spiritual maturity, an...

In this deeply honest and Spirit-filled episode of the SPIRIT School of Ministry Podcast, Pastor Bob Wilk, Pastor Liz Jones, and Jeribai Tascoe take on the topic of fear—how it manifests in our lives, how it hinders our calling, and how the love of God is the ultimate remedy. From real-life evangelism experiences to stories of breakthrough, the conversation exposes the torment of fear, whether it’s fear of rejection, fear of man, or fear of letting go of control. They distinguish between godly reverence and ungodly fear, shedding light on how religious mindsets can mask bondage. With a ge...