The Edge of Work

Dani Johnson is Co-Founder and Principal Analyst at RedThread Research, and returns to the show to unpack how learning and development is being reshaped in real time. Drawing on new research, she offers a different perspective on the centralized vs decentralization org structure and staffing model, and instead argues for more intentional, decision-based design. Dani also shares why Learning and Development’s pursuit of having a “Seat at the table” may be fading and why that might not be a bad thing. From the rise of workflow-based learning to the growing importance of data and change management, she outlines what i...

Mohit Jiwnani is the Director of Talent Development at Okta. In this episode, he shares how AI is reshaping leadership development and why traditional programs may no longer be enough as the nature of work changes. During this conversation, Mohit explores how organizations can shift from teaching leadership in classrooms to enabling leaders in the flow of work by redesigning workflows, clarifying what work humans should own versus AI, and helping teams operate differently. 

Mohit also discusses practical approaches to AI adoption and empowering internal champions to drive change. Finally, he reflects on how leaders can embed A...

Greg Pryor is a Founding Member of Connected Commons and a longtime leader in human capital and talent strategy. In this episode of Greg joins the podcast to discuss why social capital, the relationships and networks that connect people, plays such a major role in career success and organizational performance. He shares stories from his work in management consulting, talent leadership, and research on networks to explain how relationships shape influence, learning, and opportunity. 

They also explore how organizations can identify key influencers, lead change more effectively, and avoid collaboration overload. The conversation closes with a discussion a...

Elizabeth McSavaney is the Chief People Officer of Zurich Canada, where she leads talent strategy in a highly technical, rapidly evolving industry. In this live episode from the 2026 Transform Conference, Elizabeth shares how Zurich Canada is rethinking learning and development by focusing less on training activity and more on solving real business problems. She explains how initiatives like “Day to Invest” create space for growth, why capability and not completion should be the true measure of learning, and how HR teams can build credibility by driving measurable outcomes. 

Elizabeth also discusses preparing early-career talent, embedding AI into every...

Kyle Forrest is a Principal and the Future of HR Leader at Deloitte Consulting, where he helps organizations navigate the rapidly evolving intersection of Humans and AI. In this live episode from the Transform Conference in Las Vegas, Kyle breaks down two of the key trends from Deloitte’s 2026 Global Human Capital Trends Report. 

During our conversation, he explores how organizations can stay relevant amid constant change, why traditional change management is falling short, and what it means to become “changeful.” Kyle also dives into the rise of orchestration—where leaders must align human and machine capabilities—and what it...

Aneesh Raman is Chief Economic Opportunity Officer at LinkedIn and Co-Author of Open To Work: How to Get Ahead in the Age of AI. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Aneesh shares his perspective on how AI is reshaping careers, leadership, and the very nature of work itself. He explains why many professionals feel overwhelmed and unprepared, and why that anxiety is also an opportunity to rediscover uniquely human strengths like curiosity, creativity, and compassion. Finally, Aneesh shares why the traditional career ladder is breaking down, how individuals can adapt using a “climbing wall” mindset, and what orga...

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea explores how to grow your career in a time when AI, automation, and constant change are reshaping the workplace. He shares why traditional career paths and milestones are becoming less reliable, and why it is more important to focus on direction instead of fixed destinations. 

Al offers practical guidance on taking agency of your development, building adaptable skills, and staying relevant even when the future feels uncertain. He also explains how employees can shift their mindset from waiting for clarity to actively creating career opportunities for t...

Michael Bungay Stanier is the Author of The Coaching Habit and Host of the Change Signal podcast. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Michael joins Al Dea to challenge conventional thinking around change management and introduce the concept of change mastery. Drawing on insights from his podcast and decades of experience, Michael explains why most change initiatives fail and what leaders must do differently in a world defined by constant disruption. He shares the three pillars of change mastery, distributed agency, organizational capacity, and technical excellence—and why successful change depends less on process and more on pe...

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea explores why one of the most important responsibilities of leaders today is becoming a developer of talent. With leaders stretched thin and expectations constantly growing, Al makes the case for why developing people cannot be optional if organizations want better performance, engagement, and adaptability. He introduces the idea of practices of development, (aka PODs) small, practical actions leaders can embed into everyday work to help employees grow without relying on formal programs. 

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Ariel Leonard is the SVP of Talent at Frontier Communications, where she is helping lead a large-scale transformation of the company’s workforce and talent strategy. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Ariel shares how Frontier is shifting from traditional HR processes to a more skills focused, business aligned approach to talent. She explains how her team is rethinking workforce planning, internal mobility, and leadership development to support long term growth. Ariel also discusses the importance of building trust, creating clearer career pathways, and helping employees see new opportunities inside the organization. 

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Matthew Duncan is the Head of Future of Work & AI Thought Leadership at Microsoft, where he helps organizations understand how AI is reshaping work, leadership, and organizational design. In this episode, Matthew explains what it means to build a frontier firm that is human led and agent operated. 

He shares why intelligence is becoming an on demand resource, how agents are changing the role of managers and early career talent, and why simply adding AI tools is not enough. The conversation also explores the mindset shifts leaders must make, what holds organizations back from adoption, and why t...

Dominik Rus is the Global Head of Learning and Development Innovation and Technology at TTEC, where he sits at the intersection of learning science, AI, and business performance. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Dominik shares how his team approaches learning innovation with a clear philosophy of science first, AI second. 

He explains why scaling bad learning with new technology creates more problems than it solves, and how TTEC is using evidence based design, AI enabled practice, and agent driven tools to improve real world performance. The conversation also explores how learning roles are changing, w...

In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, Al Dea shares practical guidance for leaders who are navigating constant, overlapping change. Drawing from his work with organizations, conversations with podcast guests, and real world experience, Al breaks down why change feels so difficult at work and what leaders often miss about the human side of it. He explores common reactions to change, including fear, loss of control, and identity threats, and offers five pragmatic practices leaders can use to drive meaningful progress. 

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Rebecca Hinds is the Head of the Work AI Institute at Glean. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Rebecca joins Al Dea to unpack why meetings have become one of the biggest barriers to effective collaboration and how leaders can redesign them to actually get work done. Drawing from her research at Stanford, her experience leading innovation labs, and insights from her book Your Best Meeting Ever, Rebecca explains why meetings are often a symptom of broken collaboration systems. The conversation explores meeting overload, calendar “doomsdays,” asynchronous work, and the growing role of AI in meetings and lead...

Kit Krugman is the SVP of People and Culture at Foursquare, where she is leading a significant shift in how the company approaches culture, performance, and organizational speed. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Kit shares how Foursquare redesigned its people systems to increase product velocity, reduce layers, and strengthen cross-functional teamwork.

She explains why performance management became the starting point for culture change, how team-based performance and organizational network analysis provide better signals of impact, and how AI is beginning to reshape coaching, feedback, and learning—and what that means for the future of pe...

Sandra Loughlin is the Chief Learning Scientist at EPAM Systems and one of the leading voices on skills, talent data, and learning science. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Sandra unpacks why so many skills and AI initiatives fall short, what organizations misunderstand about learning and behavior change, and why HR is at an inflection point. 

During the conversation, they explore the realities of building skills-based organizations, the role of tasks and context in workforce decisions, and how AI is reshaping talent, L&D, and strategic workforce planning. Sandra also shares why training alone rarely d...

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David Burkus is a Leadership and Teamwork expert, keynote speaker, and author of Best Team Ever. During this conversation, David shares key insights from his book Best Team Ever on what makes teams thrive in today’s workplace. We explore the science behind high-performing teams, the critical role of psychological safety, and why work is increasingly about collaboration. Plus, David breaks down practical strategies for leading cross-functional teams, building social capital, and fostering a culture where everyone contributes their best. 

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The Edge of Work has been exploring the role of the manager as well as the emphasis on manager development throughout its three seasons. 

During this episode, Al breaks down the role of the people manager in today’s world of work. During this episode, Al will cover:

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