Mocktails Or Messy

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By: Ryan Frankowski & Kelly Mizgorski

We've had a messy past and we'd liked to talk about. We're talking about the debauchery and the train wrecks đŸ€Ș  that led us to get out of the cycles we get stuck in 🙏 .  Let's have happy đŸ„‚ hour with mocktails, accompanied by traditional cocktails. Hosts, Ryan & Kelly explore the world of non-alcoholic innovative mocktail beverages and dive deep into finding the best brands on the market with a taste test to compare it to the real-deal cocktail. Kelly is a drinker and Ryan is a Mocktail'er. After a hiatus of 10 years these Ex's who couldn't  stand each lived in different cities, now have rec...

#64: We Were Functioning Alcoholics
 Until This Happened
Today at 11:00 AM

We thought blackout drinking was normal.
We thought “just one drink” was harmless.
We thought partying was part of success.

It almost destroyed us.

In this brutally honest episode of Mocktails or Messy, Bernie Zilio Senior Report of Page Six opens up about sobriety, LA party culture, postpartum depression, prior TMZ employment stories, cocaine culture, toxic relationships, blackouts, anxiety, and the moment everything finally changed.

From skinny spicy margaritas to getting arrested, from entertainment industry pressure to waking up hungover wondering what happened the night before
 this is the conversation people are to...


#63: Stop Playing Dress Up, Dress Like a Badass.
04/01/2026

Your clothes are talking. The question is whether they are introducing you or interrupting you.

We sit down with Julie Shields, the Scottish born force behind Badass Styling in Pittsburgh, and let the conversation go where it needs to go: identity, confidence, community, and the surprisingly emotional work of getting dressed. Julie shares her path from Scotland to London to Pittsburgh, plus the real-life stuff that shapes how we show up, from parenting teens to navigating politics and burnout without losing your sense of humor.

Then we get practical. Julie breaks down color analysis and...


#62: I Got Sober While Building a Wine Company
#62
02/04/2026

A blackout, a parked car, and the sentence that rewired everything with Jason B. Grant of Medici Importers Global.

“You’re never going to be alone again.” That line broke through the static in Jason B. Grant’s head and marked the final day he wanted to drink. From there, everything changed, his purpose, his business, and his peace.

We sit with Jason, a five-plus-year sober entrepreneur who runs Medici Importers Global, to unpack what it really takes to rewire a life. He explains why he never had “just a drinking problem,” but a thinking problem, and...


#61: Jonathan Anzaldi | Dreamers, Discipline, And Doing The Work
#61
01/28/2026

What if the hustle finally felt aligned? We sit down with personal trainer and accountability coach Jonathan Ryan Anzaldi to unpack how two lifelong dreamers traded New York’s weekend warrior cycle for a sustainable blend of strength, clarity, and self-made momentum. From first jobs and comparison traps to Laguna Beach mornings and a thriving coaching business, this is a honest look at reinvention, friendship, and the habits that stick.

Jonathan opens up about rejecting the nine-to-five, building a single-person brand through social media, and turning a quarantine ghost kitchen into a six-figure win without compromising quality. We...


#60: In the Studio with Derrial Christon
01/14/2026

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#59: The #Oaklander with Destination LA's Derrial Christon
12/16/2025

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#58: Getting Serious
10/29/2025

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#57 Bad Friends and Big Changes
10/28/2025

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#56: Zebra Striping
08/29/2025

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#55: The Northeast Ginger Gives Us a Taste Of Her Mocktail Wisdom
08/13/2025

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#54: How to Own Your Sh*t Without Losing Yourself
08/13/2025

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#53: Pleasure vs. the Patriarchy: A Lesson in Self Love with The Magnetic Woman
#53
04/17/2025

What happens when a former Catholic schoolgirl discovers that pleasure isn't sinful but sacred? Lauren Joyce, known as The Magnetic Woman, radiates confidence as she shares her journey from sign language interpreter to pleasure coach who's revolutionizing how women connect with their bodies.

Lauren's transformation began during a quarter-life crisis coinciding with her father's death. Seeking meaning, she stumbled into a personal development program that shocked her Catholic sensibilities but awakened something profound. Today, she leads a global community helping women break free from shame and conditioning that keeps them disconnected from their desires.

The...


#52: Woodstock, Car Escapes, and #IPEX Advocacy with Missy Ramirez
#52
04/09/2025

When a mother's intuition conflicts with medical opinion, lives hang in the balance. For Missy Ramirez, trusting her gut during her son's mysterious illness ultimately led to uncovering IPEX – an extremely rare autoimmune disorder affecting just 1 in 1.6 million people worldwide. Behind her N95 mask (worn to protect her immunocompromised son), Missy shares the harrowing journey from that first emergency room visit to becoming a powerhouse advocate for bone marrow registry diversity.

Unlike many immune disorders that weaken defenses, IPEX sends Jax's immune system into overdrive – a "Formula One race car" response that attacks not just infections but his...


#51: Chaos Unleashed with TikTok Royal @bran_ _flakezz
04/03/2025

When Bran Flakes first downloaded TikTok in January 2021, they were simply looking for a creative outlet during the pandemic. Friends had suggested saving Snapchat stories and uploading them to this new platform. Maybe it could even lead to reality TV someday—after all, wasn't that how casting worked now? What followed was a masterclass in turning authentic content into a thriving career.

The self-proclaimed creator of "Gay Chaos" joins us for an unfiltered conversation about the stunning financial transformation that came with embracing their unique voice. From earning $40,000 in a corporate job they found mundane to generating ov...


#50: Gregory Tells All: Cancer Survivor, HGTV Director, & How He Hired Ryan
03/20/2025

Gregory Powell brings his sharp wit and design expertise to the podcast, sharing the remarkable journey that led him from New York's television industry back to his hometown of Pittsburgh. What began as a simple complaint about facial pain during a family visit in 2018 quickly escalated to a life-changing diagnosis: stage four adenoid cystic carcinoma, an incredibly rare cancer affecting his salivary gland.

Rather than surrendering to circumstance, Gregory approached his hospital stay with characteristic flair—ordering Japanese kimonos, using vintage silverware for hospital meals, and creating a "creative deck" specifying acceptable flower arrangements for visitors. This re...


#49: Chickens, Sobriety, Birth Trauma: Revealed!
#49
03/07/2025

🎉 LIVE Episode Alert: Milestones, New Beginnings, and Real Talk! 🎉

Join us LIVE for a raw, unfiltered celebration straight from our studio! đŸ„‚ After finally hitting 10,000 followers on Instagram (we did it!), we’re popping bottles (alcoholic AND non-alcoholic, because why not?) to mark this huge milestone!

Kelly's Dream Come True đŸŒŸ: From childhood dreams to reality, Kelly shares her journey of buying her very own homestead! Chickens? Ordered. Goats? On the waitlist. 🐓🐐 Plus, she's already planning vegetable gardens and berry patches — it's the farm life she’s always wanted.

Ryan’s Year of Sobriety & Butte...


#49: Chickens, Sobriety, Kelly's Birth Trauma: Revealed!
02/27/2025

Join us LIVE for a raw, unfiltered celebration straight from our studio! đŸ„‚ After finally hitting 10,000 followers on Instagram (we did it!), we’re popping bottles (alcoholic AND non-alcoholic, because why not?) to mark this huge milestone!

Kelly's Dream Come True đŸŒŸ: From childhood dreams to reality, Kelly shares her journey of buying her very own homestead! Chickens? Ordered. Goats? On the waitlist. 🐓🐐 Plus, she's already planning vegetable gardens and berry patches — it's the farm life she’s always wanted.

Ryan’s Year of Sobriety & Butterfly Effects 🩋: Ryan dives into his evolving dating life after a year of sobriety, talking ab...


#48: Sunny Escapes & Shocking Love Interests, Damp February Has No Fizz
#48
02/12/2025

What's the secret to staying positive and productive while juggling life's adventures? Join us for a rollicking ride through our latest escapades! Ryan kicks things off with tales of his sunny Tulum trip and Kelly's hilarious spray tan mishap aimed at banishing the winter blues. We get giddy over Too Turnt Tony's bold personality and his Two Turnt Tea, and Kelly's nostalgic over his college days with twisted tea. Ryan's sipping on a passion fruit and lime spritz from AF Cocktails as we chat about mindful drinking and share our thoughts on flavors and staying upbeat in the new...


#47: Step Into Curated Chaos: From Cannabis T-Breaks to Cringe Confessions, Leading to Cosmic Growth!
02/05/2025

Ever wondered what it's like to take a break from cannabis and rediscover its magic? Our guests, Michael Rozzi and Keisha, share their experiences of a tolerance break and how it led them to savor the unique flavors of cannabis-infused beverages like spicy mango and blueberry once more. Together, we journey to Honcho, a vibrant queer festival in Pennsylvania, painted vividly as a liberating adult summer camp where art, music, and uninhibited self-expression reign supreme. Michael and Keisha's accounts make you feel the rhythm of freedom, inviting you to embrace an atmosphere where acceptance is the norm and new...


#46: Behind the Curtain of ONLYFANS with Dominic Hill
#46
01/29/2025

What if your journey to self-discovery involved a little bartending flair and a lot of online creativity? Join us as Dominic Hill, our captivating guest, shares candid insights into his transformation from high school days to the confident performer and content creator he is today. With laughter and nostalgia, we revisit those formative years and the evolution of LGBTQ+ acceptance, celebrating Dominic's glow-up and his bold venture into OnlyFans, where art and allure seamlessly blend.

As we navigate the highs and lows of embracing one's identity, Dominic reveals the critical role of confidence and supportive friendships in...


#45: Blake Lively's Set Struggles & Ryan's Sobriety Milestone
01/17/2025

Why would someone as powerful as Blake Lively tolerate unprofessional behavior on set? Join us as we tackle this question and many others in a rollercoaster episode filled with candid conversations and surprising twists. We celebrate our dear friend Ryan's incredible milestone—one year of sobriety—with laughter and a quest for the perfect non-alcoholic red wine. Just as the toasts and tales of triumph flow, an unexpected visit from Ryan's ex, Stephanie, spices up our celebration in ways we never anticipated.

The drama doesn't stop there. We confront pressing issues in Hollywood, discussing troubling allegations surrounding Just...


#44: Lap Dances, Jealous Exes & Our Wildest Night Out
12/21/2024

Ever received a lap dance with your best friend? We did, and let us tell you, it was an unforgettable experience that pushed our boundaries in the most unexpected ways. Our night at the strip club was more than just a wild adventure; it was a journey into the dynamics of comfort zones and friendship. As we navigated through initial nerves and embraced the surprises that came our way, we found ourselves laughing at the awkwardness and cherishing the growth of our supportive bond.

Obsessive jealousy, anyone? We're tackling “Rebecca Syndrome” — that intense, often irrational jealousy towards a part...


#43: From Breakdancing to Beekeeping: How a Event Entertainer Became a Global Success & Lives His Dream
#43
12/15/2024

Join Howard Mincone as he shares his incredible transformation from growing up in Pittsburgh’s steel city to making it in Hollywood. In this lively conversation, Howard reveals how he navigated his thick Pittsburgh accent, his unexpected path to beekeeping, and how these buzzing creatures became a source of healing—especially for veterans with PTSD. Along the way, he shares hilarious stories from his journey, including skateboarding, breakdancing, and performing on stage.

Tune in for a mix of Pittsburgh history, personal growth, and a lot of laughs. You won’t want to miss this inspiring and heartfelt episod...


#42: Surviving the “Feast & Fuck It” Season: How Daylight Savings Wrecks Your Mental Health.
11/29/2024

This episode will have you contemplating the shift in seasons, the impact of daylight saving time, and how these changes can affect our moods and well-being. Jane shares personal stories about life transformations, including a journey to sobriety, and how commitment to self-care can be crucial, especially during the temptation-laden holiday season. We explore the transition from youthful indulgence to a health-focused lifestyle, celebrating small victories along the way, like reaching sobriety milestones.

As the days grow shorter and colder, we tackle the seasonal blues head-on by offering practical strategies to maintain a positive mindset. From consistent...


#41: Soberish & Social: Redefining Drinking with Amethyst’s Jane
#41
11/11/2024

Do you know what it means to truly embrace a "soberish" lifestyle? Join us as we chat with Jane, the dynamic brand ambassador for Amethyst, who shares her journey from the bustling liquor industry to becoming a passionate advocate for non-alcoholic alternatives. Discover how Amethyst, with its new watermelon lime flavor, is reshaping social gatherings with its botanical charm. Jane opens up about her personal evolution towards mindful drinking, weighing in on how a balanced approach to alcohol can transform energy levels and wellness. 

Our conversation takes a reflective turn as we recount personal stories of past d...


#40 Why You Should Think Twice Before Starting a Business with Friends + MUKBANG
10/31/2024

Ever wondered how to enjoy a social gathering without the dreaded hangover? Join us as we mix things up with Kelly, aka Mocktail Messy, Miss Mizgorski, and Ryan Frankowski (Frank-Kov-Ski) for a journey into the vibrant world of mindful drinking. Together, we sip on Amethyst, a tantalizing liquor alternative featuring lemon, cucumber, and serrano, guaranteed to tickle your palate. With a dash of humor and candid storytelling, we also flirt with the idea of a Mukbang segment that promises to be as entertaining as it is delicious. This episode serves up refreshing insights into experiencing the joys of life...


#39 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show Recap + Ghostly Emotional Breakdowns
#39
10/25/2024

Ever tried sipping on a Midnight Margarita while pondering life’s little messes? That’s exactly what we got up to in this episode of Mocktails Or Messy, as we spun tales of cocktails mixed with spooky flavors like blood orange and pomegranate juice. We spilled the beans about the reality of our friendship through the ages, alongside hilarious misadventures in organization. And yes, we even dared to tackle the appearance pressures of modern life—Botox, hair extensions, and all—while sharing a hard-learned lesson: haunted places are best left unbothered unless you’re truly ready for their ghostly consequenc...


#38 Serial Killers: Dahmer, Gacy, Bundy & Zodiac – Drinks of Choice
#38
10/09/2024

What if the chilling world of serial killers was intertwined with the seemingly mundane act of drinking? Join us as we navigate through the eerie tales of Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy, exploring how alcohol blurred lines of sanity for these notorious murderers. The unsettling reality of Dahmer's heinous crimes and Gacy’s terrifying “killer clown” persona will leave you questioning how such darkness can exist beneath a facade of normalcy. Our discussion takes us deeper into the spine-chilling mystery of the Zodiac Killer, whose cryptic messages continue to haunt the public. 

This episode doesn't stop at true...


#37: P Diddy's Dark Secrets Unraveled: Trafficking & Celeb Silence
#37
10/02/2024

Could the music industry’s kingpin, Sean Combs aka P Diddy, really be caught in a web of crime and scandal? Join us on "Mocktails Or Messy" as we unpack the earth-shattering charges of trafficking, racketeering, and more that have landed him in hot water. With the shocking police raid details, including the discovery of a rollercoaster of revelations that threatens to dismantle his once-unassailable image. All this, while we sip on an Olipop crisp apple drink to keep things refreshingly real.

We peel back the layers of secrecy in the music industry, casting a spotlight on th...


#36: Too Far, Too Fast: When Sarcasm, Feels Like Roasting
#36
09/25/2024

Ever wondered what it takes to truly transform your grocery game and navigate the tricky waters of modern relationships? We start this episode of "Mocktails Or Messy" with a lighthearted apology and a playful roast of a new mustache look, setting the tone for a mix of humor and heartfelt conversation. Sip along with us as we introduce our chosen beverages—Barvis Brewing Company's Pumpkin Dark and Sam Adams Octoberfest—and debate the virtues of ditching Whole Foods for the more budget-friendly, but equally delightful, Trader Joe's. Plus, we chat about the highs and lows of buying seasonal produce for...


#35: Paralympic-Olympic Power Couple & Gen Z Trends
#35
09/18/2024

Have you ever found yourself clueless about your local senators while sipping on a trendy energy drink? Well, we did, and it led to some hilarious banter on this episode of "Mocktails Or Messy!" Join Kelly and Ryan as they recount their hilarious (and sometimes embarrassing) experiences with cocktails, including Kelly's unforgettable first dirty martini. We also touch on the surprising ways Pittsburgh's heat wave has impacted our wardrobe choices and share some light-hearted thoughts on keeping client confidentiality in our real estate ventures.

What do personal preferences about nudity, bathrobes, and the Paralympics have in common...


#34: Friend Betrayal, Rebel Mormon, Seasons of Breakups
09/11/2024

Have brunch plans ever led you into a deep conversation about life's unexpected turns? Join us as we kick things off with some lighthearted chatter about our fall brunch plans and the cozy vibes of the season. We get real about navigating the emotional aftermath of a breakup and how the changing seasons can amplify those feelings. You won't want to miss our nostalgic trip down memory lane, remembering a hilarious incident with a bottle of bubbles, and our shared enthusiasm for the ever-shifting real estate market.

Family and friendships take center stage in our next segment...