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On Masters of Scale, iconic business leaders share lessons and strategies that have helped them grow the world's most fascinating companies. Founders, CEOs, and dynamic innovators join candid conversations about their triumphs and challenges with a set of luminary hosts, including founding host Reid Hoffman (LinkedIn co-founder and Greylock partner). From navigating early prototypes to expanding brands globally, Masters of Scale provides priceless insights to help anyone grow their dream enterprise.

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Thriving in chaos: top leaders’ strategies from Masters of Scale Summit
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Today at 10:00 AM

A decade ago, Bob Safian wrote about Generation Flux, the people built to thrive amid constant change. Today, he says, we all belong to it, whether we want to or not. In this live segment from Masters of Scale Summit 2026, Safian gathers leaders from across business, tech, and media to work out what that takes, in real time. Former U.S. Chief Data Scientist DJ Patil opens with a double pendulum and a lesson in chaos theory. Raina Kumra, who now manages a team of 12 AI agents, explains why there is no keeping up, only keeping calm. Upwork’s Ha...


Reed Hastings on Hollywood’s future, Netflix’s shakeup and knowing when to leave
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Last Saturday at 9:00 AM

After nearly 30 years building Netflix, co-founder and former chairman Reed Hastings stepped down from the board of directors this past June. His departure came at a tumultuous time in Hollywood and at Netflix itself. On top of the fallout from its failed bid to buy Warner Bros. Discovery, Netflix has also been struggling with stagnating engagement and slowing revenue growth, prompting a big C-Suite shakeup and a mass layoff earlier this month. In this episode of On with Kara Swisher, Swisher talks to Hastings live on stage at Masters of Scale Summit 2026, discussing Netflix’s future and why Reed re...


Maria Ressa on how to save democracy from Big Tech
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Last Thursday at 9:00 AM

When truth is under attack, how do you fight back? Nobel Peace Prize-winning journalist Maria Ressa has spent years confronting disinformation and political pressure through her news organization, Rappler. In conversation with Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, Ressa explores the crises facing truth, accountability, and democracy, and what we can do to help defend them.

Her new book is The Fight Back: A Citizen's Guide to Standing Up to Dictators. 

This conversation was recorded live as part of Masters of Scale Summit on October 21, 2026 at the Presidio Theatre in San Francisco.

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Eric Schmidt scores US vs. China: who’s winning the AI race?
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10/27/2026

The AI race between the US and China is the defining competition of our age. Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google, advisor to the Pentagon, and current CEO of Relativity Space joins Rapid Response live from Masters of Scale Summit to give his most unvarnished assessment yet. He reveals that the gap he once estimated at two years has narrowed to six months. Schmidt also takes on the open source question that’s keeping Silicon Valley up at night, explains why kicking China’s best PhD students out of the country is one of America’s dumbest own goals, and sh...


Reid Hoffman and OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar on where AI goes from here
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10/22/2026

Few companies have as much influence over AI’s trajectory as OpenAI. Reid Hoffman sits down with CFO Sarah Friar to understand the precipice of the moment we are in and the decisions that could shape what comes next for each of us.

This conversation was recorded live as part of Masters of Scale Summit on October 21, 2026, at the Presidio Theatre in San Francisco.

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REI’s secrets to sustaining a beloved brand and touching grass
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10/20/2026

REI has been around for 88 years. Mary Beth Laughton wants to make sure it’s around for 88 more. The CEO of America’s largest consumer co-op joins Rapid Response to talk about what it actually takes to revive an iconic business — without shareholders, without quarterly earnings calls, and with 26 million members who hold you to a higher standard than any Wall Street analyst ever could. She explains why her first act as CEO was to publicly break ties with a Trump cabinet secretary, and how the co-op structure gives REI a kind of clarity that most retailers can’t buy. Plu...


Rich Roll’s ‘crash course’ in entrepreneurship
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10/15/2026

Rich Roll’s popular podcast recently passed 1,000 episodes. He sat down with host Jeff Berman to discuss his growing podcast network, why he’s ignoring the algorithm, and his tumultuous path from addiction to wellness and endurance athletics. 

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The AI race to save American science and reshape medicine forever
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10/13/2026

Renee Wegrzyn spent her career building the future of American science — including ARPA-H, the White House agency created to accelerate health breakthroughs. Then the Trump administration showed her the door. Wegrzyn co-founded Transfyr to tackle what she calls one of the most overlooked issues in science: the magic hands problem. She joins Rapid Response to explain why fixing this unglamorous bottleneck is the prerequisite for everything AI promises to deliver in medicine, what the federal funding cuts are really costing science, and why she can feel the next Sputnik moment coming — even if she can’t quite name it yet.<...


Pioneers of AI: OpenAI’s Tibo Sottiaux doesn’t want humans to be an ‘afterthought’
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10/10/2026

Thibault “Tibo” Sottiaux is OpenAI’s head of Product & Platform, making him responsible for the AI tools used by more than a billion users worldwide. Rana el Kaliouby spoke with Tibo on Pioneers of AI about why he’s “proud” OpenAI delayed its latest Astra model over safety concerns, the new suite of agentic products released at DevDay, and what it’s like to lead inside a frontier AI company in this extraordinary moment in history. 

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Building a marketplace from scratch, with Hipcamp founder Alyssa Ravasio
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10/08/2026

Alyssa Ravasio loves using ‘coyote trickster energy’ to get more people to put down their technology. Her camping marketplace, Hipcamp, has grown into the largest source for booking campsites on public and private land. She talks with host Jeff Berman about scaling the company, learning to prioritize your health as a founder, and more. 

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Kalshi vs. Everyone: Co-Founder Luana Lopes Lara on the lawsuits and the long game
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10/06/2026

Prediction markets incentivize truth. Everything else incentivizes clickbait. That's the core argument Luana Lopes Lara makes for Kalshi — the prediction market platform she co-founded that has gone from $5 billion to $22 billion in valuation in under a year, and is now being sued by New York's attorney general for $36 billion. Luana joins Rapid Response to make the case that Kalshi is fundamentally different from DraftKings — even though 75% of its volume is sports — explain why George Santos got banned for trying to trade on his own congressional attendance, and share what Kalshi's data actually says about the midterms. Plus the Timothée Chala...


Don't be boring: KCRW's Jennifer Ferro on building a brand people love
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10/01/2026

Jennifer Ferro is the former board chair of NPR and president of Southern California’s iconic public radio organization: KCRW. Ferro talks with host Jeff Berman about how nearly two decades as the founder’s deputy taught her to lead, why she thinks we deserve a better internet, and how the best defense of getting ignored is simple: Don’t be boring.

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Halloween meets GLP-1s: Hershey’s candy Super Bowl, with CEO Kirk Tanner
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09/29/2026

The second a brand like Hershey stops being culturally relevant, says its CEO Kirk Tanner, you should be worried. He joins Rapid Response to explain exactly what he's doing to make sure that never happens. Tanner also reveals why GLP-1 users are actually good for the candy business, how AI is now routing Hershey's sales force in real time through Target and Walmart, and why the Reese's Oreo collaboration (which generated $100 million in its first five months) is the model for how iconic brands find new energy. And with a major Hollywood film about Milton Hershey coming this fall...


Rapid Response: Stop creating businesses. Buy one instead, with Codie Sanchez
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09/26/2026

Own or be owned. That's Codie Sanchez's ultimatum for anyone serious about their financial future. The founder of Contrarian Thinking and author of the new book Own or Be Owned returns to Rapid Response to make her most impassioned case yet for why buying a small business is the most reliable path to wealth that most people are too scared to take. She breaks down what "cowboying" your business is costing you, and why AI isn’t a shortcut for everyone, but instead an accelerator for what's already inside you. Plus, the industries she'd invest in right now, and wh...


How to build a billion-dollar sports team from scratch, with Golden State Valkyries’ Jess Smith
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09/24/2026

When Jess Smith became employee number one for the Bay Area’s WNBA expansion team, the future was a blank slate. Now, the Golden State Valkyries brand is boasting a unicorn valuation in just its second season. Smith talks with host Jeff Berman about building the brand from scratch, the rise of women’s professional sports, and why so many women in the C-Suite are former athletes. 

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Rebranding in a war zone, with Prosper Global (formerly Mercy Corps)
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09/22/2026

The world has never faced so many humanitarian crises at once, and the systems built to respond to them are fraying. Tjada McKenna, CEO of Prosper Global — the organization long known as Mercy Corps — joins Rapid Response during UN General Assembly week to share what she's seeing firsthand from Syria to Sudan to Ukraine to Gaza, and why she rebranded a 40-year-old institution in the middle of a funding crisis rather than in spite of one. She explains how the Strait of Hormuz conflict is quietly writing next year's food shortages into fragile countries right now, why Russia's playbook of a...


Brené Brown & Reid Hoffman on the skills every leader needs now
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09/17/2026

Author and researcher Brené Brown joined host Reid Hoffman on stage last year in San Francisco for the 2025 Masters of Scale Summit. She reveals insights about how to lead courageously, the underrated skills leaders need to thrive, and why compassion is essential for success – even if it’s currently being crowded out of the zeitgeist. 

For more conversations like this, join us at this year’s Masters of Scale Summit, coming up October 20-22 in San Francisco.

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Let’s Kill Sh*t: Axios CEO on simplifying your work-life in the AI era
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09/15/2026

AI isn't simplifying your life… Yet. It's mass-producing more options, more decisions, and more noise. Axios CEO Jim VandeHei returns to Rapid Response to make the case that the antidote isn't a better productivity app, it's a ruthless, three-part system he calls Confront, Delete, Amplify. VandeHei shares what he's learned from running Axios by these principles, including calling a leadership meeting with the subject heading "Let's Kill S***," and why he shuttered the Axios app despite years of internal resistance. He also reveals his candid read on the midterms and what they mean for business, the data center backlash he...


Rapid Response: On's 16-year overnight success: Zendaya, Federer, and outrunning competition
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09/12/2026

On built a $4 billion sports brand in 16 years with a garden hose, a Roger Federer dinner in Zurich, and a young designer who watched a Halloween YouTube video. Co-founder and co-CEO David Allemann joins Rapid Response to explain why the defining decade for On is still ahead, and why being the most premium brand matters more than being the biggest. He breaks down the leadership shake-up that brought him back into a CEO role, and what the first-of-its-kind LightSpray robotic process says about On’s innovation philosophy. Allemann also makes the case for why the "movement class" is replacing th...


From high school dropout to CEO, with Autodesk’s Andrew Anagnost
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09/10/2026

Autodesk is the massive public software company at the heart of designing almost everything around you, from cars to buildings to video games. CEO Andrew Anagnost talks with host Jeff Berman about why he first joined a “rebel” group at the company, how he battled for the top job, and why he thinks leading with empathy is smart business.

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NFL Kickoff: the science gets more damning, but the money keeps growing
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09/08/2026

The NFL is the world's most valuable sports business, and it keeps growing. But is the growth sustainable? Sports journalist Michele Steele joins Rapid Response to kick off the 2026-2027 NFL season with a clear-eyed look at what's driving record franchise valuations, why quarterback salaries keep exploding, and what the league's dizzying array of streaming platforms means for the fans. She also breaks down the NFL's deliberate "Helmets Off" strategy to grow its female audience, the business calculus behind nine international games this season, and whether the Bears are really leaving Chicago. Plus the uncomfortable CTE question that won't...


Angela Duckworth on why grit isn’t enough
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09/03/2026

With the highly anticipated follow up to her bestseller “Grit”, psychologist and author Angela Duckworth offers a new framework for achieving excellence. She talks with host Jeff Berman about why making even small changes to your situation is the precursor to success. 

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When AI agents do your shopping, everything changes, with Shopify’s Jess Hertz
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09/01/2026

For decades, e-commerce rewarded the biggest brands who could buy their way to the top of search results. AI is changing that. Shopify COO Jess Hertz joins Rapid Response to share what Shopify's data reveals about the agentic shopping revolution in real time, and how the company is building the infrastructure layer that makes products discoverable and purchasable by AI. Plus, why Shopify's engineers can spend freely on AI tokens while the rest of the business world agonizes over ROI, and what it looks like when a company powering over 14% of online shopping decides to win the future or...


Pioneers of AI: Designing AI for people and the planet, with Aza Raskin
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08/29/2026

AI is rapidly changing what it means to be human, but is AI development truly human-centered? According to Aza Raskin, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, the answer is largely “no.” The man who invented the “infinite scroll” is now working to understand why the most powerful technology so often fails to prioritize the human experience and our collective well-being. Raskin is also leading the Earth Species Project — using AI to better understand the animals that live alongside us, by unlocking patterns in vast amounts of data on animal communication. He joins Pioneers of AI to talk about both of th...


Chicago Fed President on inflation, recession, and Trump’s attacks
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08/27/2026

The economy is strong, prices are still too high, and the job market is sending mixed signals. The Federal Reserve is navigating all of it while fending off the most overt political pressure in its modern history. Austan Goolsbee, President of the Chicago Fed, joins Rapid Response ahead of the Central Bank’s highly-watched meeting in Jackson Hole, to give his most candid read on what's actually going on. He explains why tariffs, war in the Middle East, and six years above the 2% inflation target make this the most dangerous inflation environment he's seen, what Kevin Warsh's new leadership me...


Ford's Jim Farley on beating China, and the storm nobody sees coming
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08/25/2026

With the ongoing disruption in the Strait of Hormuz and fuel prices still elevated, few auto executives are feeling the pressure more acutely than Ford Motor Company CEO Jim Farley. He joins Rapid Response to give a candid account of what the turmoil means for the auto industry, and for an iconic American brand navigating one of the most turbulent moments in its history. Farley gets frank about the China threat reshaping the global auto business, and his frustration with Ford's own ingenuity. Plus, why Ford is back in Formula One, and why Farley sees a storm gathering in...


How Barnes & Noble made a comeback, with CEO James Daunt
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08/20/2026

CEO James Daunt has now rescued two iconic bookstore chains: Barnes & Noble and Waterstones. He joins host Jeff Berman to discuss the turnarounds, plus how bookstores are preparing for an onslaught of AI-written content, his BookTok strategy, and why local control is the key to making great bookstores. 

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What the jobs report isn't telling you about AI & the workforce, with Upwork’s Hayden Brown
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08/18/2026

Few leaders have a better real-time read on how AI is actually reshaping the workforce than Hayden Brown. As CEO of Upwork, the platform where 18 million freelancers meet the businesses that need them, she sees what the monthly jobs report can't: which skills are surging, which jobs are quietly disappearing, and why 23% of businesses that moved work to AI are already bringing humans back. Brown joins Rapid Response to share what she's actually seeing on the ground, why she refused to blame AI when she laid off a quarter of Upwork's staff, and what the data says about the...


Pioneers of AI: Why AI conversations are always one-sided
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08/15/2026

Is it possible for us to ever wholeheartedly trust a machine the way we would a human? According to Charles Duhigg, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and New York Times bestselling author of The Power of Habit and Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection, the answer is no. And that’s what stops us from being able to emotionally connect with AI chatbots.

In this episode of Pioneers of AI, host Rana el Kaliouby and Duhigg dissect what's really happening when people confide in ChatGPT and why real connection depends on reciprocity and vulnerability, two things AI...


Know which rules to break, with MTV co-founder Tom Freston
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08/13/2026

Tom Freston is a cofounder of MTV and former CEO of Viacom. He joined host Jeff Berman to dig into the wild stories and meaningful lessons from his life as an unconventional corporate leader. Freston reveals how MTV’s audience-first mentality and “subway car” approach to hiring helped the network scale into a cultural icon. 

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Rapid Recap: Google’s exodus, Spider-Man’s odyssey, Taco “Hell”, and more
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08/11/2026

What’s the business story of the summer thus far? SpaceX’s stumble post-IPO? AI security breaches? Ongoing tension surrounding the Strait of Hormuz? Host Bob Safian sits down with Rapid Response producer Alex Morris to weigh in. The pair also break down the impact of Uber COO Andrew Macdonald’s appearance on the podcast, and how it sparked a broader conversation throughout the business world about AI spending. Plus, leadership lessons forged in the fire of FIFA’s privatization play, Kalshi’s New York lawsuit, and the BTS boycott of The Grammy’s.

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Always be the challenger, with Savannah Bananas founder Jesse Cole
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08/06/2026

Jesse Cole loved baseball. He also knew most people thought it was too long and boring. So he disrupted America’s pastime by putting on a yellow tux - and an incredible show. The founder of the Savannah Bananas welcomed host Jeff Berman to Anaheim Stadium before a show recently to talk about how he’s scaling Fans First Entertainment into a growing league that sells out pro sports stadiums all over the country.

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The new rules of brand building, with Wieden+Kennedy CEO
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08/04/2026

For decades, Wieden+Kennedy has defined the brands that shape culture. Now, as economic uncertainty, AI, and shifting consumer expectations rewrite the rules of business, CEO Neal Arthur joins Rapid Response to break down why understanding your audience is no longer just the marketing team's job. Arthur shares what today's most successful brands are getting right and how leaders can better understand the culture that moves their customers. He also takes us behind the scenes of Nike's headline-making World Cup campaign, its emotional New York Knicks spot, and what’s at stake for the future of creativity in business. 

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How to beef up your business, with ButcherBox CEO Mike Salguero
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07/30/2026

After his first VC-backed business flopped, ButcherBox CEO and founder Mike Salguero turned lessons learned the hard way into the fuel that built his subscription meat delivery business. Salguero joined host Jeff Berman to reveal how a blend of clean ingredients, clever marketing, and hiring for grit helped him scale into a business that’s now making more than $600M a year and expanding into retail nationwide. 

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Serena Williams on winning in business
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07/28/2026

Serena Williams doesn't just defy convention on the court. She’s also applying her competitive mindset to entrepreneurship and venture investing, recently rebranding her firm from Serena Ventures to StarFire Ventures. Serena joins Bob Safian to discuss how she identified the 16 unicorns now in her portfolio, what she looks for in founders, and how partnerships with companies from Nike to Ro fit into her broader vision. Recorded live at the Reckitt Catalyst event in Palm Beach, Serena also opens up about balancing business with family life—and why she still feels the pull of the tennis court.

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Possible: Satya Nadella on making human and token capital compound
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07/25/2026

In this recent episode of Possible, Reid Hoffman sits down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella fresh off Microsoft Build 2026. The conversation goes wide: how AI is reshaping work, business, and society—and why the transformation sweeping through software development today is only a preview of what's coming for all knowledge work. Satya makes the case that human capital and "token capital" are now deeply intertwined, that companies—not just countries—must build their own AI capabilities, and that the organizations best positioned to thrive are those that can leverage their unique expertise inside intelligent systems. Reid and Satya also explor...


Author Jim Collins on unlocking your potential
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07/23/2026

Jim Collins is the author of some of the most important business books of all time, like Good to Great and Built to Last. For his latest project, instead of profiling iconic companies, he zoomed in on extraordinary individuals we can learn from. He joined host Jeff Berman to reveal how icons like Grace Hopper and John Glenn illustrate lessons on how to navigate the cliffs and fog of life. 

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Delta's Ed Bastian on spiking fuel, summer travel, and a blunt reality check on AI
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07/21/2026

Few companies have a better real-time read on the American economy than Delta, and few CEOs are more willing to say what they actually think. Ed Bastian returns to Rapid Response to share what Delta's booking data is telling him that the headlines aren't, why he's not convinced by AI until it moves his top line, and how he decided to yank congressional travel perks during the government shutdown. He also explains what it takes to stay optimistic when fuel costs are spiking, the Strait of Hormuz is in the news, and the world keeps finding new ways to...


Build better relationships at work
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07/16/2026

Therapist Esther Perel wants us all to build stronger relationships at work. Her coveted advice is the centerpiece of her books, TED talks and podcast “Where Should We Begin?” During the pandemic, she launched a conversational card game. In 2025, she joined host Jeff Berman to talk about why she released another edition, Where Should We Begin? At Work, designed specifically for coworkers. They also go deep on why stronger relational intelligence is essential for businesses, how AI is rewiring our brains, and more.

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The quiet reinvention of a $42b business, with Canva’s Cameron Adams
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07/14/2026

In the last year, Canva redefined itself from the ground up. Co-founder and Chief Product Officer Cameron Adams joins Rapid Response live from the Cannes Lions festival to explain why the so-called SaaSpocalypse never kept him up at night, how Canva shifted from a design company to an AI company without losing what made it great, and why being only 1% of the way there is actually the most exciting place to be. Adams also shares the specific steps anyone can take to get real impact from AI tools rather than just falling down the rabbit hole, and makes the...