The Necessary Conversation
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Election Interference
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it’s Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou. Bob is still out recovering but he sent in a video rant about Trump’s election interference in Alaska that we watch together on air.
🗳️ With the midterms days away, Trump’s DOJ is suing to overturn election results before the elections even happen. In Alaska, the DOJ asked a federal judge to block certification of the Senate race — but only if the Republican loses. Trump said the quiet part out loud: “I’m the one that said do it.” In California, the DOJ sued to sto...
Midterm Issues
In this midweek episode Chad, Haley and Mary Lou discuss what are the most important issues in the upcoming midterm election as well as what anyone can believe when it comes to right wing propaganda.
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Katie Zacharia Out After 5 Days
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it’s just Chad and Mary Lou. Haley is off galavanting again and Bob is still recovering. We miss you both. ❤️
🇷🇺 Trump signed an order waiving sanctions on Russia days before they were set to take effect — right after agreeing to buy Putin’s diesel. Ukraine says Musk’s Starlink restrictions have left them unable to intercept Russian drones killing civilians. Zelensky called the deal “wrong” and said he’s done with Trump. Even Republicans pushed back — Thom Tillis called it “beyond irresponsible” and John Cornyn said “Lindsey would be appalled.” We ask Mary Lou: d...
Midterms
In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou discuss the upcoming midterms and Chad shows Mary Lou some clips of the candidates running for office in Mary Lou's home state of Oklahoma.
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Public Executions
This week on The Necessary Conversation we discuss:
☠️ Trump and Hegseth announced they’re going to execute a man by firing squad and livestream it on the internet for anyone to watch — including children. The execution of former Army Maj. Nidal Hasan is scheduled for December 3rd, just in time for Christmas. It would be the first U.S. military execution since 1961. The only countries that still do public executions? Afghanistan, Yemen, North Korea, and Somalia. After massive backlash, Trump started flip-flopping — one day after approving the plan. We ask Mary Lou: are public executions Christian...
Special Guest: Dr. Steve Hassan
On this special Friday episode Mary Lou, Haley and Chad are joined by Dr. Steven Hassan, author of The Cult of Trump.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultexpert/
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A Small Price To Pay
In this midweek episode Chad, Haley and Mary Lou discuss Trump's recent comments seeming to advocate for Iran to destroy two major U.S. cities including Los Angeles where Chad lives.
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A Fine School
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley and Mary Lou discuss the week's politics. Plus we just appeared on Katy Tur's show on MS NOW this week, so we talk about that too.
🤦 Trump weighed in on the Cornell University gang rape case — by expressing sympathy for the accused. After Governor Hochul appointed AG Letitia James as special prosecutor to reopen the case, Trump said, "I feel badly for whoever she's looking at, because they won't get a fair shake. Cornell's a fine school, and I'm sure they'll do what's right." He attacked James as "c...
The Cornell Seven
In this midweek episode Chad, Haley and Mary Lou discuss the situation regarding the sexual assault of a student by 7 fellow students at Cornell University in 2024 and what role Donald Trump plays in perpetuating an atmosphere of sexual violence without repercussion in contemporary America.
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Trump Loves China
This week on The Necessary Conversation Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou dig into the following topics, with a special appearance by Bob late in the episode.
🇨🇳 American Dictator Donald Trump rolled out the red carpet for Chinese Dictator Xi Jinping — forcing U.S. service members onto their hands and knees to smooth the carpet — then hosted a lavish state dinner with billionaire tech overlords. This from the man who said in 2015 he'd give Xi "a McDonald's hamburger" and told Fox News to "forget the state dinners — that cost a fortune." The visit produced zero tangible results. Chi...
Mary Lou's X's
In this midweek episode Chad takes Mary Lou through a website made by a member of the Necessary Conversation community that lists all of her "X's" against Trump to see if a visual representation of over 40's issues helps get her closer to finally denouncing him.
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Trump Bans Press From The Whitehouse
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad is joined by Haley and Mary Lou, who are together in Oklahoma. Bob is still out recovering.
🚫 Authoritarian Dictator Donald Trump banned CNN, MS NOW, and Politico from the White House, confiscating reporters' press badges — something not even Nixon did during Watergate. Trump offered no specific examples of "fake news" and said the ban could be lifted if outlets provide more favorable coverage of him. No Republicans spoke out against it. We ask Mary Lou: is freedom of the press important?
🏛️ A federal judge ruled again that Trump...
Kash Patel's Stance On Bestiality
In this mid-week episode Chad and Mary Lou show one another clips from across the aisle that address a wide range of topics including Kash Patel's public support of bestiality, Mitch Mcconnell's return to public and Mamdani and AOC's behavior at the 911 memorial service.
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Trump Sleeps While America Mourns
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it's Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou. Bob is still out recovering.
💵 Trump held the first-ever midterm convention in Dallas, dubbed "Trump-a-palooza," where he promised every American adult $5,000 if Republicans win the midterms — a pledge that would cost $1.2 trillion with zero details on how it would be funded. He claimed the arena was "sold out" despite thousands of empty seats and even asked people not to use the bathroom so photos wouldn't show the gaps. He also asked the audience to raise their right hands and pledge an oath — not to the...
Special Guest: Beto O'Rourke
Haley, Mary Lou and Chad have a conversation with Texas Democrat Beto O'rourke in which they discuss his run for President in 2020, current issues with voting in America, gun control and much more. Will Mary Lou like Beto as much as she likes Hasan Piker?
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Mamdani
Mary Lou and Chad show each clips from opposite sides of the aisle pertaining to 911 and Mamdani's first 9 months as Mayor of New York City.
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How Close Is Trump To Dying?
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it's Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou. Bob is still out recovering but getting better. We miss you, Dad. ❤️
🤒 How close is Trump to death? Photos from a White House Rose Garden dinner went viral showing Trump sweating excessively and looking visibly ill — the latest in a long string of swollen ankles, bruised hands, and constantly falling asleep on camera. Then two days later he stepped off a plane with freshly dyed brown hair in what appears to be a desperate attempt to look younger. We ask Mom: does she think Tru...
J.D. Vance Says He's Okay With Ushering In The End Times
Mary Lou and Chad dig into clips from JD Vance’s recent appearance on a podcast in which he said he is willing to usher in the biblical end times.
Clips From Today’s Show:
Mary Lou’s Clips:
El-Sayed: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DcuI3jTP0Qa/
Children Saved: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DcuODpYu877/
Chad’s Clips:
JD Vance on Endtimes: https://www.instagram.com/p/DcxKnu...
Trump Tries To Rename Lake Ontario
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it's just Chad and Mary Lou holding it down. Bob is still out recovering — getting better every day — and Haley is off galavanting again.
🇨🇦 Trump escalated his trade war with Canada, slapping 50% tariffs on roughly $20 billion in Canadian goods with more levies on vehicles and steel coming January 1. Canada matched it "dollar for dollar, rate for rate" and pledged CA$7.5 billion to support affected workers. Then Trump signed an executive order to rename Lake Ontario "Lake America." Canada's response? Their leaders called Trump a "loser," a "dictator," and the "king of ba...
Project 2025 Plans For America's Food Supply
In this midweek episode Mary Lou and Chad show each other clips from opposite sides of the political spectrum including clips about Iran threatening Baron Trump's life and clips about how the current food problems in the U.S. are all part of the republican playbook.
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Trump Is Slaughtering Horses
This week on The Necessary Conversation, it's Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou. Bob is still out but getting stronger every day — we're hoping to have him back soon. Hang in there, Dad. ❤️
🐴 A New York Times investigation revealed Trump's Bureau of Land Management has sold over 6,300 federally protected wild horses — many for as little as $25 — to buyers who appear to be slaughterhouses or brokers flipping them for meat. That's more than double the historic average. Once sold, the horses lose all federal protection. We ask Mom how she feels about Trump selling America's wild horses for slaughter...
What Does Maga Still Like About Trump?
In this midweek episode, Chad and Mary Lou play clips for one another from the opposite side of the aisle as Chad asks Mary Lou what she still likes about Trump. These are the clips:
Newsmax/Truth Social Abortion Clip: https://www.instagram.com/reels/Db7YA1hjllm/
Trump’s Effect On Venezuela Clip: https://www.facebook.com/reel/961406986355625
U.S. Military Mocks Trump Clip: https://www.instagram.com/p/DcG_a3FJ-ta/
Liz Oyer on Todd Blanche Cl...
Lost At Sea
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou dig into the biggest political issues of the past 7 days.
🚢 The USS Abraham Lincoln has been at sea for over 260 days — more than 200 without a port call — the longest continuous deployment in modern history. Reports describe exhaustion, rationed food, suicidal thoughts, and at least one sailor who attempted to jump to his death. Nearly 200 family members confronted Navy leadership in San Diego over conditions and fears their loved ones will harm themselves. When asked if the deployment was too long, Trump said it hadn't been ne...
Trump's Cowardly Escape
In this midweek show, Chad and Mary Lou show each other clips about Fauci, Blanche, Trump's Catering Cart Escape and more.
Fauci and miscarriages: https://www.instagram.com/reels/Db6HlTExyJL/
AOC Freezing Her Eggs: https://www.instagram.com/reels/Db7NckwOKmX/
U.S. Marine Freed: https://www.tiktok.com/@abcworldnews/video/7672954148240755981?_r=1&_t=ZT-98ovJYxXJCo
Todd Blanche's First Act as AG: https://www.instagram.com/p/Db6or5OPPjt/
Trumps Cowardly Escape: https://www.instagram.com/p/Db5d2b5pKnO/
Trump's response: https...
Todd Blanche Confirmation Means Trump Is Above The Law
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou cover the biggest stories in American politics.
⚖️ The Senate confirmed Todd Blanche — Trump's personal criminal defense lawyer — as the permanent Attorney General by a single vote. Mom was told Blanche was just an interim replacement. That was a lie. Blanche has already withheld over 3 million Epstein documents, doxxed victims including their nude photos, and negotiated the deal that made Trump and his family permanently immune from paying taxes. We ask Mom: do you see the conflict of interest now?
⛽ Iran published its list of de...
Trump Caught Lying About The Reflecting Pool
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss week 23 of Trump's illegal war with Iran, and the possibility that it could be the beginning of World War 3.
🌍 Saudi Arabia joined U.S. strikes on Iran-backed militants in Iraq, killing at least 20. Jordan and Kuwait reported incoming Iranian strikes. Egypt was hit by a drone attack of unclear origin. China and Russia are openly providing Iran with intelligence on U.S. military positions. Only 28% of Americans approve of Trump's handling of the war. Trump is threatening fresh strikes on civilian infrastructure this week...
Trump 2028
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley and Mary Lou dig into day 149 of Trump's war with Iran. 18 American soldiers dead. And the bill just keeps climbing.
💣 If you support Trump, you support the war in Iran. Thirteen consecutive nights of strikes. Four U.S. soldiers killed since July 17th. Nearly 500 injuries. Hegseth says the $37.5 billion we've already spent isn't enough and is requesting $67.1 billion more. The House passed a resolution urging Trump to end the war 214-208. The Senate killed the binding version 47-49. Trump never got congressional authorization. We ask Mom point bla...
Election Denial
In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou show each other clips from both sides of the election denial campaign being run by Trump and Maga as we approach the next elections.
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Election Fraud
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou enter a brave new world in which Mary Lou said she wants to abolish ICE. Let that sink in.
🚨 ICE has now killed two people in two weeks — neither of whom were the targets of their operations. Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a 52-year-old father with no criminal record, was shot in Houston. Then Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero, a 25-year-old Colombian legally authorized to work in the U.S., was killed in Maine. The agent who killed Guerrero had previously been removed from a fire de...
Abolish Ice
In this midweek episode Mary Lou completely turns on ICE adopting the most progressive, left wing view she's ever had in the entirety of the show.
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Lindsey Graham Dead
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss...
🪦 Senator Lindsey Graham died Saturday at 71 following a sudden illness, ending 23 years in the Senate. The man who once called Trump a "race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot" became one of his biggest supporters. SC's Republican governor will appoint a replacement, and Trump says he already has someone in mind. We look back at Graham's legacy and what comes next.
💣 Week 20 of Trump's war with Iran — a war he said would be over in five. Trump declared the ceasefire "over" at the NATO summit a...
Haley Goes Viral One More Time
Chad and Haley discuss her recent viral IG post that got covered by Fox News and Libs of TikTok as well as some current headlines from this week.
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America 250
This week on The Necessary Conversation,Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss the 250 year of America as the country seems to be crumbling.
🎪 Trump's Great American State Fair was a disaster from start to finish. Sparse crowds, cheap decorations, expensive food, nearly every musical act backed out, a stage collapsed during rehearsal, a 110° heat wave shut parts of it down, 51 people were treated for heat-related illness, hail disrupted Mount Rushmore, and thunderstorms forced a full evacuation of the National Mall on the actual Fourth, delaying Trump's speech until 11 PM. Then a House Democrats' report found that...
Maga Is Crumbling
In this week's midweek episode Chad shows Mary Lou video about Stonewall, Todd Blanche's new power to move anyone to any prison he wants, Trump saying he wants housing prices to rise and Dr. Oz lying about crowd sizes at Trump events. Mary Lou offers her own video clips about Trump's "Human Printer."
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Is Trump Close To Death?
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss the biggest topics in politics.
💊 News broke that the FDA's "compassionate use" program — reserved for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions — was used to give a single 79-year-old man access to an unapproved experimental drug called Retatrutide. Trump was 79 when the request was made. The drug treats obesity, sleep apnea, and pulmonary hypertension — conditions that can be fatal in combination. The White House is denying it's Trump. We ask: should the president get special access to treatments no other American can?
💣 Week 18 of T...
Lib Sibs!
Haley is back in Oklahoma helping Mary Lou take Bob to some doctors appointments, and she makes time to have a conversation with Chad about politics and the current state of the country.
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Swamp Thing
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad (who just turned 50! 🎂), Haley, and Mary Lou celebrate Father's Day and discuss:
💣 Week 17 of Trump's war with Iran. Trump declared "The Deal is now complete" on Sunday. By Wednesday he and Iran's president signed a memorandum of understanding at Versailles. By Thursday, Israel broke the ceasefire with 12 air raids on Lebanon, killing 47 people. By Saturday, Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz again. The deal is effectively dead. We ask Mom and Dad: why can't Trump close this deal, and why won't Netanyahu listen to him?
🟢 Trump promised...
Founder of Leaving Maga - Rich Logis
Today we are honored to have a very special guest. The founder of LeavingMaga.org Rich Logis. Will he be able to find some common ground with Mary Lou and help her inch closer to leaving Maga herself, or will he push her back to Trump?
https://leavingmaga.org/
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Trillionaire
This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou are recording just hours before UFC Freedom 250 kicks off on the White House lawn. It's also Trump's 80th birthday, making him the oldest president in American history. 🎂
💰 Trump helped Elon Musk become the world's first trillionaire. SpaceX raised $75 billion in the biggest IPO in history — despite losing $4.9 billion last year. The Nasdaq and FTSE Russell changed their rules to fast-track SpaceX into their indexes, meaning your retirement fund could be forced to hold SpaceX stock whether you want it or not. At least 10 Trump administ...
Grifter In Chief
In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou play clips for one another from the opposite sides of the political spectrum highlighting Trump's new gold coin, Trump falling asleep at the NBA finals and fan reactions to his face on the Jumbotron.
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