Seafood Matters Podcast
Providing a voice for the UK fishing industry Jim Cowie speaks with fishermen, fisheries scientists and seafood industry leaders.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/seafood-matters-podcast--6102841/support.
Ep 113. Rethinking Fisheries Management
Hans Polet, from ILVO Marine, explores why the EU Common Fisheries Policy feels broken and what it will take to transform fisheries management.
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Ep 112. The Square Mesh Story
Fisheries scientist Jack Robertson shares the untold story of how collaborations between fishermen and scientists created the square mesh panel.
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Ep 111. Offshore Aquaculture: The Future of Seafood
Andrew Smith of Baja Aqua Farms explains why offshore aquaculture, innovation, and full fish utilisation are shaping the future of seafood.
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Website: seafoodmatterspodcast.comManuel Vázquez reveals how Baja Aqua Farms is navigating investment, markets, and sustainability to shape the future of premium bluefin tuna.
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Ep 110. Tuna, Capital & Control
Manuel Vázquez reveals how Baja Aqua Farms is navigating investment, markets, and sustainability in the world of bluefin tuna.
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Website: seafoodmatterspodcast.comManuel Vázquez reveals how Baja Aqua Farms is navigating investment, markets, and sustainability to shape the future of premium bluefin tuna.
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Ep 109. The Reality of Sustainable Aquaculture
Rodrigo Armada of Baja Aqua Farms explores the challenges, trade-offs, and innovations shaping sustainable fish farming today.
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Website: seafoodmatterspodcast.comManuel Vázquez reveals how Baja Aqua Farms is navigating investment, markets, and sustainability to shape the future of premium bluefin tuna.
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Ep 108. Seafood, Social Media & Influence
James Sibley, an aquaculture creator from New York, shares the realities of social media success, documentary storytelling, algorithms, and the personal cost of building an audience from scratch.
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Ep 107. Tradition, Truth & the Seaweed Boom
Seaweed pioneer Lorne Hammond, the Dulse Man, reveals the reality behind dulse, sustainability, nutrition, and whether this ancient coastal food can thrive in the modern world.
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Ep 106. Fair Fish or False Promise?
Ben King of Pesky Fish discusses whether fairer seafood models can genuinely deliver more value back to fishermen — or whether the system is too stacked against them.
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Ep 105. Waste, Fish & The Future of Seafood
Alexandra Leeper discusses why the future of seafood depends on turning every part of the fish into commercial value — not waste.
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Ep 104. The Real Cost of Fishing
Magnus Johnson and Duncan Boag take a hard look at the reality behind the numbers — asking whether the current system still works for working fishermen.
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Website: seafoodmatterspodcast.comA hard look at rising costs, policy failures, fuel efficiency, and whether the UK fishing fleet can survive the system built around it.
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Ep 103. Claws, Code & Pressure: Fishing’s New Reality
From deck to data, fishermen confront welfare pressure, new tech, and the truth behind “sustainable seafood.”
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Ep 102. Costs, Funding & Fuel Reality
Adrian Bartlett cuts through the noise on fuel savings, unequal funding, and practical solutions that deliver real results for working boats.
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Ep 101. Fuel, Emissions, and Reality A Working Solution That Pays
Jason and Kirstyn Munro of Ecomotus discuss a proven retrofit already saving fishermen money while cutting emissions — without waiting for future fuels.
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Ep 100. Hard Lessons with Mike Park OBE
Hard-earned lessons from a life in fishing, leadership, and standing up for the industry.
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Ep 99. Mercury in Seafood: Fact or Fear?
Kevin McCay of Safe Catch Inc explores whether U.S. climate policy changes could have real implications for mercury in seafood.
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Ep 98. Where Science, Policy & Fishing Collide
Dr. Colin Bannister shares hard-earned insights on the growing divide between science, policy, and the fishing industry — and what must change.
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Ep 97. Brixham Skipper on Smarter Fuel Efficiency
Brixham skipper-owner Mike Ballinger explains how new propeller coating technology improved handling, reduced fouling, and delivered a 5% fuel saving aboard Two Brothers.
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Ep 96. Octopus Bloom, Crab Crisis & Fuel-Saving Innovation
Newlyn skipper David Steven shares the devastating impact of the octopus bloom on crab fishing — and how new propeller coating technology is cutting costs and improving performance.
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Ep 95. The Science of Better Boat Performance
Mark Edwards and Simon De la Rue of Assured Marine explain how their high-performance coatings aim to boost boat efficiency while preventing fouling.
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Ep 94. Grimsby to the Arctic: A Cod Wars Skipper
Legendary Grimsby skipper John Roberts shares stories from the Arctic Circle, the Cod Wars, and a lifetime at sea.
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Ep 93. The Great Octopus Bloom: 2,000 Tons and Counting
Dr. Bryce Stewart explains why the South West’s octopus “bloom” is unlike anything seen in modern UK fishing history.
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Ep 92. How China Reshaped the Canadian Lobster Market
Greg Mercer and Richard Page discuss how China became the dominant force in Canadian lobster — and why its appetite for live seafood now shapes the entire Atlantic fishery.
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Ep 91. Mastery, Trust & the Art of the Fishmonger
Master fishmonger Hayden Cutting explains why perfection, trust, and education are the future of the fish trade.
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Ep 90. Predators, Pragmatism & the Limits of Models
Fisheries scientist, Dr. Steve Mackinson, cuts through ecosystem theory, stock assessments, and the reality of managing fish in an imperfect world.
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Ep 89. Letting Nature Rebuild What We Change
Richard Page explains how working with nature — not against it — can restore marine biodiversity, strengthen coastal infrastructure, and reshape fisheries policy worldwide.
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Ep 88. Trust, Partnership & Scottish Haddock
Linda Wood, CEO of Community Catch, on trust in the seafood supply chain, retailer power myths, and why Scottish haddock still matters.
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Ep 87. From Quay to Kitchen
Mike Warner explains how trust, lived experience, and on-the-quay education can reconnect consumers with the true realities of UK seafood.
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Ep 86. Science from the Pelagic Fleet
Dr. Steven Mackinson explains how curiosity, collaboration, and industry-led data collection are reshaping pelagic stock assessment and fisheries science.
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Ep 85. Fear, Fuel & the Future of Fishing
A candid conversation with Wendy Chadwick on why UK fishers feel unheard, undervalued, and unprepared for the push toward fleet decarbonisation.
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Ep 84. The Female Fisherman: Freedom, Grit & the Call of the Sea
How Ashley Mullenger went from office logistics to becoming “The Female Fisherman,” a proud voice for Britain’s small-boat fleet and a role model she never planned to be.
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Ep 83. Safe Catch: Testing Every Fish, Protecting Every Family
Kevin McCay shares how a family health scare led to Safe Catch - a seafood brand testing every fish for mercury and redefining trust in what we eat.
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Ep 82. From Cod Wars to Conservation: A Life in Fisheries Science
Dr. Colin Bannister reflects on six decades of shaping European fisheries policy - from Iceland’s cod wars to the North Sea herring closures.
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Ep 81. Truth and Trawl: Reclaiming the Story of Our Seas
Fisheries scientist Rob Fish challenges the misinformation shaping ocean policy - and calls for the industry to reclaim its story from the NGOs and the media.
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Ep 80. Backs Under Pressure: Fishermen & Golfers Alike
Osteopath and author Gavin Routledge reveals how golfers - and fishermen alike - can keep their backs pain-free by understanding movement, mechanics, and smart recovery.
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Ep 79. Predators, Populations, and the Lobster Trap
Investigative journalist Greg Mercer dives into how collapsing cod stocks and climate change are rewriting the rules of the North Atlantic lobster fishery.
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Ep 78. Reviving Britain’s Love of Seafood
Chef and author CJ Jackson shares her journey around the British Isles exploring forgotten fish, coastal traditions, and her mission to spark a Great British Seafood Revival.
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Ep 77. ICES Cod Closure: A ÂŁ100M Blow!
ICES Cod Closure: Mike Park challenges the zero-catch advice, warning of a ÂŁ100M hit to the sector and calling for common-sense fisheries management.
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Ep 76. The Big Dip Challenge
Ali Godfrey introduces "The Big Dip" - a bold new fundraising campaign from The Fishermen's Mission supporting fishermen and their families in need.
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Ep 75. Truth, Trawling & The Real State of Our Oceans
Max Mossler of the University of Washington explores how fisheries management has quietly improved over the last 30 years, why misinformation spreads faster than facts, and why sustainable ocean protein is key to protecting the planet.
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Ep 74. Hidden Truths in Our Water
Cydian Kauffman, founder of Pure Water Northwest, challenges what we think we know about water-unpacking hidden health risks, double standards in regulation, and how future technologies could turn seawater into both power and drinking water.
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