Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

In a world that glorifies the hustle, this episode is your permission slip to slow down.

Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras sit down with Karen Bartholomew, creator of the Pause Method, to explore the transformative impact of intentional pauses in both business and life. Together, they unpack what happens when we step off the hamster wheel of constant productivity and reconnect with ourselves.

Through candid conversation and real-life experiences, this episode highlights a powerful truth: taking a break isn’t a weakness, it’s a strategy.

What You’ll Learn

Are You Built for This? The Truth About Your Entrepreneurial Wiring

Let’s be honest: entrepreneurship isn’t for the faint of heart… and this episode? It’s calling you out (in the best way possible).

Join hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras as they dive headfirst into the real reason some business owners thrive while others burn out: your cognitive wiring.

Because here’s the truth- running a business isn’t just about strategy and spreadsheets. It’s about managing emotions, leading people, making tough calls, and somehow keeping it all together when chaos hit...

What does it really take to turn your expertise into an online course people actually want to buy? In this episode, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras sit down with Jasmine Jonte, founder and CEO of Cre8tion, to unpack the art and strategy behind transforming knowledge into impactful — and profitable — educational programs.

The conversation kicks off with an honest look at the realities of entrepreneurship. From running businesses to hosting a podcast to managing everyday life, Kelly and Kelly share the very real juggling act many founders know all too well. That candid moment sets the stag...

On this episode of Getting Real with Bossy, Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras get honest about something most business owners don’t talk about enough: the mental wiring of entrepreneurs.

What really makes someone built for business ownership?

Is it confidence? Fearlessness? Hustle?

Or is it anxiety, control issues, stubbornness… and a little bit of trauma-fueled independence?

This conversation dives deep into the real traits behind entrepreneurship- the messy, complicated, powerful ones- and how they can either build your business… or burn you out.

From Burnout to Mental Health Reset<...

A Conversation with Photographer & Author Adam Eaton

Art doesn’t live in a vacuum. It shapes identity, strengthens communities, and fuels entrepreneurship. In this episode, we explore the powerful intersection of creativity and leadership with Adam Eaton, Rochester-based photographer, artist, and author of the book Black Is Beautiful.

Adam’s work captures more than images; it tells stories that invite connection, reflection, and belonging. Through photography and community engagement, he demonstrates how art can be a catalyst for personal growth and social change, particularly within Rochester’s creative landscape.

At a time when artist...

Winter has a way of forcing us to slow down. In this episode of Getting Real with BOSSY, Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras remind us that “slow” doesn’t mean stuck. It means intentional. It means restoration. It means opportunity.

Inspired by the Danish concept of hygge (cozy, calm, restoration), this conversation invites business owners to take the cold, quiet season and use it to transform chaos into clarity. The storm doesn’t have to control your business. You get to turn it into a snow globe- beautiful, contained, and intentional.

This episode is a powerful...

From Kodak to Craft Beer Legend: The John Urlaub Story

What happens when passion meets purpose? You get a legacy that changes a city. In this inspiring episode, we sit down with John Urlaub, founder of Rohrbach Brewing Company and the visionary behind Rochester’s very first craft brewery.

John takes us on a journey from his corporate career at Kodak to building a brewery that would become a cornerstone of the local craft beer community. Alongside his wife Patty, he didn’t just create a business—he built a culture rooted in quality, mentorship, and co...

As we step into 2026, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras are throwing out the rulebook on New Year’s resolutions and are inviting you to do the same.

In this episode, we talk about what it really means to live intentionally, without the pressure of outside expectations or performative “new year, new me” energy. Instead of chasing perfection, we explore the power of self-acceptance, authenticity, and choosing goals that actually align with who you are.

Kelly and Kelly break down a refreshing framework for the year ahead:

-one meaningful annual goal

-suppo...

Let’s be honest- most business owners didn’t start their company because they love spreadsheets.

But avoiding your numbers? That’s where things get dangerous.

In this episode, we sit down with Megan Schwan, founder of Sidekick Accounting Services, to talk about money without the jargon, judgment, or shame. Megan shares why financial literacy is the real power move for entrepreneurs, and how the Profit First method flips the script on traditional accounting.

We talk cash flow, confidence, and why so many smart, capable business owners (especially women and minorities) feel overwhelmed by mon...

In this candid, cozy, and surprisingly laugh-filled episode, Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras settle into their favorite library nook to get real about the past year of entrepreneurship- the wins, the worries, the wild turns, and the lessons that hit harder than expected.

From money mindset breakthroughs to navigating the political chaos that impacts small businesses, the Kellys peel back the curtain on what it truly means to build and run a business with intention, courage, and community.

What We Talk About

Getting Comfortable with Money (Even When It’s Uncomfortable)

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Episode Summary

In this episode, we dive into the real world of small business ownership and why authentic communication matters more than ever. From the chaos of running a business during a record-breaking heatwave to the challenge of sounding like yourself in your marketing copy, we explore what it takes to show up as a real human behind your brand.

Joining us is the brilliant Rachael Johnson of RJ Creative, who brings her expertise in storytelling, copywriting, and messaging that actually connects. Together, we unpack why authenticity beats perfection, how AI can support (but not...

The holidays are coming — is your business ready? In this episode of Getting Real with Bossy, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras get candid about the stress, hustle, and hope that come with marketing during the busiest time of year.

They’re joined by Alecia Peterson, owner and marketing maestro behind Drummergirl Marketing, who shares why now is the time to plan your holiday campaigns — before things get chaotic. From scheduling social media posts and refreshing your website to balancing business goals with much-needed downtime, Alecia breaks down the strategies that help small business owners hit the right...

Get ready for a seriously empowering conversation with the incredible Anissa Crespo — visionary leader, powerhouse entrepreneur, and co-founder of the Million Dollar Mom Society!

In this episode, Anissa opens up about her mission to help mothers break barriers, chase their wildest dreams, and create legacies that last. What started as a small Facebook group of 200 women has exploded into a thriving community of over 16,000- all in just fifteen months!

Anissa’s secret? A mix of heart, high-touch strategy, and a deep belief in collaboration over competition. She’s built a movement where women lift each o...

Get ready for a seriously empowering conversation with the incredible Anissa Crespo — visionary leader, powerhouse entrepreneur, and co-founder of the Million Dollar Mom Society!

In this episode, Anissa opens up about her mission to help mothers break barriers, chase their wildest dreams, and create legacies that last. What started as a small Facebook group of 200 women has exploded into a thriving community of over 16,000- all in just fifteen months!

Anissa’s secret? A mix of heart, high-touch strategy, and a deep belief in collaboration over competition. She’s built a movement where women lift each o...

In our season finale, we’re wrapping things up with a conversation that every business owner needs to hear — all about financial literacy. This episode ties together the insights, lessons, and empowering stories we’ve shared throughout the season, bringing it all home with a focus on what it really takes to prepare your business (and your mindset!) for success — especially as we head into the busy holiday season.

We’re talking budgets, cash flow, and the importance of truly knowing your numbers. Because let’s be real — knowledge isn’t just power, it’s profit. It is YOUR money on t...

What’s your exit plan? In this episode, Dr. Ruth Mannshreck—dentist turned business strategist—gets real about building a sellable business, boosting value, and knowing when (and how) to walk away. Whether you’re years from selling or just starting out, these insights will change the way you think about your business.

What’s your game plan for when it’s time to step away from your business? Most entrepreneurs don’t think about their exit until it’s staring them in the face—and by then, it’s often too late.

In this episode of Getting R...

Episode Highlights with Crystal Wallace (CMW Services)

In this episode, we dive into the world of business funding with our amazing guest, Crystal Wallace of CMW Services. Crystal keeps it real about all the different ways you can fund your business—grants, loans, equity, even self-funding—and breaks down how to think strategically instead of making decisions out of fear.

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What happens when life throws you a curveball—like an unexpected family crisis—right in the middle of running your business? In this episode, we’re digging into that exact challenge with Julie Loughlin Haers, co-founder of Breathe Capital Planning.

Julie brings not only her professional expertise but also her personal experiences navigating the tricky space where business finances, personal responsibilities, and family emergencies collide. We talk about why reserve funds aren’t just a “nice to have,” but a lifeline, and how open conversations about money can help you steer clear of misunderstandings—or even financial abuse—in perso...

Lets rewrite YOUR money story with Scarlett Stanhope, The Biz Hippie.

Ever feel like no matter how much money you make, it never feels like enough? Or maybe you’ve been chasing financial success, thinking it’ll fix everything—but deep down, you still feel stuck? You are not alone.

In this episode, we sit down with Scarlet Stanhope—aka The Biz Hippie— whose business is to coach entreprenuers and creatives through their money trauma by ditching scarcity thinking and building a better relationship with money.

Scarlet shares her own journey from burnout and perfec...

This episode delves into the critical, and often overlooked, significance of understanding and managing one's finances as a business owner. We explore fears surrounding money, particularly among female entrepreneurs, and emphasize the necessity of breaking the taboos associated with financial literacy.

Throughout our discussion, we highlight the importance of actively engaging with financial statements and maintaining clear oversight of one’s books, as these practices are essential for sustainable business operations and informed decision-making.

Moreover, we address the importance of understanding the distinction between revenue and profit, as well as the returns on investments made-- in...

In this episode of Getting Real with Bossy, we dive into financial empowerment, particularly focusing on the pivotal role women play in financial decision-making. Abbe F. Large, managing director at Lenox Advisors, and a prominent advocate for women's financial literacy, joins us to share her insights from her extensive experience in the financial services sector. She elucidates the significance of inclusive financial planning, emphasizing that discussions about finances should not be relegated to one partner. Abbe also underscores the importance of cultivating an environment where children are educated about money matters from an early age- instilling a sense of...

Let’s talk money—because it’s time we all got a little more comfortable doing just that.

In this empowering episode of Getting Real with Bossy, your hosts Kelly B and Kelly M sit down with the amazing Lauri Kibbe—entrepreneur, investor, and fierce advocate for women’s financial empowerment. Lori is the managing partner of Selene Brighthouse, a real estate investment fund focused on revitalizing community retail centers with a purpose-driven approach. She brings decades of experience across industries (think real estate, fashion, health and beauty, and biomedicine), and she’s here to share what she’s learne...

This podcast episode revolves around the profound concept of self-acceptance as articulated by Barbara Burgess, author of the book "Enough." In our conversation, we delve into the pervasive feelings of inadequacy that many individuals experience, addressing how these sentiments can manifest in our daily lives. Through Barbara's insights, we explore the importance of recognizing one's intrinsic worth, irrespective of societal pressures and external expectations. Furthermore, we discuss the transformative power of small refusals and the necessity of setting boundaries in order to cultivate a more authentic existence. This is not merely theoretical; it is a clarion call to embrace...

The focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the multifaceted and often contentious realm of artificial intelligence (AI) within the contemporary business landscape. We, (hosts Kelly and Kelly), delve into the myriad ways AI can be utilized by small business owners to enhance operational efficiency, marketing strategies, and overall productivity.

While we acknowledge the significant ecological concerns associated with AI's environmental impact, we also emphasize its potential as a transformative tool, particularly for solopreneurs who may lack extensive resources.

Throughout our discussion, we present various insights and anecdotes that illustrate both the practical applications...

Today, we delve into the inspiring journey of Alayna Alderman (@amh523), a luminary in Rochester's music and business landscape, who has indelibly altered the fabric of record stores both locally and nationally. With over four decades of experience, she has transformed the Record Archive into a cultural cornerstone, enriching the community with a vibrant space for music and camaraderie. In this episode, we explore Alayna's innovative ventures, including the establishment of a backroom lounge that has redefined the traditional record store experience. We will also discuss her recent induction into the Rochester Music Hall of Fame, a testament to...

The focal point of our discourse today is the intricate challenge of managing others while grappling with our own personal struggles as business owners. We candidly explore the reality that leadership does not equate to invincibility; in fact, many of us find ourselves navigating turbulent waters, often barely maintaining our own stability. It is imperative to recognize and articulate our vulnerabilities, as doing so fosters an environment where both leaders and team members can seek support and understanding during challenging times. We delve into the significance of authenticity in our relationships with staff, emphasizing the necessity of open dialogue...

The salient point of this podcast episode revolves around the significance of human design as a transformative tool for entrepreneurs. We engage in a profound conversation with Mel McSherry, an international business and life guide, who elucidates how human design can assist individuals in understanding their unique energy types and decision-making strategies. This framework enables entrepreneurs to navigate their journeys with greater clarity and authenticity, fostering a sense of self-trust that is often undermined by conventional business practices. Throughout our dialogue, we emphasize the importance of recognizing that success is not a monolithic concept; rather, it is a deeply...

This podcast episode delves into the imperative concept of assuming the role of the CEO of one's own life. We engage in a thoughtful discussion about the necessity of taking control amidst the tumultuous external circumstances that can often feel overwhelming. During our conversation, we reflect on the importance of delegating tasks that do not align with our highest priorities, thereby allowing ourselves to focus on activities that yield the greatest impact. Additionally, we introduce an interactive exercise designed to help listeners categorize their responsibilities, distinguishing between tasks of varying significance and urgency. Ultimately, we emphasize that in recognizing...

This episode covers the remarkable journey of Kathy Turiano, the Business Development and Marketing Director of Joe Bean Coffee, who has adeptly navigated the complexities of the coffee industry for over two decades. Kathy articulates her commitment to quality and sustainability, emphasizing the significance of ethical sourcing practices and the cultivation of meaningful connections with coffee producers. Her narrative encapsulates the challenges and triumphs inherent in entrepreneurship, serving as a testament to resilience and innovation in the face of adversity.

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Ep. 54 Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush explore the inner narratives and doubts that small business owners face. They discuss the pressure of maintaining a positive facade, the loneliness of entrepreneurship, and the importance of acknowledging mental health struggles. The conversation covers overcoming impostor syndrome, managing customer reviews, and recognizing that not every venture can succeed. They emphasize the significance of self-care, seeking help when needed, and letting go of unattainable perfection. Listeners are encouraged to release their own self-limiting thoughts, embracing resilience and adaptability in their entrepreneurial journey.

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Ep. 53 What if the lens you see yourself through could transform the way the world sees you?

This Black History Month, we’re celebrating artistry and storytelling with photographer Jackie McGriff, who turned her personal journey of self-love into a mission to uplift others.

From capturing the soul of Rochester to redefining representation in media, Jackie shares how photography became her tool for healing, empowerment, and changing the narrative.

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Ep. 52 How will Trump policies impact small businesses? On Inauguration Day Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush dive into the evolving political and economic landscape as of January 20, 2025. With a dash of humor and a glass of tequila in hand, they analyze how new policies might influence small businesses across the United States. The duo weighs in on tariffs, deportation, and other proposed changes, drawing from their rich business experience to provide critical, albeit candid, evaluations.

A major point of discussion is the impact of tariffs on the cost of imported goods such as tequila...

Are you having a Dry January? Perhaps it's time to dry a new vice. In this episode of Getting Real with Bossy we spark up a conversation with Shelby Poole, founder of Betty Bloom, a mobile social club focused on empowering women to embrace the marijuana plant in lieu of alcohol. Shelby shares her journey from working in the restaurant industry to building a business that promotes education, destigmatization, and fun cannabis experiences.

#CBDMonth #WomeninCannabis #DryJanuary

🎯 Key Takeaways:

The rise of non-alcoholic and cannabis-based alt...

Ep. 51 Hey Bossys! We’re kicking off 2025 with a vulnerable and unfiltered recap of the rollercoaster that was 2024. From the financial chaos of an election year to the pressures of the holiday season, we’re laying it all out—no sugarcoating, just the real, messy truth of being small business owners.

Kelly Bush shares how the unpredictable economy hit her businesses, Marshall Street and The Union Tavern, while Kelly Metras opens up about navigating huge financial risks of buying I-Square and the constant juggling act of work and family. We’re also diving into how AI is reshapin...

Ep. 50 Is it possible to run a successful bar without serving alcohol? Meg Hartman of Alt Bar thinks so, and she’s changing the game in Rochester, NY. Find out how Meg's innovative non-alcoholic bottle shop and bar is creating a welcoming space for everyone.

Whether you’re a business owner, an advocate for inclusivity, or simply curious about the growing non-alcoholic space, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration.

Meg takes us on her inspiring journey from starting as a pop-up shop to launching a full-fledged brick-and-mortar space that’s redefining the social drinki...

Ep. 49 Ever felt like you were at your breaking point? That moment when everything feels like it’s falling apart—but then, the people you’ve touched rally around you in ways you never imagined?

In this heartfelt and raw episode of Getting Real with Bossy, Rosa Marie, entrepreneur and childcare activist, returns to the podcast with a story of resilience, vulnerability, and triumph. Recently, Rosa sent out a public “cry for help” on social media as her business, Marvelous Mind Academy, faced a financial crisis. But instead of defeat, what followed was a powerful outpouring of community...

Ep. 48 Explore the heart of Small Business Saturday with Kelly Metras and Kelly Bush as they spotlight Bossy ROC members and their exciting offers. Hear from Tanvi of Shop Peppermint, Lindsey of Laughing All Chocolates, Erika Sorbello of Gallery Salon, Raeanne Lacatera, holistic business coach, Jackie McGriff, photographer and co-producer, Jill Rizzo Budd from Awaken Wellness and Beauty, Kathy from Joe Bean Coffee, and Nicole from Screen Printing by Bowers.

If you're looking to support local, women-owned businesses and want to give unique gifts this Holiday Season, this episode is your go-to resource.

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Ep. 47 What does it truly mean to honor Native American heritage? In this eye-opening episode of Getting Real with Bossy, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras catch up with Angelina Hilton, founder of Native Made and a passionate advocate for Indigenous representation. A proud member of the Sac and Fox Nation, Angelina is on a mission to amplify Indigenous voices in business, art, and beyond. Her story, rooted in cultural pride and entrepreneurial spirit, reveals the impact of visibility and the importance of spaces where Indigenous narratives can thrive.

"I recognized that there was a significant need...

Ep. 46 In honor of #AmerianBeerDay we are celebrating a woman who saw a need to blend the flavors of Buffalo and Rochester, NY and crafted a community that continues to spart innovation.

Marina Nothnagle’s story is one of passion, challenge, and resilience. Over the years, her relentless dedication has turned Nine Spot Brewing into a hub for beer enthusiasts while fostering a sense of community and collaboration among local businesses. This episode provides valuable insights into the importance of building a supportive network and adapting to changes in the industry.

Marina discusses her partnership wi...

Ep. 45 Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras delve into the personal and professional challenges of managing stress and maintaining wellness as business owners. This candid discussion reflects on the real and raw experiences of entrepreneurship, offering listeners honest insights into the journey.

Incorporating key wellness insights, the Kellys share personal anecdotes about how they cope with the overwhelming demands of running businesses in the hospitality sector. Phrases like "stress management," "wellness strategies," "coping mechanisms," and "mental health" are central to the conversation, highlighting common struggles and providing actionable insights.

From laying on the floor to baking...