The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast
The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker. Experts in their field who work with shop owners take it to the next level and create a unique approach to marketing. See the growth in your business you’ve been working so hard for by using time-proven marketing that works, fueled to go further by your shop's uniqueness.
Legacy of Education, Events, and Care [E208]
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Some shops sponsor a Little League team and call it community involvement. Others build their entire business around serving people.
Patrick Weidman and Jean Bradley have spent decades creating a culture where giving back is simply part of how they do business. From Ladies’ Night educational events and teen driver workshops to supporting local food pantries, cancer research, and holiday giving programs, their commitment to the community has become one of the biggest drivers of trust, loyalty, and long-term growth.
What started with lessons learned fr...
Should Your Shop Have a Team Retreat? [E207]
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Let’s be real. Your team probably needs a break more than they need another meeting.
Brian and Kim Walker talk about their fifth annual team retreat, why they intentionally do almost no work during it, and how getting away together has helped their remote team reconnect, rest, laugh, and build real culture. Whether you take your shop team to the beach, the mountains, a conference Airbnb, or just your backyard for a barbecue, this episode will get you thinking about what it looks like to truly re...
AI Nuggets From Our SEO Director [E206]
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AI isn’t just changing SEO. It’s changing the way people choose an auto repair shop.
Brian Walker sits down with Michelle Travis to talk through what shop owners need to understand about AI-first SEO, zero-click search, brand trust, reviews, content depth, and why website traffic may go down while lead quality goes up. They also dig into why the old SEO foundations still matter, why AI cares about your brand across the web, and why chasing every shiny new AI tactic is a mistake.
Li...
The Results of AI-First SEO [E205]
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AI is no longer something that’s “coming.” It’s already changing the way auto repair shops get discovered, build trust, and attract high-value clients. In this conversation, Brian Walker sits down with Doug DeLucca and Chris Luoma to talk about what happens when an auto repair shop embraces an AI-first SEO strategy and starts creating the kind of content AI platforms actually want to recommend.
From ChatGPT and Claude to Grok and Gemini, both shop owners share real stories of customers finding their businesses through AI searches...
Why Your Marketing Works….Until It Doesn’t [E204]
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Let’s be real, nothing feels better than when your marketing is firing on all cylinders. Phones ringing, bays full, your team moving fast. And then… it just stops.
No warning. No clear reason. Same budget, same ads, same strategy but the results? Gone.
In this episode, Kim Walker breaks down exactly why that happens and, more importantly, what to do about it. She walks through the real lifecycle of marketing, from the early wins of launch, to the momentum of growth, to the frustrating plat...
Should You Have a Customer Advisory Panel? [E203]
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Most shop owners are out here making big decisions based on gut feelings, a few loud customer opinions, or whatever seems like a good idea in the moment.
And sometimes that works… but a lot of times, it doesn’t.
What if you had a way to pressure test your ideas before rolling them out?
What if you could hear directly from the people you actually want more of… your best clients… and even the ones who are not afraid to tell you the trut...
Bold Leadership with J.R. Portman [E202]
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Leadership isn’t always about learning how to manage other people. Sometimes it’s about getting uncomfortable enough to finally lead yourself.
In this episode, Brian talks with J.R. Portman about his experience at Bold Advanced Leadership, a training that pushed him physically, mentally, and emotionally. They talk about enthusiasm, honesty, trust, getting over the fear of looking foolish, and how those lessons apply just as much at home as they do inside the business.
If you own an auto repair shop and you’re try...
The Loyalty Gap: Why Customers Don't Come Back [E201]
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You got the customer. You did the work. You got paid…and then they disappear.
That’s not normal, and it’s costing you way more than you think.
Kim Walker digs into the loyalty gap that keeps auto repair shops stuck in a transactional cycle and shows why customer loyalty is built in the space between visits, not just at the counter. From follow-up and personal connection to surprise-and-delight moments, rewards programs, and consistent communication, this episode is a reminder that customers come back when t...
Everything That Has Changed in Auto Repair Marketing Since Episode 1 [E200]
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Two hundred episodes in, and a lot has changed. In this milestone conversation, Brian and Kim, look back at the biggest shifts in auto repair marketing since episode one, from the rise of AI and Local Service Ads to the growing importance of your Google Business Profile, reviews, trust signals, automation, influencers, and short-form video. It’s a real-world look at what’s working now, what has changed for shop owners, and where marketing seems to be headed next. Give it a listen and see how your shop can stay...
Deo Kitoko on YouTube Growth, Auto Repair Success, and Building Trust [E199]
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From learning automotive repair beside his father in the Republic of Congo to building a successful shop and YouTube channel in Maryland, Deo Kitoko’s story is a powerful reminder of what hard work, humility, and persistence can build. In this conversation, he shares how he taught himself advanced diagnostics through books and YouTube, why he started creating videos, and how education, honesty, and consistency helped him grow both his audience and his business. Give this episode a listen to hear how Deo turned skill, service, and storytelling into re...
Differentiating Your Shop Through Market, Message, and Method with Rick White [E198]
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If your shop looks and sounds like every other shop in town, you’re just another option in the sea of sameness. In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with Rick White of 180BIZ to talk about what it really takes to differentiate your shop, attract the right clients, and stop competing on price alone. They dig into market, message, and medium, and explain how knowing exactly who you serve makes your marketing easier, sharper, and a whole lot more effective. If you want more of the right clients an...
Why Great Shop Owners Refuse to Settle with Parker Branch [E197]
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Big goals require big standards, and that is exactly what Brian Walker and Parker Branch dig into in this conversation from VISION. Parker shares why he refuses to accept playing small, how coaching helped shape his growth, and what it looks like to push yourself, your team, and your vendors without burning relationships. They also get into financial fear, extreme ownership, truthful leadership, and the kind of mindset shift it takes to build something truly exceptional. If you are serious about growing your shop, raising your standards, and refusing...
How to Align Technician Training with Your Shop’s Goals with Matt Wagg [196]
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Training is expensive, and too many shop owners treat conferences like a reward instead of a real investment in the future of their business. In this conversation with Matt Wagg at VISION 2026, we get into how smart shop owners can build a true talent pipeline by aligning training with business goals, creating development plans for their team, and making sure they always have a solid bench of players ready to step up. If you want your training dollars to actually produce a return, this is one you need to...
Are You Helping the Industry, or Just a Gossip? [E195]
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Sometimes the problem isn’t the conference. It’s the mindset you brought with you.
Brian Walker takes on the chatter that came out of the VISION Conference and makes the case that seasoned shop owners may be expecting the wrong thing. When you’re new, every class feels like a breakthrough. But as you grow, your role has to shift from taker to giver, from student to mentor, from chasing epiphanies to building legacy.
He also calls out vendors who turn classes into sales pitche...
When Branding Breaks the Rules (And Still Wins) with Zeb Beard [E194]
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Brand building doesn’t always come from ads, funnels, or traditional marketing; it often comes from bold decisions, authenticity, and doing things differently. Zeb Beard of Stroker’s Diesel and Automotive shares how sponsoring a professional fisherman, building a massive and unforgettable shop, and leaning into unconventional branding strategies have fueled explosive brand awareness and loyalty. From turning everyday moments into viral content to embracing his true personality online, Zeb reveals how exposure, storytelling, and consistency can outperform paid advertising. If you want to rethink how brand building really work...
Why the BBB Still Matters in 2026 with Mark Lowe [E193]
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Most shops say they “do the right thing.” Mark Lowe from Yeck's Auto Repair went out and proved it by earning the BBB Torch Award for Ethics. In this conversation, we dig into what the award actually measures (hint: it’s way more than reviews), what the application process revealed about their business, and how the recognition boosted team pride and customer confidence once that trophy hit the front counter.
We also connect the dots to something shop owners can’t ignore anymore: AI-driven recommendations. If ChatGPT (and the...
If I Took Over Your Shop’s Marketing For 90 Days [E192]
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What would happen if someone walked into your shop tomorrow and took over your marketing for the next 90 days?
No theory.
No fluff.
No “someday” ideas.
Just a step-by-step execution plan designed to fill bays, tighten up your processes, and position your shop as the obvious choice in your market.
In this episode, Brian lays out exactly what he would do, starting with Local Service Ads and a full marketing audit, all the way through AI optimization, content strategy, Goog...
5 Reasons You Should Be Meta Verified [E191]
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Meta Verified isn’t just for celebrities anymore, and no, it’s not just about that little blue checkmark either. In this episode, Hallie Wasinger and Caroline LeGrand from Shop Marketing Pros dig into five solid reasons why your auto repair shop might want to seriously consider Meta Verification. We’re talking real-world protection from impersonators, better access to Meta support when something goes sideways (because it will), and even perks that can boost your SEO and visibility in the algorithm. Caroline breaks down the entire process, what it actual...
The Great Google Ads Hack of 2025 [E190]
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December 16th, Shop Marketing Pros’ Google Ads MCC was hacked — and what should’ve been a quick fix turned into an eight-day nightmare of lost access, fraudulent campaigns, and even attempted $500,000 account “preload” charges. Brian Walker and Hallie Wasinger lay out the full timeline (warts and all): what the hackers changed, why leaving them “view-only” mattered, how Google support handled it, and what it took to restore and stabilize dozens of client accounts. If you run Google Ads (or hire someone who does), listen all the way through for the hard-earne...
The Most Important KPI You're Not Tracking with Chris Cotton [E189]
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You might be tracking average repair order, car count, even gross profit, but are you looking at your average estimate? In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with coach and shop owner Chris Cotton to dig into what may be the most underutilized KPI in the auto repair industry. Chris lays out real numbers, explains why average estimate is a crystal ball into your sales process, and even shares the exact changes his shop made to 4x estimates and drive gross profit through the roof, all in just one...
How to Work the Chamber of Commerce [E188]
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You joined the Chamber of Commerce - great move. But now what? This episode pulls back the curtain on why just paying your dues and slapping a sticker on your window doesn’t cut it. The chamber isn’t a vending machine where you drop in money and business pops out, it’s a networking powerhouse if you actually use it.
We dig into how to evaluate your local chamber, the right way to get involved, and how to turn those meet-and-greets into actual business growth. From busine...
How to Choose the Right BNI Group [E187]
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Let’s be honest: BNI isn’t new to you. If you’ve been around this podcast, you’ve heard us talk about Business Networking International before. But this time, we’re taking a deeper dive into something super practical: how to actually choose the right BNI group for your shop. Because let’s be real, not all chapters are created equal. In this episode, Kim and I walk you through the exact steps we’ve taken to find the best-fit groups, what red flags to look for, and how to show up...
Our Favorite Episodes of 2025 [E186]
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Want a shortcut to the best episodes from 2025 that’ll breathe new life into your mindset, your marketing, and your mission as a shop owner? This one’s a must-listen. Kim and Brian sat down, actually face-to-face for once, to unpack the ten episodes from last year that left a lasting impact. Whether it’s building superfans, preparing your shop for anything life throws your way, or rekindling that fire that got you into this industry in the first place, we’ve got you covered. Grab a notebook and dive int...
The Fast Track: How Paying for Speed Changes Everything [E185]
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Standing in line for hours at Disney might not sound like it has anything to do with running an auto repair shop but Brian Walker draws a straight line between the two. In this episode, he shares how paying to fast track your experiences, whether it’s in business, life, or even theme parks, can be the smartest investment you make. With real talk from his own business journey and the hard lessons he learned over the years, Brian lays out how mentorship, coaching, and strategic outsourcing can shave ye...
How ASCCA Protected Shops’ Ability to Track Google Ads—An Insider Update with Dave Kusa [E184]
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California auto repair shop owners, there’s a new regulation that almost flew under the radar, and if you're doing any kind of digital advertising, you’ll want to hit play on this one.
In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with Dave Kusa, president of ASCCA, to break down recent changes from the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) that affect how you advertise your shop, especially when it comes to your phone number and license info. Spoiler: that tracking number you’ve been using to measure ad per...
Preparing for the Unexpected with Darrin and Ginger Barney [E183]
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Most shop owners avoid tough conversations until it’s too late. But what happens when life throws you something completely unexpected, like the sudden loss of a loved one or a health scare that takes you out of your business?
In this powerful, heartfelt conversation between Darrin and Ginger Barney (Elite), and Brian and Kim Walker (Shop Marketing Pros), these industry leaders open up about the real-life wake-up calls that forced them to prepare for the unthinkable. From losing parents to near-miss tragedies, they share the emotional an...
Takeaways From The Marketing AI Conference with Hallie Wasinger [E182]
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What if your best strategic thinking partner wasn’t on your payroll, but sitting right in your pocket?
In this episode of The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast, Brian Walker sits down with Hallie Wasinger to unpack what she learned at the MAICON (Marketing AI Conference). But don’t let the name fool you, this conversation goes way beyond marketing. Hallie breaks down how AI is reshaping not just how we create content, but how we think, from operations to service efficiency to scaling personalized experiences for clients.
From Invisible to Unmissable: How McCart’s Auto Center Stands Out with Kelly McCart [E181]
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A bland building that blended in… turned bold brand that brought in business. That’s the real story behind this episode featuring Kelly McCart from McCart’s Auto Center. If you’ve ever wondered whether the look and feel of your shop actually matters, you’ll want to hear how a full-on rebrand, from paint to logo to online presence, transformed Kelly’s shop from invisible to impossible to miss.
We talk about why aesthetics are marketing, how design can literally drive in new clients, and what it means when...
Big, Beautiful, Impactful Email! [E180]
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Kim Walker’s flying solo on this one, and she’s got a fire-in-her-belly message for every shop owner still sleeping on email marketing. This isn’t your typical “email tips” episode, it’s a storytelling breakdown of one jaw-dropping, beautifully built email from Mission Mercantile that had Kim hooked, clicking, and even podcasting about it.
She breaks down what made this email a masterclass in branding: from a killer subject line (“Not Cheap… But Worth Every Penny”) to irresistible storytelling, handcrafted visuals, call-to-actions in all the right places, and...
The Legalities of Tracking Numbers and Recording Calls with David Boyd [E179]
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There’s a lot you can ignore in marketing, but legal compliance isn’t one of them. Especially when a quiet policy change in California nearly stripped shops of their ability to track marketing ROI overnight. This episode dives into the legalities of call recording, AI evaluations, tracking numbers, and the kind of red tape that can blindside your business if you’re not paying attention. Brian Walker sat down with David Boyd from Inbound at AAPEX to talk through what’s happening, what’s coming, and how to protect yo...
Who is Josh Parnell, Really? [E178]
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Josh Parnell’s story isn’t your typical rise to success narrative. It’s one of faith, perspective, and the kind of leadership that’s forged through humility and hard lessons. From dreaming of becoming a filmmaker to serving as an Air Force cop in Minot, North Dakota, to climbing the ranks at Christian Brothers Automotive, Josh’s journey is filled with turns only God could have scripted.
In this episode, Brian Walker sits down with Josh to uncover the man behind Limitless Leadership. They dig into what shape...
Planning for December's Marketing [E177]
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December comes faster than most of us expect, and if you’re not planning your shop’s holiday marketing now, you’ll be scrambling when the tinsel hits the floor. In this episode of The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast, Brian Walker and Caroline LeGrand break down how to finish the year strong with festive, community-driven content that actually connects.
From shop Christmas parties and Operation Santa Paws to car giveaways and safety awareness campaigns, Brian and Caroline unpack creative, authentic ways to bring holiday cheer into your market...
Reigniting the Passion: How Larry Anderson Keeps the Joy in the Work [E176]
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Larry Anderson isn’t your typical shop owner and that’s exactly what makes this episode worth your time. From fabricating race cars and building trail-ready rigs with his wife, Cheryl, to mastering lost arts like manual machining and custom fabrication, Larry’s story is a masterclass in keeping your passion alive while running a successful auto repair business.
We dig into how he balances work and hobby without burning out, the lessons he learned from turning wrenches to leading a thriving shop, and why separating business from p...
Service Advisor Auditing and Skill-building [E175]
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Kim Walker and Michael Doherty dig into what really happens at the front counter of an auto repair shop and why the service advisor’s role can make or break your marketing efforts. From real-world auditing tips to skill-building strategies, Michael shares how shops can turn their advisors into trusted consultants instead of order takers. You’ll hear practical advice on improving communication, handling tough days like a pro, using body language that builds trust, and even his traffic light method for explaining repairs in a way customers actually unde...
Getting Your Shop Suggested by AI [E174]
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AI search isn’t the future, it’s already here, and it’s changing how people find your auto repair shop. Brian Walker just came back from teaching a four-hour class on AI search optimization at the ASTA Expo, and he’s breaking it all down so you can take action now. From getting your shop mentioned in AI overviews to the practical steps that help you get recommended by AI tools like ChatGPT and Google’s Gemini, Brian shares what you can do today to stay ahead of the curve...
The Power of Story [E173]
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Brian and Kim Walker sit down with Wayne Marshall, CEO of The Institute for Automotive Business Excellence, to explore the real power behind storytelling in the auto repair industry. With deep roots in manufacturing and marketing, Wayne shares how his own journey and the stories along the way became the foundation for helping shop owners connect more meaningfully with their communities.
This episode is a reminder that people don't connect with services; they connect with people. From emotional moments of vulnerability to the simple act of staying...
Preparing for November's Marketing [E172]
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Caroline Legrand steps in for Brian Walker and is joined by Shop Marketing Pros' COO, Hallie Wasinger, for a power-packed conversation all about planning your November social media content. This one’s tailor-made for shop owners who want to show up with purpose online, not just post for the sake of posting.
From meaningful campaigns like honoring veterans and military families to fun engagement ideas like Dear Santa Letter Week and National Cook for Your Pet Day (yep, that’s a thing), this episode is loaded with cont...
Backpacks, Car Shows, and Big Hearts: Marketing That Matters [E171]
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Wondering how one community-focused idea can transform your shop’s reputation, rally an entire town, and even get the mayor’s attention?
Kim Walker connects with Betty Otero of Greg Smith Automotive in Belleview, Florida, a powerhouse shop owner who took a simple idea, a school backpack drive, and turned it into a ripple effect of community involvement, business partnerships, and real local impact.
Betty didn’t just donate school supplies. She created momentum. What started with 100 backpacks became nearly 400, all filled through the power of con...
Why Long Content Matters for SEO and AI Suggestions [E170]
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In this episode of The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast, Brian Walker sits down with Michelle Travis, Director of SEO at Shop Marketing Pros, to break down a question more and more shop owners are asking: Why does content need to be so long?
They dig into how longer-form content is outperforming the old 500-word blog strategy, what Google and AI tools are favoring now, and why those extra words aren’t fluff; they’re fuel for better visibility, stronger trust signals, and showing up everywhere your potential cust...
Scaling Your Marketing As You Scale Your Shop [E169]
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Ryan Grace and David Gibson, former techs turned shop owners, join host Brian Walker to share how they built Pleasant Automotive in Wake Forest, NC. They started with a website before they even had a location. With no deep pockets or big investors, they focused on smart, strategic marketing moves that helped them grow fast without wasting money.
Brian dives into their decision-making process, from ditching direct mail to doubling down on Google LSAs, and how strong phone skills turned casual calls into loyal customers. They talk...