B2B Marketing Podcast
Episode 211: Your B2B podcast isnât failing, itâs just being measured wrong
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands sits down with Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better â a podcast marketing agency focused on turning podcasts into pipeline. Jason shares the career journey that shaped his core belief: true differentiation comes from a strong point of view and the people behind it. From there, the conversation dives into how Covid-19 reshaped B2B podcasting and the common pitfalls many brands still fall into today. One of the biggest? Relying on impressions and downloads as success metrics. They explore why podcasts often go off track due to u...
Episode 210: How AI is rewriting the rules of content and brand strategy
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh sits down with Dan Miles, Executive Vice President at The Hoffman Agency, to explore the growing impact of AI on brand and content strategies. They kick off the conversation by examining how buyers are changing the way they research solutions and whether organic traffic is really on the decline (spoiler: it isnât). The discussion also looks at the early warning signs that a company is already becoming invisible in generative AI outputs, and which brands are best positioned to win in this new marketing landscape. This epis...
Episode 209: European ABM Forum Teaser: Why your ABM program needs consistency and flexibility
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh sat down with Anna Pfeifhofer, ABM Lead - Global ABM, HPE, to discuss her upcoming session at the European ABM Forum. We kick off the session by discussing why ABM teams might be struggling in todayâs current marketing landscape. From there, Anna discusses why having a very rigid ABM setup can actually set up teams to fail. On the flip side, she also touches on why having too much flexibility can create chaos. If youâre looking for that sweet spot of consistency and flexibility in a matu...
Episode 208: Gold, Grand Prix and No BS: Inside Workbooksâ winning campaign
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh sat down with Dan Roche and John Cheney from Workbooks to discuss their Gold wins at the 2025 B2B Marketing Awards. Workbooks won the Gold award for âBest brand initiative under 100kâ as well as the âGrand Prixâ for their No BS CRM campaign. Joined by Dan Roche, CMO, Workbooks and John Cheney, CEO, Workbooks, this episode covers everything about their award-winning campaign. Dan and John reveal how a fearless creative approach helped them stand out in a crowded CRM market, how they navigated board-level scepticism, and how the ca...
Episode 207: Inside award-winning B2B campaigns and what they mean for marketing in 2026
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands spoke with Paul Collier, CMO, FunnelFuel; Chris Omotosho, Managing Director, UK, Gravity Global; Nick Watmough, Executive Creative Director, The Croc; and Jon Buckthorp, Commercial Director, Differentiated. As we close out 2025, it only felt right to end with a conversation inspired by the yearâs standout work. Drawing on insights from across agency, brand and creative leadership, the panel discusses what made this yearâs award-winning campaigns at the B2B Marketing Awards resonate. The conversation opens with a focus on the growing role of emotion and creativity in B2B...
Episode 206: How to create high-performing teams and resource networks, with HelloKindred
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast in association with HelloKindred, Kavita Singh is joined by Roland Glass, Chief Commercial Officer, HelloKindred as well as Sarah Thomas, the Group Chief Marketing Officer, EVP, over at Capgemini. Off the back of the Propolis Leaderâs Forum, they dig into what truly drives high-performing marketing teams, from adaptability and intellectual curiosity to data fluency and modern leadership behaviors. Roland also breaks down how a resource network works, why it differs from traditional org structures, and how dynamic resourcing can unlock real agility. Stick around to the end to hear...
Episode 205: Vanessa Schotes, CMO, Enfuce, shares her philosophy for being a commercial marketer
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing caught up with Vanessa Schotes, CMO, Enfuce. Shortlisted for B2B Marketer of the Year at the 2025 B2B Marketing Awards, Vanessa explains how marketing helped drive 450% growth in new territories and achieve a marketing ROI of 5:1. If you want to attend the B2B Marketing Awards ceremony in London this year, you can find out more information here: https://events.b2bmarketing.net/b2bawards
Episode 204: Fast, simple, trusted: Whatâs driving modern B2B buying decisions
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands sits down with Tom Setter, Strategy Partner at Dentsu B2B, to unpack the latest Superpowers Index, Dentsu B2Bâs global study of over 16,000 B2B buyers and 35,000 buying experiences. The report reveals the 30 decision drivers shaping B2B purchasing right now, highlighting the trends, shifts, and constants in what matters most to buyers. Tom sheds light on the biggest drivers, whatâs changed (and not changed) year-on-year, and what B2B marketers can do right now to make 2026 their most commercially impactful year to date. You can down...
Episode 203: Stop shouting: Why your demand fails without a braver story
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast in association with Brands2Life, Kavita Singh, Head of Growth Solutions Content spoke with Tim Corcoran, Managing Director, Marketing & Creative Services, Brands2Life and Sally Jacobs, Senior Director of Social Media & Advocacy, Qlik. The episode kicks off with the trio discussing the current competitive landscape of B2B marketing, underscoring why itâs difficult to stand out and what brands can do to feel original. They highlight the relationship between brand and demand, emphasizing the need for both authenticity and strategic partnerships while also addressing the role of AI in e...
Episode 202: Inside belief, thought theatre and content dysmorphia, with Differentiated
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast in association with Differentiated, we are joined by Jon Buckthorp, Commercial Director, Differentiated to discuss the agency's latest report: Art & Science: Exploring new horizons built on belief. The conversation begins with a thought-provoking look at the difference between trust and belief, before Jon shares some striking findings from their in-depth research. For example, did you know that decision-makers are spending around two hours a day engaging with marketing material, yet many donât finish what they start, and two thirds never make it to the conclusion? This was just one...
Episode 201: Everything you need to know about strategy planning in 2026
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast in association with Revere, we dive into the essentials for strategic and financial planning as we head into 2026. Weâre joined by Fiona McKenzie, CEO, Revere to chat about everything from why you should be starting with your business vision to the key to tailoring your plans to your C-suite and much more. But thatâs not all. We also explore smart budgeting moves every marketer should be making. If youâre not already setting aside a slice of your budget for creative, in-the-moment opportunities, youâll definitely rethink your appro...
Episode 200: The sweet sound of success in audio branding, with Neil Montgomery
Did you know that 95% of brands lack a solid sound identity? If youâve never given much thought around audio branding, then this podcast episode is a must-listen. In this episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing spoke with Neil Montgomery, Audio Brander, Almost Nothing Audio Branding. To kick off the episode, Neil shares his journey from a music degree to a sales role and a big four accounting firm, before transitioning to audio branding. He discusses the impact of audio branding on brand recognition, citing Intel's 1995 jingle and Netflix's audio logo as...
Episode 199: A look inside the 2025 B2B Marketing Awards shortlist
Weâve just announced our 2025 B2B Marketing Awards Shortlist, and we are joined by FunnelFuel, Differentiated, Gravity Global and The Croc to break down some of the juicy details behind this yearâs theme and campaigns. In this podcast episode, we were joined by Sarah Townsend, Head of Growth & Innovation, The Croc; Chris Omotosho, Managing Director, UK, Gravity Global; Paul Collier, CMO, FunnelFuel; and finally last but not least Jon Buckthorp, Commercial Director, Differentiated. The group discussion kicks off with an overarching look at the B2B industry and how it has led to compelling campaigns that are data-back, crea...
Episode 198: Why B2B strategy needs a little magick: Escaping the data trap, with Lesniak Swann
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh spoke to Matt Hicks, Strategy Director, Lesniak Swann to describe the data trap that marketers often fall into when creating campaigns. In our podcast episode, Matt does validate the importance of data, but stresses that data alone can lead to dogma, and dogma doesnât make for effective marketing. The two also chat about everything from why strategists love data so much to the metrics that need to be measured beyond the standard KPIs. If that wasnât enough, Matt uses a metaphorical sandwich and the great magici...
Episode 197: Want to integrate AI into your business strategy? We spoke to Jake Bird to find out how
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing spoke with Jake Bird, Director, JI Marketing to discuss the importance of AI readiness and strategy. They discuss why AI should be woven into your operations not treated as a side project and the risks of relying too heavily on sales bots or overlooking legal issues with AI-driven content. Plus, if you want to find out Jakeâs view on the future of AI in marketing, we recommend staying tuned until the very end of this weekâs episode.
Episode 196: Exploring creativity, data and the new rules of engagement, with Omne
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Head of Growth Solutions Content, B2B Marketing, spoke with Omne about the evolution of brand into a data growth engine. We were joined by Michael Gividen, CEO, Omne and Anna Massey, Strategy Director, Omne who chatted about everything from the fading relevance of persona marketing to the rise of more creative B2B strategies and the shifting role of influence in the modern B2B landscape. We also dive into what B2B marketers can learn from FMCG brands; plus, stick around for insights on the fu...
Episode 195: How to make your rebrand stand out in a sea of sameness, with Jada Balster
In this weekâs episode, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing spoke with Jada Balster, VP Global Marketing, TravelPerk to discuss all things rebranding. They first chat about Jadaâs experience with other companies such as Workfront and Adobe before jumping into TravelPerkâs recent rebrand. If youâre looking to create allies in the boardroom, impact sales cycles with a strong brand and understand rebrandingâs strategy beyond the design, we highly recommend checking out this weekâs episode. In addition, find out how the new brand is working out over at TravelPerk, including their overhaul on demand gen c...
Episode 194: How to get on the B2B buyerâs shortlist before the buying even begins
Oftentimes, B2B buyers have a list of vendors in mind before theyâve even started the purchase process. So how can brands make sure theyâre on that list and increase their chances of winning the deal? In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Head of Growth Solutions Content, B2B Marketing spoke with Matt Hicks, the Strategy Director at Lesniak Swann to unpack this very topic. They dive into how brands can build early awareness through standout content and thought leadership, which channels are most effective, and what metrics actually matter. Plus, if you...
Episode 193: From startups to CMO: Inside Scott Leathermanâs journey with sales, the CRO and AI
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing, sits down with Scott Leatherman, the newly appointed CMO of Aviatrix, to explore his career journey and unpack some of the most pressing topics in B2B marketing today. Scott shares his early experiences in Silicon Valleyâs startup scene and how they shaped his path to becoming a CMO. He also dives into his first strategic moves in the role - strengthening the marketing team and partnering with agencies, Clear Digital and Global Results Communications. Beyond his professional journey, Scott disc...
Episode 192: How to stay ahead of the AI curve: Insights from Bidwellsâ Ben Lee
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing spoke with Ben Lee, Head of Data & AI, Bidwells ahead of his upcoming sessions at B2B Ignite 2025. Ben shares his journey into the world of AIâstarting with tools like Jasperâand how heâs gone on to integrate AI into his work at Bidwells, even taking home the Gold for âBest Use of AIâ at our 2023 B2B Marketing Awards. And if you havenât jumped on the AI bandwagon yet, Ben offers insights into how AI can empower your marketing...
Episode 191: How to incorporate agentic AI into your ABM journey, with Hut 3
What is agentic AI? And why is it important? In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we spoke to Hut 3 about the very topic and how it can be implemented in the various ABM stages. Weâre joined by Darryl Merkli, Head of AI Studio & Services, Hut 3 and Andy Johnson, Founder and Director, Hut 3. The trio discuss everything from how Hut 3 built their own agentic AI workflows to striking the balance between the human touch and AI technology. Plus, if you want to find out Hut 3âs top tips when it comes to AI data privacy, stay t...
Episode 190: Championing collaboration and commercial growth, with Canonâs Khalid Aziz
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, spoke with Khalid Aziz, Marketing Director B2B, Canon, UK & Ireland. Khalid discusses his journey with Canon while highlighting the company's diverse product portfolio. In addition, he also touches on the impact of hybrid working on Canon's sales strategy, emphasizing digital workflow solutions and cybersecurity measures. Plus, he shares why collaboration across departments can lead to business growth and profitability. If youâre looking to shift your mindset around commercial success, we highly recommend checking out our Propolis Strategy Pack on Commercial Marketing here: http...
Episode 189: Aligning purpose and culture into your rebranding strategy, with Sarah Roberts
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, sat down with Sarah Roberts, Group CMO, Boldyn Networks to discuss her rebranding strategy over the past two years. She discussed how the company was able to emphasize authenticity to align with the company's culture and purpose; thus, delivering a 40% increase in brand score and an 8% rise in website traffic in the first year, along with improved lead generation and digital strategy success. In addition, the two talked about how the relationship between the CPO and CMO is extremely crucial for maintaining consistency in ho...
Episode 188: Is B2B the new frontline of FMCG brand growth?
In this weekâs episode of the podcast, Kavita Singh, Senior Content Editor, B2B Marketing spoke to Omne about fast-moving consumer goods (FMCGs) from a B2B perspective. Joining her was Anna Massey, Strategy Director, Omne and Scott Sinfield, Creative Strategist, Omne who both discussed how and why B2B has made its way into big FMCGs. They also talk about how brand loyalty differs from B2B vs B2C, why the FMCG space is getting smarter in terms of being data-driven, as well as the strategic changes brands need to consider. Plus, if you want to find ou...
Episode 187: How Verizon's Iris Meijer gets the most out of tech, without losing the human touch
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands caught up with Iris Meijer, Chief Marketing & Product Officer at Verizon. David and Iris talk about the importance of becoming a commercial marketer, and why the relationship with your product team is absolutely critical. Iris also talks through how she approaches rolling out AI at Verizon, without losing that human-to-human, emotional connection that is so important for building real connections and trust with your audience. If youâd like to learn more about how you can become a commercial marketer, just head here: https://www.b2bmarketing.net/propolis/co...
Episode 186: From the factory floor to the boardroom: Monica Kumar, EVP and CMO, Extreme Networks
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands caught up with Monica Kumar, EVP and CMO of Extreme Networks - a leader in cloud networking. Monica talks through her engineering background, and how she moved her way up from the factory floor all the way to leadership in the boardroom. They talk through how marketing has evolved over the past five years and the need for marketers to put stories at the heart of everything they do. If youâd like to check out our âCommercial Marketer Strategy Packâ discussed on this episode, you can find this here...
Episode 185: How Omne broke into the Top 10 UK Agencies in 2025
In this weekâs episode, Kavita Singh, Senior Content Editor, B2B Marketing spoke with the Omne team about their growth over the past few years as well as its placement in our most recent benchmarking report. Weâre joined by Michael Gividen, CEO, Omne; Rebecca Lewis-Stanton, Director of Client Growth, Omne; and Chris Davies, Managing Director, Omne. In our 2025 UK Agencies Benchmarking Report, Omne landed in the top 10 agencies with the highest gross income - and off the back of such an achievement, we wanted to chat with them to find out the secrets to their success. We chatted to t...
Episode 184: How to lead an award-winning marketing team, with Benefexâs Sally Winter
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we spoke to Benefex about their joint Gold win for âB2B Marketing team of the yearâ at our 2024 B2B Marketing Awards. We sat down with Sally Winter, Marketing Director, Benefex to reveal all. We kicked off the conversation by discussing the structure of Benefexâs team and how they were able to experience a huge amount of growth in just a few years. In addition, Sally touches on how to find the right people to deliver on the marketing strategy. Plus, they also talk about how to use your...
Episode 183: JLLâs Global CMO talks AI, his role, and the key to a commercially impactful strategy
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands catches up with Siddharth Taparia, Global CMO of real estate advisors and professionals, JLL. David and Siddharth talk through the role of a Global CMO at a Fortune 500 company, how Siddharth builds (and measures) commercial marketing strategies, and how JLL is using AI to drive efficiency and effectiveness in everything they do.
Episode 182: How Rooster Punk & Allica Bank put on âcreative hatsâ to make an award-winning campaign
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we spoke with Paul Cash, Founder, Rooster Punk and Georgie Burks, Brand Manager, Allica Bank to discuss their award-winning campaign âGet your money hat onâ. The campaign won the Gold for âBest use of creativeâ and the Bronze for âBest brand initiativeâ at our 2024 B2B Marketing Awards. We break down everything from what the win meant for both Rooster Punk and Allica Bank to how they were able to produce such a creative concept using a bowler hat. Find out how Rooster Punk was able to achieve 60 million impressions wi...
Episode 181: Want to win UK agency of the year? Here's how The Think Tank did it
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we spoke with The Think Tank about their win for âUK B2B agency of the yearâ at our 2024 B2B Marketing Awards. We were joined by Liam Bateman, Founder & Managing Director, The Think Tank and Ros Rowlatt, Digital Media Director, The Think Tank. The duo discuss everything from how they executed one of their most successful campaigns to how they were able to upskill their employees through a unique training program. If that wasnât enough, Liam shares his top tip if youâre looking to become an award-winn...
Episode 180: How to take on an agile approach in the new digital marketing era with FunnelFuel
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we spoke to Paul Collier, CMO, FunnelFuel to discuss the current digital advertising landscape in 2025. Last year, we reflected on the demise of third-party cookies in bespoke research with FunnelFuel, and this year, weâre looking beyond cookies and addressing tangible solutions for marketers. We discuss everything from IP targeting and curation platforms to contextual advertising and much more. Plus, if you want to find out the mindset marketers should be having when it comes to privacy regulations, this episode is unmissable. To see all the insights we discovered last...
Episode 179: The secrets to becoming B2B marketer of the year, with Matt Allen
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands catches up with Matt Allen, Director of Business Development & Marketing at real estate adviser Bidwells. In November 2024, Matt was awarded Marketer of the Year at our annual B2B Marketing Awards for his outstanding work at Bidwells, which put the company at the heart of a ÂŁ60 billion opportunity for the economy. In this episode, David and Matt talk through Mattâs approach to B2B marketing, the specifics of the aforementioned initiative, and why great commercial marketers think about the business first, and marketing second. If youâre interested in le...
Episode 177: Who Won Big At The B2B Marketing Awards? We Did A Deep Dive
In this weekâs exciting episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, we broke down the B2B Marketing Award winners with a lovely lineup of guests including Jason Talbot, Managing Director, The Croc, Colin Wheeler, Managing Director, Survey Solutions, Paul Collier, Fractional CMO, FunnelFuel and lastly Rich Watts, Board Member & Co-Founder, SiteBox. We sat down to discuss all the highlights from âBest use of customer insightâ to âB2B marketer of the yearâ and âB2B marketing team of the yearâ. Plus, they share some of their favorite moments from the evening as well as what the winners say about the indu...
Episode 178: Lessons for launching a successful global B2B brand campaign with Radish
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Senior Content Editor, B2B Marketing spoke with the Radish team about some of the global brand campaigns theyâve achieved. From the key to gaining C-suite buy-in on a global scale to their brilliant KellyOCG âNo Fluffâ campaign, this episode is jam-packed with insights from Head of Strategy, Chris Willocks, Radish and Renaye Edwards, Co-founder and MD, Radish. If that wasnât enough, they also share some advice on how to keep your stakeholders aligned when operating in different regions across the globe.
Episode 176: We asked AI to evaluate award-worthy ABM campaigns â Here's what happened
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing, spoke with Robert Norum, ABM & Demand Strategy Expert, Propolis, to talk about some ABM trends and patterns this year. And with our 2024 B2B Marketing Awards on the horizon, we fed every submission for our âBest use of ABMâ category through secure AI technology. And the results? Robert and Dave discuss everything from why thought leadership and ABM go hand-in-hand to whether or not intent data is a must-have in your ABM programs. Plus - are digital transformation, sustainability the future of ABM...
Episode 175: Pipeline to paycheck: Overcoming B2B marketing recruitment challenges
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Senior Content Editor, B2B Marketing, spoke with a handful of marketing leaders about the challenges with both recruitment and retention in B2B marketing. This episode in association with Hello Kindred features Sarah Thomas, Group Chief Marketing Officer, EVP, Capgemini; Roland Glass, Chief Commercial Officer, Hello Kindred; and Nick Burbidge, Managing Director, 368. They delve into everything from the challenges that exist in the B2B industry to how to encourage your employeesâ growth and traits to look for in potential candidates. In addition, the trio also cite...
Episode 174: Leading a B2B marketing transformation, with Pearsonâs Rachel Exton
In this episode of The B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands caught up with Rachel Exton, VP of Global Marketing at Pearson English Language Learning. Rachel chats through the recent transformation she led within the marketing organisation, explaining the steps she went through, as well the core things all B2B marketers should keep in mind.
Episode 173: Striking an emotional chord: Inside an award-winning campaign, with Park & Battery
In this weekâs episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Senior Content Editor, B2B Marketing, spoke with Michael Ruby and Greg Cavaluzzo from Park & Battery to discuss their Gold win at the 2024 B2B Marketing Elevation Awards for âBest use of contentâ. The trio discuss everything from how music therapy can impact oneâs mental health to how they were able to obtain significant media placements pro bono and much more. And if that wasnât enough, Michael and Greg share the key learnings from the campaign and some advice for those entering award season. Speaking of awards...
Episode 172: How Trilliad is pioneering a new generation of revenue services companies
How do you build a B2B growth services business from scratch? That was the key question that we wanted to ask Craig Dempster, the founding CEO of Trilliad, which has announced its arrival with a clutch of acquisitions (including 2023 Global B2B Agency of the Year Just Global) and the promise of more to follow. We interviewed Craig for the latest episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, where we discussed the significance of Trilliadâs strategy to build a services business that could deliver against the entire B2B growth agenda â meaning encompassing services for sales and customer succ...