The Awkward In-between

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By: Dave Schenk & DAMIEN

What do you do when the beliefs that once gave you certainty no longer work? How do you cope when you have questions surrounding a popular idea, but don't feel safe to express them? Why is it that society seems more polarised than ever, and yet you don't feel comfortable with either extreme? These questions and more drive the hosts of this podcast. Meet Dave Schenk and DAMIEN, two individuals who are both on the long hard journey of questioning their once held certainties, as they are joined by a variety of guests who also find themselves in 'the awkward...

'Stop the podcast right NOW!' with Rae Leigh
#9
09/25/2022

Rae Leigh is an Australian country singer who had her first number one hit in 2022 with the song ‘Push ‘Em Up Jill’ - a cheeky comedy song about a nurse who would use her cleavage to get her way.

In this episode we discuss some of the awkward tension that can exist in the sexual space, particularly in the context of power, manipulation and control.


'Being the leftist guy in a right wing party' with Anthony Bishop
#8
09/11/2022

Anthony Bishop got involved in politics because he was concerned about the welfare of children in Queensland, particularly those in Foster Care. However, the political space is often one that is tarnished with discord, disharmony and bickering.

Since their first meeting at a music event, Damien and Anthony have often discussed how politics can be more respectful and civil in the discussions. The fact that they were each members of parties on the opposite side of the political spectrum never superseded their beliefs in the dignity of all humans and the desire to engage in healthy connection...


Bonus conversation with Steve Meyerink & Karl Hand
08/31/2022

After we finished recording our 'official' episode 7 chat with Steve & Karl the conversation continued, and the discussion was so good we couldn't resist making it available for everyone!

Checkout Crave Church here: http://www.cravemcc.com/


'Don't operate video cameras with your genitals' with Steve Meyerink & Karl Hand
#7
08/29/2022

Steve Meyerink has been a friend of Dave's for more than 20 years, often working together on the technical side of events both big & small. When Steve publicly announced his relationship with Karl Hand it sparked something of a faith crisis for Dave and his family as they wrestled with LGBT issues from a conservative Christian perspective.

Together Karl & Steve serve the community of CRAVE church in the City of Sydney. The church is actively engaged in home groups, outreach to the LGBT community, and food-relief ministry in public housing.

Karl is a published academic, specialising...


'Is life really about believing the right things?' with Brady Toops
#6
08/15/2022

Pro baseball player, world touring singer songwriter, Bachelorette contestant, podcaster... Brady Toops bio is nothing if not diverse.

Brady has certainly wrestled with the awkward in-between as he has journeyed from Evangelical Christianity in small town USA to various forms of what gets called "success", exploring spirituality both philosophically and chemically, and finding his way back to appreciating the beauty in everything, even in his roots.

Brady used to think that life was about believing the 'right' things, but now he says that he knows pretty much nothing, and he is ok with that!

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'Jesus would definitely have known who Metallica was' with Chad Johnson
#5
08/01/2022

Chad Johnson was the founder of Furnace Fest in the early 2000s and A&R guy for some of Tooth & Nail Records' biggest bands for nearly 7 years before essentially walking away from the music industry to pursue something more akin to Christian missions.

In 2021, Chad was responsible for what was supposed to be a one-off Furnace Fest reunion, which was so successful that the team decided to go again in 2022.

Check out Furnace Fest here: https://www.furnacefest.us/

Chad's book "One Thousand Risks" is available on Amazon.


'Working out what DOESN'T matter' with Leanne Hutton
#4
07/18/2022

Leanne Hutton introduces herself as a 61 year old lady with three adult daughters, but she believes her 'ministry' is empathy, something Leanne has found church people tend to 'suck' at!

Leanne says that her God is neither male nor female, is scientific, although she has no problem with the idea of miracles, and definitely is not an old white man in a castle on the clouds handing out gifts.

Dave & Damien chat to Leanne about the wilderness as metaphor for the awkward in-between, feminism, Leanne's favourite TV show and so much more.


"Two white guys trying to kill less narwhals" with Dave Schenk & DAMIEN
#1
07/04/2022

Dave Schenk & Damien Johnson have asked themselves whether the world needs to hear from two more middle-aged white guys. Clearly the answer is no, but they have started a podcast anyway!

With many questions, and certain about very little, Dave & Damo discuss why they hope and think that this podcast might still have some value.


"Getting white men to shut up and listen" with Caleb Hart
#3
07/04/2022

A mystical experience of God as love changed Caleb Hart deeply, from a man who wanted to hit people to one who just wanted to hug them & tell them that God loved them.

Born in Trinidad and Tobago, Caleb went on to start the Canadian reggae band (yes you heard us correctly!), Tasman Jude, and become a regular visitor to Australia as they toured their music across thousands of kilometres of the country.

You can find Caleb & his music in all the normal places via his Link Tree here: https://linktr.ee/iamcalebhart


"Never part of the club" with Paul Colman
#2
07/04/2022

British born, Australian raised and living in USA, Paul Colman is a multi-instrumentalist, singer and songwriter who Wikipedia says "has made a name for himself as a Christian musician independently, with his band the Paul Colman Trio, as a solo artist, and as part of the Newsboys." Despite all this, and growing up as a pastor's kid, Paul says he "always heard church culture as an outsider."

Paul's love of metaphor and story, and a Jesus who seems to be at odds with much of modern church culture has meant he has often felt like he is...


'The Awkward In-between' teaser - season one launches July 5, 2022
06/14/2022

What do you do when the beliefs that once gave you certainty no longer work? How do you cope when you have questions surrounding a popular idea, but don't feel safe to express them? Why is it that society seems more polarised than ever, and yet you don't seem to fit into either extreme?

These questions and more drive the hosts of this podcast. Meet Dave Schenk and DAMIEN, two individuals who have both had to go through the trauma of questioning their once held certainties, as they are joined by a variety of guests who also...