The Art of Adjusting® Podcast

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By: William Auten & Chantal Roberts

Dive deep into the world of insurance claims with our podcast, newly rebranded as "The Art of Adjusting®"—a title echoing the revered book of the same name. This revamped podcast is not just a beacon for professionals navigating the adjuster landscape but also a wealth of insights for those curious about the intricacies of the industry.We're thrilled to announce that Bill Auten, owner of Auten Claims Management, will now share the mic with a stellar co-host, Chantal Roberts. Chantal isn’t just the brilliant mind behind the book 'The Art of Adjusting®'; she's also the powerhouse owner of CMR...

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Episode 107: Negotiation Lessons From 10,000 Insurance Claims
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Negotiation gets blamed for a lot of bad claims outcomes, but the real culprit is usually something simpler: weak investigation and unclear documentation. We sit down to share negotiation lessons we’ve learned across thousands of insurance claims and why “because I said so” collapses the moment a claimant, attorney, contractor, or public adjuster pushes back.

We walk through the signals that tell us when it’s time to negotiate, when it’s too early, and when the other side is quietly preparing for litigation. From liability and bodily injury to property c...


Episode 106 - The Next Generation of Investigation
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10/26/2026

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Evidence used to be a handful of photos and a recorded statement. Now it can be a doorbell clip, a dash cam angle, a neighborhood app thread, body camera footage, satellite history, and a metadata trail that tells you exactly when that “proof” was created. We dig into what that shift means for real-world liability investigations and why the best adjusters stay curious, skeptical, and organized even when the tools get smarter.

We talk through practical ways insurance adjusters are using AI in claims adjusting without handing over the steering wheel. That...


Episode #105 - Can Claims Ever Be Truly Objective?
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10/09/2026

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Adjusters are expected to be objective, but is true objectivity even possible when every claim requires judgment?

In this episode of The Art of Adjusting® Podcast, Bill and Chantal explore how confirmation bias, anchoring, and preconceived notions can influence claim investigations. They discuss the importance of distinguishing facts from inferences and opinions, challenging initial assumptions, and evaluating favorable and unfavorable evidence by the same standard.

From police reports and witness statements to prior adjuster notes, even seemingly reliable information can influence how a claim is investigated.

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Episode # 104 - Your Claim Notes Aren't Good Enough
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09/24/2026

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Are your claim notes actually documenting the claim—or are they just repeating information that already exists somewhere else in the file?

In this episode of The Art of Adjusting®, Chantal Roberts looks at what makes a claim note useful and why simply copying and pasting an email into the notes may not be enough.

A good claim file should allow someone to reconstruct what happened, but that includes more than communications and activity. Your notes should also document what the information means to the claim, what you intend to...


Episode #103 - The Economics of Independent Adjusting
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09/10/2026

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Independent adjusters are part of the claims process—but what exactly are carriers buying when they hire one?

Bill Auten takes a practical look at the independent adjusting business, from property adjusters working on fee schedules to liability investigators billing by the hour. He explains how carriers use IAs to add temporary capacity, fill geographic gaps, preserve evidence, conduct field investigations, and free staff adjusters to focus on the work that most needs their expertise.

The episode also goes inside the economics of independent adjusting: fee splits, expenses, utilization, ov...


Episode #102 - The Million-Dollar File Starts Day One
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08/27/2026

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One missing piece of evidence can turn a clear claim into a costly argument, and it usually happens fast. We break down the idea of the “million-dollar file” and why the most important decisions often get made on day one, long before depositions, experts, or mediation show up.

I walk through what strong evidence retention looks like in real investigations: identifying what actually matters, moving quickly to preserve it, and avoiding evidence spoliation claims that can damage credibility and limit defenses. We talk about practical realities too, like confirming who owns an i...


Episode #101: Assume Less And Investigate Better
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08/13/2026

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The quickest way a claim goes sideways is not a coverage dispute or a tough claimant. It’s one small word that sneaks into our thinking and hardens into “truth” before we’ve earned it: assume. We talk candidly about how assumptions show up in real insurance adjusting work and why they lead to extra work, bad decisions, and sometimes lawsuits when new facts surface later in discovery or deposition.

We get specific about where bias starts, especially in the first loss notice. Agents and insureds may write a convincing narrative using ev...


Episode #100: How Two Adjusters Built A Podcast
07/30/2026

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Episode 100 lands with a twist: we’re finally recording together in person for the first time. After years of remote calls, we sit down with cake, swag, and a live “peanut gallery” to tell the origin story of how The Art of Adjusting Podcast grew from random conversations into a claims adjusting show that now reaches thousands of listeners.

We talk about how we actually met, starting with LinkedIn and a shared love of old-school noir, then moving to Clubhouse during COVID when live audio rooms felt like talk radio for insura...


Episode #99: Are Multi-Line Adjusters Going Extinct?
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07/16/2026

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Multi-line adjuster, generalist, all-lines, specialist, mono-line, GA, TPA, IA, carrier claims. We hear these labels all the time, but they don’t mean much until you map them to real work, real stress, and real career options.

Bill Auten and Chantal Roberts dig into whether multi-line adjusters are “still a thing” and why the answer depends on where you work. Big carriers often push specialization because training thousands of people across multiple lines is expensive and hard to control. Smaller carriers, mutual insurers, and independent adjusting firms still need people who can ju...


Episode #98: How Insurance Adjusters Get The Full Story With Recorded Statements
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07/02/2026

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People hear “recorded statement” and assume it’s a trap. We don’t see it that way, and if you work in claims adjusting, you shouldn’t either. Bill Auten (Auten Claims Management) and Chantal Roberts (CMR Consulting) lay out what a recorded statement is really for: a clear, professional record of what happened that helps you investigate the claim, preserve evidence, and make the right call on liability, coverage, and damages.

We get practical about preparation before you ever hit record: knowing your claim file, planning your roadmap without clinging to a scrip...


Episode #97: CMS Reporting And Medicare Liens For Liability Claims
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06/18/2026

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A “quick” injury claim can turn into a compliance puzzle the moment Medicare or Medicaid enters the picture and if you miss it, the consequences can be expensive. We get practical about CMS, Medicare Secondary Payer rules, and what adjusters actually need to do on day one so a settlement does not blow up later.

We walk through the Big Five identifiers we ask claimants for, why people understandably get suspicious, and how to explain the request without sounding like a scammer or hiding behind acronyms. Then we translate the jargon: Sect...


Episode #96: The Bad Faith Warning Signs
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06/04/2026

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Bad faith doesn’t usually arrive as one dramatic blow-up. It shows up as a slow drip of little things: the voicemail that never gets returned, the approval that sits in someone’s queue, the vague diary note that makes sense only to the person who wrote it, and the template letter that accidentally says more than it should.

We talk through the practical warning signs we see when a claim is headed toward escalation, complaint, or litigation. We dig into how understaffed claims departments force adjusters into triage, why vacation sche...


Episode #95: How Much Liability Are You Hosting This Weekend?
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05/21/2026

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Memorial Day weekend has a way of turning “just one quick favor” into a full-blown claim file. We start with a simple scenario: you borrow a friend’s car to grab ice and something goes wrong. From there, we unpack permissive use, when auto insurance follows the car versus the person, and why household access to keys can quietly expand who counts as an insured under the policy definition.

Then we shift into uninsured motorist and underinsured motorist coverage, where your own carrier can end up acting like the at-fault carrier. That o...


Episode 94: Summer Liability Basics For Adjusters
05/07/2026

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A lawn mower throws a rock through a car window. A kid hops a fence to grab a baseball near a backyard pool. A trampoline turns one “fun afternoon” into a catastrophic injury demand. Summer liability claims love to masquerade as simple, and that’s exactly when adjusters get burned by policy language.

We dig into the fundamentals we rely on when analyzing homeowners liability and similar third-party claims: who qualifies as an insured, what “resident relative” really means, and how a live-in partner or a college-aged child can create instant coverage i...


Episode 93: Contractor Damage, Subrogation, And Smarter Claim Handling
04/23/2026

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Spring doesn’t just bring warmer weather, it brings a whole new wave of claims problems: roofers canvassing neighborhoods, frozen-pipe losses getting repaired, and construction crews breaking ground. We sit down and get specific about what adjusters and policyholders need to watch for when repairs start, because the repair work itself can create brand-new damage. When that happens, you may be looking at two separate dates of loss, a first-party property claim, and a third-party liability claim against the contractor, all at the same time.

We also dig into why “just file...


Episode 92: Spring Storm Claim Playbook
04/09/2026

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Spring storms don’t just damage property, they scramble the story of what happened. One day it’s hail. The next it’s wind-driven rain. Then a ceiling stain shows up weeks later and everyone argues whether it’s a new loss, wear and tear, or “damage creep.” We walk through how we actually sort these files out in the field, especially when the insured sees one big problem but the evidence points to multiple incidents, multiple deductibles, and a timeline that has to be proven with photos and attic inspection.

We dig into...


Episode 91: How To Adjust Frozen Pipe Losses Without Missing Coverage
03/26/2026

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Frozen pipe losses are one of those claims that look simple on the surface, right up until the policy language and the facts start fighting each other. Today we walk through the biggest freeze-claim mistake we see: treating a burst-from-freezing pipe like a routine accidental discharge loss and automatically excluding the pipe repair, even when freezing is the covered cause of loss. If you adjust homeowners insurance (HO3) or commercial property claims, this is the kind of detail that changes the whole outcome. 

We also get practical about the condition that t...


Episode 90: Warming Up The Zamboni For Espinal
03/14/2026

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A slip on ice can look like a small accident until you see what it turns into on a claim file: multiple defendants, competing contracts, fading memories, and a fight over what the weather actually did at one exact address. We get into why snow removal contractors are often treated like the default villain, and how a solid liability analysis starts with the boring stuff that saves you later: reading the policy, reading the snow contract, and tracking who promised what to whom.

We talk through common contract trigger language like...


Episode #89: Deposition Survival For Adjusters
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02/27/2026

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Ever felt your file work turn into a courtroom minefield? We sit down with a clinical neuropsychologist who coaches witnesses to break down why depositions are adversarial even when they sound friendly, and how adjusters can protect credibility without oversharing. From honey and vinegar to the Columbo “play dumb” tactic, we map the playbook plaintiffs use to trigger fight-or-flight—and the tools you need to stay calm, concise, and consistent.

We draw a sharp line between fact witnesses and corporate representatives, explaining why mixing roles creates contradictions that haunt future cases. You’ll...


Episode #88: Winter Heat, Cold Pipes, and Hot Claims: Investigating Seasonal Losses
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02/13/2026

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Winter brings more than snow and high heating bills. It brings puffback claims, chimney fires, frozen pipes, temporary heating setups, and a steady stream of liability questions.

In this episode, William and Chantal break down common winter-related losses and what adjusters should be looking for from day one. They discuss oil furnace puffbacks, improper fireplace and wood stove installations, frozen pipe damage, and the risks tied to space heaters and overloaded power strips. The conversation moves beyond surface-level handling and into the investigative mindset required to properly document cause, identify potential...


Episode #87: Speed Limits Aren’t Permission Slips In A Storm
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01/29/2026

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Storm clouds don’t just darken the sky, they raise the duty of care. We dig into how snow, ice, fog, and heavy rain change what “reasonable” looks like behind the wheel and at the claim desk. From multi-car pileups to slow-speed parking lot crashes, we break down how to evaluate negligence when the surface and sight lines won’t play fair, why “I was going the speed limit” can still be careless, and how to separate traffic citations from true liability.

We trade real-world scenarios that every adjuster recognizes: black ice that loo...


Episode #86: Anatomy of a Slip and Fall Claim
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01/15/2026

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A slick floor, a hard fall, and suddenly everyone asks the same question: who pays? We open the claims toolbox and walk through slip and fall cases step by step, showing how quick evidence work, clear liability analysis, and smart communication shape the outcome. From icy sidewalks to grocery spills, we explain the differences that matter and the proof that sticks.

First, we dig into scene preservation and notice. You’ll hear why photos and security video are gold, how floor-walk logs can narrow exposure, and when a “storm in progress” protec...


Episode #85: Negligence Is A Mistake; Bad Faith Is A Pattern
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01/01/2026

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Want a practical blueprint to avoid bad faith and close cleaner files? We dig into the real-world habits that separate defensible claims work from patterns that draw regulator heat and lawsuits. Starting with a crisp definition—negligence is a mistake; bad faith is a repeated choice—we map how state rules, NAIC Model Acts, and administrative codes shape your everyday decisions on property, auto, liability, and workers’ compensation files.

We share the seven claims handling standards that keep you on track: prompt preliminary handling, documented procedures and training, tailored investigations, plain-English commun...


Episode #84: Holiday Claims Without The Headaches
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12/18/2025

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Holiday cheer meets claim chaos, and we’re here to make sense of it. From overloaded outlets and dry Christmas trees to frozen pipes and black ice, we walk through the winter risks that drive property, auto, and liability claims—and how smart adjusting turns messy losses into clean resolutions. We share practical tools adjusters can use right now: when to call a cause-and-origin expert, how to preserve cords, sockets, and devices for subrogation, and what chain-of-custody documentation should look like to avoid spoliation fights.

The conversation digs into policy nuance arou...


Episode #83 - Rules Of The Road For Adjusters: Fault, Foreseeability, And Last Clear Chance
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12/04/2025

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We rethink “rules of the road” from an adjuster’s view, showing why left-hand turns aren’t always at fault, how point of impact changes everything, and when last clear chance controls the outcome. Practical field tips help you collect better evidence, weigh foreseeability, and assign fair liability.

• left-hand turns, control of the intersection, point of impact
• duty to yield, duty of reasonable care, last clear chance
• comparative negligence across merges, passes, and hills
• weather and visibility shaping foreseeability and speed choice
• truck wide-right turns and squeeze hazards
• evid...


Episode #82 - Giving Thanks (and Adjusting Attitudes)
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11/20/2025

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🎧 Spotify Episode Description 

Episode 82: Giving Thanks — Bill’s Back!

This Thanksgiving episode is all about gratitude. Bill returns to the podcast, and we share what we’re thankful for — from the people who make our work meaningful to the everyday wins that keep us going in the P&C claims world.

Whether you're driving to a loss site, reviewing files, or heading home for the holiday, take a moment with us to reflect on the good stuff.

💛 What are you grateful for th...


Episode #81 - Category Five Conflicts
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11/06/2025

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When the wind picks up, claims become a pressure cooker. 🌪️

In this episode, Chantal and Heather tackle five real-world conflicts adjusters face during catastrophes — from underinsurance and staffing shortages to pressure, compassion fatigue, and post-storm chaos. They unpack what happens when good intentions collide with policy language, time limits, and too many claims on the desk.

💬 You’ll hear stories from the field, insider strategies for ethical decision-making under pressure, and a few laughs (because sometimes that’s all you can do during CAT season).

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Episode #80 - Knowledge is Power
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10/23/2025

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This one’s for the adjusters who keep learning even when nobody’s paying for training anymore.

Heather and Chantal talk about what real professional development looks like today — from learning policy language on your own to staying sharp as tech, AI, and consumer expectations change faster than your claim count. They dig into why mold and low-impact claims are making a comeback, how leadership can actually support adjusters, and why communication skills matter just as much as technical ones.

It’s a fun, honest conversation about taking ownership of your...


Episode #79 - Experts in Claims — When & Why to Call Them
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10/09/2025

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🏈 Adjusters can’t do it all — sometimes you need to call in the experts.


Heather and Chantal dig into the world of experts in claims. From engineers and origin-and-cause investigators to claims handling experts, we explore:

When adjusters should bring in specialized help (and when not to).Why “being an expert” takes more than Google or self-proclamation.How early expert involvement can save costs, reduce disputes, and even prevent bad faith.The challenges (and humor) of expert testimony in court.

Think of it like football: adjusters may be the...


Episode #78 - The IA Glow Up & Grow Up- With 3 C’s and an H
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09/25/2025

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Independent adjusting—explained by the people shaping it. Chantal and co-host Heather sit down with Chris Stanley (IA Path) and Calvin Newman (MOCAT) to discuss the realities of an IA career: the challenges, opportunities, and how to thrive long-term.

💡 Topics covered:

Independent adjusters as entrepreneursThe gap in training and follow-up support for new adjustersTech + AI: speeding work, not replacing empathyMaking claims attractive to Gen Z talentReframing claims as the heart of insuranceQuick hits: a wild inspection story + Chris’s “four life currencies”

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Episode #77 - The Myth of the Bad Faith Boogeyman
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09/11/2025

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Not every denied claim is bad faith. Not every mistake is a lawsuit waiting to happen. So why does it sometimes feel like “bad faith” is lurking around every corner?

In this episode, Chantal and Heather Blevins (The Insurance Rebel) tackle the myths and realities of bad faith in insurance claims. They break down what bad faith really means, why the definition changes depending on the state, and how adjusters can protect themselves with strong documentation, timely communication, and clear reasoning.

You’ll hear stories from the field, the danger...


Episode #76 - Back to School with the Unfair Claims Practices Act
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08/28/2025

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✏️ School’s back in session—and so is claims compliance. In this episode, Chantal and Heather Blevins break down the Unfair Claims Settlement Practices Act and what it really means for adjusters in today’s high-pressure environment. From documentation do’s and don’ts to why clear, proactive communication can keep you out of hot water, this conversation is all about building good faith habits.

🎧 Tune in to hear practical strategies for avoiding costly mistakes, improving policyholder interactions, and handling claims with litigation in mind. Whether you’re a seasoned adjuster or new to the field...


Episode #75 - Certificates of Insurance: The Most Misunderstood Document in Insurance
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08/14/2025

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Certificates of Insurance (COIs) look simple—but behind that one page is a world of fine print, pitfalls, and potential fraud.

In this episode, Chantal and Sandy talk with Scott Margraves, a 33-year insurance veteran and founder of COI’s R Us, about what COIs actually do (and don’t) prove. You’ll hear:

Why 9 out of 10 COIs are issued incorrectlyHow small clerical errors can lead to big problemsThe difference between a document that verifies coverage and an actual contractReal-world examples of COI confusion, misrepresentation, and fraud

We also say good...


Episode #74 - Adjusters, Reserves, and the Fine Line Between Insolvency and Bankruptcy
07/31/2025

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In this episode of The Art of Adjusting® Podcast, Chantal and Sandy break down the often-confused differences between bankruptcy, insolvency, and reserves—and why every adjuster should understand how their decisions impact a carrier’s financial stability.

From SpongeBob memes to real-life cautionary tales, they show how financial instability can start with a single misstep in reserve-setting.

Sandy explains why AI can’t replace the artistry of reserves, while Chantal explains how carrier solvency, rate approvals, and even state-specific nightmares (we're looking at you, Florida) all con...


Episode #73 - When Claims Get Ugly: Mastering the Tough Conversations
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07/17/2025

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Ever had to break bad news to a policyholder already on the verge of tears—or threats? In this episode, Chantal and Sandy share real-world strategies adjusters actually need (no vanilla “just be empathetic!” advice here).

🎙️ You’ll learn:
✅ What to do when a claimant starts crying—or yelling
✅ How to set expectations without sounding cold
✅ Tips for staying calm, professional, and in control
✅ Why role-playing and preparation are your secret weapons

Whether you’re a seasoned adjuster or just starting out, this episode will help you handle high-stak...


Episode #72 - Let Freedom Ring Adjuster Superpowers
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07/03/2025

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In this episode of The Art of Adjusting® Podcast, Chantal and Sandy explore the superpowers that adjusters need to thrive in one of the most demanding and misunderstood professions. From clear communication and empathy to pattern recognition and relentless follow-through, adjusters wear many capes—whether they realize it or not.

You’ll hear stories about the challenges of career mobility in insurance, why initial conversations with policyholders can make or break a claim, and how to set expectations without overpromising. We also bust common myths about adjuster compensation and dig into why t...


Episode #71 When the Damage Is Repaired But the Stigma Remains
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06/19/2025

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What happens when a rental property is fully repaired after a tragic event… but no one wants to live there? In this episode, Chantal and Sandy tackle a tough listener question from Dave Iadanza about insurance coverage, loss of rent, and reputational harm after a violent crime.

We walk through the real-life case of a triple homicide in New York, explore the limits of standard property policies, and share practical steps adjusters can take—like filing restitution letters and documenting coverage explanations. We also broa...


Episode #70 - How Agents, Risk Managers, and Adjusters Can Actually Get Along
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06/05/2025

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In this episode of The Art of Adjusting® Podcast, Chantal is joined by guest co-host Sandy Avina to unpack the messy—but fixable—world of insurance collaboration. What happens when adjusters, agents, and risk managers all think they’re steering the ship? Spoiler: chaos. But it doesn’t have to be that way.

We cover:
 ✔️ The surprising disconnect between “little R” risk managers and actual insurance strategy
 ✔️ Why agents often get trusted more than adjusters (even when adjusters know more)
 ✔️ Why that email chain isn’t helping—pick up the phone
 ✔️ How a recur...


Episode #69 - The Leadership Ladder: Amy Cooper Shares RISE's Vision for Insurance Professionals
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05/22/2025

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Ever wondered what it takes to transform an entire industry's culture? Amy Cooper, founder and CEO of RISE (Rising Insurance Star Executives), joins the Art of Adjusting podcast to reveal exactly how she's making it happen in the insurance world.

"I wanted this and it didn't exist for me, so I just said, ok, I'm going to build it," Amy explains, describing the origin of RISE. What began as a personal need has evolved into a comprehensive professional development ecosystem supporting insurance professionals at every career stage - from students entering...


Episode #68 - Understanding the Hard and Soft Insurance Market
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05/09/2025

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The hard and soft market cycle remains one of the insurance industry's most powerful yet least understood forces. In this eye-opening conversation with industry veteran Chris Burand, we peel back the curtain on what's really happening within carrier boardrooms during the current market hardening.

Most insurance professionals under 40 have never experienced a genuine hard market until now. With remarkable clarity, Burand explains how we're potentially facing "the hardest market since the mid-80s" despite carriers posting record profits last year. This seeming contradiction points to the fundamental truth that hard markets...