Avoiding Babylon

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Avoiding Babylon was started during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. During these difficult and dark days, when most of us were isolated from family, friends, our parishes, and even the Sacraments themselves, this channel was started as a statement of standing against the tyrannical mandates that many of us were living under. Since those early days, this channel has morphed into an amazing community of friends…no…more than friends…Christian brothers and sisters…who have grown in joy and charity. As we see it, our job here at Avoiding Babylon is to remind ourselves and those who enjoy the chann...

Pax Judaica: The Empire of Spectacle w/ Dr. Deep State
Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM

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Everything feels louder than it should, and somehow less real at the same time. That’s the tension we sit with as Dr. Haugen (Dr. Deep State) joins us to talk about spectacle, propaganda, and the slow spiritual cost of living inside an attention economy that never stops asking for your fear, your outrage, and your loyalty.

We dig into the core idea behind his ne...


Traditional Latin Mass Ban Is Ending? Leo & Parolin Drop Bombshells
Last Monday at 2:00 PM

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A single rumor from Rome can light the fuse again: is Pope Leo quietly trying to de-escalate the fight over the Traditional Latin Mass and stop turning Catholic liturgy into a battlefield? We start with the latest chatter around easing hostility toward TLM communities after Traditionis Custodes, then zoom out to the deeper question: what does fidelity look like when Church politics, social media, and constant scandals...


Good Friday Has Changed — Most Catholics Don't Know This (with Father Mawdsley)
Last Monday at 2:00 PM

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Holy Week hits different when you stop treating it like a reenactment and start treating it like formation. We sit down with Father Mawdsley to talk about the older Catholic instincts that the liturgy can rebuild: steady trust under pressure, clarity about what the Church is doing at the altar, and the quiet courage to refuse performative participation when something feels spiritually off.

We get...


Protestants Team Up with Kosher Catholics to Attack Scott Hahn
03/25/2026

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A husband posts that his wife “was formerly promiscuous” and he “was a virgin,” and somehow we’re all expected to nod along like it’s spiritual content. That moment opens a bigger problem we can’t ignore: testimony culture is starting to look like confession-as-branding, where past sin becomes a credential and conversion becomes a content strategy.

We dig into what this does to the moral imag...


The State of Tradistan w/ Catholic Esquire
03/20/2026

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One bad Mass can haunt you for years. So can one truly reverent one that finally makes the Catholic faith click.

We sit down with Catholic Esquire to trace the path a lot of serious Catholics have quietly taken: from lukewarm Novus Ordo parish life, to apologetics and “doing all the programs,” to the shock of realizing how much the liturgy forms what we believe abou...


Christians at War Over Israel | Full Discussion with Sam Shamoun
03/18/2026

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Christian Zionism sounds “Bible based” until you actually follow the Bible’s own rules for reading the Bible. We start with the claim that many Christians were taught: God still has a separate covenant with Israel, modern return to the land fulfills prophecy, and end times can’t happen without it. Then we put that claim under the light of the New Testament and the result is uncomfor...


Christians at War Over Israel | Full Discussion with Sam Shamoun (Full LOCALS Show)
03/18/2026

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The fastest way to get lost in Bible prophecy is to treat the Old Testament like it outranks the New Testament. We sit down for a blunt, text-driven walk through Christian Zionism, covenant theology, and Romans 9–11, asking a question that keeps dividing Christians: can you honestly claim God maintains a separate covenant with national Israel after the New Covenant of Jesus Christ?

We start with th...


The World Is Waking Up to Jesus — Here's Why
03/13/2026

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Something feels different lately, and we can’t be the only ones noticing it. When Joe Rogan starts talking about church, praising the teachings of Jesus, and asking out loud “who was Jesus Christ?”, that’s not just another trending clip. It’s a signal that the old certainty of the new atheist era is cracking, and millions of people are suddenly willing to take Christianity seriously again.


Has the Fourth Turning Arrived? AI, Collapse & What Comes Next
03/11/2026

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A strange AI intro sets the tone for a conversation about power, myth, and the cracks running through our civilization. We start with Tucker’s claim that some believers try to force God’s hand, and that secular boosters dream of a tech-ruled future. From there we pull the lens wider: the Bretton Woods order is threadbare, NATO expectations are stale, and a managerial class that once kept...


Mike Pantile Tells His Side of the Clash with Catholic Inc
03/09/2026

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Headlines, threats, and a thumbnail dust-up cracked open a bigger story: who decides what Catholics are allowed to hear? We walk through a sponsor-driven cancellation, the temptation to water down truth for access, and why the better answer is to build a new, open ecosystem where courage—not clout—sets the tone.

We get specific about the “woman question,” patriarchy, and the way language like “mutual sub...


LIVE: Joshua Charles & Anthony Take YOUR Toughest Questions
03/09/2026

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If you could summarize the end times in three words, here’s our pick: Restrain. Release. Return. We open Scripture with the Fathers and track Revelation 20 as a map of history—Satan bound so the nations can be evangelized, the saints reigning as the apostolic Church governs, and a brief release that surrounds the camp of the saints before the Lord returns. That lens turns the chaos of o...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 16
03/05/2026

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What if the greatest danger to your soul isn’t failure but the pride that follows success? We open Jeremiah 17 and the parable of the rich man and Lazarus to trace a stark contrast: dryness for those who trust in themselves and living water for those who root their hope in God. From there, we step into a Carmelite meditation on humility that reframes discouragement, showing how se...


This Theology Full of Messianic Fervor Wants War in Iran
03/04/2026

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We discuss the new war in Iran, specifically how Evangelical Dispensationalist theology seems to be purposefully driving us deeper into war.

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Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 15
03/04/2026

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When the urge to fix everything by ourselves runs hot, the Scriptures offer a better way. We open with Esther’s desperate prayer, where trust replaces leverage, and follow Jesus on the road to Jerusalem as he overturns our ideas of power: greatness is service, honor is sacrifice, and confidence is born from dependence on the Father.

We bring those threads into real life with a...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 14
03/03/2026

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What if your spiritual life looks busy on the outside but runs on empty within? Today we walk through Elijah and the widow, where a last handful of meal turns into daily bread, and we sit with Jesus’ words in Matthew 23 that challenge our craving for status, titles, and the appearance of holiness. The throughline is humility: the quiet reordering that places God first, neighbors next, and ou...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 13
03/02/2026

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We read Daniel 9 and John 8, then sit with a demanding truth from Divine Intimacy: humility is not a mood or a vibe; it’s the foundation that lets charity stand. If love is the house, humility is the bedrock—and without it, even our best intentions warp into self-reliance.

We talk honestly about what that looks like in modern life. Creating content that serves people can...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 12
03/01/2026

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A bright cloud, a trembling heart, and a voice that still calls us by name: the Second Sunday of Lent leads us up Tabor to glimpse what grace intends to complete. We read the traditional Mass texts and sit with the Transfiguration, then follow the thread back into ordinary life where sanctification looks like chastity, fairness, and fidelity when no one applauds. The light isn’t a de...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 11
02/28/2026

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A hard headline at dawn and a holy invitation at hand: we step into Ember Saturday with fasting, prayer, and a clear-eyed look at how grace meets a restless world. We keep the focus tight—covenant fidelity in Deuteronomy, the lived texture of Christian charity in First Thessalonians, and the mountain light of Matthew’s Transfiguration—then move into a grounded guide on confession that trades clichés for c...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 10
02/27/2026

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Ready for a reset that goes deeper than giving up dessert? We take Ember Friday as a clarifying lens on Lent: why the season spans 46 calendar days, how abstinence and fasting work today, and why these practices still matter for real conversion. Then we open Ezekiel 18 and John 5 to trace a through line from personal responsibility to healing grace, where God’s mercy moves first and then as...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 9
02/26/2026

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What if the one obstacle to holiness isn’t scandalous sin but quiet hesitation—the elegant excuses that slip between intention and action? We open Scripture with Ezekiel’s hard clarity on personal responsibility and the Gospel scene where a marginalized mother refuses to let go until mercy answers. Those readings set a challenge: justice must be lived, and faith must persist, even when it’s uncomfortable.


Reacting to Reactions on Our Own Video: A Lesson in Pointless Endeavors
02/25/2026

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Ant and Rob react to your reactions from the last video. Is this pointless? Probably. Will it still be peak content? Absolutely.

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Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 8
02/25/2026

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A cloud on Sinai, bread in the desert, and three days in the heart of the earth: today’s journey moves from spectacle to substance, asking what truly builds a life aflame with God. We read Exodus as Moses steps into the cloud for forty days, follow Elijah from exhaustion to angelic strength on the road to Horeb, and listen to Jesus refuse showy signs while pointing to...


Voices Across A Century: A Memorial to My Grandparents
02/24/2026

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A century speaks when you can hear it. Rob opens his family archive to share a carefully restored 2002 interview with his grandparents—two voices that carry Minnesota farm grit, German cadence, and the quiet strength of a marriage begun at sixteen. What starts as a personal memorial becomes a living piece of oral history: Depression-era setbacks, threshing crews and one-room schoolhouses, a boy who learned English after fi...


Voices Across A Century: A Memorial to My Grandparents
02/24/2026

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A century speaks when you can hear it. Rob opens his family archive to share a carefully restored 2002 interview with his grandparents—two voices that carry Minnesota farm grit, German cadence, and the quiet strength of a marriage begun at sixteen. What starts as a personal memorial becomes a living piece of oral history: Depression-era setbacks, threshing crews and one-room schoolhouses, a boy who learned English after fi...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 7
02/24/2026

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A city trembles at Jesus entering Jerusalem, money changers scatter, and prayer reclaims the Temple—then Isaiah reminds us that God’s word never returns empty. That collision of images frames a hard truth we often dodge: we grieve material losses faster than we grieve the loss of grace. We walk through Isaiah 55 and Matthew 21 before opening Divine Intimacy to explore how charity unites us to God whil...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 6
02/23/2026

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Judgment that looks like mercy, a Shepherd who refuses to lose a single sheep, and the honest truth about what happens to our good habits after Easter—this conversation brings Scripture and daily life into the same room. We open with Ezekiel 34’s promise that God Himself will seek, gather, and feed His people, then let Matthew 25 confront us with a standard that is both simple and sear...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 5
02/22/2026

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The desert exposes what we truly love. We open Lent’s first Sunday by sitting with Saint Paul’s urgency—now is the day of salvation—and then step beside Jesus as he refuses the devil’s plausible shortcuts: bread without trust, spectacle without obedience, power without worship. Each scene becomes a mirror for our lives, where comfort, image, and control tug at the heart. Instead of rules alon...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 4
02/21/2026

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Want a Lent that actually changes you? We walk through Isaiah’s fierce call to mercy and the Gospel scene of Jesus striding over the waves, then pivot to the quiet battlefield where most of us either grow or stall: the daily opportunities for mortification we didn’t plan. Instead of chasing dramatic sacrifices, we look at the humbler path of accepting illness, fatigue, awkward conversations, and inco...


Staying Faithful Under a Faithless Hierarchy w/ Nick Cavazos
02/20/2026

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The Three Amigos reunite tonight as Nick Cavazos joins us as we all discuss our own struggles staying faithful Catholics during this crisis in the Church.

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Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 3
02/20/2026

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Struggling with what fasting is really for? We open Isaiah 58 and Matthew 5–6 and discover a sharper vision: fasting that loosens chains, almsgiving that hides from applause, and love that dares to bless enemies. It’s not about spiritual theatrics; it’s about training the heart to choose God over self—and letting that choice spill into justice for our neighbors.

We walk through the day’s readings...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 2
02/19/2026

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Start with a simple truth: remembering death can make your life burn brighter. We open Day Two of Lent by reading the daily Mass texts—Hezekiah’s plea in Isaiah 38 and the Centurion’s daring humility in Matthew 8—and let their honesty shape how we face fear, illness, and the limits we’d rather ignore. Those passages become the doorway into Divine Intimacy’s memento mori: not a fixation o...


From Parish Juggling To Spiritual Fatherhood: A Candid Conversation With Fr. Amato
02/18/2026

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Looking for a Lent that actually forms you, not just a box to check? We sit down with Fr. Amato—pastor of a single parish spread across three churches—for a frank, hopeful look at priestly life, spiritual fatherhood, and the kind of habits that turn belief into muscle. He doesn’t sell shortcuts. He shares the daily grind: preaching every Mass like it’s the first, earning...


Divine Intimacy - Lenten Meditations for 2026 - Day 1 Ash Wednesday
02/18/2026

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Ashes signal a beginning, not an ending. We open Lent by choosing a clear path: daily readings from Divine Intimacy and a simple, sturdy way to pray that draws us into God’s love without performance. The Teresian method becomes our map—presence, reading, meditation, colloquy—so prayer shifts from theory to encounter. Instead of grand gestures, we aim for honest conversation with the One who already loves...


Carrie Prejean Boller asks, "Is Anti-Zionism Antisemitism?"
02/11/2026

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Rob and Ant watch and discuss the controversial clips of Carrie Prejean Boller coming out of the Religious Liberty Commission regarding Zionism and antisemitism. 

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Social Media Is Destroying Your Marriage And You Don't Even Know It
02/09/2026

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Ant and Rob discuss the effects that social media, in general, and podcasts, in particular, have had on marriages and families. We further discuss the Elijah Schaffer & Sarah Stock fallout as well as take a critical look at the marriage advice from John Delony.

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Vatican Named in Epstein Files? + New SSPX Bishops
02/04/2026

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Michael Hichborn joins us to discuss recent big news stories such as the Epstein files and announcement of upcoming SSPX consecrations.

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Joel Webbon on Feminism, Race, and Christendom
01/27/2026

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Anthony Abbate and Joel Webbon discuss contentious issues in our day, focusing on how Christianity and Catholicism intersect with modern challenges. They explore these topics through the lens of religion, debating various viewpoints. The discussion also touches upon biblical interpretations relevant to contemporary society.

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Stay and Save Your Parish or Cut Your Losses?
01/23/2026

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We discuss two recent articles: one arguing that you should stay at a bad Catholic parish and fight for it, and the other arguing against that.  What will Anthony and Rob decide? Will they agree? Or not?

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Daniel O'Connor Exposes the AI & UFO Alien Deception
01/21/2026

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Daniel O'Connor joins us to discuss the deception around aliens, UFO & UAP phenomena, AI, the day of disclosure, and how Catholics should discern the "signs and wonders" of our time within their faith. This conversation emphasizes the importance of a fervent approach to Christianity, highlighting why lukewarm Catholicism is no longer an option for the church. We explore these topics through a spiritual and theological lens, offering...


Is America Reaching a Breaking Point Over ICE?
01/16/2026

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Why are U.S. cities erupting after recent ICE enforcement actions? We unpack the timeline, the claims, and what a Catholic view of order and justice requires.

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