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Ep. 70: 线索c：“不要迷信医学书上说的1%概率，放在个体上就是100%”

#71

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本期要点

00:00 币安创作者奖：获得长视频类目第五名
04:04 第一条爆款视频，以及走上交易之路的契机
08:05 为什么稳定的牙医工作，始终是做交易的底气
09:56 从接诊患者到面对市场波动，如何保持情绪稳定
11:58 赚到一百万元后，什么变了，什么没变
13:55 尝试多种交易体系后，为什么最终选择价格行为
15:45 用大白话解释价格行为：读懂 K 线传递的信息
18:06 市场背景、交易方向、入场点与止损位
20:01 逐根 K 线分析，以及 Al Brooks 交易方法的由来
22:01 不同交易系统有哪些共通之处，从不断叠加复杂度，到给交易系统做减法
24:12 读懂市场背景，而非预测下一步走势
26:06 为什么对线索c 来说，价格行为比市场叙事更重要
29:12 比特币现货、小仓位合约，以及一次难忘的 ETH 离场
32:30 为什么每笔交易都必须设置止损
36:14 精选交易机会、分享图表，以及坚持不带单
39:17 教新手做交易，带来了哪些意外收获
44:27 为什么价格行为在流动性差、容易被操纵的市场中难以奏效
46:23 机构算法如何留下可识别的交易形态
50:34 机构的目标价只是估算，并非定数
55:23 错过交易就像错过一段感情：放下就好
57:20 专注于自己认知范围内的交易
01:01:09 为什么不建议全职交易
01:04:01 为什么新手不该羡慕重仓豪赌

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Ep. 69: Ogle: Most of the time you're trading against yourself

#70

10/03/2026

I restarted HODLong as a traders' talk and hosted Ogle as the first guest on the show.

Show Notes

00:00 How Ogle first got into trading as a kid

05:17 Growing up poor and developing a complicated relationship with money

10:52 Stepping back from public life, building companies, and returning to trading

14:09 Why deep research comes before making meaningful investments

18:23 The core thesis: revenue, real users, and value flowing back to token holders

24:53 How to research founders, incentives, and whether a business can sustain its model

27:00 E...

Ep. 68 [EN]: AG: Stay Standing and Build Long Term with StandX

#69

12/25/2025

Show Notes:

00:00 Introduction and Background about StandX and DUSD (why build together?)
02:15 Evolution and Challenges of on-chain DEXs
08:15 User Needs under Current Market Dynamics
12:32 Product Design and User Experience
16:41 Other Perp DEXs
21:15 Risk Management and Regulatory Environment for Perp DEXs
24:58 Market Competition and Strategic Positioning
30:08 User Feedback and Product Iteration
34:18 Summary and Outlook

X: @StandX_AG / @StandX_Official
Website: https://standx.com/

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Ep. 67 [EN]: Meow: the New Chapter of Jupiverse

#68

12/23/2025

Show Notes:

00:00 The Journey of Self-Reflection

02:41 Understanding Failure and Fear

05:25 Defining Success and Failure

07:56 The Role of Trust in the Industry

10:13 Navigating the Crypto Landscape

13:03 The Evolution of Crypto Ventures

15:33 Lessons from Early Experiences

17:55 The Importance of User Value

20:44 The Impact of Market Dynamics

23:14 Reflections on Airdrops and User Engagement

26:01 Navigating Challenges in the Crypto Space

29:09 The Future of Crypto and Personal Growth

38:34 The Call for Decentralization

41:18 Building Jupnet: A New E...

Ep. 66 [EN]: Bryan: Stargate widens by joining the force of LayerZero

#67

12/23/2025

Show Notes:

00:00 Opening and self-introduction
01:23 The development history of Layer 0
04:37 Market competition and partners
06:47 Investment and market dynamics
09:26 Future outlook and strategic direction
16:33 The relationship between capital and the “interstellar arena”
19:10 Challenges of consolidation and the management environment
21:22 The impact of STG and market changes
24:05 Voting mechanisms and team participation
26:57 Buyback plans and use of funds
29:36 The development and future outlook of Layer 0
32:37 Comparison the experience working with PayPal and Plasma
35:45 Future challenges and opportunities

X: @PrimordialAA / @LayerZero_Core

Website: https://layer...

Ep.65 [EN]: Zen & Soju: Meteora finding its alignment through product innovation and user monetization

#66

10/21/2025

02:04 Crypto Journeys: Soju and Zhen's Backgrounds

04:27 Understanding Meteora: Current State and Future Vision

06:49 Lessons from Mercurial: Token Migration and Community Support

09:30 The Trump Token Launch: Behind the Scenes

12:23 Positioning for Future Celebrity Launches

14:59 Governance and Vetting Processes in Token Launches

17:46 Dynamic Bonding Curve: Innovations and User Experience

20:39 Dynamic Liquidity Market Maker: Features and Advantages

23:24 Challenges and Future Developments in DLMM

26:02 The Role of MET Token and Community Alignment

28:32 Revenue Utilization and Buyback Philosophy

31:10 Metrics for Success: Focusing...

Ep.64 [EN]: Vlad: Building a secure & low latency / cost trading venue Lighter on world's largest public blockchain

#65

10/13/2025

Show Notes:

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background of Lighter

02:26 The Launch of Lighter and Its Features

05:25 Transition from Private to Public Beta

07:56 Trading Volume and Metrics

10:37 Open Interest and Volume Dynamics

13:31 Incentive Programs and User Engagement

15:56 Points System and User Behavior

18:42 Future Developments and Season Two

21:27 Verifiable Matching and Liquidations

24:09 Fee Structure and Token Philosophy

24:45 Retail vs. Professional Trading

27:12 Fee Structures and Trading Tiers

29:00 Latency and Advantages for Premium Accounts

Ep.63 [EN]: Sehaj: Make Avantis a composable trading venue of assets worldwide

#64

10/08/2025

Show Notes:

00:00 Sahej's Journey into Crypto and DeFi

01:41 Building Avantis: Vision and Strategy

04:40 Choosing Base: Strategic Decisions

07:12 Market Dynamics and User Engagement

09:48 Innovative Trading Models at Avantis

12:30 Liquidity Provider Innovations

15:29 Tokenomics and Community Engagement

23:42 Strategic Buybacks and Growth Focus

26:22 Balancing Token Holder Incentives and Team Sustainability

29:00 Innovative Staking Mechanisms and Risk Management

31:12 Leveraging AMMs for Unique Trading Features

34:12 Scaling Open Interest and Market Maker Incentives

37:10 Governance Dynamics and Community Engagement

38:46 Navigating...

Ep.62 [EN]: Leonard: Make Aster a multi-chain DEX that competes with CEX

#63

10/07/2025

In light of the kick-off of Points Program Stage 3 of Aster I'm publishing this episode recorded on September 29, 2025 with Leonard, CEO of Aster, on Aster's value proposition, all things related to the token transparency, Aster Chain, and future plans

00:27 Leonard's Journey into Crypto

03:56 Defining Aster's Current and Future Vision

07:21 Aster's Unique Value Proposition

09:57 Governance and Decentralization in Aster

11:39 Leonard's Preference on Other DEX Products

13:39 The Dark Pool Design Explained

18:36 Tokenomics and Supply Dynamics

23:57 Genesis Stage 2 / 3 Points Program

28:16 Spot Trading and Liquidity...

Ep.61 [EN]: Ogle: Navigating crypto mass adoption via the lens of America.fun & Glue Blockchain

#62

10/06/2025

In this hyper-casual episode (probably one of the most casual episodes I've ever had 😂) I invited Ogle to talk about all things Glue and America.fun

00:00 Introduction and Ogle's Introduction

03:58 Exposing Industry Crimes

06:57 The Vision Behind Glue

09:15 User Acquisition

11:41 Bring Older Generations into Crypto

14:44 Glue's Onboarding Experience

17:13 Technical Architecture and the Use of Substrate

22:44 Future Plans for Glue and America.Fun

33:47 The Unique Features of America.Fun

36:42 Relationships in the Crypto Space

39:39 The American Ethos and Its Impac...

Ep.60 [EN]: Yoaquim: Flywheel Quanto.trade with cross-margining and multitude of assets

#61

09/27/2025

Note: there was a small piece (about 5 mins) missing from the recording (yes, sorry, Yoaquim rugged - he didn't finish uploading xd). If you want to see the full livestream, please go to: https://x.com/Mable_Jiang/status/1971575903491940630

01:34 Transition from VC to Building

04:22 Discussion on Quanto and Migration from OX

07:13 User Experience and Team

09:35 Handling User Funds

10:17 Choosing Solana as the Main Venue

12:28 Recent Market Events and Community Response

15:23 Design and Functionality of Quanto

18:05 Proof of Reserves and User Verification

20:35 Wi...

Ep.59 [EN]: Santiago R Santos: Creating a perpetual business to bring more people on chain with Inversion

#60

09/16/2025

I haven't caught up with Santi for a while. In light of his recent raise I invited him for the first time to HODLong. In this conversation he shared a lot of his thinking about why he hop on to the founder seat and built Inversion. Full of genuine takes and insights - a highly recommended episode.

Inversion is hiring!

00:44 Santiago's Early Interest in Crypto

05:07 The Challenges of Startups in Crypto

07:54 Inversion: A New Approach to Business Efficiency

11:14 Defining Inversion for Non-Crypto Users

15:19 Targeting Telecom a...

Ep.58 [EN]: Kyle Samani: Forward and onwards - the job is not done with Solana

#59

09/15/2025

00:00 Introduction - Kyle & Forward Industries

05:13 Investment strategies & Why Kyle believes that the convertible and perpetual preferred structure works far better for a SOL DAT

07:54 SOL acquisition opportunities (from whom the SOL are from?)

10:22 Governance role and management team building

15:46 On chain yield strategies

18:27 Latest Take on SIMD-228 - an updated view on Solana native yields

24:12 Evolving perspectives on DATs and understanding the SEC Vision

25:22 Solana's infrastructure for global securities trading

27:50 Internet Capital Markets

28:54 Entertainment Finance: The next frontier; Pump & Kalshi

...

Ep.57 [EN]: Serpin Taxt: Ethos building the next gen on-chain credential Layer

#58

06/29/2025

I really enjoyed this conversation with Serpin Taxt, the cofounder of Ethos Network. Please note that this episode is recorded a month ago, so the information may be a bit delayed (sorry I was busy this month).

Show Notes:

Early background and how Ethos got startedReview and discussions around Friend.techAbout negative review and slashes’ long term impactThe product overviewScoring algorithm and its opennessEthos’s incentive alignment designViews on multi-chainThe potential demand of cheaper blockchain costs and the problem’s outlookPotential DeFi integration in the prospectThe discussions about newly proposed rulesCold start and high quality user acquisi...

Ep.56 [CN]: Jonny: Sidekick 引领 Web3 直播不走寻常路

#57

05/16/2025

这期里面Sidekick 联合创始人 Jonny 展现了自己非常真实的一面，听了之后你就会理解这个团队的一些过人之处～

本期概要：

团队背景最开始进入直播行业的历程：从网鱼到比心创业路上一次又一次的挫折：疫情、俄乌战争目前在sidekick上的直播流程和体验在推特上或者做私域社区很优秀的KOL，未必是好的主播。好的主播需要什么特质？目前势头在往上走，做对了什么流量和买盘是一个东西吗长期Sidekick的愿景？Sidekick 是怎么考虑自己做交易的

X: @HeyfishYC / @Sidekick_Labs

网址：https://sidekick.fans/

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Ep.55 [CN]: Richard: Huma Finance 提升跨境金融效率探索低风险RWA

#56

04/13/2025

本期概要：

Huma 是什么，它的商业模式？“PayFi”的理念是什么传统 DeFi 借贷多以超额抵押加密资产为主，而 Huma 提供基于未来收入或应收账款的融资。你们的核心借贷机制是如何实现的？与传统借贷协议相比有哪些创新之处？Huma 此前与跨境支付服务商 Arf 完成了合并，获得了更强的合规资质和全球支付网络能力。这项战略举措对你们服务现实金融场景起到了怎样的作用？Huma 如何将 Arf 的优势融入自身平台？在风控和清算机制上，Huma 如何保障借贷的安全性？能否介绍一下你们的风险管理模型以及发生违约时的清算流程？你们近期推出了 Huma 2.0，请问能讲讲这个升级主要包括哪些方面吗？你怎么看Defi 协议大家很在意的TVL？你认为用 TVL 来作为参数评估一个协议的优势和劣势在哪里？ Huma 协议设计了怎样的代币经济模型？HUMA 代币的主要功能定位是什么？在更多现实世界资产（RWA）与链上金融融合方面，Huma 有怎样的战略规划？未来在多链部署上有何规划？是否考虑扩展到更多公链？Huma 在创业的过程中，有没有什么一些应用场景是原来没想到，被用户需求激发的？在Web3 创业的一些心得和感受？Huma Finance未来会开放给更多的应用在上面建设吗？

X：@humafinance / @DrPayFi

网站：https://huma.finance/

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Ep.54 [EN]: Chaofan: Scaling Solana with Solayer's Infini SVM

#55

04/06/2025

In this episode I hosted Chaofan from Solayer - I learned something new about Solana validators in this episode! Dive in and learn about how Solayer scales, how it works on sandwiching, and how they view talents.

Show Notes:

Your background and journey to SolayerIs it possible to run the same thing on Ethereum with Solayer’s approach? Compare the technical approach of Eigenlayer with Solayer?In your 2025 roadmap, why did you decide to expand from a restaking protocol to a hardware accelerated SVM Chain? How does the end user experience look like? What other blockchains, from a...

Ep.53 [CN]: Sam Gao: ELIZA OS白皮书作者聊聊写作AI人物史与ELIZA v2

#54

03/28/2025

本期邀请到了ELIZA OS白皮书的联合作者Sam Gao给我们唠唠他写作关于 AI 人物史传记的心得（这期不是特别Web3），对于AI科技史上重要人物的故事有兴趣的朋友可以一听～

p.s. 这一期其实二月中旬就录制了，但是一直没来得及剪辑放出，致以歉意～

本期概要：

自我介绍给听众介绍一下之前写过的那本《青稞.人物志》AI 领域的大神里面成名之前的人生故事现在特别早期的一些尝试里面我们能看到AI 项目会利用Web3的激励网络来做人类资源的调度。你觉得 AI和web3的两条线会是一个怎样的发展趋势和线程？你怎么看Minimax的创始人闫俊杰说的“在现在这个阶段为了产品化对技术进步作出牺牲不可取“的这个观点？2025年很多人认为是 Agent 之年，甚至比如零一万物的创始人李开复会认为今年是AI商业化的关键一年。从你的角度，你怎么看Agent？如何看待Web3背景下AI Agent 25-26年的发展？你会想要投资怎样的创业者？很多开发者对于Eliza v2 的发布都比较关注。Eliza v1 的一些问题，和v2 作出的优化

Twitter（X）：@samuel_ys92

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Ep.52 [EN]: Armani Ferrante: Backpack and its multi-cycle ambition

#53

03/06/2025

In this episode I had the CEO of Backpack, Armani Ferrante on. It was a great conversation in their Tokyo office. Our conversion covered from his view on centralized exchanges to what he thinks of non-custodial wallets. We also discussed a lot beyond the business of Backpack. If you're interested, you should tune in yourself!

Show Notes:

The background of Armani, and the history of BackpackWhat does a FTX-shaped hole in the market look likeHow and why important centralized exchanges are to the industryCongratulations on your public beta that was announced 2 weeks ago. Since the launch, w...

Ep.51 [CN]: 汉洋 & 重轻： Funes想要建模全世界（真的不是元宇宙批评）

#52

02/27/2025

本期摘要：

你们说自己“在发明一种爱好，类似没有滑板的时候在发明滑板或者巴塔哥尼亚那个哥们在从头发明攀岩装备。”你们怎么告诉别人Funes是什么？复杂的爱好是一种商业模式，需要成立公司来运营和发展谁最需要你们？谁是你的长期社区成员？怎么找到这些最初的核心用户？从重轻的文字里读出来你并不喜欢元宇宙这个概念，是因为虚假和幻觉么？元宇宙批评之我真的没有故意把重轻放在火上烤：真实的世界是复杂的Funes的每个合伙人写了一篇关于Funes的文章。可达那个让我印象很深刻，说的是关于他的教授言传身教让他们做考古研究观察这个世界时不要有预判和分别心。所以我很好奇，做3D模型以后有改变你们看这个世界的方式么。在美国锈带和土耳其的经历通过网上冲浪找到的废墟网站及通过这些冲浪拍到的莫名其妙的东西Funes是一个内容公司，再聊如何找到社区核心成员关于Funes潜在的激励网络（相信我这段对话一定不是你想的那样）

模型链接：
（苹果手机可以直接在网页中观看 AR 版，如遇卡顿可用电脑打开）

[路边杆子上的飞车 A Car on A Pole in Bethlehem Township](https://funes.world/models/#ACarOnAPoleInBethlehemTownship)

[高速旁的巨大鳄鱼 "Saint" Alligator Bonfire](https://funes.world/models/#SaintAlligatorBonfire)

[辽中京大名塔，Funes 一开始想扫描的类型：辽塔](https://funes.world/models/?q=dam#DamingPagoda)

这个汉洋不记得提到没有但是来都来了就放上去吧：[七台河的筒子楼](https://funes.world/models/?q=qita#KhrushchevkaInQitaihe)

Blog（发刊词）:

[丰泽：我为什么加入 Funes：为我们铁证如山的未来](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#why-i-joined-funes/zh)

[可达：细密的人间](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#cosmos-in-detail/zh)

[汉洋：张昭的题记](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#zhang-zhaos-story/zh)

[徐缓：从无数个念想开始](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#staring-from-a-thousand-of-wishes-by-huan/zh)

[轶轩：风铎的声音](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#the-sound-of-wind-chimes/zh)

[重轻：Funes 在筹集什么？](https://funes.world/blogs/index.html#what-are-funes-gathering/zh)

[可达、重轻和汉洋的播客《山有虎》，各大泛用型播客客户端都能搜到，他们接下来也会基于模型做节目] (https://shanyouhu.xyz/)

Twitter（X）：@HanyangWang / @Funes_World

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Ep.50 [CN]: Haze: 早安晚安都要优化产品体验的GMGN

#51

02/23/2025

这个节目的标题我没有想到一个特别出彩的但我很坦然，因为这一集也是一样：没有极其惊艳的大道理或者洞察，但是聊完之后你却更觉得Haze 和 GMGN 团队的优秀之处。他们在细节处见真章。在访谈的最后一个问题，你可能会期待他回答一些特别厉害的东西，但是他的回答仍然是那么朴素。这大概就是GNGM的成功的秘诀吧，坚持，用心。

这一周过去了我跟 Haze 感慨，所有人都吹捧你的感觉真是神奇，他淡淡地回答：风口上而已。没了风，就没有这些了。

Show Notes:

GMGN的前世今生：最开始这个想法是怎么孕育的，核心用户是从什么渠道积累的产品迭代经历了哪些阶段GMGN 做社区的特点是老板自己也下场吗你觉得你们做产品这么多年积累下来的哪些经验和基础设施的优势在迭代GMGN时对你们有所帮助？功能迭代的流程你们最近支持了BNB Chain，很多业内人士开玩笑说你们收到了BNB Chain最高规格的接待。有一个很资深的在 BNB Chain 上做开发的朋友的观点是你们最初支持BNB Chain时还没有针对BNB Chain做太多优化。所以从那时到现在的变化是什么？BNB Chain 或者其他一些EVM链，相比Solana，最大的区别是什么memecoin真的有多链同时交易、链抽象前端和产品体验的需求吗海外与国际化：假设你们觉得Solana 长期还是很值得深耕，是否考虑全球化Memecoin 交易的下半场，你觉得在白热化的竞争里面，持续保持优势甚至拉开别人一头差距的重点在哪

Website：

https://gmgn.ai/app

Twitter（X）：@haze0x / @gmgnai

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Ep.49 [EN]: Nico: Sailing with OX.FUN in the first meme bull market

#50

02/15/2025

Shownotes:

Self-introHow does it feel working on a project full time for an extended period of time?For those who don’t have any context Su Zhu had a “Supercycle” thesis for Ethereum in the previous bull run. So tell us under today’s context, what’s a Supercycle?!Why shifting from OPNX to OX.FUN?You guys are laser focused on Perps right now. I know you thought about doing a Launchpad but decided not to. What was the thought process?What kind of audience and market do you think you captured in the recent run-up? Who are your m...

Ep.48 [EN]: Joanna Zeng: Bringing the Best of SVM to scale Ethereum SOON

#49

02/01/2025

Show Notes:

What brought you into into cryptoIntroduction of SOONThere were so many scaling solutions available. What was the thinking behind launching soon at this time? What’s the mission and vision behind?The mindshare around SOON has been growing lately. What did you guys do? What was the focus? How do you think about differentiation of SOON other than the scalability issues?Why did you go for a decoupled SVM design versus a forked one? What’s the tradeoff?What was the tradeoffs in the Fraud-Proof Security?And you took a modular approach for the architecture?What have...

Ep.47 [EN]: Weekee Tiew: Virtuals is here for years, and let's first grow the agent performance

#48

01/19/2025

In this episode I interviewed Wee Kee, the co-founder of Virtuals. From here and there in the conversation you can tell that Virtuals team is a pragmatic and perseverant one. To build a successful product in this fast moving industry, there's no fast track but stay on the table and keep grinding.

Shownotes:

You guys have been dominating mindshare amongst all the crypto native folks lately. So first of all congratulations! But still would love to hear how you introduce yourself to our audience. There were quite many platforms that empower developers to launch agents. What ke...

Ep.46 [CN]: Yu Hu: “注意力是基本面，叙事是Multiples”——Kaito 用LLM重塑市场参与者工作流

#47

12/22/2024

是什么启发 Kaito 团队从最开始的面向机构和项目，开始逐渐转向面向普通用户的？“Kaito is an AI that revolutionizes your workflow, changes how you think about this market, and provides you with the tool you need to drastically improve your decision making.” Kaito：改变工作流的工具“心智”是 Kaito 很强调的一个指标，甚至认为是增长的KPI。它由什么一些要素构成？Kaito的团队背景：算法 vs 数据最近你的推特 feed 流有大量的内容是关于meme交易的流动性和心智的，在这个新的一轮里，流动性和心智是在资产类别间怎么移动的？传统估值模型 2.0：注意力是基本面，叙事是Multiples你们决定是否给平台加一个什么样的功能，决策流程是怎样的？你一直在追踪meme占推特心智的百分比，你觉得到百分之多少是一个比较难再增长的状态？好奇你为什么在有些人认为的高点买$GOAT？Kaito 目前的挑战是什么？

Website：

https://kaito.ai/

https://yaps.kaito.ai/onboarding/

Twitter（X）：@_kaitoai / @Punk9277

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Ep.45 [EN]: Will Robinson: Alliance DAO's mental framework and the growth flywheel

#46

12/14/2024

Shownotes:

Brief introduction and the initial involvement in Alliance DAOThe inception of Alliance DAO and its evolutionThe recruiting structure and the sorting processThe best performing deal and the buying power momentum over the yearsHow to help founders navigate through the market full of sentiments and emotionsYC analogy; allocation of investment and resourcesWe often see many investors whining that it’s tougher for them to participate in this cycle. Will's view on this point and where the opportunities areEthereum communities versus Solana communities; deep involvement into the Solana ecosystem during the bearThe areas we still lack developers or builders to...

Ep.44 [CN]: Xin Yan: Sign 赋能主权个体玩更多无限游戏

#45

11/23/2024

这期聊得很开心，对主权个人和数字游民话题感兴趣的听友，不妨一听～

本期概要：

Sign 是什么Sign 的发展历程Sign 的业务，为什么拓展那些模块Sign 如何帮助数字游民更方便地生活如果更多的人开始广泛的旅行，这个世界一定会变得更美好在Country-as-a-service的潜在可能性背景下，Sign 扮演的角色和一些小国家的合作缘起、过程弱主权国家需要的基础设施赛博朋克作品中描绘的未来与我们今日的现实生活

Website：

https://sign.global/

https://signpass.world/

https://www.tokentable.xyz/

Twitter（X）：@ethsign / @realyanxin / @sign

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Ep.43 [CN]: Dabing (Shuyao): MegaETH 单一定序器光荣重归以太坊的野望

#44

11/16/2024

这一期绝对不是关于MegaETH最技术导向的播客（对技术解决方案有兴趣的可以去找 Monad 和 MegaETH 联合创始人辩论的那一期），但有可能是最有温度也最真实的一期。我和Shuyao 聊了很多以太坊生态的过去和现在，以及MegaETH的未来。

本期概要：

Shuyao的背景。最初是怎么了解到以太坊的？在做 MegaETH 之前的有趣经历对以太坊和对 Solana 这两个社区的真实感受？Shuyao 趣谈以太坊的出路 👀如何把 Web2 的开发者带进来？MegaETH 联合创始人的学术和工作背景MegaETH 是在大家基本上接受了以太坊二层的定序器（sequencer）可以是中心化的这一背景下出现的，你能给大家简单讲讲megaeth的设计思路取舍吗MegaETH 架构里一个很重要的设计是把节点性能分成四种、把节点工作的要求解耦的设计今时今日如此多的L2，能跑出来的出路是什么：关于精挑细选的孵化器MegaMafia希望什么样的项目在MegaETH上长出来什么是MegaETH 能帮到 MegaMafia 的项目做的，什么是帮不上的？主网的上线预期？关于发币怎么想的？

Website：https://megaeth.systems/

Twitter（X）：@megaeth_labs

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Ep.42 [CN]: Ran: Orderly 贯穿链上流动性层的愿景

#43

08/17/2024

本期概要：

Ran的背景。做传统金融的那些年都有什么比较有意思的经历？后来是哪一年决定开始进入这个行业？契机是什么现在Kronos的发展情况、团队规模。后来为什么做了Woo Trade，然后到现在的Orderly？Kronos自己作为流动性参与方，觉得在2020-2022年这个周期阻碍更机构化的大钱进入defi最大的瓶颈是什么？这个周期有好转吗？ Orderly 的入口和流量；Orderly上面接的L1 和 L2 的交易量格局变化会觉得跨链流动性是个阶段性命题么？从这个周期开始，大家开始有一个展望，觉得未来合规交易所 / 一些在野的交易所 / 链上订单簿交易所会三分天下。作为Orderly创始人，未来会展望什么样的格局变化？ Orderly 未来如何计划构建和完善其生态系统

Website：

https://link3.to/orderlynetwork_

Twitter (X): @OrderlyNetwork

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Ep.41 [CN]: Harry: Web3 数据凭证网络到链抽象 —— Galxe 到 Gravity 的大G之路

#42

05/29/2024

本期概要：

今天在奥斯汀的Consensus大会，你们发布了自己的品牌升级和新项目——一个叫Gravity的一层网络。之前你们也把通证从GAL改名为G。你们现在的品牌下产品的定位？什么契机让你们想要做链抽象；用人话解释一下什么是链抽象？为什么决定要做自己的一层网络？Gravity 对于初期增长是怎么考虑的？两年前，你们当时还不叫Galxe而是叫Project Galaxy，那个时候你们更多的是定位自己是一个数据凭证的协议。你们现在的app有哪些？关于类Galxe的数据服务，我一直有个感受是这类项目现在已经是非常大宗商品化或者同质化了。它本质上是一个心智游戏。当你没有成为品类第一占领用户绝对心智之前，你是没有什么护城河的。很多后起的竞品当时开始做和你们一样的事情但是服务的更好，你们已经起规模了因此不能再做以前那样精品服务的事情了。那么这一年多以来你是怎么样让Galxe 逐渐拉开差距，成为用户心智里的绝对第一的呢？有基金在早期评估的时候也会说觉得你们做的这个是个好生意，但不是可以规模化的，另一种声音是说觉得你们给各个项目方做交互活动的这个生意本身可能是昙花一现的、难以持续。这些评论你怎么看？你觉得当时21年创业的你，有想过会走到今天这样的规模么？是什么驱使着你不断进步和往上走？三年来你对这个行业有什么崭新的认知？任何你改变看法了的东西。

Website：

https://www.galxe.com/

https://gravity.xyz/

Twitter（X）：@Galxe /

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Ep.40 [EN]: Cindy & David: the Driftooors building the future of finance on Solana

#41

05/17/2024

Similar to how I feel about Magic Eden, it's very inspiring to see how well Drift Protocol is doing today after all the thick and thins. In light of the $DRIFT TGE, I did this podcast with Cindy and David.

Shownotes:

How was these 3 years of building? How does it feel having been through the whole bull and bear and bull again?What was the toughest time for you during these years? How did you power through it?How did that challenging experience impact and lead to the design of v2? How was v2 different from v...

Ep.39 [EN]: Zedd: Unpacking the long march of Magic Eden towards the market winner

#40

05/14/2024

I was friend with Zedd (who I know by Zhuoxun) for many years - we joined the space at the same time. I think we met the first week Zedd working at dydx. It's very encouraging to see how well Magic Eden is doing today, and impressed by all the efforts, regardless whether successful or unsuccessful they are, the team had made over the past 3 years, through the thick and thin.

Shownotes:

Magic Eden’s journey since the inception in 2021What made you want to explore ecosystems outside of Solana?What was the experience building in Pol...

Ep.38 [CN]: BMAN：创业 ABCDE 成为一个受人尊敬的、技术驱动的风险投资基金

#39

05/09/2024

节目概要：

BMAN的自我介绍ABCDE 建立时的初心，想要做一个怎样的基金？这一轮似乎很多基金能够接触到的项目还不如一些创始人和天使，在这样的一个市场环境下，你们是怎么定位自己的策略的，怎么打出你们的区分度？你们在这一年多品牌建设卓有成效，尤其是你们在开发者中的声望，在这块你们做了哪些工作？你们现在觉得自己比较有优势的赛道有哪些？这两年投出了什么经典案例？有什么方向是你们会避免、觉得自己不擅长的？基建可能是你比较擅长的领域，但是你也喜欢消费应用类的东西。很明显现在二级市场对应用类产品溢价并不多，你觉得这个会是一个长期现象么？这个周期，你会觉得出来的创新的东西不如18、19年那轮熊市多么？是行业发展到了这个阶段的必然瓶颈么？对于比较容易同质化 / 大宗商品化（commoditized）的项目，比如各种rollup和DA，你们的态度？怎么看各种模块化和全局区块链未来发展的趋势？这个市场里，二级市场的价格发现周期可以特别的长，二级市场也有很多机会。现在越来越多的基金会做混合策略，为什么主要做一级市场投资呢？香港 vs 新加坡，从开发者、生态圈、投资人的角度，说说你的感受？

Website：https://www.abcde.com/

Twitter（X）：@ABCDELabs

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Ep.37 [CN]: Justin：以 Solana 为执行层的 BTC 互操作协议 Zeus Network

#38

03/17/2024

节目概要：

Justin 的自我介绍Dappio是做什么的？是怎么决定开始做Zeus Network的？为什么Solana生态上应该有比特币跨链协议，需求在哪里？Zeus Network的跨链通讯是怎么工作的，和 Thorchain / LayerZero的区别关于安全：在 Zeus Network的设计里双层签名机制是如何运作的，什么时候会启用offchain的签名？如果极端情况下有人想做恶，那理论上他们可以通过自己成为节点的方式来批准本来是没有批准的交易的，这部分的作恶成本。是否会担心用经济假设来保证机制的运转会有一定的风险（类似Op-rollup的同样问题）？在挑战期有节点指出问题，后续会怎么操作？如何考虑支持链的数量和安全性的平衡？从普通用户的角度，他们可以如何参与Zeus 协议、使用zBTC？近期的工作重点是什么，后续一些GTM的分享和计划你们公布了投资人名单，里面包括了Stack的创始人和Solana的创始人。投资人在未来发展扮演的角色？

Website：https://zeusnetwork.xyz/

Twitter（X）：@ZeusNetworkHQ / @dappiokeeper

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Ep.36 [CN]: Johnny：编织 Gas Hero 的英雄梦

#37

01/15/2024

这一期算是在很多人的催更下完成的，心情既忐忑又期待。这一期里，我和 Johnny 聊了聊关于 Gas Hero 的缘起、设计理念和用户体验。

节目概要：

自我介绍和 Johnny 心目中的Gas HeroGas Hero 这个游戏的缘起这个游戏的核心创意和让用户舒服的点Web3游戏的核心是什么？基于这个理解，制作游戏过程中做了哪些取舍？详谈每个部分设计的优先顺序制作和开发的过程中和传统游戏开发体验的不同市场、社区和宣传聊聊 STEPN 和 Gas Hero 的对比，经济的、乐趣层面的、用户层面的用户类型，大家都分别在享受什么样的乐趣做Gas Hero最大的成就感关于如何做好一个游戏制作人

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Ep.35 [CN]: Ben & Zoe：今夜无眠（Sleepless AI)，谈谈关于HIM & HER 的未来畅想

#36

01/07/2024

节目概要：

Sleepless 团队简介，项目缘起虚拟伴侣现阶段和陪玩这类应用提供的体验优势和劣势App名字叫HIM和HER的灵感来源目标用户的体验，借鉴过去做项目的经验用户在App内目前可以做的事情、未来可以做的事情大家在app内的交互用到的语言模型是？有针对应用场景做一些额外的训练吗？爱情这个主题是否单一、限制受众？很多新生代人它追求的陪伴，不是一般定义的“爱情”虚拟世界里找陪伴有可能不是现实世界中没有陪伴而是无法满足一些比较特别的需求，如何满足幻想？关于风控NFT 与通证经济用户的体验和消费和整个通证经济如何联动治理代币的应用场景用户之间的网络效应

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Ep.34 [CN]: Saku：Matr1x FIRE 探索未被定义的 Web3 娱乐产品

#35

09/17/2023

节目概要：

Saku 过去游戏和加密行业的主要经历作为一个游戏运营老手，如何让自己快速学习Web3其他的项目运营技巧你会怎么用一两句话介绍Matr1x给不认识你的投资人和社区用户？决定立项要做这个项目的时候，有哪些人是很关键的？“最开始的资产的时候一定要高举高打，热度要起来” Matr1x FIRE上个月完成了beta测试，测试各方面的结果和你总体的感受，一些没有预料到的事情和困难Matr1x FIRE的经济模型设计，比前人的设计有所提升的地方FIRE的释放，供需的动态平衡如何防止资产囤积，或者说出现资产乏力？未来怎么穿透海外市场

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Ep.33 [CN]: MasterPa 汉洋：唠唠《谁在制造币安？》背后的创作故事

#34

08/28/2023

节目概要：

汉洋的自我介绍请汉洋来聊这一期主要是因为他前几天写的那篇币安的文章《谁在制造币安？》。那个文章收到了各种各样的反响，包括CZ自己也转发并且邀请汉洋和他聊一聊。汉洋写它的初心是什么？汉洋在写作的过程中，有试图挖掘一些非公开的信源吗？在汉洋心目中这篇文章的受众和读者是谁？文章首发在晚点，晚点也是国内唯一有机会长篇幅采访过CZ的媒体，他们当时访谈的感受？亚洲创业者 vs 欧美创业者与媒体公关沟通的区别汉洋写作这篇文章过程中，有什么调研的结果是感觉出乎意料的？另一个点就是，这篇文章很多人的反馈都是意犹未尽，后面别的系列文章会写什么？如果各方面资金和资源都不用愁的情况下，可以为币安作传，汉洋会想挖掘和探讨的问题都有哪些？如果像Michael Lewis那样近距离地去作传，大概率接触到的都是正面的声音，写作会有偏颇吗？

一些重要链接 / Important Links：

晚点版《谁在制造币安：4000 份履历里的无国界公司》：https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qedPxj5O0rVkAchDrHU55A汉洋的推特线程：https://twitter.com/HanyangWang/status/1691802371972882614博客版（中文）《谁在制造币安：4000 份履历里的无国界公司》：https://crypto4.wtf/博客版（英文）《谁在制造币安：4000 份履历里的无国界公司》：https://picapica.wtf/AAANY 上关于文章的AMA：https://aaany.app/aaa/llky7i9na晚点聊《区块链里国家和种族的矛盾依然存在》：https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/63c48e99100157008c3de419

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Ep.32 [CN]: Brice：在 Mahjong Meta 中畅享 Web3 游戏策略与文化体验

#33

08/07/2023

首先恭喜Mahjong Meta 于 2023年8月7日正式上线！在上线之际，请来了创始人Brice和我们来唠唠嗑。Brice 对于“核心玩家在 Web3 游戏中追求什么体验” 这一问题的思考是我个人十分欣赏的，希望能跟更多的听众分享这一期～

节目概要：

项目和Brice的个人介绍之前不少人私下问我说，不就是一个麻将游戏吗融这么多钱是要干啥？为什么一开始决定做麻将游戏？对于世界上绝大多数用户它其实是陌生的，熟悉它的可能只有中日韩玩家。这个决策是怎么考虑的？对于麻将文化完全陌生的玩家，如果他们有兴趣参与，用什么方式降低门槛，加速上手？“活好不黏人”：如何基于Web3玩家的核心体验追求作出游戏性的创新Mahjong主题公园：Mahjong Meta 里面已有的游戏模式和对未来产品设计的展望mahjong Meta 内测期间的一些开心的发现和之前没有预想到的事儿麻将这款游戏文化属性很强，在游戏中有什么玩家社交、互动的元素？有考虑线下做对战和体验吗？做线下的意义？

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Ep.31 [CN]: Christine & Nomad：饭圈化的Azuki与处在十字路口的社区

#32

07/08/2023

写在前面：

这期播客可以想见会有一些争议，但正如我在播客中所说，只要是人就一定会有观点。但在适度表达观点之余，更多的是将一些发生的事实在谈话中展现出来。想要做这期播客，完全是因为看到了Nomad的长推文，抱着试试的心态联系了Christine 和 Nomad。聊完之后，我对于“为什么社区强”这一概念有了全新的认知，应该说是过去几年让我学到最多的播客之一。感谢收听～

节目概要：

Azuki OG Christine 和 Nomad各自的背景Day1 Azuki的社区和如何发现Azuki社区的地域和人种分布Azuki生态里的NFT从社区建成开始，团队主动做过的社区建设和IP合作之路为什么Azuki的社区认同感强Azuki社区的人员构成Azuki的饭圈文化猴子社区：多元化的用户画像Azuki世界的美术Vegas大会的前后细节给官方介绍商业合作的沟通铸造 Azuki 一代的体验和铸造 Elementals的体验对比Elementals 铸造完后社群中的声音关于为什么要铸造Elementals，期待与交付现实的割裂Pudgy Penguins 对于潮流文化与IP消费品的探索Azuki饭圈：社区的进一步提纯Twitter: @_kaitoai / @punk9277

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