The ACREL Files
The idea for the podcast was born from the ACREL History Project [initiated by Morty Fisher], and the initial episodes will be a series of interviews with ACREL's charter members and other influential leaders from the early years of the College. In addition to preserving ACREL's history, the podcasts will explore how real estate law has evolved over time, forecast where the practice is going, and understand the impact that ACREL and its Fellows have had on the industry as a whole. DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed in the podcasts solely represent the views of the program participants, and are not...
The ACREL Files - Shobi Khan
Join us for Episode #35 of the ACREL Files with our first international guest. Jay Epstien interviews Shobi Khan, the Chief Executive Officer of Canary Wharf Group. Located on 97 acres in East London in an area that served as a shipping hub for almost 200 years, Canary Wharf is now one of the main financial centers in the United Kingdom and the world. It is the ultimate mixed use project containing major global companies and bank headquarters, together with a booming residential component and extensive shopping, dining, green spaces and cultural events, all of which have been developed in the past 30...
The ACREL Files - Abbe Borok
Season 4 of the ACREL Files continues with Abbe Franchot Borok, the Managing Director and Head of US Debt for BGO. With $89.7 Billion of AUM spanning 25 offices in 12 countries, BGO (formerly Bentall Green Oak) is one of the leading investment, lending and property management companies in the world. Join Jay Epstien as Abbe describes her years of experience with core, core-plus and high yield debt strategies.
Prior to BGO, Abbe was Managing Director and Head of CRE & Debt Strategies at The Amherst Group, and before that was a senior member of the commercial real estate lending team at...
The ACREL Files - Joseph Gyourko
Join us for the first episode of 2026 of the ACREL Files with Joseph Gyourko, the Martin Bucksbaum Professor of Real Estate, Finance and Business & Public Policy at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.
In addition to being a past Chair of the Wharton Real Estate Department, Professor Gyourko has served as the Director of the Zell/Lurie Real Estate Center at Wharton for more than 25 years. Professor Gyourko’s research interests include housing markets in the United States and China, real estate finance and investments, and urban economics. He is a Research Associate of...
The ACREL Files - Christopher Merrill
Season 4 of the ACREL Files continues with Christopher Merrill, Co-Founder and Global Chief Executive Officer of Harrison Street Asset Management, interviewed by Jay Epstien.
Under Chris’s leadership, Harrison Street has grown into one of the world’s largest and most innovative investors in alternative real assets, managing more than $100 billion across real estate, infrastructure, and credit strategies. As Global CEO, Chris is responsible for the firm’s overall strategy, culture, and growth initiatives, pioneering new approaches to real assets investing and powering the next generation of opportunities across the platform.
Chris...
The ACREL Files - Ken Himmel
The fourth season of the ACREL Files continues with Ken Himmel, President of Related Ross, hosted by Jay Epstien. Ken is a nationally recognized leader in the development of successful mixed use projects that combine architectural design and urban planning with dynamic shopping, entertainment, residences, offices and world-class restaurants to bring forth the energy and vitality of an urban destination with resonance to the local lifestyle and culture.
Get ready for an insider’s look at some of the most iconic mixed-use developments in the US, including Columbus Circle’s Time Warner Center (now Deutsche Cent...
The ACREL Files - Jeff DeBoer and Ryan McCormick of the Real Estate Roundtable
Welcome back to Season 4 of The ACREL Files. In our first episode of the season, Jeff DeBoer (CEO) and Ryan McCormick (VP, Tax) from The Real Estate Roundtable join host, Jay Epstien, to unpack The One, Big, Beautiful Bill Act and what it means for real estate investors and operators. They discuss Fannie & Freddie, solar tax credits, the future of terrorism risk insurance and opportunity zones, and emerging plays in data centers and single-family rentals. Essential listening for anyone in CRE.
The ACREL Files - Anthony (Tony) Malkin
Season 3 of The ACREL Files closes (before a summer break) with an interview by our host, Jay Epstien, of Anthony E. Malkin, Chairman, President and CEO of Empire State Realty Trust, Inc. The “World’s Most Famous Building” is part of the more than 8.7 million square feet of office and retail space owned by ESRT in New York City. At a time when most observers in the world of commercial office space focus on newly developed, trophy buildings, Tony provides insights into the transformation of the Empire State Building and other buildings in the portfolio into high performing, low vacanc...
The ACREL Files - Chad Remis
Season 3 of The ACREL Files continues with an interview with Chad Remis, the Chief Investment Officer of Oxford Properties, a leading global real estate investor, developer and manager. Chad oversees the teams responsible for the company’s worldwide investment, asset management and development activities. With over a decade at Oxford, Chad has played a pivotal role in driving the company’s growth and global presence. Under his leadership, the company implemented a strategic capital recycling initiative, significantly diversifying its portfolio by investing in multiple sectors beyond its traditional office building holdings, including industrial, multifamily, life sciences and credit. Chad hold...
The ACREL Files - Mark Rose
The ACREL Files continues with Jay Epstien’s interview of Mark Rose, Chair and Chief Executive Officer of Avison Young, a global leader in providing comprehensive real estate solutions to investors, owners and occupiers across the globe. During his 16 years at Avison Young, Mark has transformed the firm into the commercial real estate services company of the future: data-driven, tech enabled and grounded in a belief that strong culture can advance business goals. Under Mark’s leadership, he and his team have spearheaded the company's expansion from 290 real estate professionals in 11 Canadian offices to approximately 5,000 professionals in 100 offices worldwide. Befo...
The ACREL Files - Mary Ann Tighe
The next installment of The ACREL Files is Jay Epstien’s interview of Mary Ann Tighe, the most prominent member of the “exceedingly small club of women who have managed to move to the top of the brokerage business” as reported by the Wall Street Journal. Crain’s New York Business named Mary Ann the most powerful woman -- across both the public and private sectors -- in New York, and chose her for induction to the Crain’s Business Hall of Fame, observing that she “has a history of…transforming the face of Manhattan.” Among her most significant projects, Mary A...
The ACREL Files - Alex Nyhan
Join us for the 25th episode of The ACREL Files where ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviews Alex Nyhan, the Chief Executive Officer of First Washington Realty, a fully integrated firm that specializes in the ownership of convenience, necessity and experience-oriented retail real estate. First Washington currently owns interests in nearly 150 shopping centers in 22 states and the District of Columbia, totaling nearly 22.4 million square feet with approximately 4,000 tenants and a value of over $9.1 billion. Prior to joining First Washington, Alex was an executive at Forest City Enterprises where he led development activities for major projects in the District of...
The ACREL Files - Steve Weikal
Season Three of The ACREL Files begins 2025 with an interview of Steve Weikal, Industry Chair of the MIT Center for Real Estate’s Technology Hub, which explores innovative new technologies and business models that are reinventing traditional ways of developing, transacting and managing real estate. Steve is also the Managing Partner of MET Fund II, which invests in early-stage startups that have an MIT connection and focus on solutions for the ongoing transformation of the built environment. Previously, Steve was the Head of Industry Relations at the MIT Center for Real Estate. Steve is a member of the CREtech Cl...
The ACREL Files - Noelle Perkins
After an extended summer break, The ACREL Files continues with ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviewing Noelle Perkins, Executive Vice President, General Counsel & Corporate Secretary of Cushman & Wakefield (a Silver Sponsor of ACREL). She leads Cushman’s global legal function, providing strategic advice, guidance, oversight and support to C&W’s global business and operations while playing a critical role in implementing governance and risk management practices for the firm. Noelle joined Cushman from Univar Solutions, where she served as Senior Vice President, General Counsel, Chief Risk Officer & Secretary. Prior to Univar Solutions, Noelle served as Chief Counsel for the...
The ACREL Files - Ron Terwilliger
Before taking a break for the summer, the ACREL Files continues with ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviewing J. Ronald Terwilliger, among the most iconic leaders of the real estate industry in the past 50 years. Ron is chairman emeritus of Trammell Crow Residential Company, a national residential real estate company and the largest developer of multifamily housing in the U.S. for several decades during his tenure as CEO. Ron is past chairman of the Urban Land Institute, where he currently serves as a trustee and established the ULI Terwilliger Center for Housing with his $5 million gift. He also...
The ACREL Files - Debbie Harmon
The ACREL Files 2024 continues with ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviewing Deborah Harmon, an industry leader and entrepreneur with more than 30 years of experience in real estate. Together with Penny Pritzker, she co-founded Artemis Real Estate Partners in 2009. Prior to Artemis, Debbie spent 17 years establishing and leading the principal investing business at JE Robert Companies. Debbie currently serves as Chairperson of the Pension Real Estate Association Foundation, a member of the Boards of Directors of Starwood Property Trust, Urban Alliance, and Sponsors for Educational Opportunity. She also serves on the Advisory Council for the NYU Stern Center for Business...
The ACREL Files - Sarah Hawkins
The ACREL Files 2024 continues with ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviewing Sarah Hawkins, CEO of the East Region for Hines, one of the largest and most respected real estate organizations in the world. In that role, Sarah oversees development, acquisition, asset management, and operations activities across offices in New York City, Boston, Washington, DC and Philadelphia, with $20 billion in assets under management. She is a member of the firm’s global Executive Committee. Sarah joined Hines in 2011 and spearheaded the company’s expansion into senior housing and industrial platforms. Sarah is a rising star in the industry, having been reco...
The ACREL Files - Jeffrey DeBoer
The ACREL Files 2024 continues with ACREL Past President, Jay Epstien, interviewing Jeff DeBoer, the President & Chief Executive Officer of The Real Estate Roundtable. The Roundtable represents the leadership of the nation’s top 150 privately owned and publicly-held real estate ownership, development, lending and management firms, as well as the elected leaders of the 19 major national real estate industry trade associations. Jeff has been at the forefront of national policy affecting the real estate industry for the past thirty-five years. Jeff also chairs the National Real Estate Organization, a 20 member real estate trade association coalition focused on industry communication, advocacy an...
The ACREL Files - Judy Turchin
Welcome to The ACREL Files 2024. We begin the year with ACREL Past President, Jay Epstien, interviewing Judy Turchin, a real estate lawyer with an accomplished career that should be of particular interest to ACREL Fellows. Judy’s journey (which is not over yet) started as a real estate associate at Wachtel Lipton before she joined Lehman Brothers as a Senior Vice President and Legal Officer in the real estate private equity business where she steered the company thru its bankruptcy and the Global Financial Crisis. Following Lehman, Judy joined Blackstone Real Estate, where she served as General Counsel, Chief Co...
The ACREL Files - Roy March
Join us for the final ACREL Files podcast of 2024 when ACREL Past President Jay Epstien interviews Roy March, the chief executive officer of Eastdil Secured, the leading global real estate investment banking company. Eastdil annually transacts over $200 billion per year and has been involved in over $2.8 trillion in transactions since 2007. With more than 45 years of experience at Eastdil across financing, sales, acquisition, and capital markets activities in the US, Europe, and East Asia, Roy is among the most informed and insightful professionals regarding CRE transactional activity around the world. Roy serves on various industry, corporate and community boards, is...
The ACREL Files - Diane Hoskins
The ACREL Files continues with an interview of Diane Hoskins, the Co-CEO of Gensler, by ACREL Past President Jay Epstien. Gensler is the leading global architecture, design, and planning firm with 53 locations and 6,000+ professionals around the world. For her innovative leadership, Diane ranks on Business Insider’s elite “Creators” list, a who’s who of the world’s 100 top creative visionaries. Her insights have appeared in the Financial Times, Harvard Business Review, the Washington Post, and The Economist; and she was a featured speaker at the United Nations’ COP27 Climate Change Conference. She is on the Board of Directors of Boston Pr...
The ACREL Files - David Rubenstein
The ACREL Files continues with an interview of David Rubenstein, one of the Co-Founders of Carlyle and currently its Co-Chairman of the Board, by ACREL Past President Jay Epstien. Under David’s leadership, Carlyle became one of the world’s largest and most diversified global investment firms, with $385 billion of assets under management. Carlyle is an active investor in global real estate. Prior to forming Carlyle in 1987, Mr. Rubenstein had a storied career, including practicing law at Paul Weiss in NYC and Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge in Washington, DC, time on Capitol Hill as Chief Counsel to the U.S. S...
The ACREL Files - Owen Thomas
As the Summer of 2023 comes to a close, the ACREL Files continues with Past President, Jay Epstien’s, interview of Owen Thomas, the Chairman and CEO of Boston Properties. Owen is a recognized leader in the real estate industry with more than 30 years of executive leadership, strategic planning, management and international experience, as well as substantial experience in financial and capital markets. In addition to leading Boston Properties, the largest publicly traded developer, owner, and manager of premier workplaces in the United States, for 10 years, Owen currently is a Director of Lehman Brothers Holdings and served as its first Ch...
The ACREL Files - Sandeep Mathrani
ACREL Files continues with Jay Epstien’s interview of Sandeep Mathrani, most recently the Chief Executive Officer of WeWork. Prior to joining WeWork in 2020, Sandeep was a leader in the world of retail real estate during an extraordinary 35+ year career having served as Chief Executive Officer of Brookfield Properties' Retail Group and Vice Chairman of Brookfield Properties; Chief Executive Officer of GGP Inc.; President of Retail for Vornado Realty Trust; and Executive Vice President at Forest City Ratner. Following his 3+ years at WeWork, Sandeep joined Sycamore Partners, a private equity firm, to lead Sycamore's real estate activity. Mr. Mathrani ea...
The ACREL Files - Len O'Donnell
ACREL Files 2.0 continues with Jay Epstien’s interview of Len O’Donnell, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Affinius Capital (formerly USAA Real Estate Company). Len oversees the company's approximately $35 billion of assets under management for the benefit of the investment portfolio and its 200+ investor clients. Prior to joining USAA Real Estate in 2011, Len was a Principal and Chief Investment Officer for Crimson Real Estate Fund, a real estate opportunity fund which specialized in value-added acquisitions and build-to-suit development. Len earned his B.S. in Business Administration from the University of Delaware.
Join us to hear Len’...
The ACREL Files - Michael Fascitelli
During the past year, ACREL Past President Jay Epstien, has interviewed ten of the most accomplished real estate lawyers in the country who were founders and long-time members of the College. Our podcast series now pivots to a series of interviews with iconic real estate investors who have led the companies that have shaped the industry to share insights on their careers and predictions for the future. ACREL Files 2.0 begins with Michael Fascitelli, one of the most iconic real estate investors in the US. Mr. Fascitelli joined Vornado Realty Trust in 1996, where he remains a member of the Board of...
The ACREL Files - Michael Rubin
The ACREL Files finishes its debut season with podcast host, Jay Epstien, interviewing Michael Rubin. Mike Rubin was elected to ACREL in 1986, served as the College’s President in 2007, and received the prestigious Frederick Lane Award in 2020. In addition, Michael is the past president of the Bar Association of the United States Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the Louisiana State Bar Association, and the Southern Conference of Bar Presidents. In addition to his full-time practice of law, he has taught finance and lending topics at law schools for decades, authored law review articles on finance and lending that have been ci...
The ACREL Files - Nina Matis
Nina Matis was elected to ACREL in 1988 and served on ACREL’s Board of Governors. Among her many accomplishments, Nina co-chaired the real estate practice at Katten Muchin Rosenman, and went on to serve as Executive Vice President and General Counsel of iStar Financial. She also was an Adjunct Professor at Northwestern University School of Law where she taught Real Estate Transactions. Nina’s practice was heavily concentrated in all areas of commercial real estate development and acquisition, financing and partnership law. Nina graduated from Smith College and New York University of School of Law.
The ACREL Files - Sandy Weiner
Sandy Weiner was elected to ACREL in 1982 and served as the College’s President in 2003. Sandy practiced in the Houston office of Vinson & Elkins L.L.P. for his entire career. His practice involved the acquisition, disposition, development, financing and leasing of commercial real estate projects and energy-related projects such as electric power generation, storage facilities, refineries, petrochemical facilities and offshore production platforms. In addition to ACREL, Sandy was a member of the Anglo-American Real Property Institute. He is a graduate of the University of Texas at Austin and Harvard Law School.
The ACREL Files - Morty Fisher
Morton Fisher became a Fellow of ACREL in 1981 and served as the College’s President in 1989. Morty earned his undergraduate degree at Dartmouth and his law degree at Yale University. He led the real estate practice at Frank, Bernstein, Conaway & Goldman before joining Ballard Spahr in 1992, which was a catalyst for the growth of Ballard’s nationally recognized real estate practice. In the early stages of his storied career, Morty worked at Piper & Marbury and spent five years in-house at The Rouse Company. He continued to represent Rouse throughout his career, in addition to TIAA, Connecticut General, New England Life...
The ACREL Files - Portia Morrison
Portia Morrison became a Fellow of ACREL in 1992 and served as the College’s third female President in 2005. Portia earned her undergraduate degree at Agnes Scott College (where she has served on the Board of Trustees) and her law degree at the University of Chicago. Among her career highlights, Portia chaired the real estate practice at Rudnick & Wolfe and received the Howard Kane Award recognizing her exceptional service to the firm, the legal profession and the public. Portia represented many significant national real estate companies during her accomplished career including Prudential, Pritzker Realty and Hyatt Hotels. In addition, Portia wa...
The ACREL Files - Don Siskind
Don Siskind is a Founding Fellow of ACREL, having been elected in 1979 and served as the College’s President in 1997. Don received the prestigious Frederick Lane Award in 2004. Don earned his undergraduate degree at the University of Pennsylvania and his law degree at Columbia University. He was one of the leading real estate lawyers in New York City, combining immense legal experience with business knowledge to provide his clients with the advantages of both. His clients included Cadillac Fairview, Olympia & York, and developers of major properties in NYC and around the country. In addition to ACREL, Don chaired the An...
The ACREL Files - Caryl Welborn
Caryl Welborn became a Fellow of ACREL in 1989 and served as the College’s second female President in 2001. Among her proudest accomplishments at ACREL was the founding of ACREL Cares. Caryl earned her undergraduate degree from Stanford and her law degree at UCLA. Caryl’s practice included all aspects of transactional commercial real estate, specializing in investment structuring. In addition, Caryl was a director of AMB Property Corporation, a public REIT that ultimately became ProLogis, and has been a long-time, active volunteer for the YMCA of San Francisco, serving on its board of directors for many years and as Pres...
The ACREL Files - Bill Dunn
Bill Dunn is a charter member of ACREL, elected in 1979 and serving as President in 1984. Bill’s contributions to the College and the legal profession were recognized when he received the prestigious Frederick S. Lane Award in 2017. He also has served as Chair of the ABA Real Property, Probate and Trust Section. Bill earned his undergraduate degree from Muskingum College and his law degree at the University of Michigan. In addition to being a recognized authority in the area of legal opinions, his practice focuses on infrastructure development; office and commercial acquisitions, development, and leasing; and commercial real estate fi...
The ACREL Files - John Hollyfield
John Hollyfield is a charter member of ACREL, elected in 1980 and serving as President in 1991. John’s contributions to the College and the legal profession were recognized when he received the prestigious Frederick S. Lane Award in 2015. He also has served as Chair of the ABA Real Property, Probate and Trust Section and the Anglo American Real Property Institute. John earned his undergraduate and law degrees at the University of Texas, and served in the US Navy. His practice focuses on mortgage lending, leasing, development, construction, and joint venture partnerships, among other areas of expertise.
The ACREL Files - Steve Cowan
Steve Cowan is a charter member of ACREL, elected with the first class of fellows in 1979. He is also a founder of the California Bar Association’s Real Property Section, and served as Chair of the ABA Real Property, Probate and Trust Section. Steve is a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley and Harvard Law School. His practice focused on real estate, finance, real estate fund formations and bankruptcy/workouts, including representation of non-US investors in the purchase, sale and development of US real estate.