疲惫娇娃 CyberPink

疲惫娇娃已经不知不觉更新了50期！在2024年的年中，我们邀请大家继续支持这四个女的把播客做大做强。感恩有你们。

【聊了什么The What】

这是一期六月份录制的疲惫娇娃的夏日氛围检查。我们紧急（？）抽查了四个女的的精神状态，以及如何应对“2024年怎么就过了一大半”的时间之谜。

同时，我们瞎扯了在这个夏天在各地的旅行和观察，包括眉头紧锁忧虑意大利经济、在南法的戛纳边参加婚礼边沉浸式体验班味十足的影展、在伦敦搬砖却被锁在共享工作室外要靠美国人来救等等。另外我们还闲聊了一些推荐的书和展。以及在路上 vs 在家土豆 vs 在路上土豆的种种支撑四个女的把日子好好过下去的精神养料。

另外，大家可以关注我们的小红书去看我们提到的萨金特展。

Recorded back in June, this is our summer vibe check with CyberPink. We conducted an urgent(?) mental health check on the four women and explored the time-bending mystery of "How is 2024 already half over?"

We chat about our summer travels and observations, our concerns over Europe's economy, recounting our experience attending a distinctly not-chill Cannes film festival, starving in the south of France, being locked out of a shared workspace in London, only to be rescued by overworked Americans.

We also chat about books and exhibitions, and discuss the various intellectual nourishments that keep us going - whether we're potating on the road or couch-potating at home.

Please follow our Red (Xiaohongshu) account to see the Sargent Exhibition.

By the way, CyberPink has quietly reached its 50th episode! As we hit the midpoint of 2024, we invite you to continue supporting these four women in making this podcast a better one.

【时间轴 The When】

02:25 2024怎么就过了一大半 + 山西午休文化

13:45 四个女的为啥吵架——对于发短信、线上沟通的不同期待

29:30 我们几个在夏天去了哪里，做了什么

46:27...

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【聊了什么 The What】

今天这期节目聊了《Challengers 挑战者》，今夏美国最火的电影之一，由已经晋升好莱坞当之无愧一线女星赞达亚、和两位男演员乔希·奥康纳和麦克·费斯主演。电影使用了非线性的叙事方法，从2019年的一场挑战赛的决赛比赛开场，慢慢道出三个人之间情感三角历史，在十多年的纠葛当中，他们之间的关系变得更加复杂，同时网球比赛在他们三个人的生命当中，也成为了爱情三角的具象化。

In today's episode, we unpack this summer's hottest blockbuster "Challengers," starring A-list superstar Zendaya, Josh O'Connor, and Mike Faist. We follow these three gorgeous on-screen characters as the movie volleys back and forth in time to show us over a decade of entanglement, and we dissect how their relationship as friends, lovers, and foes, evolves over time. This episode includes a sponsored ad for Tylenol.

【时间轴 The When】

0:00 泰诺广告时间

3:57 我们对Challengers这部电影的第一感觉

10:00 这部电影的美学，摄影，和独特的视角（最后观众变成了球）

13:20 这场平平无奇的网球比赛其实是三个主人公借假修真的灵魂之旅，人与人的直接竞争

21:18 网球其实是一个不太隐晦的性隐喻 + 专业运动员对本片的评价

30:20 导演对于三人情愫的刻画

32:55 分析Tashi的成长弧线和三个人之间的三角关系

50:20 Tashi是奖赏？是裁判？是三人命运的操控者？

1:04:00 继续分析三角关系，他们每个人都是赢家？

1:17:05 这个电影的植入勾起了强烈的购物欲, 本电影的时尚设计

0:00 sponsored ad for Tylenol

3:57 Our first impressions of "Challengers"

10:00 The film's aesthetics, cinematography, and unique perspective

13:20 This seemingly ordinary tennis match is a journey of self-discovery for the three protagonists in disguise, showcasing the reality of competitive sports

21:18 Tennis as a not-so-subtle sexual metaphor and professional athletes' review of the film

30:20 The director's portrayal of the emotional dynamics between the three characters

32:55 Analysis of Tashi's character arc and the complex love triangle between the three

50:20 Is Tashi deemed a prize by the two men? Is she a referee, or the puppet master of the trio's fate?

1:04:00 Deeper analysis of the love tria

【聊了什么The What】

英国导演Alex Garland的新作《美国内战》(Civil War)以一场虚构的美国内战为背景，引发了广泛关注和争议。作为A24迄今为止最大制作，电影集全明星阵容和炫目视效于一身，更因触及当下美国社会分裂、政治极化的议题而备受瞩目。然而，电影却避开了最敏感的政治问题，转而以四名战地记者为主角展开叙事，聚焦新闻伦理和人性挣扎，也因此被批评为避重就轻。 在本期节目中，疲惫娇娃的两个女的与美轮美换的主播Lokin和小华一起，探讨以下问题：在战争中，镜头背后是新闻理想主义的湮灭，还是人性的回归？在信息过载的时代，我们是否还有余力正视战争和苦难的真相？摄影和报道究竟能否改变世界，抑或终将被时代洪流所淹没？影片刻意模糊了内战的起因和立场，这是否在鼓吹一种危险的相对主义，还是向观众传达了更有价值的提醒？

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Alex Garland's latest film, "Civil War," was set against a fictional war between two different factions within the United States. The film has sparked considerable controversy. It explores America’s political reality through the lenses (zing!) of four war correspondents, centering on journalistic ethics and the struggles of the human condition, but somehow sidestepping all of the more contentious, real political issues currently dividing America. We were not sure if we liked this artistic choice, so we recorded an episode with our friends from 美轮美换 The American Roulette to process it. Do we like Alex Garland’s decision to obscure the causes of the war? Why do we need photojournalism? Do we still have the capacity to process the harsh realities of conflict and suffering, and hold complexities in this age of social media?

With the election around the corner, if you would also like to receive high quality Chinese content on US politics, please consider joining American Roulette's membership program: https://theamericanroulette.com/paid-membership/

【时间轴 The When】

00:01:44 介绍播客《美轮美换》及其关注的2024年美国大选。

00:03:54 讨论电影《美国内战》Civil War的情节和导演Alex Garland的作品。

00:16:13 Alex Garland导演对战地记者职业的矛盾心理刻画

00:41:06 电影对种族主义暴力的直白展现

00:49:06 导演在政治立场上...

【聊了什么The What】

这是“Wife三部曲"的最后一集，这个系列以我们最最熟悉的“妻子”这个社会职能为圆心，画一个谨慎的半径，这个半径包括我们的思考和恐惧，包括作为妻子意味着什么。

然而这期播客可能是我们四个在人生这个阶段录的最重要的一期播客之一 —— 这期播客让我们反思了作为一个有强烈创作欲望，但同时有妻子和母职需要履行的女性应该如何兼容这这些极端的角色。

为了准备这期播客，我们一起读了三本关于女性创作的书：讲述奥威尔妻子艾琳的Wifedom，讲述作家乔治·艾略特的The Marriage Question，和讲述“成为怪物的艺术家”的Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma。许多伟大的男性艺术家背后都有默默付出的妻子，而女性一旦成为母亲往往就被吸干注意力，失去创作的空间。这三本书中被抹去的女性、挣扎的女性、和小心翼翼担忧成为怪物母亲的女性们，都在试探着自我实现和作为妻子/母亲这两者的边界。

同时，我们也通过观察Ursula Le Guin等等女性作者的生命历程和创作历程拷问"伟大的母亲"的角色。当一个伟大的母亲需要为了自己的创作而"离开"，怎么办？在资本主义效率至上的逻辑下，母亲的付出被视为理所当然，价值也被剥夺，但我们是否应该反思和重估母职劳动的价值？

This is the final episode of the "Wife Trilogy," a series that takes the highly familiar social role of the "wife" as its central focus. This topic encompasses our contemplations on the profound implications of being a wife.

However, this podcast episode may well be one of the most significant we have recorded at this stage of our lives. It prompts us to reflect on how an individual with a fervent creative drive can possibly reconcile with the rigid social demands of that of a wife.

In preparation, we collectively delved into three books exploring women's creative pursuits: "Wifedom," chronicling the story of Eileen, the wife of George Orwell; "The Marriage Question," illuminating the private life of novelist George Eliot; and "Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma," examining the notion of the "monstrous female artist." Many great male artists have benefited from the silent sacrifices of their wives, while women, upon becoming mothers, often find their creative energies drained and mental space constricted.

By observing the lives and creative trajectories of women authors such as Ursula Le Guin, among others, we interrogate the notion of the "great mother." Can a good mother just "leave" to pursue her artistic endeavors? Under the capitalist system of efficiency, a mother's contributions are taken for...

【聊了什么 The What】

这是“Wife三部曲"的第二部，以我们最最熟悉的“妻子”这个社会职能为圆心，画一个谨慎的半径，这个半径包括我们的思考和恐惧，包括作为妻子意味着什么。

这集，我们聚焦王室妻子们——从流行文化痴迷的凯特王妃，戴安娜王妃，再到日本的皇室女性——她们的病痛、生育历程、和被大众注视和检验的体验是怎样的？她们的身体如何被媒体咀嚼和消化？她们的身体如何从走入“王室妻子”这一刻就不再属于自己？

凯特王妃的病痛疑云，揭开了她作为完美的王室妻子和母亲在“the firm”的监视和运转中的另一面，同时，戴安娜作为“the firm”反叛者、梅根作为出逃者，是如何被埋葬在王室妻子的角色中，同时被王室妻子这个头衔所惩罚。除去英国王室之外，日本和其他国家的王室女性如何生存？

This is the 2nd part of CyberPink’s "Wife trilogy.” Centering on the ubiquitous role of "wife," we cautiously circumscribe a boundary around it. Within this boundary lie our contemplations and fear, our ponderings on the implications of being a wife.

In this episode, our discussion is about royal wives - from Kate Middleton, the object of pop culture's adoration, to the legendary Princess Diana, to the women of Japan's imperial family. We explore their ordeals with illness, the tribulations of childbirth, and the scrutiny of the public eye. How are their bodies dissected and consumed by the media? From the moment they assume the mantle of "royal wife," how do their bodies cease to be their own?

The specter of Kate's ailments unveils another facet of her role as the quintessential royal wife and mother, meticulously observed and governed by the machinations of "the firm." Diana, the defiant rebel against "the firm," and Meghan, the escapee, find themselves entombed within the role of "royal wife," even as the very title exacts its punishing toll. Beyond the British monarchy, we ponder the plight of royal women i...

【聊了什么The What】

戛纳电影节第四天，《疲惫娇娃》的一芳和《赶场 Way To Cinemas》播客的Selina在戛纳电影宫的天台坐了下来录制本期特辑节目，聊聊戛纳体验和目前看过的电影。

谢谢豆瓣对本期播客的支持，现在豆瓣也可以听播客啦！

剪辑和时间轴：陆小鸟，汤包（赶场）

主播：Selina（小红书 About Cannons）赶场 Way To Cinemas，一芳《疲惫娇娃 CyberPink》

On the fourth day of the 77th Cannes Film Festival, Yifang and Selina (host of Way To Cinemas) sat down to record this special episode, talking about their experience with the festival and the films they’ve seen so far. Thanks to douban.com for their support, you can now find our podcast on Douban.

【时间轴 The When】

00:45 好开心，竟然与《疲惫娇娃》联动上啦！

01:13 第一次来戛纳的一芳

03:07 开幕片《第二幕》

04:14 《原钻》（野性钻石）

06:08 《拿针的女孩》

08:08 《鸟》

09:12 《折射》

10:26 《一部未完成的电影》（本期内容不多，未来会再聊）

12:28 《大都会》“当一个男导演花太多时间去思考罗马帝国，就会拍出来这样一部电影”

14:42 《噢，加拿大》“他的故事，他的人生，他的一切，我根本就不想知道”

16:49 《善良的种类》

24:51 《狗镇》

26:51 《风流一代》

00:45 "Way to Cinemas" is excited to be collaborating with "Cyberpink"

01:13 Yifang's first time at Cannes

03:07 Opening Film: "The Second Act" by Quentin Dupieux

04:14 "Wild Diamond" by Agathe Riedinger

06:08 "The Girl with the Needle" by Magnus von H...

【聊了什么The What】

写在前面： 💡感谢女性情趣品牌「大人糖」赞助本期节目（此处应有掌声），疲惫娇娃听众应该都比较熟悉的老朋友。距离上一次我们和她们合作已经过去了一年。恰逢520即将到来，借着这次契机，争取到了一次难得的福利，不如趁现在送自己或者伴侣一份特别的礼物，收获一份美妙绝伦的感受！

正文： 这是"疲惫娇娃Wife三部曲"的第一部，我们想聊聊近年来在社交媒体上备受关注的"Trad wife" (传统妻子) 现象。

20世纪50年代的美国郊区是一个我们都熟知的画面：白色别墅、核心家庭、金发红唇的家庭主妇形象在宽敞光洁的厨房中忙碌，这幅画面饱含着阶级和政治色彩。对于这样传统家庭、传统妻子的怀念变成了一场运动，近年重新出现在年轻女性的社交媒体中，形成了"Trad wife热潮"，影响越来越多年轻女性。”传统妻子“不仅是一种审美风格，更蕴含意识形态内涵以及一系列生活方式和宗教信仰。这股潮流的走红与当代女权主义相互碰撞，反映出女性在家庭、疫情、经济等层面所面临的困境,以及她们"拥抱传统"以求解脱的天真想法。

疲惫娇娃的几个娃将分析Trad wife在当代互联网上的细分门类（到底有多少种trad wife想卖给我们货???!!!)，以及不同年龄段受众人群的特点，以及这一兼具审美与意识形态内核的复杂现象。

Today we want to dive into the deep internet rabbit hole of "Trad Wife" -- short for traditional wife, this social media phenomenon has taken the world by storm, and we want to unpack it all.

To talk about trad wives, we first have to time travel back to the emergence of the American suburb in the post-war 1950s, the image of the white-picket-fence home, the nuclear family, and the blonde, ruby-lipped housewife that's imbued with class and political undertones. This visually evocative image has resurfaced in recent years on social media, sparking a discussion on the deeper socioeconomic and political undertones of the trad wife revival.

In this episode, we unpack how the trad wife trend is not merely an aesthetic style but also an ideological core with a religious and politically conservative undertone. The rise of this online movement has collided with contemporary feminism, reflecting the challenges women face on various fronts, including balancing family and work, surviving the pandemic, participating in the economy, as well as their naïve embrace of tradition as a means of emancipation.

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【聊了什么The What】

等等，先别划走。就算你对篮球的知识仅限于篮球是圆的，这可能依旧是一期有趣的播客。

体育从来都不止关于体育，竞技体育从来都是流行文化的塑造者也被时代的思潮所塑造。如果你也关注美国竞技体育，尤其是篮球，很难不感受到一个巨大的女子篮球浪潮正在袭来。谁能想到从2019年至今，电视观看人数最高的篮球比赛是大学女篮的总决赛？1870万人次的观看数字远远超越了过去几年NBA的总决赛（丹福掘金对不起），也在互联网上掀起了讨论的热潮。

女子篮球的崛起也与诸多社会议题息息相关。我们与The Athletic的小帆和布鲁克林篮网的思齐一起，聊了聊那些隐藏在数字和赛事之后备受关注的问题：女篮突破了哪些障碍才走到了今天这一步？是什么因素促成了这场变革？我们能从中窥见哪些值得关注的趋势？

Sports have never been merely about the games themselves; they shape the popular culture we engage with, from fashion to music, reflecting the cultural zeitgeist. Those who have been closely following American sports will have noticed the surging popularity of women's college basketball and its standout stars—Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Paige Bueckers, Kamilla Cardoso, and many others. Remarkably, the 2024 NCAA Women's Basketball Championship was the most-watched basketball game on television since 2019, attracting a staggering 18.7 million viewers. This viewership even surpassed last year's NBA Finals (sorry, Nuggets), sparking widespread discussion both online and offline.

In this conversation, we talked to Yifan from The Athletic and Siqi from the Brooklyn Nets, and delved into the factors beyond mere statistics, exploring the obstacles these athletes had to overcome for women's basketball to achieve its current prominence.

【时间轴 The When】

00:00 今年的大学女篮有多火？

15:45 男篮和女篮收入差距能有多大？当女篮在要求涨薪水的时候他们在要求什么？

24:30 假设天降两个非常有天赋的初中生——凯文和凯莉杜兰特，他们从新秀到退役的职业道路会有什么不同？

52:17 为什么不能让篮筐低一点呢？

01:13:18 站在女性、少数族裔、酷儿交叉口的WNBA

00:00 How popular is women's college basketball this year?

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【聊了什么The What】

第96届奥斯卡颁奖典礼在两天前刚刚结束，疲惫娇娃在所有奖项公布之后录了一期播客来聊聊我们当下的感受和反应。在奥斯卡这个奖项在过去的很多年被反复的质疑、挑战之后，在以“学院奖”自居的奥斯卡看起来越来越和时代精神脱节时，我们还是想借助这个颁奖典礼，来重新审视“学院奖”和2023年许多电影（比如《芭比》）和社会事件（比如全世界正在发生的战争）的交织和互动，从而去审视支撑它的历史包袱、权力、固化和正在逐步调整的审美——以及，为什么它仍旧是电影节的最高奖项？赢得它，或者不赢得它，提名，或者不被它提名，意味着什么。

The CyberPink squad is back with an episode on the recently wrapped 96th Academy Awards!

Over the past few years, the Academy Awards have faced a lot of questioning and criticism. As the self-proclaimed pinnacle of cinematic excellence, the Academy is struggling to maintain its reputation and convince people of its relevance. But the Oscars ceremony still provides an interesting lens to examine how this major cultural institution addresses ongoing events - from the writers and actors strikes to the conflict in Gaza. Which films, actors and actresses win ultimately is not based on merit, but on a myriad of factors and a relentless awards season campaign that has become the norm of the industry, a profound legacy of none other than Harvey Weinstein and his company Miramax.

We discuss the history of Oscars, its genre bias, and what we think about the “Barbie snub.”

【时间轴 The When】

00:00 颁奖典礼的回顾和高光时刻

08:23 颁奖典礼外，加沙和乌克兰的战火

21:04 奥斯卡的种族多样性进步了吗？

25:02 奥斯卡颁奖的竞选游戏，包括宣传策略和资源投入

33:05 奥斯卡的类型偏见

48:12 女性导演和女性主导电影在奥斯卡中的困...

【聊了什么The What】

奥斯卡提名的作品《美国小说》American Fiction讲述了一个陷入这样的创作难题的黑人作家Monk——在以自己作为主体的Monk自己的书不被出版界和读者买账，却发现一部“迎合白人观众、贩卖黑人创伤和贫困”的书却大卖。于是Monk决定用通过写一部充满所以刻板印象的“黑人文学”去反抗自己的命运。但是却遭遇了一系列的家庭变故。

把这个故事翻译到疲惫娇娃熟悉的语境中，我们也能找到共通的挑战：女性书写女性的苦难一定是“吃女权饭”吗？亚裔书写亚裔的创伤是“迎合白人观众”吗？如何在忠于自我生活的创作中，同时能够获得创作的体面（收入、关注等等）？如何演绎生活的复杂度，同时也能鼓励其他族群的人和“我”共情？

一个很会写的女的Caiwei也加入了这场对话。

The Oscar-nominated work "American Fiction" tells the story of Thelonius “Monk” Ellison, a Black writer who finds himself in a creative dilemma. Out of anger, spite, and disappointment in the publishing industry status quo, he takes up a pen name and writes a piece of "Black literature" filled with stereotypes as a form of rebellion, yet the publishing world gobbles it all up.

The movie, when translated into familiar contexts, reveals universal challenges: Is it merely a form of capitalizing on feminism when women write about women's suffering? Is it catering to white audiences when Asians write about Asian trauma? How can one stay true to their own life experiences in their creative work, while also achieving dignity in creation (income, attention, etc.)? How can the complexity of life be conveyed in a way that also encourages empathy from people of other ethnic groups?

Caiwei, our a talented female writer friend, also joins this dialogue.

【时间轴 The When】

00:00 电影《美国小说》和电影导演编剧Cord Jefferson

05:58 对家庭故事部分的讨论，包括男主角Monk的家庭背景和家族创伤：人生的复杂度和混乱从Monk的角度徐徐展开