For Better, Worse, or Divorce

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By: Walters Gilbreath, PLLC

For Better, Worse, or Divorce is a podcast where we discuss all matters relating to family law. When it comes to family law litigation, your hosts Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath of Walters Gilbreath, PLLC have a reputation of being fierce and effective. Walters Gilbreath, PLLC represents clients in cases involving a broad range of issues, including high net-worth property litigation, business valuation issues, parental alienation, jury trials, complex property division, and contested custody and possession. For years, our award-winning attorneys have been advocating for the rights of families and we started this podcast to share some tips and insights...

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Episode #141: The Leg Lamp Divorce & What People Really Fight Over (WSJ Series)
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In the final episode of our Wall Street Journal “Cost of Divorce” series, Jake Gilbreath and Austin partner Stefani Preston-Kryder share some of the strangest things they’ve seen clients fight over. Jake and Stefani explain why small items can carry so much weight, what these battles really cost, how Texas courts handle pets, and how to focus your divorce on what truly matters.

If you’re facing a divorce or family law matter in Texas and need guidance from our legal team, visit www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected]. 


Episode #140: High-Net-Worth Divorces with Jacqueline Newman (WSJ Series)
10/07/2026

In the second episode of our WSJ series, NYC divorce attorney and author of "The New Rules of Divorce" Jacqueline Newman joins Jake Gilbreath to discuss what makes high-net-worth divorces different — from lifestyle budgets, negotiations  and what makes a prenup hold up in court. 

To purchase The New Rules of Divorce: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-New-Rules-of-Divorce/Jacqueline-Newman/9781982127947

To contact Jacqueline Newman directly: https://nycdivorcelawyer.com/contact/


Episode #139: Financial Infidelity and When Money Secrets End Marriages (WSJ Series)
09/02/2026

In this episode, Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath kick off a new series breaking down the Wall Street Journal's "Cost of Divorce" investigative series, starting with financial infidelity. Brian and Jake discuss what financial infidelity actually looks like, how common it really is, and what role it plays in divorces they see every day. They also break down how Texas family law treats hidden assets and debt under community property rules, what discovery tools can uncover, and the warning signs to watch for if you suspect something's off in your own marriage.

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Episode #138: Discussing Texas Supreme Court Case Gopalan v. Marsh
08/05/2026

Jake Gilbreath sits down with one of the firm's Of Counsel Jessica Davis to break down Gopalan v. Marsh, the Texas Supreme Court's recent ruling on what "primary residence" really means and why it matters for custody orders across the state.

If you are interested in speaking to someone at the firm about your family law matter, visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected].


Episode #137: Divorce Is A Financial Event | Interview with Michelle M. Smith
07/01/2026

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath sits down with Michelle Smith, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, financial advisor, and managing partner at Savant Wealth Management. Michelle is also the founder of Wife2CFO, a platform empowering women to become confident financial decision-makers.

Jake and Michelle break down common financial mistakes during divorce, why your attorney isn't your financial advisor, and what you need to know before negotiations even begin. 

To contact Michelle Smith directly: wife2cfo.com


Episode #136: "What's Mine is Mine!" Understanding Separate Property in Texas
06/03/2026

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Brian Walters unpack what legally qualifies as separate property, how to prove it in court, and what happens when separate and community property get mixed together over the years. They wrap up the episode by debunking some of the most common misconceptions they hear from clients about separate property, including why having something "in your name" doesn't automatically make it yours. 

If you're going through a divorce in Texas or just want to protect what's yours, our legal team can help. To discuss your situation with Jake or Brian, email us a...


Episode #135: Opposing Counsel, Not Opposing Enemies
05/06/2026

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Ryan Segall discuss why maintaining an amicable and professional relationship with opposing counsel can actually lead to better outcomes in divorce and custody cases. From reducing costs and delays to improving negotiations and minimizing conflict for children, they break down how civility can be productive in family law matters.

If you have a Texas family law matter you would like to speak with one of us about, visit www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected]. 


Episode #134: Digital Evidence in Divorce | Interview with Cody Breunig of Black Dog Forensics
04/01/2026

In this episode, Brian Walters sits down with Cody Breunig, founder of Black Dog Forensics, to discuss the role digital evidence plays in family law cases. From uncovering hidden data to navigating privacy concerns, Brian and Cody break down how forensic experts and attorneys work together to strengthen cases and uncover the truth.

To contact the Black Dog Forensics team directly: https://bdforensics.com/


Episode #133: Strategies in High-Net-Worth Divorces | Interview with Patrick Kilbane
03/04/2026

In this episode, Brian Walters is joined by wealth advisor and author Patrick Kilbane to discuss the complexities of high-net-worth divorces. Brian and Patrick cover what qualifies as high-net-worth, the role of financial experts, and key challenges involving businesses, investments, and executive compensation. They also highlight strategic considerations like cash flow management, privacy, and protecting assets during divorce. Patrick shares practical advice on building the right legal and financial team and steps to take early in the process.

To reach out to Patrick Kilbane directly or get more information on his book: https://www.ullmannwealthpartners.com/team...


From the Vault - Episode #50: "I've Been Served!" Understanding Restraining and Protective Orders
02/18/2026

We are replaying one of our most popular episodes from 2022, "I've Been Served!" Understanding Restraining and Protective Orders, originally released in 2022. In this episode, Jake and Brian discuss the difference between restraining orders and protective orders in regards to family law cases and what it means if you get served with one of these orders in Texas.


Episode #132: Breaking Down Stary v. Ethridge
02/04/2026

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Brian Walters break down the Texas Supreme Court case Stary v. Ethridge and why it's a big deal in family law. Jake and Brian explain why the Supreme Court stepped in and why courts must now take a harder look before issuing long-term no-contact orders between parents and children. 

If you have questions about protective orders in the state of Texas, visit www.waltersgilbreath.com to call our firm directly so our team can help guide you towards a safe path forward as soon as possible. 


Episode #131: Emotional Mistakes in Divorce | Interview with Poonam Bhuchar
01/21/2026

In this episode, Brian Walters meets with TEDx Speaker, author and former attorney Poonam Bhuchar to discuss how emotions can often impact the divorce process. Brian and Poonam review the most common emotional mistakes people make during divorce and how those choices can often lead to costly legal consequences. Poonam shared her SAFE method and other practical tools to help listeners manage emotions, stay credible in court and move through divorce with greater clarity and strength. 

To contact Poonam Bhuchar directly or to purchase her book, visit: https://emotionallysafe.com/


Episode #130: Starting Your Divorce - Planning Your Path Forward (Webinar Recording)
01/07/2026

In this episode, we share a recent virtual webinar hosted by our managing partner Brian Walters and our Dallas-based partner Ryan Segall intended for anyone who has questions about embarking on the divorce process. Brian and Ryan answered attendees questions about the first steps in filing for divorce and what happens in a divorce in the state of Texas. 

If you would like to schedule a consultation with one of our partners or want to register to watch any of our other webinar recordings, please visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us [email protected]. 


From the Vault - Episode #48: Modifying a Court Order in Texas
12/17/2025

We are replaying one of our most popular episodes from 2022, Modifying a Court Order in Texas, originally released in 2022. In this episode, Brian and Jake discuss options after a court order is finalized and how Texas courts decide when a modification can be made, especially when it comes to child custody and support. 


Episode #129: Vouchers and Visitation
12/03/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath discuss the new Education Savings Account (ESA) voucher program launching in the state of Texas in 2026 and how it could impact divorce and child custody cases. Jake and Brian explain how school choice may affect conservatorship decisions, private school enrollment, relocation disputes, and child support considerations.


Episode #128: Job Loss and Support Orders
11/19/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath break down how losing a job or a change in income can affect child support and spousal maintenance in Texas. 

If you are interested in speaking to someone at the firm about your family law matter, visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected].


Episode #127: Private Investigation and Family Law
11/05/2025

Jake Gilbreath meets with Dave Watson, the founder of Watson Private Investigation Services, to break down how PI services are often used in family law matters. Jake and Dave also address concerns people often have regarding personal privacy, surveillance and device tracking by spouses. 

To contact Dave Watson directly: https://www.austininvestigation.com/

If you have a complex family law matter that may require having a private investigator involved to provide critical evidence, email us at [email protected] or visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com. 


Episode #126: Updates to the Texas Family Code 2025
10/15/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters is joined by Houston associate attorney Jaylin Jackson to break down the key updates to the Texas Family Code that went into effect on September 1, 2025. From stricter requirements for non-parents seeking custody or visitation to new child support guidelines and protective order updates, Brian and Jaylin discuss what families, parents, and attorneys need to know. 

If you are interested in speaking to someone at the firm about your family law matter, visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected].


Episode #125: Empowering Clients Through Legal Battles | Interview with Bree Sullivan-Howell
10/01/2025

Brian Walters is joined by Bree-Sullivan-Howell, founder of The Sullivan Firm, LLC, to discuss empowering clients through some of life's most challenging legal battles. Brian and Bree discuss the importance of building strong attorney-client relationships, establishing trust, and equipping clients with the knowledge and confidence to navigate the divorce and custody process. 

To contact Bree Sullivan-Howell directly or purchase one of her books: https://www.sullivan-firm.com/


Episode #124: Navigating Fatherhood and Divorce (Webinar Recording)
09/17/2025

In this episode, we share a recent virtual webinar regarding fatherhood and divorce. Led by two of the firm’s partners in our Dallas office, Ryan Segall and Andrew Speer, this webinar was intended to help fathers better understand their rights and maintain meaningful relationships with their children during and after divorce proceedings.

If you would like to schedule a consultation with one of our partners or want to register to watch any of our other webinar recordings, please visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us [email protected]. 


Episode #123: How to Prepare to Testify in Court
09/03/2025

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath is joined by Andrew Speer, a partner in the firm's Dallas office, to discuss how to prepare for testifying in family law cases. They cover why preparation is critical, what to expect during depositions, and important do’s and don’ts when giving testimony. Jake and Andrew also share tips for organizing documents, handling sensitive information, what happens after you testify, and wrap up the episode by answering a few frequently asked questions. 

If you are interested in hiring our firm for your Texas family law matter, email us at [email protected] o...


Episode #122: Motherhood and Divorce (Webinar Recording)
08/20/2025

In this episode, we share a recent webinar regarding motherhood and divorce. Led by two of the firm’s attorneys, Carson Steinbauer and Jessica Davis, this webinar was designed specifically for mothers facing the complexities of divorce and child custody issues. Carson and Jessica answer attendees questions from mothers who are contemplating divorce, currently navigating the process, or seeking to understand more about their rights and options under family law.

If you would like to schedule a consultation with one of our attorneys or want to register to watch any of our other webinar recordings, please visit us...


Episode #121: Divorcing While Expecting
08/06/2025

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath meets with attorney Priyanka Bins to discuss the legal and emotional aspects of seeking a divorce while pregnant in the state of Texas. Jake and Priyanka review Texas state laws and discuss some of the complexities surrounding filing for divorce while pregnant. The two attorneys also review some legal strategies to consider and wrap up the episode answering a few listener questions. 

If you need help with your divorce, visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected]. 


Episode #120: AI's Role in Family Law
07/16/2025

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Brian Walters discuss the growing role of artificial intelligence in family law. They break down how AI is being used in legal research, document drafting, mediation and financial discovery - and where it may (or may not) replace traditional legal practices. Jake and Brian wrap up the episode by touching on the ethical responsibilities outlined in a recent Texas Ethics Opinion, including the importance of technological competence, protecting client confidentiality and ensuring accuracy. 

If you are interested in speaking to a member of our team or have a topic you would l...


Episode #119: Tax Implications in Divorce | Interview with Tax Attorney Hubert Johnson
07/02/2025

Brian Walters meets with Hubert Johnson, founder of Guardian Tax Law, to break down the complex tax implications of many family law matters. Brian and Hubert discuss how divorce settlements can impact tax deductions and how child and spousal support work under tax laws. They wrap up the episode by discussing mistakes to avoid in tax planning and how family law attorneys can help their clients through the process. 

To reach out to Hubert Johnson directly: https://guardiantaxlaw.com/author/hubert/


Episode #118: A Mother's Journey Navigating Family Law | Real Client Interview
06/18/2025

Jake Gilbreath meets with his previous client Elisabeth to discuss her time being a client of Walters Gilbreath, PLLC. Jake and Elisabeth recap Elisabeth's enforcement and modification cases and Elisabeth details what she learned through the process, resources she found helpful during her case and what was important to her in an attorney/client relationship. 

If you are interested in hiring our firm for your Texas family law matter, email us at [email protected] or visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com. 


Episode #117: How to Save on Attorney's Fees
06/04/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath share practical tips on how clients can save money during their family law case. From smart legal strategies to common mistakes that can drive up costs, Brian and Jake break down what to do - and what to avoid - if you want to keep your legal fees in check. 

At Walters Gilbreath, PLLC, we believe in fair fees and efficiency. If you are interested in hiring our firm for your Texas family law matter, please visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com to schedule your consultation online. 


Episode #116: Discussing No-Fault Divorces
05/21/2025

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Brian Walters break down the ins and outs of no-fault divorces. Jake and Brian discuss the history and evolution of no-fault divorce laws, some of the latest legal developments currently in the news and how potential changes in these laws could impact families, finances and custody battles. 

If you have a divorce case in the state of Texas and are interested in speaking to our team, visit www.waltersgilbreath.com or email [email protected]. 


Episode #115: Divorce Day One | Understanding The First Steps
05/07/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters and Jake Gilbreath break down what happens after you officially retain a law firm for your divorce. From understanding the consultation process and attorney-client privilege to filing the petition, setting communication expectations, and handling temporary orders, Brian and Jake walk through those crucial first steps. The attorneys wrap up the episode by answering common new client questions about billing, timelines, and financial concerns.

If you are interested in speaking to someone at the firm about your family law matter, visit us at www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us at [email protected].<...


Episode #114: Interview with Melissa in Chaos | Parenting Kids with Special Needs, Finding Strength, and Building Community
04/16/2025

On this episode, Jake and Sarah Gilbreath sit down with Melissa Hammerle—mother of four, military wife, and advocate for families raising children with special needs. Melissa shares her journey of parenting two children with complex medical and developmental challenges, including autism, epilepsy, and a rare heart condition. She opens up about the difficult decisions parents in similar situations face, from medical treatments to educational choices, as well as the financial and emotional toll of raising special needs kids.

Melissa also discusses the inspiration behind her social media presence, web site and blog, Melissa in Chaos, where sh...


Episode #113: Navigating Domestic Violence in Family Law Cases
04/02/2025

In this episode, Brian Walters meets with associate attorney Raya Jackson to discuss the critical issue of domestic violence in family law cases. Brian and Raya break down the legal framework and protective measures available to victims, discuss how domestic violence impacts divorce and custody proceedings, and explore the court’s approach to safety and parental rights. The attorneys wrap up the episode by providing legal resources for those affected. 

If you are interested in speaking to a member of our team about your family law matter or have a topic you would like to hear on our...


Episode #112: Complexities in 50/50 Custody | Interview with Leigh Baseheart Kahn
03/19/2025

Brian Walters meets with Leigh Baseheart Kahn, partner of Schwartz Sladkus Reich Greenberg Atlas LLP, a NYC and South Florida-based family law firm, to discuss the complexities of 50/50 child custody arrangements. Brian and Leigh tackle common misconceptions and legal standards that courts consider in 50/50 custody plans as well as challenges that can arise in these arrangements and their experience handling high-conflict situations. Brian and Leigh wrap up the episode with tips for parents considering a 50/50 custody plan, ensuring children's well-being is prioritized while managing co-parenting dynamics.

If you are interested in reaching out to Leigh Baseheart Kahn...


Episode #111: Understanding Mediation in Family Law
03/05/2025

Walters Gilbreath attorneys Ryan Segall and Jessica Davis, both certified mediators within the firm, deep dive into the process of mediation within family law cases. Ryan and Jessica discuss when mediation works best, how they prepare clients and some key factors that lead to successful resolutions. From custody battles to property division, this episode is intended to be especially insightful for those interested in resolving their family law disputes outside of the courtroom. 

If you are interested in working with our firm for your mediation, please email us at [email protected] or visit us at www.w...


Episode #110: "Gray Divorces" and Navigating the End of Long-Term Marriages | Interview with Carolyn Grimes
02/19/2025

Brian Walters meets with Carolyn Grimes, partner at Friedman, Grimes, Meinken & Leischner, PLLC, to discuss “gray divorces” and the complexities to consider for couples headed towards divorce after long-term marriages. Brian and Carolyn wrap up the episode by answering a few listener questions.  

To reach out to Carolyn Grimes directly, visit her firm’s web site: https://www.oldtownlawyers.com/

If there's a topic you would like to see us cover on the podcast, please email us at [email protected].


Episode #109: High-Net-Worth and 2nd Time Divorces: Lessons from the Lopez/Affleck Split | Hollywood & Family Law Series
02/05/2025

For the third episode in our "Hollywood & Family Law" series, Brian Walters, Jake Gilbreath, and the firm's Marketing Director Katy Justice dive into the Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez divorce and discuss how celebrities and high-net-worth couples keep their divorces out of the public light as well as our firm's experience working with repeat clients, whether it be a second divorce or another type of case.  

If you are going through a divorce and have a complex or high asset estate, it is important that you work with lawyers and other professionals that understand the nuanced and i...


Episode #108: Navigating Financial Transitions | Interview with Financial Advisor Jennifer Lee
01/15/2025

Brian Walters meets with financial advisor and author Jennifer Lee on her experience working with clients navigating life transitions, including divorce. Jennifer discusses her divorce checklist, which offers essential tips for people facing financially challenging times and details how these situations can be approached with confidence. Brian and Jennifer wrap up the episode by answering a few listener questions.

To contact Jennifer Lee directly or to order her book, visit: https://squeezethejuicebook.com/ 



Episode #107: 'Tradwives' and Texas Family Law
01/01/2025

In this episode, Jake Gilbreath and Brian Walters dive into the 'tradwives' movement and its implications in modern Texas family law cases. Jake and Brian discuss the challenges and legal considerations that arise when traditional roles meet contemporary family law issues, ranging from divorce petitions to custody disputes. 

If you are interested in speaking to us about your family law matter or if there is a topic you would like for us to cover on the podcast, please visit www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us [email protected]. 


Episode #106: The Bright Side of Divorce | Interview with Marriage and Family Therapist Sammy Jo Allen
12/18/2024

Jake Gilbreath meets with Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor Sammy Jo Allen, LMFT-S, to discuss a recent CNN article titled "the bright side of divorce, according to experts." With the help of the article, Jake and Sammy highlight the positive outcomes of divorce, from new beginnings to healthier co-parenting dynamics and personal empowerment.

To reach out to Sammy Jo Allen directly: https://primepsychiatrymd.com/meet-our-staff/sammy-jo-allen/

If you are interested in discussing your Texas family law matter with one of us, visit www.waltersgilbreath.com or email us [email protected]. 


Episode #105: Relocation Issues in Family Law
12/04/2024

In this episode, Brian Walters meets with Dallas-based partner Carson Steinbauer to discuss the complexities of relocation issues in family law cases. Brian and Carson break down relocation laws in the state of Texas and explore the legal challenges parents often face when seeking to move with their children post-divorce, as well as the impact of custody arrangements and how courts determine what is in the best interest of a child. The two attorneys wrap up the episode by discussing their experience handling cases involving relocation issues and answer a few listener questions related to the topic. 

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Episode #104: Divorce Delays in Pitt/Jolie Case | Hollywood & Family Law Series
11/20/2024

For the next episode in our "Hollywood & Family Law" series, Brian Walters, Jake Gilbreath, and the firm's Marketing Director Katy Justice dive into the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie divorce, exploring what causes lengthy delays in high-profile and complex cases. From custody battles to financial disputes, Brian and Jake discuss some common reasons divorces drag out and how these factors apply in all kinds of divorces, including celebrities and the cases we see every day.

If you have a complex divorce case in the state of Texas you'd like to discuss with our legal team, please email...