The Notorious Scoundrels - A Star Wars Legion Podcast

FORMER World Champion Isaiah Wallace once again joins Mike and I to help us preview both Trench and the B2 Super Rocket Battle Droids. He then tells Mike and I why we're WRONG (but not really that wrong) about the about-to-be-released Jedi Council pack and then regales us with some tales of his local legioning. Finally, Mike asks C3-LP which unit will be next to get jetpacks, and the answer will DEFINITELY surprise you.

00:00 Introduction and Agenda Setting 07:45 Admiral Trench Preview 36:53 B2 Super Rocket Battle Droids Preview 45:38 Initial Impressions of B2 Super Rocket Droids 01:00:19 Forum Ruling...

Brian Baer is here and he makes everything terrible. After some fun speculation about a future release that could be BIGGER (?!) than Mandos, Brian quickly injects his trademark toxicity and makes the usual hosts feel terrible about a variety of things. Is Mike capable of being the voice of reason? (I guess) Is Evan being too hyperbolic about the state of Rebel lists? (No) Is Brian capable of any human interaction that doesn't involve menacing? (LOL)

00:00 Introduction

02:47 Corrections Segment

08:05 Game Mechanics and Strategy Discussion

23:12 Bigger than Mandos???

53:59 Meta Analysis<...

Mike and Evan wax poetic, both in happy ways and the opposite of happy, about the reveals of the upcoming Jedi Council pack. We also ask C3-LP: who is the worst Jedi in Legion? The answer will likely surprise you!

00:00 Introduction and wondering what's next 18:00 New Commands 27:00 Mace....Windu.... 49:00 Ki Adi Mundi 1:05:00 Shaak Ti 1:22:00 Plo Koon! 1:39:00 Overarching thoughts, tournament shoutouts 2:01:00 C3-LP Evergreen Open 8/21-23: https://www.longshanks.org/event/35708/ St Laurent Open Oct 24-25: https://saintlaurentopen.com/ We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https...

We're back already because Upgrade Pack 2 was revealed earlier than expected! Mike and Evan start with a deep discussion on Fire Control, a new upgrade that will likely be taken by the majority of Legion lists in the game, and try to figure out what that will mean. We then cover the remaining upgrades, which run the gamut between auto-includes, never-includes, and one that references rules that don't even exist yet! And do we have takes? YOU BET WE DO!

00:00 Intro 05:30 Fire Control System 30:00 Comms Upgrades 58:00 Gear Upgrades 1:18:00 Training Upgrades 02:03:00 Force Upgrades Credits for the "song" during...

Mike, who is a no-fun DM that will actively prevent you from carrying 15 sets of plate armor around, chats with Evan about a boatload of topics. We cover our latest thoughts on the world cup, books, and Maul: Shadow Lord and yet still MOSTLY spend our time talking about Legion. A surprise new unit! Terrain guidance!....? Can Mike make his Mando list feel a LITTLE more busted? We also cover the results of THE LAND, a two day event that took place in Germany.

00:00 Intro and Nonsense 18:00 New Reveal: Super Rocket B2?! 34:00 Terrain Guidelines 56:00 Updates on Mike's...

Evan and Mike are back! To Talk Soccer! Don't worry that's only for like 10 minutes, then we talk about a REALLY good Mando list Mike has been playing with and cover a couple recent big tournament results! Then, we blow the dust off of C3-LP to get some surprisingly accurate (?!) insight on a new unit...

00:00 Intro and World Cup Silliness 14:00 Mike's Mando List Is Pretty Good 01:19:00 Australian GT 01:47:00 Indy Open 02:09:00 C3-LP Battle for Hoth Winter GT: https://www.longshanks.org/event/32390/ Indy Open: https://www.longshanks.org/event/32259/

We...

FORMER World Champ Isaiah Wallace joins Evan to chat about the Mandalorian customizeables, then we go over some tournament results and of course tie things up with Evan's promised "deep thoughts" about The Mandalorian and Grogu (SPOILER WARNING). ALSO, if you were a new or upgrading Patreon member in April and didnt get your stuff yet, or want giveaways in general, be sure your address is on Patreon AND shared with me. If you have trouble with that, send me a DM and I'll make sure you're taken care of!

00:00 Introduction and customizeable mando talk 56:00 Forge GT 1:04:00...

Mike and Evan FINALLY go over the (almost) FULL realness of the Mandalorians. We also help out the listener by keeping track at the prodigious (?) number of "strays" other units took for the benefit of these Mandos, har har. Note, the leaks for the customizable came out after recording, so we'll cover that next week! Are you impressed we did this in under three hours? 00:00 Introduction and

Episode Overview 5:00 Rules Changes 20:00 Errata 26:00 Mandalorian Battle Force 41:00 New Upgrades 53:00 The Clans 2:10:00 The "Customizable" Question 2:30:00 Bird's Eye View

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Mike and Evan go through the first round of....not quite complete spoilers for Mandalorians. Evan teases "Deep Thoughts" on Mandalorian and Grogu, but we ran out of time so maybe next time, if Mike allows Evan for them to be in the final cut anyway. We also cover a bit of the StabCast Open Invitational as we wonder...is Ohnaka Gang actually maybe insanely good?

00:00 Introduction and Mando Movie Thoughts 13:00 Mandalorian Initiates & Warriors 01:14:00 Mandalorian Leaders 01:58:00 StabCast Open Invitational: Pirates on the Horizon? https://www.longshanks.org/event/33166/ We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out...

Evan chooses his new favorite European country, half from gratitude, half from spite. He also regales Mike with his feats and foibles during the 2026 World Team Championships, which just took place in Copenhagen, Denmark. We also talk about a tournament Mike went undefeated in and then we openly wonder about the future state of the meta. Mandos are on the horizon, and thus we ask MC4LP to come up with an appropriate color scheme and ?power set? for the Scoundrels Clan! #Snipermaxxing

Forbundet, forpligtet, for Kongeriget Danmark!

00:00 Intros and Travel Woes 22:00 World Team Championships...

Mike and Evan get all introspective and stuff. In this episode, we reassure the listeners that we do everything we can to never let things get personal. Then we call out Will Pagani (Development Manager, Atomic Mass Games) by name like eight times.

00:00 Introductions, Nonsense 11:00 Corrections, sponsored by Will Pagani 28:00 Early Experiences with New Rules 1:09:45 Clarifications AND Ohnaka Gang Commands 1:31:00 The Takes Clinic...TOO HOT OR TOO NOT?! 2:12:00 MC4LP - More Civilized Clanker Content Creator for Lazy Podcasters

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Evan is outnumbered on this one, and yet despite being surrounded by developers named Will he asks the questions burning in the minds of at least one, and probably more, Star Wars Legion players:

00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 00:50 Melee ARFs: Are They Going to "Happen?" 10:15 AI: Is it finally a disadvantage? 16:32 Sniper teams: Should Yoda be cowering in fear? 37:10 Character Balancing: When will the kids in the back of the class get picked? 47:15 Mandalorians: Will Evan finally learn how to count?

Evan and Mike go through EVERYTHING about the new rules and points updates. It's a contest of intellectual honesty, where Mike maintains his own while Evan often does not. DO NOT ALLOW THESE TAKES ANYWHERE NEAR FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS OR GASES PEOPLE!

00:00 Intro 05:00 Rules Changes 37:00 New Upgrades 1:21:00 Errata 2:00:00 Points Changes 2:44:30 Hondo Ohnaka Battle Force 2:50:00 Wheel Bike Battle Force 03:17:00 Big Picture Thoughts

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Brian Baer joins us for another toxic episode where we join forces to (accidentally) whittle away at Mike's soul. Did Kalani walk so Thrawn could run (yes)? Will Brian ever apologize for inciting international incidents (no)? Does anyone except for Evan even care about the finer points of linguistics (no)? Has C3-LP learned from the mistakes that got him melted (almost, but not quite)? Join us for a packed episode as we wave goodbye to the current meta, we'll see you on the other side of whatever the hell April 21 is!

00:00 Intro and Nonsense 09:45 Corrections! Featuring...

The FORMER World Champion Isaiah Wallace joins the usual knuckleheads in discussing both real-world and in-game pricing of units both new and old. Mike also shares his VERY different experiences playing Mace Windu and Tauntaun Han. Finally, C3-LP makes his triumphant (?) return to let us know what HE thinks Mace and Han should cost. Join us for an extremely optimistic episode where everything seems fine! 00:00 More Adepticon stuff, and also a 40k board game?! 18:00 Prices 40:30 Points Predictions 1:46:00 Mike has tried Mace and HanTaun and...uh oh 02:06:00 C3-LP Makes His Triumphant Return We are now sponsored by: Legion...

We continued our COMPLETE coverage of the Adepticon reveals, including the exciting announcement of a new Mandalorian Battle Force (which is really like 5 Battle Forces) 00:00 Leaders of the Separatist Alliance 19:45 Jedi on BARCs! 41:00 Mandalorians! 1:22:00 Air Support We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www.legionterrain.com/collect... Game Toppers: Making industrial-quality gaming-focused toppers that turn any table into a gamer's haven. Check them out at https://gametoppersllc.com/game-toppers/ and use promo code TFT15 at checkout for 15% off their next order of Game Mats or other accessories (items already on...

We're back from Adepticon and we had WAY TOO MUCH TO SAY so we're splitting this into two eps, we'll release the next one tomorrow! This first episode focuses on Adepticon itself, our own middling performance, and the Top 8 before beginning our deep dive into the spoilers from the 2026 Roadmap Presentation we were both present for! Top 64 Longshanks: https://www.longshanks.org/event/33316/

00:00 Preamble 00:02 Intro, GIVEAWAYS, Shoutouts, Travel Talk 00:14:00 Adepticon General Tournament Talk 00:44:00 Adepticon Top 8 Talk 1:39:00 Adepticon Reveals: Jedi Council We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www...

Adepticon 2026 Interview With Atomic Mass Games

Mike and Evan talk a bit of last minuite Adepticon prep (including: Evan lost a game with Grievous!) before diving in to talking about all the newly revealed battle cards. Shadow Collective...we'll, maybe see you in two episodes, we swear, we really do like you. Also, a SHOCKING twist in the ongoing C3-LP drama, until his replacement ultimately sabotages the entire cast by somehow messing up Mike's internet. You don't want to miss it!

26:00 New Advantages 51:00 New Primaries 01:18:00 New Secondaries 01:48:00 New Battle Cards: How They Change Balance 02:12:00 Introducing...MC4-LP?!

Evan and Mike once again punt on the Shadow Collective Tier List because a whole bunch of news came out. We discuss what will likely be the new (new, new) busted hotness that is Rebel Han's 1-Pip as well as a partial reveal on Mace Windu and the SURPRISE full reveal of the Imperial High Command pack. We then sadly say goodbye to this iteration of C3-LP, for reasons you'll have to hear yourself. Requiescat en lava you rusty trash pile.

https://youtu.be/XD-cZz7tl74

05:00 Han and Luke Commands 47:00 GT Prizes and Mace...

Evan and Mike cover the surprising news about changes at Atomic Mass Games (the studio that creates Legion) then dive into talking about Mike's Ahsoka list as he prepares for Worlds as well as covering other winning lists in the current metagame. We also once again are "shocked" by how much C3-LP screws up when talking about Legion and dive a bit into the revealed POINTS for Han and Luke on Tauns. We recorded this episode BEFORE we saw their insane command cards, more on that next week!

00:00 Intro + Shifting Tides at Atomic Mass Games

Evan finally owns up to a few corrections after recounting his recent game against the World Champ, then we dive right in to talking about the now fully-revealed TSMEU Wheel Bike special forces unit for CIS. Will it make the broken more...broken? We also review a Patron Tempest Force list and discuss Empire as a whole before consulting our least favorite clanker, C3-LP for his thoughts on a certain "treaded" vehicle.

00:00 Intro and Evan vs. the World Champ (again) 19:00 Corrections 33:00 TSMEU Wheel Bike Discussion 1:14:00 Patron List Review: Tempest Force 1:24:00 Expanded Empire Meta Thoughts 1:33:00 C3-LP <...

Mike and Evan chat up some recent winning lists and discuss the latest round up of legion stats. Also, Evan goes on a long rant about a bodily function, Mike laments the Patriots loss, and we dig C3-LP out of the trash can though we probably should have left him there. 00:00 Intro, Contest Winners, Super Bowl Talk, and also ?Potty Talk?

17:30 A Brief Rehash of Riot Control Squad 29:00 High Performing List Roundup 1:30:00 Stats Analysis 02:03:00

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Mike and Evan round out the faction tier lists by covering the Galactic Empire, after commenting a little bit on the recent changes at Lucasfilm. I will let this one speak for itself, and we very much look forward to the comments!

One random commenter will get an Agent Kallus expansion!

00:00 Intro and Nonsense 7:00 Talking Kathleen Kennedy & Dave Filoni?! 18:00 THE EMPIRE TIER LIST 02:28:00 Summary Thoughts on Empire We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www.legionterrain.com/collections/ice-planet Game Toppers: Making industrial-quality gaming-focused...

Enemy of the Podcast Brian Baer (3rd ranked Rebel player on Longshanks, an "unassailable" metric of skill) "graces" us with his presence once more to share his thoughts on where the MANY units in the Rebel Alliance land. Did we place R2-D2 one tier too high? Did we take a stand on Leia to challenge AMG to do better by her? Is Evan dismissive of the Legion opinions of the WORLD CHAMPION?! Yes. One random commenter will get a Han Solo expansion! Windy City Longshanks: https://www.longshanks.org/event/28862/ 00:00 Intro and More on the Windy City Open...

Mike and I cover some basics from the Windy City open as well as another (?!) tournament where Evan goes undefeated but still doesn't win. After that, we cover GAR Tier lists and, OH BOY, Mike has some opinions. One random commenter will get a Commander Cody expansion!

00:00 Intro 04:00 Windy City Open 14:00 Mox Bellevue (Seattle Area Local) 24:00 GAR Tier Lists 2:11:00 C3-LP: Clanker Content for Lazy Podcasters

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A "Holiday Parade of Oppression" is here as we kick off the new year by ranking the CIS units with your two favorite scoundrels, one of whom is unassailably, objectively, the best CIS player in the world (LOL). Plus, Mike has some very cool ideas about Tours of Duty and C3-LP gives us the first offering that is not only interesting but also actually legal in Star Wars: Legion in what feels like weeks.

00:00 Intro, Star Wars Ranking Nonsense 05:22 Tours of Duty League Ideas 24:00 CIS Tier Lists 2:00:00 C3-LP: Clanker Content for Lazy Podcasters We are...

Isaac and Owen from The Fifth Trooper Podcast join Mike and Evan to air grievances about Legion and other things in this much-shorter than usual episode with even fewer (YES I SAID FEWER) useful bits of information than usual. Mike questions the legitimacy of "Nyquil Chicken," Owen questions whether Star Wars Eclipse is even real, Isaac questions what the guy in line at Starbucks REALLY knows about public health, and Evan questions the TV viewing habits of his co-hosts...and also, whether there is literally any hope at all. 00:00 Introduction and Soda Delivery Systems 08:12 Introduction to Festivus 11:07 Mike Grievance 1...

Isaac and Owen from The Fifth Trooper Podcast join Mike and Evan to air grievances about Legion and other things in this much-shorter than usual episode with even fewer (YES I SAID FEWER) useful bits of information than usual. Mike questions the legitimacy of "Nyquil Chicken," Owen questions whether Star Wars Eclipse is even real, Isaac questions what the guy in line at Starbucks REALLY knows about public health, and Evan questions the TV viewing habits of his co-hosts...and also, whether there is literally any hope at all.

00:00 Introduction and Soda Delivery Systems 08:12 Introduction to Festivus 11:07...

Brian Baer joins us to explain a variety of toxic strategies as we cover Gungans basically being confirmed (ugh), the newest meta numbers, and whether or not Customizable Jedi do "cool stuff" https://www.patreon.com/thefifthtrooper Chapters: 00:00 Introductions 06:15 Gungans are probably happening... 19:00 Corrections 22:40 Patron List Review: Stormtrooper Battalion (JayWhyte) 43:00 Brian talks up the tournament he just won 1:13:00 Meta by the Numbers 1:37:00 C3-LP Gets More Toxic Than Ever Brian's tournament: https://www.longshanks.org/event/29903/ We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www.legionterrain.com/collections/ice-planet Game Toppers...

Evan (according to Longshanks, and literally no one else, a Top 5 CIS player at the moment) still avoids losing tournament games with Bike GG and STAPS, we finish talking about future releases, and RESPOND to some HOT TAKES given by the LEGION DEVS on...A DIFFERENT PODCAST? Then, Mike is finally mean to C3-LP, and our cruelty goes...un-rewarded.

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Chapters: 00:00 Intro 03:59 Evan went 3-0 again 9:08 Outflank...

"A man of wealth and culture requires protection of equal prestige" - Hercules Rockefeller

When Kyl-...sorry, Hercules Rockefeller returns to the podcast we talk about the new Battle Forces, the balance update, some upcoming releases, and the most insane answer from C3-LP so far.

This was my hardest episode title so far, other options were:

-An Investment in Fear

-No Wasted Motion

-Loyalty is Their Armor, Silence is Their Weapon

-My Personal Invitation Only Regiment

-Cultured in Violence

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The Notorious Scoundrels deliver yet another HARD HITTING interview that SHAKES Will Shick and Will Pagani TO THE CORE!!! NEW REVEALS are made when one of the Wills throws us a bone to get us to just shut up about a couple of topics, SHOCKING ADMISSIONS ABOUND where ONE of the Scoundrels admits he is PROUD of the cheating. WHY DOES A WHEEL BIKE GET TO OVERRUN AN AIRSPEEDER?! IS SIXTEEN ARC TROOPERS IN A UNIT TOO MANY?! WILL ADMIRAL TRENCH BE INVINCIBLE?! There is only one way to find out...

00:00 Introduction and Welcome Back 02:17...

Evan's cheating continues as he took down the Oklahoma Open with basically the same list as last week?! We go over that, then start going over our Ministravaganza coverage, starting with the new upgrades and battle cards!

Chapters: 0:00 Introduction/Shoutout 8:00 They let Evan cheat enough to win OK Open 42:40 New Upgrades! 1:15:00 New Advantages! 1:36:00 New Secondary! 1:46:00 New Primary!

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Surprise! We came back for an episode we thought we weren't gonna get to record! We get some list pre-Ministravaganza thoughts in before chatting about a couple of events we took home over the weekend with lists that feel QUITE nasty. One of them was even a GT?! Tune in to hear about all the cheating.

00:00 Introduction and Excitement for MiniStrav 14:17 The BC GT 01:08:03 Mike ALSO Played a Nasty List 01:26:06 Meta Predictions and Future Changes 01:30:56 C3LP

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We have the World Champ Isaiah Wallace back to chat a bit about the new customs and Clone Marksman but mostly we PREDICT THE POINTS!!! We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www.legionterrain.com/collections/ice-planet Game Toppers: Making industrial-quality gaming-focused toppers that turn any table into a gamer's haven. Check them out at https://gametoppersllc.com/game-toppers/ and use promo code TFT15 at checkout for 15% off their next order of Game Mats or other accessories (items already on our clearance page or Toppers are excluded)!

Evan announces our contest winners, then we go right into covering our TAKES on General Grievous on the Wheel Bike and Clone Marksmen, with a list review in the middle for good measure. Finally, C3-LP becomes more troubling than ever when he, apropos of nothing, starts insulting the intelligence of Wookiees.

Galaxy on Fire GT: https://www.longshanks.org/event/25903/ Deploy the Games (the small tourney Mike went to): https://www.longshanks.org/event/27827/ We are now sponsored by: Legion Terrain: Check out the terrain they sent me at https://www.legionterrain.com/collections/ice-planet, and...

Hey gang! No Scoundrels this week for reasons I get into in the intro, but I'm glad to unlock the first part of my little brother and I ranking as many Star Wars video games as we could think of (that we played...which is most of them). There's no video of ourselves because we recorded this when I was even more of a content noob than I am now, but we have the screenshare up of our tierlistmaker. Part 2 is up for all paid members of the Patreon right now if you're curious! If you want to wait...

Evan and Mike spent a good deal of time talking about bloody conflicts between Denmark and Canada, we talk some recent tournament experiences on our end, get into the results of the recent (and quite large) GT in Warsaw, Poland, and generally risk making multiple parties mad at us once again.

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Brian Baer joins us to talk about lots of recent tournament-winning lists, the meta at large, Dale Earnhardt, daily carb intake, the state of the current meta, whether Mike and I are ever wrong about things (no), and somehow much more!

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