Science of Running

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By: Steve Magness

An in depth look at training, coaching, Sport Science, and anything else that relates to enhancing endurance performance.

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Rethinking Recovery: The Essentials of Rest and Resilience
Today at 8:14 AM

Steve Magness and John Marcus rant about the “recovery industrial complex,” arguing that while recovery knowledge has improved, monetized gadgets can waste money, create psychological fragility, and give a false sense of control—especially as aging brings non-negotiable limits. They emphasize prioritizing foundational recovery: consistent good sleep (the key “canary”), adequate fueling and hydration, and managing…


Beyond Mileage: The New Rules of Summer Base Training
08/17/2026

Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus discuss an updated approach to summer base building that keeps aerobic mileage as the foundation but adds “spices” year-round to prepare athletes for race demands. Instead of a reductionist focus on aerobic capacity alone, they emphasize integrating neural coordination, mechanical efficiency, and structural tissue resilience to reduce injury risk and…


Patience in Performance: Delayed Gratification in Training
08/11/2026

Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus discuss the art and science of delayed training effects, arguing that training adaptations are non-linear, hard to quantify, and often misunderstood as quick “return on investment.” They contrast complicated vs complex systems, noting hidden variables and individual response rates that make simple timelines unreliable. Using examples from elite runners, David…


Navigating the Unpredictable: Managing Athlete Injuries
08/04/2026

In this week’s episode Steve and Jon discuss injuries as an unavoidable, unpredictable part of running due to impact and eccentric loads, arguing coaching has shifted from “rest and hope” to creative training that maintains fitness without worsening injury. They outline a framework for evaluating injuries by type (bone, soft tissue, metabolic/overtraining, and “WTF” injuries),…


Unlocking Potential: The Power of Constraints in Coaching and Training
06/02/2026

The episode focuses on constraints in coaching: manipulating training and environment to drive physical and psychological adaptation by identifying and widening an athlete’s primary bottleneck. David Epstein recounts Sheila Taormina learning the Theory of Constraints in college, shifting from aerobic volume to strength/power, making the Olympic team, winning relay gold, and later competing across four…


Marius Bakken on the Norwegian Method: Double Threshold, Lactate Control, and Muscle Tone
05/26/2026

We host Olympian and Norwegian-method innovator Marius Bakken and talk bout the history and principles behind double-threshold training, lactate testing, and “muscle tone” as a key limiter of recovery and performance. Bakken contrasts lessons from coaches like Joe Newton, Peter Coe, and others, emphasizing long-term progression and balancing load with precision rather than uncontrolled intensity.…


Part 3: The Art and Science of Peaking
05/19/2026

Steve Magness and John Marcus continue their peaking series by reframing peaking as maintaining fitness while eradicating fatigue so athletes can express existing fitness on race day, rather than expecting a magical performance boost. They emphasize that peaking is as psychological as physiological: coaches must set realistic expectations that racing will still feel hard, shift…


Coaching Successfully Series Part 2: Defining Your Training Approach
05/12/2026

Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus discuss how coaches should define a training approach without falling into two traps: having no coherent philosophy by mixing everything, or rigidly copying one system with no flexibility. They argue training must account for environment and reality (altitude, heat/humidity, sea level), athlete population, and psychological constraints, not just physiology or…


Defining Coaching Success: Philosophy, Boundaries, and Authenticity”
05/05/2026

Coaching Successful, Part 1: Defining Your Philosophy and Boundaries Steve Magness and Jon Marcus begin a “coaching successful” series by arguing that sustainable high-level coaching depends less on perfect training plans and more on clearly defined philosophy, boundaries, and principles. They discuss the messy identity shift from athlete to coach and warn about “boundary creep,”…


Training the Brain and Body: A discussion on the dynamics of physiology and neurology.
02/17/2026

The Illusion of Optimization: Balancing Physiology and Neurology in Coaching In this episode of the Coaching Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus dive into a deep discussion about the complexities of coaching that lie beyond the modern obsession with optimization. They argue that true coaching success comes from a balance between understanding physiology…


Fit and Fast: Achieving Robustness in Training
02/10/2026

Balancing Fitness and Robustness: The Importance of Neuromuscular Coordination in Training In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, Steve Magness and Jon Marcus discuss the concept of ‘fit but flat,’ exploring the phenomenon where athletes excel in metabolic fitness but fail to perform competitively due to a lack of neuromuscular coordination. Using examples like…


Mindset Matters: Training the Mind for Peak Race Day Performance
01/21/2026

Mastering Race Day Mindset: Proven Strategies and Quirks In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jon Marcus delve into the psychology of training the mind for race day. They explore the importance of adopting a growth mindset over a fixed mindset and the critical role of visualization in achieving peak…


Recovery Demystified: Focus on What Really Works
11/04/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, we delve into the critical topic of recovery, emphasizing the importance of keeping it simple and avoiding the pitfalls of the ‘industrial complex of recovery.’ They discuss the transformation of recovery techniques from the early days of simple practices like hydration and nutrition to the modern inundation…


Coaching the New Runner. Part 2: Individuals
10/14/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jon Marcus walk you through how to coach a runner from the very start. From the training to the mental game, we cover it all. -Steve Steve’s NEW Book is OUT NOW: Win The Inside Game! Learn how to perform under pressure, come…


Coaching the New Runner. Part 1: In a team setting.
09/15/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus discuss the challenges and strategies of coaching new runners in a team setting. They emphasize the importance of creating an inclusive environment where newcomers feel integrated, see progress, develop intrinsic motivation, and avoid burnout. The hosts share practical tips for introducing…


Footwear Insights: From Training Flats to Super Cushions
09/09/2025

Mastering the Art of Super Shoe Training In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, Steve Magness and Jon Marcus delve into the timely and highly requested topic of using ‘super shoes’ in training. They revisit the evolution from traditional trainers to modern super shoes and super-cushioned shoes, discussing their impacts on performance and recovery.…


Exploring the New Era of Training: Embracing Experimentation
08/11/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, Steve Magness and Jon Marcus delve into the current era of training experimentation, inspired by a recent in-depth discussion in the Scholar Program. They explore historical ebbs and flows in training practices, highlighting the 1960s experimentation period, and draw parallels to today’s innovative landscape influenced by super…


Keeping Training Fresh: Science, Methods, and Strategies
07/07/2025

In this episode of the ‘On Coaching’ podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jon Marcus discuss the importance of consistency in training and coaching. They delve into how simple, repetitive actions over time foster the capacity to achieve larger goals. Highlighting historical examples such as the training logs of Jack Lovelock, they emphasize the value of…


NCAA Track Champs: Key Takeaways for Racing and Training
06/30/2025

Exploring Racing Tactics and Mental Preparation from NCAA Championships In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus dive deep into the insights and lessons from the recent NCAA Championships. They highlight key performances, such as record-breaking steeple chases and tactical 1500 meters races, and discuss the evolving dynamics of…


Consistency Creates Capacity: The Power of Simple Wins in Training
06/16/2025

In this episode of the ‘On Coaching’ podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jon Marcus discuss the importance of consistency in training and coaching. They delve into how simple, repetitive actions over time foster the capacity to achieve larger goals. Highlighting historical examples such as the training logs of Jack Lovelock, they emphasize the value of…


Double Threshold Training: Applying to Track, Cross-Country, and Marathon
06/10/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus dive deep into the concept of double threshold training. They discuss its application to track, cross country, and marathon training, and highlight different implementation strategies for various running events. The episode includes a historical perspective on double threshold training, detailed practical…


Putting it All Together: Speed, strength, endurance, recovery for runners of all ages.
05/20/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jon Marcus discuss the complexities of holistic coaching and how to effectively integrate various training components for athletes. They emphasize the difference between stimulating and confirmation workouts, the importance of understanding time horizons for adaptation, and the necessity of balancing multiple training qualities…


The Psychology of the Modern Athlete: The Impact of Social Media and Perception of Reality
05/07/2025

In this episode, hosts Steve and Jon dive deep into the psychology of modern athletes, emphasizing the impact of social media on athletes’ perceptions of reality and mental health. They discuss the transition from local to global comparisons and how it has led to increased pressures and altered motivations for young athletes. The conversation covers…


Mastering Your Mind: 5 Keys to Stop Self-Sabotaging
04/15/2025

The five insights discussed include recognizing self-sabotage, balancing exploration and commitment, building your own home field advantage, balancing caring deeply with letting go, and the importance of belonging over just fitting in. The episode highlights these concepts through relatable anecdotes and research studies, aiming to help listeners shift from a survival mode to a thriving…


The Truth about Lactate Threshold | Your Comprehensive Guide
04/07/2025

In this episode, we dive deep into the concept of lactate threshold, debunking common myths and explaining its significance in athletic performance. We discuss the science behind lactate production and utilization, looking at lactate curves and their role in determining endurance levels. The episode covers various methods to accurately measure lactate threshold and explains the…


So You Want to Be a Champion: Part 3: How to Recover. How to Connect
03/24/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus dive into the third part of their three-part series on becoming a champion. This segment, ‘How to Recover. How to Connect” focuses on the oft forgotten part of greatness: the team around you and the relationships you develop. Steve’s NEW Book…


So You Want to Be a Champion: Part 2: How to prepare. How to Train
03/03/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus dive into the second part of their three-part series on becoming a champion. This segment, ‘How to Train,’ explores the nuances and complexities of transitioning from preparation to high-level training. They discuss the critical distinction between preparation and training, emphasizing the…


So You Want to Be A Champion? Part 1: How to think How to Act.
02/24/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, Steve Magness and Jon Marcus kick off a three-part series on what it takes to become a champion. They delve into the essential mindset and behaviors needed to succeed at the highest levels of athletic competition. Steve and John discuss the importance of long-term vision, delayed gratification,…


Bonus Episode: The Biology of Winning and Losing…with a crazy twist!
02/06/2025

A special bonus episode! We’re going to try something a bit different. We’re talking the mental side of sport, the biology of winning and losing, and much more. Except…your hosts aren’t Steve and Jon. They are AI. We fed Steve’s book, Win the Inside Game, to the algorithm to make a podcast, and quite frankly,…


266: Overcoming Choking and Underperformance: The Science and Psychology of Pressure
02/03/2025

In this episode, Steve Magness explores the psychology and science behind performance anxiety, choking, and the phenomenon known as ‘the yips’ in sports. Drawing on his experience working with top athletes from various sports, Steve delves into how stress responses can both help and hinder performance. Through a blend of personal stories, scientific research, and…


265: Consistency wins: How to be consistent in the face of volatility and unpredictability.
01/28/2025

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus delve into the essential concept of consistency in achieving athletic success. We begin with an announcement about Steve’s new book, ‘When the Inside Game is Almost Here,’ focusing on mental performance under pressure. They then explore how consistency is crucial in…


264: The Science of Surging: How to Pull Away from the Pack Mid-Race
01/20/2025

In this special 10-year anniversary episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus delve into the intricacies of surging during races. They explore both the physiological and psychological aspects of initiating and responding to mid-race surges, sharing insights from personal experiences and expert strategies. They discuss how to prepare athletes to…


263: The Workouts Come Second: Teaching Comes First
01/13/2025

The Importance of Teaching in Coaching In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus emphasize the significance of teaching in coaching, arguing that workouts should come second to effectively educating and connecting with athletes. They explore the ways in which a pedagogical approach, akin to old-school coaching legends, fosters…


262: Do drills work? The case for and against
01/06/2025

The Nuance of Drills: Do They Really Work? In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus delve into the controversial topic of whether drills are effective in enhancing running mechanics and athletic performance. They discuss the history, purpose, and context of various drills, offering insights into how they can…


261: How to Write Training Part 2: Nuance, making adjustments and tweaks
12/30/2024

The Art of Coaching: Insights on Adjusting and Perfecting Training Plans In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus share their perspectives on the importance of knowing how to make adjustments and tweaks to training plans, especially during different phases of a season. They reflect on the excitement of…


260: How to Write Training Part 1 Getting Started
12/23/2024

Mastering Training Plans: Foundations and Strategy In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, Steve Magness and John Marcus dive into the essentials of writing effective training plans for athletes. They discuss the importance of understanding the individual athlete, their training history, and their goals. They emphasize the seesaw balance between endurance and speed, setting…


259: Race Day Meltdown: Strategies and Solutions for Bouncing Back When Everything Goes Wrong.
12/02/2024

In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, Steve Magness and Jon Marcus delve into the challenges of handling race day meltdowns. They discuss the emotional and psychological aspects that both athletes and coaches face when things don’t go as planned. Using personal anecdotes and real-life examples, they illustrate the importance of relationship building, understanding…


258: Longer Long Run or Faster Long Run!
11/25/2024

The Great Long Run Debate: Length vs. Speed In this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus dive into the classic debate on long runs: should athletes focus on longer durations or faster paces? They explore the history and benefits of long runs, referencing training methods from legendary coaches like…


257: Workouts are only 40% of the equation. A podcast about the other 60%
11/17/2024

In this episode of the On Coaching podcast, Steve Magness and Jonathan Marcus discuss the importance of a holistic approach to training. They argue that workouts constitute only 40% of the equation for peak performance, emphasizing that stability in life, sleep, nutrition, and stress management play crucial roles. The hosts share personal experiences and examples…


256: The science of going out hard and hanging on to win
10/07/2024

n this episode of the On Coaching Podcast, hosts Steve Magness and John Marcus discuss the intricate demands of cross country racing that go beyond mere physiological preparation. They explore the need for strategic pacing, especially the importance of ‘going out hard’ right from the start of a race to secure a competitive position. The…