Emotionally Uncomfortable

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By: Hosted by Heather Chauvin | Insights inspired by Mel Robbins, Bréne Brown,

All external pressure is off ladies! It's time to listen to the inner pull. Mastering the art of knowing when to slow down and breathe vs. when to take action. It's time we value our desires. See your value. Own it. Communicate it. It's time to become wildly #emotionallyuncomfortable This podcast will crack you open and force you to grow. Interviews and storytelling about business, emotional intelligence, creativity, love, being different, parenting, and more...

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1286: [LIFE UPDATE] I Tracked 4 Types of Profit for 90 Days. Here's What Happened
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"What you did up until this point in your life doesn't always mean that it's going to be the thing that gets you to the next point."

In this episode, Heather explores what happens when the strategies, habits, and ways of operating that got you to where you are today are no longer what will get you where you're going next. As your life, business, and capacity change, so do the ways you need to spend your time, energy, and attention. She gets into the four types of profit, what your resentment can reveal about what you're...


1285: What It Takes to Become Someone New With Coach Keren Eldad
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10/07/2026

"The work is work, and the rattling of your cage comes with side effects, and you have to know that in advance before entering."

In this episode, Heather and Coach Keren Eldad talk about what happens after the breakthrough: pushing against the edges of an old identity, recognizing the behaviors that accompany restlessness, and learning to move through resistance without taking it as a sign to stop. They explore what it means to reach "cruising altitude," where momentum starts carrying you forward, and you finally stop negotiating with the life you actually want. We also get into...


1284: How to Stop Outsourcing Your Financial Future With Josh Smith
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09/30/2026

"The best way you can help teach your kids is by modeling your own life, especially when it comes to money and investing."

In this episode, Heather and Josh Smith get into the uncomfortable reality of what happens when you continue to outsource the financial part of your life, assuming someone else will handle it or believing you're simply "not a money person." They talk about the shame and scarcity that keep people from learning, why investing has been made far more complicated than it needs to be, and how small, consistent decisions can fundamentally change your...


1283: What Happens When You Stop Asking for Permission to Live With Dr. Amanda Hanson
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09/23/2026

"It's a fallacy that when a woman takes center stage in her life, everyone else suffers. No, everyone else expands."

In this episode, Heather and Dr. Amanda Hanson dig into the moment when a woman begins to realize just how much of her life has been shaped by expectations, conditioning, caretaking, and the insidious belief that everyone else gets a say before she does. They explore what happens when you start deconstructing the ground you were planted in and questioning the influences behind the choices you've made, the relationships you've maintained, and the ways you've learned to...


1282: Grit, Muscle, and Connection
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09/16/2026

"Grit will keep you going. But when you just keep showing up because you're living in a place of survival, sometimes you gotta fight like hell to feel alive."

In this episode, Heather explores the complicated relationship many ambitious women have with striving, success, and the never-ending pressure to keep moving toward what's next. Ambition is a powerful force, even a deeply human and spiritual desire, but when we live in the shadow of our strengths, the very qualities that help us achieve can begin to drain us. She talks about recognizing when your to-do list has...


1281: How Good Are You Willing to Feel? With Dr. Maggie
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09/09/2026

"If you want to feel alive and energized and lead people, you've got to do things differently."

In this episode, Heather and Dra. Margarita RamĂ­rez (aka Dr. Maggie) step into a deeply personal conversation about what it means to take ownership of your health, question the beliefs you've inherited about your body, and remain open to possibilities outside the systems and approaches you've always known. Heather shares her own journey navigating the long-term effects of cancer treatment, hormonal changes, fatigue, and the persistent feeling that something in her body was off, leading her to seek a d...


1280: There Are Four Types Of Profit. I Bet You're Only Chasing One.
09/02/2026

"When things look successful on the outside, but they don't feel successful on the inside, that's because you're only obsessed with one type of profit."

In this episode, Heather explores the four types of profit and why financial success is only one piece of a much bigger picture. In other words, what if the life you want isn't just about making more money, having more time, or checking more boxes, but about learning how to create a life that actually feels good to live? This conversation is an invitation to rethink what you're actually building and ask...


1279: How to Build a Calendar That Supports Your Life With Megan Sumrell
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08/26/2026

"Time management is not something you're born with or born without. It's a skill that anybody can learn if they're being taught in a reasonable way."

In this episode, Heather and Megan Sumrell explore what it means to stop fighting time and start building a life that actually has room for you to live. So many of us approach planning from a place of pressure, trying to squeeze more into every available pocket of time, sacrifice sleep to catch up, or follow rigid systems that were never designed around our actual lives. But creating a calm, organized...


1278: What Every Adult Needs to Hear From the Next Generation
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08/19/2026

"Before you try to tell your kid what to do, you've got to look at yourself. You've got to really reflect on the things that you're doing."

In this episode, Heather sits down with two remarkable young adults who have been part of her life in different ways: her 21-year-old son, Logan, and Brooklyn, a longtime family friend she's had the privilege of watching grow into adulthood. Woven together with her reflections, these conversations offer an honest look at what our maturing kids are craving from the adults around them and what happens when we choose to...


1277: Inside a Psilocybin Retreat: What to Expect & How It Changes You | with Eddy Tony
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08/12/2026

"Living life from a different perspective heals the past and also paves the way for the future as well."

In this episode, Heather and Eddy Tony explore what it really means to heal, not by becoming someone new, but by integrating the parts of yourself you've spent years trying to outrun. This conversation challenges the idea that transformation comes from a single breakthrough or magic solution, inviting us to consider a gentler process of awareness, compassion, and daily practice. At its heart, this episode is an invitation to trust your own unfolding, soften into the process of...


1276: What My Three Boys [13, 16, 21] Forced Me to Stop Doing Recently
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08/05/2026

"You cannot make an impact on anybody unless you are willing to change your internal ecosystem."

In this episode, Heather challenges some of the most deeply rooted assumptions about parenting, leadership, and what it really means to prepare our children for adulthood, especially our boys. She takes an honest look at the emotional dynamics between men and women, how dependence is often learned rather than our inherent nature, and why both sons and daughters benefit when we teach responsibility, communication, and resilience instead of rescuing. At its heart, this episode is an invitation to lead with intention...


1275: What Happens When Your Soul Aligns With Your Life With Corey Colwell
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07/29/2026

"We should not be listening to things outside of us. Your body is telling you what you need."

In this episode, Heather and Corey Colwell explore what happens when life forces you to stop long enough to hear the messages your body has been trying to communicate all along. Through a remarkable story that begins with a coyote bite at two years old and winds through years of health challenges, motherhood, overachievement, and a profound near-death experience, this conversation invites you into the space where intuition, healing, and purpose converge. At its heart, this episode is about...


1274: [Life Update] I Outgrew My Pain (& It Hurt Like a B!+CH to Let It Go)
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07/22/2026

"Not everything your body is telling you is a symptom that needs to be fixed. Sometimes it's grief."

In this episode, Heather shares a deeply personal reflection on what happens when you outgrow the pain, patterns, and identities that once helped you survive but no longer support where you're going. She explores the uncomfortable process of letting go of old stories, relationships, expectations, and the versions of ourselves we've worked so hard to become. From business lessons and the cost of giving away your own authority to the grief that surfaces when your body finally feels safe...


1273: Hyper-Independence Is Keeping Women Stuck With Kelly Hubbell
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07/15/2026

"You're breaking generational patterns by having the capacity to be present with your kids because you're not snappy, angry, and frustrated."

In this episode, Heather and Kelly Hubbell challenge one of the most deeply ingrained beliefs many women carry: that doing it all is required to be a good mother. This conversation reframes asking for help as a leadership skill that allows you to reclaim your time, energy, and presence for what matters most, not as a luxury that's out of reach. They dive into the emotional resistance that comes with outsourcing, the hidden beliefs that keep...


1272: Is It Your Partner or Your Inability to Be Radically Honest?
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07/08/2026

"Both parties have to show up to the same conversation, and you have to do emotionally uncomfortable things in order to grow."

In this episode, Heather and her husband, Bryan, explore what it really takes to build a strong partnership when life, health, finances, and everyday stress begin testing the foundation beneath it. Through an honest conversation about communication, leadership, emotional responsibility, and the challenges that arise when two people are growing together, they unpack the patterns that create distance in relationships and the intentional choices that rebuild trust and connection. Whether you're navigating health challenges, raising...


1271: Why Executive Functioning Matters More Than Grades With Mike McLeod
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07/01/2026

"The only way to build executive functions is through relationships and experiences. Not worksheets, not lectures, not in the classroom."

In this episode, Heather and Mike McLeod dive into the growing conversation around ADHD, executive functioning, screen dependency, and the alarming reality of the youth mental health crisis unfolding right in front of us. This conversation challenges many of the narratives parents have been taught to accept about attention, behavior, motivation, and what children actually need to thrive. From the normalization of excessive screen use after COVID to the rise of social media pseudoscience and over-accommodation, this...


1270: When Therapy Turns Into Avoidance
06/24/2026

"There comes a time and a place when you're over intellectualizing, and you are actually trying to dig for problems. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy."

In this episode, Heather explores the uncomfortable space between knowing something needs to change and actually being willing to change it. For high-performing women, that gap is often filled with overthinking, fixing, researching, controlling, and searching for the "right" answer instead of taking the actions that will move them forward. This conversation is an invitation to stop waiting for the perfect plan, the perfect feeling, or the perfect timing and start moving. Because...


1269: The Resistance Between You and the Life You Desire With Renée Warren
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06/17/2026

"The more you face these moments of resistance, the easier it gets because you know what to expect of yourself on the other side of it."

In this episode, Heather and Renée Warren dive into the uncomfortable reality that, whether you're building a business, growing a personal brand, redefining yourself beyond motherhood, or pursuing a more aligned life, there comes a point where you have to decide whether you're willing to keep moving forward when the excitement fades and resistance takes over. Renée dives into the patterns that cause so many women to lose momentum wh...


1268: A Fed Soul Raises Motivated, Independent Adults
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06/10/2026

"If you're not willing to fail, you won't have the emotional capacity to watch your children fail."

In this episode, Heather digs into the very uncomfortable reality that many women are overmothering, overnurturing, and overcompensating in ways that steal their children's ability to become motivated and productive adults. This conversation dives into the delicate balance between nurturing and enabling, guiding and rescuing, and the courage it takes to hold your boundaries when every impulse tells you to step in. At its heart, this episode is about alignment, not as a nice idea, but as a...


1267: The Hidden Habits Disrupting Your Sleep and Hormones With Ciara Foy
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06/03/2026

"When you put the time and effort into your sleep, it really does pay a massive ROI in your life."

In this episode, Heather and Ciara Foy unpack the physical, hormonal, and emotional shifts that leave so many middle-aged women anxious, burned out, unable to sleep, and disconnected from themselves and their lives. This conversation goes far beyond sleep hygiene and hormones, exploring the deeper patterns of self-sacrifice, stress, over-functioning, and depletion that determine women's health. We talk about why sleep becomes more difficult during this stage of life, how cortisol, insulin resistance, and nervous system dysregulation...


1266: Your Teen Is Not Being Difficult; They're Being Honest
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05/27/2026

"If a child is being difficult, they're showing you their honest parts. They're showing you the parts of themselves that are struggling."

In this episode, Heather explores the friction that comes from holding responsibility for yourself and others while learning to stop controlling what was never yours to carry in the first place. This conversation moves through grief, fear, honesty, emotional regulation, and the uncomfortable but necessary work of recognizing where your children are reflecting back the very things you avoid within yourself. She talks about what it means to truly hold space for another...


1265: The Body Keeps Score and Sets Boundaries With Laura Wieck
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05/20/2026

"Embodiment is the wisdom that comes through from the state you're in."

In this episode, Heather and Laura Wieck explore what it really means to live embodied, not as another perfectionist performance, but as a practice of honesty, presence, and listening to the wisdom already alive inside you. Through the lens of parenting a child with autism and the unraveling of old identities, this conversation opens up a powerful dialogue around the ways our bodies hold emotion, where we disconnect from ourselves in the name of 'coping', and how healing often begins with simply noticing what's true...


1264: The Day My Calendar Stopped Working: Raising a Neurodivergent Kid When You're Used to Winning
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05/13/2026

"No productivity hack, no energetic management tips or tricks are going to be able to solve an identity collapse."

In this episode, Heather dives into the thing high-performing women are actually afraid to say out loud: the very traits that made them successful, performance, optimization, control, fixing, and achieving, are the exact traits that make them "worse" mothers to a neurodivergent child. And watching their playbook fail in real time triggers an identity collapse that no productivity hack or "energy management" tip can solve. The truth is, you can't outperform autism. You can't out-discipline ADHD or out-schedule...


1263: [Case Study] The Discipline of Becoming Someone You Trust With Tara Morse
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05/06/2026

"The work is never done. You just become a different version of yourself."

In this Case Study episode, Heather and Tara Morse dig into how she built her practice by following a path that didn't always make sense to others and navigating skepticism while staying anchored in what she knew was right for her. This conversation moves beyond surface-level change and into the real work: learning to shift from rumination into self-awareness, choosing how you want to feel, and taking action from that place, and developing the kind of self-trust that can only come from doing hard...


1262: Feeling Good Is Your Birthright (So Why Aren't You Living Like It?)
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04/29/2026

"When you start to feed your soul, that's like the invisible medicine that you didn't even know you needed."

The version of your life where things feel cleaner, clearer, and more aligned isn't on the other side of doing more, fixing yourself, or finally getting everything "right." It's on the other side of raising your standard for how you're willing to feel and choosing, moment by moment, to come home to yourself. In this life update, Heather shares what it actually looks like to live from that place in the way you build your systems, lead your...


1261: What Happens When Women Don't Feed Their Ambition With Alexis Dean
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04/22/2026

"When I find myself going back to that reactivity mode or older way of thinking, I have to step back and ask, 'What do I really want?'"

In this episode, Heather and Alexis Dean explore what it really means to take ownership of your ambition, your emotional world, and the desires you keep pushing aside. The things that irritate or trigger you aren't random; they're signals pointing directly to where you're being asked to grow. This conversation challenges the instinct to blame, label, or control, and instead invites you into a deeper level of self-responsibility, curiosity...


1260: The Skill Set No One Taught You That Will Determine Your Future Success
04/15/2026

"The world needs soft skills. We're now living in a time where it is no longer a privilege to learn these skills; it's a requirement."

In this episode, Heather unpacks why the people who will actually thrive aren't the ones with the most technical "hard" skills, but the ones who know how to think, feel, communicate, sell, and create at a higher level. Because in a world where information is cheap and execution is automated, your ability to regulate yourself, connect with others, and access or sell your creativity isn't just valuable, it's everything. Most people are...


1259: [Case Study] Stepping Out of Chaos as a Comfort Zone With Melissa Apa
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04/08/2026

"You see this dissonance between the current you and the past you or other people, and the only gap across the bridge is action and implementation."

There's a moment when you realize the life you're living and the life you actually want are no longer aligned, and no amount of thinking, planning, or hoping is going to close that gap for you. In this episode, Heather and Melissa Apa explore that tension as she shares what it looks like to navigate a child's diabetes diagnosis, the weight of ongoing crisis, and the secret decisions that change everything...


1258: Becoming the Buffalo: Moving Through Resistance Instead of Avoiding It
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04/01/2026

"If a buffalo is willing to go into something that it knows is going to suck, the emotionally uncomfortable storm, it knows the storm will pass faster."

In this episode, Heather gets honest about what it actually takes to move forward when you're standing at the edge of change, and every part of you wants to stall out. This conversation explores the invisible weight we carry, the addiction to consuming information instead of integrating it, and the subtle ways we create drama to avoid the decisions that would change everything. Through the lens of "becoming the buffalo,"...


1257: What Happens When You Stop Performing "Good" With Laurie Wintonick
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03/25/2026

"I don't have to fall into the drama and the nonsense and everything else, and I can take all the amazing things I'm learning and come into a new season."

For many women, being "good" means holding everything together for everyone else. But at some point, the question begins to surface: When did good enough become good enough? In this episode, Heather and Laurie Wintonick explore what it really looks like to grow into the next version of yourself without blowing up the life you've built. From letting go of guilt and redefining what it means to...


1256: How a Deeply Spiritual, Intuitive Woman Built a Multiple 7-Figure Company (Without Selling Her Soul)
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03/18/2026

"If you can own that you are the issue, then you can own that you have ownership over your calendar. You're just getting in your own way, and you're letting your brain win."

In this episode, Heather digs into the reality that burnout doesn't happen overnight. It builds over the years through the emotional weight we carry (often not even our own), the expectations we place on ourselves, and the subtle ways we abandon our own needs to keep everything else running. Heather explores why so many women find themselves stuck in cycles of exhaustion, over-responsibility, and...


1255: Buying Back Your Time to Create More Space for Intentional Joy With Christine Landis
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03/11/2026

"Having the freedom to decide this is what I choose to do now or another time, that to me is that time-rich feeling."

In this episode, Heather and Christine Landis gently (and sometimes unapologetically) challenge the way we think about productivity, responsibility, and the stories we tell ourselves about success. Together, they unpack the invisible labor so many women carry, the exhaustion of decision fatigue, and the cultural conditioning that convinces us we must do everything ourselves to be "good" partners, mothers, leaders, or humans. This isn't a conversation about outsourcing tasks for the sake of efficiency...


1254: How to Return Home to Yourself Through Energy Management and Deeper Trust
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03/04/2026

"If you just trusted people a little bit more, you would have more time, you would have more energy, and you could return home to yourself."

We live in a culture that rewards fixing, striving, and holding everything together, yet the truth is that many women are exhausted not from doing too little but from carrying too much that was never theirs to hold. In this episode, Heather explores what happens when the identity that once fueled your growth begins to limit your freedom, why trusting others can radically expand your time and energy, and how success...


1253: Marketing Your Business Without Abandoning Yourself or Wasting Money With Jess Shirra
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02/25/2026

"Marketing is required in any business, and the marketing landscape is constantly changing. You have to evolve with it."

In this episode, Heather and Jess Shirra break down what it actually looks like to evolve with the marketing landscape without burning yourself out or throwing money at strategies that don't move the needle in your unique business. This is a real conversation about the identity shift that comes with hiring a team, the weight of holding the bigger pieces alone, and why bringing in the right marketing leadership at the right time can change everything. If you've...


1252: Emotional Endurance and The Art of Not Quitting or Abandoning Yourself
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02/18/2026

"If you choose to quit and run away, you're 100% guaranteed to not get the result that you came for."

In this episode, Heather shares an honest conversation about emotional endurance, how it's not the "hustle-hard, push-through" version we've been sold, and why it's important to stay with yourself when things get uncomfortable, inconvenient, or uncertain. She unpacks why reinvention often stalls out when self-abandonment is mistaken for strength, how real lightness comes from honoring capacity rather than overriding it, and what it actually means to keep going without betraying yourself. If you've ever felt torn between wanting...


1251: Respect Over Control and Rethinking Emotional Growth for Men With Chris Cullen
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02/11/2026

"A lot of good things happen when we grab control of that space between our first in our second thought. There's a lot of gifts that come from just taking agency back over your own thoughts before you act."

What happens when we stop trying to manage emotions and start taking responsibility for the space between reaction and choice? In this episode, Heather and Chris Cullen explore a deeper, more grounded conversation about emotional regulation, gender dynamics, and why so many well-intentioned approaches to growth and healing are failing most men. They talk about respect versus control...


1250: The Decisions You Avoid Are Costing You and Shaping Your Identity
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02/04/2026

"Who you are when you have to make an emotionally uncomfortable decision says everything about how quickly you will get results."

In this episode, Heather shares a grounded, no-bypass conversation about decision-making when your nervous system is activated, clarity feels unavailable, and quitting would be easier than staying in it. She unpacks why decision fatigue isn't about doing too much, but about avoiding the decisions that actually matter, how unmade choices quietly turn into identity-level habits, and why real momentum is built by staying in motion even when outcomes, other people, or next steps are uncomfortable and...


1249: The One Thing That Changes Everything (If You Let It) With Jay Papasan
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01/28/2026

"Almost everybody will overestimate how much they can grow in one year. At the same time, they underestimate how much they can grow in five."

In this episode, Heather talks with Jay Papasan about why doing more isn't the answer, how relentless productivity can actually work against you, and what happens when you commit to the one thing that truly matters. This is a conversation about focus as a skill, boredom as a feature of mastery, and the quiet, intentional choices that make everything else easier (or unnecessary). If you're tired of spinning your wheels and ready...


1248: Designing a Life That Travels: The Real Logistics Behind Our Family's 3-Month Relocation
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01/21/2026

"What happens when you talk about the things that you want to do is people start to make connections for you. And this is exactly what happened and what has enhanced this year's experience."

In this episode, Heather explores what happens when we stop waiting for the perfect moment and start choosing courage instead. This isn't a travel highlight reel; it's a behind-the-scenes look at how Heather and her family prepared, decided, and executed the big life shift of snowbirding—without burning out their family or their bank account.

She opens up about navigating her ow...


1247: The Hidden Cost of Clutter on Your Focus, Energy, and Peace With Katy Wells
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01/14/2026

"At the end of the day, our brains are wired to crave peace and order, and our outer environments can mirror our inner environment, or vice versa."

In this episode, Heather sits down with Katy Wells to explore overconsumption and overcommitment, as well as the many forms of clutter that quietly erode our patience, focus, and presence. Many women find themselves struggling to concentrate or feeling constantly overwhelmed, which leads them to wonder, "What's wrong with me?" This conversation reveals that it's decision fatigue and unexamined accumulation pulling attention in too many directions at once, not a...