Healthcare Rap

Jared and Adam Cherrington started cooking up the idea for this episode while sitting at the back of a shuttle bus at Swaay.Health Live. The two discuss how to keep the voice of the patient a priority, where patient experience and consumer centricity overlap, and what they’re both seeing in these areas that give them hope … and frustration. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about whole-body scans. How do they work, who are the main players, and what’s their true value in a consumer’s constellation of care? 

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SiPhox Health Co-Founder and CEO Michael Dubrovsky joins Jared at Nourishing Change to discuss the future of at-home blood testing, preventative health, and how AI is transforming health analysis. They explore how accessible testing can empower individuals to live longer, healthier lives and the innovations driving this movement. 

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Dr. Payam Zamani, CEO and Founder of MY DR NOW, shares how you don’t need urgent care if you do primary care right, how outcomes improve when you make it easy for patients to be compliant, and whether he thinks patients using LLMs are good for business. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Nourishing Change conference. How did the conference’s attendee mix reflect the collaboration that needs to happen to make healthcare more preventive, and how much progress is possible if you and I join the Movement?

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Kroger Health's Jim Kirby recaps the Nourishing Change Conference's biggest year yet, highlights what stood out from sessions and exhibitors, and gives a preview of what to expect as the Movement continues into 2027 and beyond. 

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Mike Roaldi, President of Cityblock Health, discusses the economics of care delivery while working to better engage consumers, what’s behind Cityblock’s recent growth, and how patients are using ChatGPT for their health. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the new Samsung Health app features. How is Samsung positioning the upcoming Galaxy Watch as a proactive health partner, and how can we lead the charge to bridge the gap between healthcare and prevention? 

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Kristy Roldan, VP of Growth at MDRG, joins Jared to talk about the newest ways that healthcare is happening outside of hospitals, why outlier thinking is important in consumer research, and how AI is and isn’t helping us better understand consumers’ health behavior.

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Noom’s new at-home biomarker testing. How can this latest move from correction to detection impact the quickly changing direct-to-consumer preventive space, and are we witnessing the digital front door and new patient consult transform right before our eyes? 

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Shannon Werb, CEO of Array Behavioral Care, describes what the digital entry points for mental health look like today, the downsides of investing so heavily in digital access, and what it takes to make virtual mental health actually feel personalized and trustworthy for patients. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Oura and Resmed’s new partnership. How are they creating a "wearables to care" strategy, and how can health become more preventive as more consumer devices become entry points to care? 

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Lynne Nowak, Chief Data and Analytics Officer, at Surescripts, shares highlights from their research on how clinicians feel about prior authorization, her point of view on responsible AI, and how it all ties back to better experiences for patients and clinicians. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Whoop partnering with HealthEx to offer clinician access. How does this signal the move from performance wearable to health intelligence platform, and and should we offer wearables a bigger seat at the table when building the consumer constellation of care? 

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Aasim Saeed, Founder of Amenities Health, joins Jared for real talk about building in the direct to consumer health space, why he doesn't consider the current U.S. healthcare system to be patient-centric at all, and his pivot to powering health system-based concierge and premium offerings. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the new Google Health App and Fitbit Air. Do Google’s latest health products signal a battle for the consumer health operating system, and will they make good on the promise to make health and wellness personalized, preventive, and proactive? 

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Rom Cohen, Co-Founder of Hyro, talks about the state of patient communication, Hyro’s new research on the topic, and how an unsophisticated approach to AI means lots of patients don’t get treated. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Walmart’s new Clinical Trial Centers. What is the goal of the new centers, and what happens when we continue to underestimate how retail reinvents itself? 

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Wei-Li Shao returns to talk about Omada Health’s IPO, the rapidly evolving landscape of GLP-1 therapies, market complexities associated with AI-driven innovation, and what it all tells us about consumer behaviors. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week comparing funding trends from Rock Health and Fitt Insider’s latest reports. Where are checks being written for digital health, and what parallels are we seeing in the greater wellness landscape? 

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Join the celebration of reaching 500 episodes! Jared and Zain point to insights that have stood out as consumer-centric healthcare has evolved, and connect the dots for what’s coming next, from how perceptions have shifted over the years, to how preventive health has moved from the margins to the middle, what role the health tech ecosystem is playing, and what it all means for everyday people engaging in their health. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Movement of Consumer Health. What’s driving the greatest momentum that we’ve ever seen in this space...

Ron Books, CEO of Net Health, talks about how he believes that AI is the only thing that can save the human element in healthcare, examples from the wound care and rehab therapy spaces, and how Arizona is becoming a health tech hub. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the CMS Health Tech Ecosystem’s First Wave event. How significant was it to see demos from more than 50 companies that are making good on their pledge to create a fully digital, patient-centered health system, and what’s your part in helping consumers understand and trust...

Frank McGillin returns to share key lessons for digital health founders to partner with academic medical centers, curated from his time leading The Clinic by Cleveland Clinic. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Rock Health’s newly minted research on consumers’ use of AI chatbots. How quickly are health-related AI searches growing, and what actions tend to come next? 

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Live from ViVE '26, we wrap up our coverage from Las Vegas with a full lineup of health IT and health tech thought leaders on solving some of healthcare’s legacy data challenges with emerging tech. 

Anurag Mehta, CEO and Co-Founder of Omega Healthcare, cuts through the challenges of having too many tools in revenue cycle and not enough clarity on what actually works.

Shawn Fichter, CEO of Legacy Data Access, describes how to reframe the way that we collect more data than ever … and then make clinicians hunt for it.

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Reza Amin, CEO of Bastion Health, talks about founding the first nationwide virtual men’s health clinic, access gaps that may surprise you, and the scope of outcomes that can be improved when more men are willing to be part of the health conversation. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the launch of Perplexity Health. How is Perplexity staking its claim to being the most trusted AI engine for health answers, and how can we make an unbiased effort to evaluate new health AI tools from the consumer's point of view? 

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Live from the Healthcare Now Radio studio at HIMSS, Jared speaks with Ryan Howells, Principal at Leavitt Partners. Ryan recaps a series of recent announcement from CMS about their Health Tech Ecosystem, what’s coming next, and why it’s significant for anyone paying attention to the consumer experience space. 

All that, plus our newest shout out to consumer and retail brands working in healthcare. 

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Andy Grove, Founder of Pose Fitness, talks about how the need to cut through the hype in the fitness industry, where clinicians turn for fitness data, and the impact of exiting the Comfort Phase of Humanity. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Google Health’s Checkup event. What did their Chief Medical Officer announce during the livestream, and how might it contribute to the democratization of personal health insights? 

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Live from ViVE '26, we wrap up our coverage from Los Angeles with a full lineup of health IT and health tech thought leaders. John Kirkman, VP of Government, Healthcare, and Education at Island, shares how the AI conversation is becoming more operational. Charlie Harp, CEO and Founder of Clinical Architecture, encourages health data suppliers to get out there and improve the quality of their data.

Dr. Nancy Cibotti, CMIO at Heidi Health, discusses how the company has hit the ground running in 2026. Ovatient CEO and Founder Michael Dalton discussed trends in self-pay and virtual first care...

What will it take for ChatGPT, Claude, Copilot and others to adopt industry standards that preserve consumer safety? Aaron Patzer, Founder of Vital and Mint.com, dives deep into the need for a standard in patient-facing health AI, the effects of not having one, and his advice for consumers when using AI applications to answer health questions. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Microsoft launching Copilot Health last week. How are Big Tech's investments in healthcare AI platforms changing the game for patients and providers, as well as showing us the need for guardrails a...

Live from ViVE '26, John Beadle, Managing Partner and Co-Founder of Aegis Ventures, helps Jared understand the economics of consumer-driven health. Jon discusses the shift to consumer health through the eyes of an investor, where the money’s going in 2026, and how several solutions in the Aegis portfolio are reframing what "patient-centric" really means. 

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Dr. Wendy Sue Swanson offers an inside look at her journey founding Skinmetal, why she believes that for-profit consumer product companies CAN be public health entities, and what has and hasn’t changed since her days as an early pioneer of social media in medicine. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the launch of Lilly Employer Connect. Is the platform a signal that the direct-to-employer space is heating up for preventive care, and will it ultimately give consumers better priced access to name-brand obesity treatments? 

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Live from ViVE '26, Jared speaks with Muse Capital Co-Founder and General Partner Rachel Springate about the economics of consumer health, how she evaluates investment opportunities, and her top advice for founders building in the space, then they celebrate how far Muse has come in 10 years by overcoming historic funding gaps for women’s health. 

All that, plus our newest shout-out to venture capital firms working in consumer health. 

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Dr. Josh Umbehr, Founder of Atlas.MD, shares the financial benefits of direct primary care to both patients and providers, how Atlas’ insurance product works, and why he believes healthcare should be too inexpensive to insure in the first place. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Nourish offerings free lab work. What’s behind them now integrating lab work into their digital nutrition services, and is this a signal of where preventive care is headed? 

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Stephen Rouse shares the gap in the market that led him to found Savva AI, why screenings play such a large role in engagement, and what’s possible when you unleash AI on your medical records. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Garmin’s meal tracking feature. What can we learn from the way that meal tracking has evolved, and why is it now considered an essential feature of wellness apps? 

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Frequent contributor Paul Schrimpf returns to highlight trends he’s uncovering between workforce reconfiguration, primary care, and the "platformification" of care delivery. 

Healthcare has to get better at connecting the dots. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Amazon One Medical’s first partnership in the at-home preventive screening space. How is their newly announced partnership with Reperio Health a signal of growth for preventive care, and what attributes of their solution can appeal to the masses? 

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Dr. Michael Botta, President and Co-founder of Sesame, shares details of their newly announced partnership to offer the Wegovy pill, their continued relationship with Costco, how their clinicians approach patients who are loading their medical records to ChatGPT, and more insights from the quickly expanding cash pay side of healthcare. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the health at home waiver being extended for five more years. Now that these programs have the certainty they’ve been fighting for, how can we advocate for the innovations that leaders have been asking for all along? 

Ro Huntriss, Chief Nutrition Officer for Simple Life, shares how their AI weight loss coach complements clinical care, what they’ve learned about driving personal health behaviors, and why they continue to see success across every age group, gender, and BMI class. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about CVS’ intention to launch a new consumer engagement app. How do they describe the platform they’re building and its benefits, and does this signal a renewed interest in consumer engagement as a top priority? 

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Dr. Momo Vuyisich, cofounder of Viome, shares how the concept of systems biology helps us understand prevention, how chronic disease and cancer start years before any symptoms emerge, and where precision health is making some pretty incredible new strides. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Amazon One Medical’s new Health AI agent. How does this tool stack up against ChatGPT and Claude’s latest healthcare tools, and what does it signal to us to have a third major consumer health AI announcement in the last two weeks? 

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Dr. Heidi Jannenga, co-founder and chief clinical officer at WebPT, shares lessons and trends from the forefront of outpatient rehab therapy, including the latest AI-based clinical decision support tools, successes from digitizing home exercise programs, and the shift back to clinician-centered models. 

All that, plus our latest Shout Out to those working on digital front doors. 

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The founders of Forevity Health, Taylor Wright and Josh Hall, discuss their mission to make preventive health more obtainable, the evolution of health coaching and longevity, and what they’re learning about consumer health behaviors that might surprise you. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the launch of Claude for Healthcare. As the counterpart to ChatGPT’s announcement just days prior, how is Anthropic’s tool positioning itself to help health consumers, and what should we be paying attention to as the GenAI healthcare wars are at a fever pitch? 

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New wearables and connected personal health devices dominated the digital health hall at CES '26. Jared gives you a tour of what caught his eye, including news from Bhuvan Srinivasan, Chief Business Officer at Ultrahuman, Bruno Carriel, Head of Product Development at Withings, and Jonathon Baggia, Global Marketing Manager for Renpho. 

All that, plus our Shout Out to listeners in the GLP-1 space. 

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OnMed CEO Karthik Ganesh joins Alan Washington, President and CEO of 22Beacon, and Earl Martin Phalen, Founder and CEO of Phalen Leadership Academies, for an inspiring exploration of the connection between healthcare access, academic performance, and success in life. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the announcement of ChatGPT Health. Why is the consumer point of view underrepresented in how the provider community is responding, and why is it important to lead with optimism as we learn how it works? 

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Praia Health CEO Justin Dearborn and VP of Strategy & Operations Doug Grapski discuss the greatest opportunities for health systems to lead out in orchestrating consumer experiences. Don't know what that means? Doug describes it at a 3rd-grade level. 

All that, plus a rapid fire round and the first of our new Shout Out segments. 

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Dr. Farzad Mostashari, Co-Founder and CEO of Aledade, shares how they prevented 267,000 hospital and ED visits in 2024, other real results for value-based care, and why blood pressure control is one of his favorite KPIs. 

All that, plus the the Flava of the Week about the Rap Remix in ’26. Why does our show keep evolving, and how do we hope our new Rap intro encourages you to champion the consumer POV? 

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Jared and Zain wrap up 2025 and the annual Predictions Series with O.G. guest co-host James Gardner. They keep themselves accountable to last year’s predictions and share seven new trends they're watching heading into 2026. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the two opposing perspectives of digital health. How did Ryan Howells recently describe the dichotomy of digital health’s current state, and how can we join the side that feels optimistic and energized by the work that’s being done? 

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The annual Predictions Series continues with popular returning guests Jane Sarasohn-Kahn and Amy Heymans sharing where they see consumer health heading in the coming months and years, including some pretty big trends that may surprise you.

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about CMS’ new ACCESS model. What chronic conditions is it targeting, and could this be a pivotal moment for digital health? 

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Our annual Predictions Series kicks off with Ryan Howells, Principal at Leavitt Partners, and Kristen Valdes, Founder and CEO of b.well Connected Health, as they have fun and offer predictions about consumer health in 2026 and beyond. Stay tuned as they share a vision of how today’s health IT policies and investments can make tomorrow’s consumer-centered ecosystem a reality. Spoiler alert: it’s about implementing open standards. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about CMS’ health tech ecosystem. What progress did their latest health tech event represent, and how important is the vision of interop...

Scott Schuster and Therese Lockemy join Jared for his latest candid conversation about careers and leadership at the intersection of healthcare, marketing, and technology. Even in one of the industry’s most challenging times, they find encouragement and acknowledgement while getting very real about how to navigate unexpected twists and turns. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about GoodRx disrupting the GLP-1 marketplace. What could be the ripple effects of their new low-price offerings on consumer health behaviors, and where else might GoodRx take their formula of telehealth and discount prescriptions? 

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Jim Murray, Managing Director of the BDO Center for Healthcare Excellence and Innovation, shares how leaders can balance the excitement of AI innovation with the discipline of proper planning, how he helps organizations decide where to invest first, and why adoption might be the only metric that really matters. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Pharma Direct-To-Patient (DTP) trend. Where are Pharma giants placing their bets, and how aggressively are they pushing to own more of the consumer relationship? 

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