Running Reconnected with Dr. Angie and Kevin Brown

Most runners with a sore back fall into one of two groups, and both are stuck. One group decides it's just aging and pushes through. The other rests and plays it safe, afraid of making things worse. Neither group has a plan.

In this episode, I break down six of the most common myths I hear from runners about back pain, what the research says about each one, and what to do instead. A lot of what I cover applies to other kinds of pain too, like hip, knee, or ankle pain.

This episode is...

When it comes to running, more isn't always better. At some point, adding more miles, intensity, or strength training can stop helping and start working against you.

In this episode, Kevin and I discuss the law of diminishing returns and how it affects running performance, recovery, and race preparation. We share lessons from our daughter's intensive PSAT prep and explain why, just like studying for a big test, there comes a point when you need to trust the work you've already done instead of trying to squeeze in more.

We also discuss professional marathoner Vinny...

Pain and injury can be incredibly frustrating as a runner, especially when it feels like the pain came out of nowhere. In this episode, I’m sharing the three-part framework I’ve used throughout my 20 years as a physical therapist to understand pain and determine what to do next: Evaluate, Assess, and Treat.

We’ll look beyond the painful body part and consider the bigger picture, including training load, mobility, strength, sleep, stress, fueling, hormones, and previous injuries. I’ll also walk you through how I decide when to modify running, how much pain may be okay during r...

What do you think would happen if you completely ruptured your Achilles tendon with two kilometers left in a marathon? Most of us would probably assume the race was over. But Tigst Assefa’s 2026 Berlin Marathon story forces us to ask a much more interesting question: how could someone experience a significant injury and still keep running at an incredibly fast pace? Assefa developed pain around 31K, eventually completely ruptured her Achilles around 40K, and still finished the race, won, and set a course record. That doesn’t mean she somehow didn’t have an injury or that pain is “al...

If you’ve been told that women in perimenopause or post-menopause should stop doing easy, steady-state cardio and replace it with HIIT, sprinting, and heavy lifting, this episode is for you. Angie and Kevin continue their Running Myth series by unpacking where this idea came from, what HIIT actually does well, and why replacing your easy running with high-intensity training misses a much bigger picture.

The problem isn’t that HIIT is bad. In fact, Angie and Kevin talk about plenty of reasons to include higher-intensity work in a well-rounded training program. HIIT can be a time-efficient way...

If you're a woman in perimenopause or postmenopause, you've probably seen the claim that running is bad for your hormones because it raises cortisol. Maybe you've even wondered if you should be doing less cardio, switching entirely to walking, or giving up running altogether.

In this episode, Kevin and I unpack that idea and talk about what cortisol actually does in the body. Yes, exercise temporarily raises cortisol, but that's a normal and useful response. The bigger issue is chronic stress, poor sleep, under-fueling, and inadequate recovery. And while menopause can change how our bodies respond to...

Have you ever looked at your schedule and thought, “I only have 20 minutes, so it’s not even worth running”? I get it. As runners, we can easily fall into the trap of believing that a run only counts if it’s long enough, fast enough, or fits perfectly into our training plan. But in this episode, Kevin and I are kicking off a new series where we bust some of those common running myths, starting with the idea that short runs aren't worth it.

I actually got a real-life reminder of this when a few short 20-minute...

What if you stopped asking, “Do you think I can do this?” and started asking, “Who do I need to become to do this?” That’s the conversation Kevin and I are having in this episode. We’re talking about how we are all constantly becoming, whether we’re intentional about it or not. Our circumstances, past experiences, injuries, relationships, and even the opinions of other people can quietly shape who we believe we are and what we think is possible.

I want to help you start looking at your running and your life differently. You don’t have to wait u...

In this episode, I’m introducing the newly rebranded Running Reconnected Podcast, formerly Real Life Runners. The name reflects what I’ve always loved about this work: helping runners reconnect with their bodies, understand what their bodies are telling them, and recognize how running connects to the rest of their lives.

I also share a surprisingly useful lesson from learning to make sourdough with my daughter. Building a starter took patience, consistency, and a willingness to trust the process even when it looked like nothing was happening. Running is the same way. Sometimes the most important progress is h...

What happens when something you’ve always used to define yourself suddenly disappears? In this episode, Angie talks with Heather Lacey about identity, running, career changes, injury, and the uncomfortable process of figuring out who you are when a familiar title no longer fits.

Heather spent 20 years as a healthcare executive before being laid off. Running became an important coping tool during that transition, but she eventually realized she had transferred the same achievement-driven identity into running. From chasing career titles to chasing PRs, Heather shares what she learned about going all in, the pressure to prove yo...

What story are you telling yourself before you even get to the starting line?

In this episode, Angie and Kevin talk about pre-race anxiety, the stories we create around hard runs, and how those stories can influence both our experience and our physiology. They explore how negativity and confirmation bias can cause us to look for evidence that a run is going badly before it even starts.

They also dive into research connecting pre-race anxiety and mood disturbance with changes in immune response after a marathon. Most importantly, this conversation isn't about pretending everything will...

Breathing is something we do every moment of every day, yet most runners never give it a second thought. If you've ever found yourself gasping for air during an easy run, battling a painful side stitch, or wondering whether you're "supposed" to breathe through your nose, this episode is for you.

In this conversation, Angie and Kevin explore why breathing is one of the most overlooked skills in running—and one that can have a surprisingly big impact on how your runs feel. They explain why breathing isn't about chasing perfection or overthinking every inhale and exhale. In...

When most runners think about strength training, they immediately picture squats, lunges, and deadlifts. After all, running is a leg sport... right?

Not exactly.

In this episode, Kevin and I are breaking down one of the biggest misconceptions in running: that your upper body doesn't matter. I'm sharing why building strength in your shoulders, back, chest, and core can actually help you run more efficiently, maintain better posture, breathe easier, and reduce unnecessary stress on your lower back. If you've skipped upper body training because you thought it wasn't important or worried it would make...

Crewing an ultramarathon is so much more than handing someone water and cheering from the sidelines. Over the past few years of crewing Kevin through multiple 100-mile races, I've learned that my role isn't just to support him. It's to help him get to the finish line. That mindset completely changed the way I approach race day. In this episode, I share the lessons I've learned, the mistakes I've made, and the systems we've developed that have made every race smoother than the last.

Kevin also shares what it's like from the runner's perspective and what actually...

Have you ever looked at an ultramarathon and thought, There's no way I could ever do that? If so, you're not alone.

In this episode, Kevin and I are kicking off a new series all about ultrarunning, and we're starting with the biggest question of all: Why would anyone want to run an ultra in the first place? More importantly, how do you know if it's the right challenge for you?

This conversation isn't just about logging more miles. It's about becoming the kind of person who's willing to embrace a big goal, trust the...

A few weeks ago, Kevin hurt his back during a strength session. Like many runners, his first instinct was to figure it out on his own. He stretched, modified his training, waited for it to improve, and hoped time would take care of it. Instead, everyday activities became painful, and even short runs felt nearly impossible. But after finally asking for help, everything changed. Within days he was running again, within two weeks he was essentially pain-free, and less than three weeks later he completed a 14-mile run.

In this episode, Angie pulls back the curtain on...

Every year, the Western States 100 captures the attention of the ultrarunning world. It's a race filled with incredible performances, heartbreaking setbacks, unforgettable comebacks, and stories of grit that go far beyond who crosses the finish line first.

But you don't have to run 100 miles (or even want to!) to learn from it.

In this episode, Kevin shares some of the biggest stories from this year's race, including course records, first-time champions, and legendary runners who didn't finish. Together, we explore what these moments reveal about running, resilience, and ourselves. Whether you're training for your first 5...

In this episode, we revisit our recent conversation about asking for help—including Kevin’s week of dealing with back pain and uncover what we believe is often the real thing holding most runners back: ego. Not the loud, boastful kind, but the quieter version that shows up as perfectionism, independence, caution, or the fear of looking like we don’t have it all figured out.

We share a simple framework for recognizing how ego can stop us from starting, succeeding, and learning. Along the way, we talk about hesitating to sign up for races, resist...

In this episode, we’re sharing a very personal story from our own lives. Last week, Kevin hurt his back during a strength workout, and even though I am a physical therapist, he never clearly asked for help. I, on the other hand, didn’t want to jump in with unsolicited advice. The result? A week of unnecessary pain, missed training, poor sleep, frustration, and a whole lot of miscommunication.

That experience made us realize just how hard it can be to ask for help—even from the people we trust most.

We dive i...

With so many supplements marketed to runners, it's easy to wonder what's actually worth taking. In this episode, we cut through the noise and focus on a few supplements that have strong research behind them—while emphasizing that no supplement can replace consistent training, good nutrition, quality sleep, and proper recovery.

We break down the Three Cs: Carbohydrates, Creatine, and Caffeine.

First, we discuss why many runners are underfueling and how carbohydrates play a critical role in performance, recovery, and endurance. Next, we explore creatine monohydrate, one of the most researched supplements available, and its be...

Have you ever found yourself wondering if you're doing enough?

Should you be tracking your sleep more closely? Monitoring your glucose? Taking more supplements? Investing in another recovery tool? Finding one more way to optimize your health and performance?

In today's world, it's easy to feel like there is always another metric to improve, another score to chase, and another strategy promising better results.

In this episode, Kevin and I take a closer look at what happens when the pursuit of optimization starts working against us.

We explore the rise of...

It Doesn’t Look Like Anything Yet: What Building a Vanity Teaches Us About Training

Have you ever been in the middle of building something and thought, How is this ever going to come together? That’s exactly what happened when Kevin and I spent three hours putting together our 13-year-old daughter’s new vanity. Somewhere between scattered parts, a cracked panel, and a backwards drawer track, I realized… this feels a lot like training.

In this episode, we share why building a strong runner isn’t about one workout or one great week. It’s...

Let It Be Enough: Escaping the Comparison Trap in Running and Life

In episode 462 of the Real Life Runners podcast, we dive into the comparison trap and how easily runners can fall into measuring themselves against others—or even against past versions of themselves. Whether it’s pace, fitness, race results, or life circumstances, comparison often steals joy and makes us feel like what we’re doing isn’t enough.

We start by discussing the Cocodona 250 and Rachel Entrekin’s incredible overall win and course record, along with the conversations it sparked around how accomp...

Have your runs been feeling harder lately… even when your training hasn’t changed?

Maybe your legs feel heavy for no obvious reason. Your motivation disappears by the end of the day. Easy runs suddenly feel exhausting. Or you find yourself overthinking every workout, nutrition choice, and race decision until your brain feels completely fried.

In this episode of the Real Life Runners Podcast, Angie and Kevin unpack two major factors that runners often overlook: stress overload and decision fatigue.

Because here’s the truth: your body doesn’t separate training stress from life str...

Progressive Overload for Runners Over 40

Build strength, mileage, and speed—without breaking down

Progressive overload isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing just enough to create adaptation.

In this episode, we break down how to train smarter as a runner over 40 by working with your body (not against it). We cover the stress → recovery → adaptation cycle and why recovery becomes even more important with age, hormones, and life stress.

You’ll learn how to use the 3 key training dials:

…and why adjusting one at a time is the key...

In this episode, we talk about how breakthroughs like the recent sub-two-hour marathon moment shift what we believe is possible—and why those shifts matter for every runner, not just elites.

We explore how past milestones like the four-minute mile and Kipchoge’s sub-two-hour attempt show that limits are often more mental than physical, shaped by what we’ve seen and experienced.

We also dig into why your brain naturally tries to keep goals “safe,” and how that can quietly shrink what you believe you’re capable of.

Then we break down three practical wa...

If you’ve ever finished a run feeling drained, ravenous, or wondering why your body isn’t responding the way you want it to… this episode is for you.

We’re taking a page from our rescue dog Jasper—who eats everything—to highlight how many runners fuel in ways that don’t actually support their training. 

And we’re not talking about cutting things out or going on another diet. It’s the opposite actually.

A lot of runners are training like athletes… but eating like dieters. And that disconnect? It’s costing you.

This...

Ever feel like no matter what you do in your running… it’s never quite enough?

In this episode, we’re unpacking the difference between healthy growth and the kind of chronic self-pressure that so many runners are quietly carrying. We see it all the time—constantly moving the goalpost, comparing yourself to others (or a younger or more “ideal” version of you), adding more to the plan even when your body is asking for less… and still feeling behind.

We talk about how this pressure can start to shape your entire experience as a runner. Your r...

In this episode, we’re unpacking the paradox behind the advice of “Just do it before you’re ready”. Because yes—taking action before you feel fully ready can be powerful. It helps you move through hesitation, build momentum, and start building the confidence you’ve been waiting for. Whether it’s getting back into running, starting strength training, signing up for a race, or making a big life decision… sometimes you do just need to go.

But here’s where we see people get tripped up—and honestly, where a lot of runners end up frustrated or hurt.

Doing...

We hear it all the time: “choose your hard.” But here’s the truth—not all “hard” is created equal.

In this episode, I break down the difference between aligned hard (the kind that builds you) and misaligned hard (the kind that leads to burnout, injury, and disconnection). Because constantly pushing isn’t discipline—it’s often your body being ignored.

Aligned hard looks like showing up when you don’t feel like it, staying consistent, and being patient.

Misaligned hard looks like pushing through exhaustion, running hard every day, or ignoring pain.

We also reframe...

In this episode, we share a real-life story about our dog coming back from the backyard completely covered in sticky weeds—and how it’s the perfect analogy for what so many runners are experiencing.

So often, we think progress comes from doing more—more miles, more strength, more data, more plans. But in reality, it’s the weeds—the things that don’t belong—that are quietly holding you back.

We define weeds as anything that drains your time, energy, recovery, or mental bandwidth. They tend to creep in unnoticed and spread over time—especially when...

Have you ever felt the urge to switch plans, apps, races, or gear—thinking something new will finally move you forward?

In this episode, I’m talking about shiny object syndrome and how it quietly keeps runners stuck. I share a personal example from our business where we changed platforms to “fix” a problem, only to realize later that we didn’t need something new—we just needed to go deeper with what we already had.

It’s the same in running. Many runners jump from plan to plan after a tough race or when things start t...

Ever feel tired and wonder what to do about it? With the recent shift from daylight saving time, a lot of runners are feeling the effects of disrupted sleep—and that small change can actually increase fatigue, slow reaction time, and even raise injury risk.

That’s why we wanted to walk through how we think about fatigue as coaches and runners ourselves.

One of the biggest things we see is that not all fatigue is the same, and learning to recognize the difference can help you make better decisions about your training.

We b...

Last week we introduced the Three I’s of change: information (knowing), implementation (doing), and integration (becoming).

But this week, I realized something was missing.

In this episode, I expand the model into the 4-I Framework by adding the most important piece: intention.

Because here’s what we see all the time — runners have plenty of information. You know easy runs should feel like a 2–3/10. You know strength training prevents injury. You know consistency matters.

But knowing isn’t the problem.

The missing link is intention — your direction, your chosen outco...

You likely know what to do.

Strength train.
Eat more protein.

Fuel with carbs.
Run easy.
Sleep more.

So why is it still so hard to actually do those things consistently?

In this episode, we dive into the real reason knowledge alone doesn’t create change — and why lasting progress happens when habits become part of who you are, not just something you try to check off a list.

We break down the three stages every runner moves through:

Information — learning what works and feelin...

If running has started to feel harder after 40—more aches and pains, lingering tightness, slower paces, low energy, or frustrating injuries—you’re not alone. In this episode, I’m breaking down the 3 essential pieces of a strong running foundation and why so many runners skip them (even the ones who are “doing all the right things”).

You’ll learn why running alone doesn’t build the foundation you need, why stretching isn’t the answer most runners think it is, and how to train in a way that helps your body feel better, move better, and run stronger—witho...

The winter olympics have returned, and if you’ve been listening to our podcast for awhile, you know we love the Olympics!

The grit. The perseverance. The stories. 

Unless you’ve been living under a rock this week, you’ve probably heard of Lindsey Vonn’s comeback.

After devastating injuries and stepping away from professional skiing for several years (her last Olympics was 8 years ago), she chose to come back…at the age of 41.

And not because it was guaranteed to end with a podium.

But because she still had somethi...

In this solo episode, I’m taking some time to pause, reflect, and look back on 45 years of life, growth, and learning—both on and off the run. I’m sharing the lessons that have shaped me as a runner, a coach, and a human, and the shifts that continue to guide how I show up today.

I talk about how my relationship with health and fitness has evolved over the years—from wanting to be skinny to wanting to be strong, from restriction to truly fueling my body, and from chasing outcomes to learning how to enjoy th...

Fear doesn’t always look obvious. Sometimes it shows up as overthinking, second-guessing, or feeling stuck and unsure of your next move. In this episode, we talk about what it really means to choose faith over fear — not just in running, but in everyday life.

Inspired by a meaningful Christmas gift with the words “Faith Over Fear,” this conversation dives into how fear can quietly impact training, consistency, and confidence. We share personal stories and coaching insights on how fear often tries to pull us out of alignment with who we are and who we’re becoming.

You’l...

In this episode, we share an honest recap of Kevin’s experience at the Long Haul 100. We dive into the emotional highs and lows of race day, the challenges Kevin faced along the way, and the mix of pride and disappointment that comes with tackling a 100-mile race.

We also talk about what mattered most in the buildup and during the race—strength training, mobility, fueling, mindset, and the power of having a supportive crew. Kevin reflects on the lessons learned and how this experience will shape his future training and racing.

This is a real...