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US National Team Coach: She Left Stanford to Fix What Swimming Won't Talk About
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Former Stanford swim coach Tracy Slusser joins Social Kick to discuss her career pivot from coaching Olympic athletes like Katie Ledecky to launching a leadership coaching business for coaches.
She opens up about women in coaching, parental leave in sports, work-life balance on the pool deck, and her push for policy changes to support coaches navigating family and career at the NCAA and national team level.
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College Swimming League CEO Breaks Down: Prize Money, New Meet Format & Launch Day Fears
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The College Swimming League CEO joins us to break down the prize money, broadcast deals, and the format for the 2026 launch.
We are looking at the specifics of the new College Swimming League. With 12 teams competing across 8 meets, this setup is built specifically for television audiences rather than traditional timing.
The league has already locked in a major swimming broadcast partnership with ESPN and DAZN to bring t...
He Ripped 3 Tech Suits Before His Olympic Semifinal (Absolute Chaos)
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Chris Guiliano returns to Social Kick to recap his Pan Pacs season, discuss adapting to training in Austin, and answer audience questions about the gallop stroke, sprinter warmups, tech suits, and more.
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How a PanPac Champion Bounced Back From a Concussion to Win Nationals
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PanPac champion McKenzie Siroky joins Social Kick to break down her breakout season, U.S. Nationals win, and rise in the 50 and 100 breaststroke.
We talk swimming tips, swimming technique, swim drills, swimming practice, nutrition, and how to swim faster.
Plus, McKenzie shares her journey from hockey to competitive swimming and her approach to becoming a better swimmer.
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...IU's Head Sprint Coach: Breaking Records by Training Less Than Everyone Else
Episode 313 of The Social Kick Podcast features Indiana University sprint coach John Long! Fresh off a historic season where the IU men scored massive points at NCAAs and the women shattered relay records, Coach Long joins Bryan Lundquist and Dr. John Mullen.
From transitioning through the legendary coaching trees of Auburn (Marsh, Quick, Hawke) to implementing ultra-low volume sprint blocks, experimenting with Kaatsu training, underwater cameras, and the upcoming College Swim League (CSL) innovations, John breaks down the modern evolution of collegiate sprint training.
Rowan Cox: Breaking NAG Records & Training at Texas | Episode 312
Episode 312 of The Social Kick Podcast features rising swimming sensation Rowan Cox! Fresh off an incredible performance at US Nationals where he dropped two seconds in the 100 fly to clock a blistering 50.6—finishing third behind Caleb Dressel and Ilya Kharun and breaking Thomas Heilman's National Age Group (NAG) record—Rowan joins Dr. John Mullen and Bryan Lundquist.
From adjusting to Bob Bowman’s intense training groups at UT (including surviving the infamous lifeguard-warning underwater sets), discovering Chad le Clos randomly at Barton Springs, sharing hilarious summer league memories with Beyblades and ice cream dibs, to balancing a deep a...
Chad le Clos’s Epic Swimming Career | Social Kick Ep. 311
Episode 311 of The Social Kick Podcast features swimming icon and legend Chad le Clos. Fresh off an incredible performance at the Commonwealth Games—where he made history by becoming the most decorated athlete in the games' history—Chad joins the full crew to talk about his storied career, current mindset, and what keeps him driven in the sport.
From overcoming physical adversity and injury, finding a renewed love for racing, and preparing for the short course season all the way to LA 2028, Chad opens up about the highs and lows of elite swimming, working with coach Delon Danh...
João Mescolote: Behind the Scenes on a 6,500-Mile Swim Tour | Episode 310
Episode 310 of The Social Kick Podcast features friend of the show, content creator, and elite swim coach João Mescolote. Fresh off an incredible 6,500-mile road trip visiting top college swimming and club programs across the country, João sits down with the full crew to share what he learned about the modern landscape of swimming.
From the shifting dynamics of NCAA coaching and the evolution of swim physiology to growing up as a sprinter in Brazil, his time at LSU, post-swimming bodybuilding, and finding a lifelong passion for coaching, this episode is packed with insights for co...
Kurt Mills Hanson on Swimming Commentary, Tennis-Style Majors, and Bold Solutions to Fix Swimming. Ep 309
Elite swimming analyst and commentator Kurt Mills Hanson joins the Social Kick podcast for episode 309 to drop unfiltered opinions on everything from the golden era of Australian broadcasting and the politics of World Aquatics to radical ideas for saving the sport.
Join hosts Bryan Lundquist and Dr. John Mullen as Kurt shares behind-the-scenes stories of crafting hard-copy media guides before the internet, navigating massive industry backlash for his involvement with the Enhanced Games, and debating the future of professional swimming.
Dive into high-level discussions on why swimming needs a tennis-style major circuit, eliminating country quotas...
Anna Moesch: The Massive Training Changes Behind Her Record-Breaking Freestyle Surge: Episode 308
Elite swimmer Anna Moesch returns to the Social Kick podcast for episode 308 to break down her massive athletic leap over the past year, including winning an NCAA title in the 200 free and clocking a blistering 51-second 100 free.
Join hosts Bryan Lundquist and John Mullen as they dive into Anna's behind-the-scenes training journey. Discover how she handles brutal altitude training blocks at the Olympic Training Center, incorporates high-aerobic volume to conquer late-race pain, and utilizes specific stroke and power rack drills to unlock elite front-end speed.
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From Fiji to 18 Seconds: ASU's Tolu Young on "Ultra Sprint" & The McEvoy Method | Episode 306
How does a former 800 freestyler from Fiji become an 18-second 50 freestyler in one of the fastest sprint environments in the NCAA? In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, Arizona State University's Tolu Young shares his incredible journey from the "no rush, no worries" island culture of Fiji to the highly competitive, smack-talking pool deck at ASU. T
olu breaks down his unexpected transition from a self-proclaimed terrible distance swimmer into a pure 50 freestyler after moving to Washington State during the 2020 lockdowns. We dive deep into the cutting edge of sprint training as Tolu explains his role...
Liberty Clark: How 4-Day-a-Week Training Built a 1:39 200 Freestyler | Episode 305
How does a multi-sport athlete who trained in the pool just 2 to 4 times a week become one of the fastest freestylers in the NCAA? In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, we sit down with Indiana University sensation Liberty Clark to unpack her wildly unique path to swimming stardom.
Growing up in Chico, California, Liberty balanced club volleyball, judo, and soccer with a low-yardage summer league swimming approach. She breaks down the massive culture shock of moving to IU, where she went from swimming 3,000-yard maximum practices to surviving 5,000-meter long course conditioning sets (and yes...
Sam Short on Sweeping the Distance Freestyles, World Record Pacing & Nutrition | Episode 304
Australia’s distance freestyle king has returned! Fresh off a historic performance at the 2026 Australian Trials—where he became the first man since Grant Hackett to sweep the 200m, 400m, 800m, and 1500m Freestyles—Samuel Short joins the Social Kick Podcast to break down exactly how he did it.
In this episode, Sam takes us behind the scenes of his elite training block. From brutal high-altitude camps in Flagstaff to managing his sleep and body composition with Oura Rings and dietitians, Sam leaves no stone unturned. He details exactly what he eats in a day to survive massiv...
Grant House on NIL, Enhanced Games & the Future of Swimming | Episode 303
In this episode of Social Kick, we are joined by the "Father of NIL," Grant House! As the lead plaintiff in the landmark House v. NCAA case, Grant completely changed the landscape of college sports. But he’s not stopping there. Grant is now focused on educating athletes, speaking at universities across the country, and developing his own performance consulting business. We discuss the evolving world of NIL, exploring what brands are actually looking for from Olympic athletes and how swimmers can better monetize their careers.
Grant shares his experience attending Athlete Con in Las Vegas and th...
The Secret to Josh Matheny's Breaststroke (And Why He Breathes Like That!) | Episode 302
Is Josh Matheny the happiest guy in professional swimming? We caught up with the rising USA breaststroke star after meeting him at the Beyond the Blocks Clinic in Ohio, and he did not disappoint!
In this episode of the Social Kick, Josh discusses his unique breaststroke technique—specifically answering the question everyone asks: Why does he open his mouth so wide when he breathes? Josh also opens up about his training philosophy at Indiana University, how he manages the brutal 200m Breaststroke, and the mental battles of breaking through times when you're stuck on a plateau. We al...
Van Mathias on Sprint Swimming, Heavy Lifting & Balancing a Full-Time Job | Episode 301
How does a 200 Butterfly and IM swimmer completely reinvent himself to become the American Record holder in the 50 Breaststroke? In this episode of Social Kick, we sit down with sprint powerhouse Van Mathias to discuss his incredible and unconventional swimming journey.
Van breaks down how stepping away from the pool to focus on heavy lifting (and bulking up to 235 lbs!) ultimately laid the foundation for his explosive sprint speed. We discuss his current training regimen at Indiana University, which defies traditional swimming volume.
Van reveals how he hits career-best times on just 8,000 to 10,000 yards a...
Anna Peplowski on Pro Swimmer Salaries, The 200 Free Boom & LA 2028 | Episode 300
What does it actually take to make a living as a professional swimmer? Olympic Silver Medalist and NCAA Champion Anna Peplowski joins Social Kick to pull back the curtain on pro swimming finances, her transition out of NCAA competition, and her road to the LA 2028 Olympics.
Anna breaks down the exact numbers behind her professional career, including the $3,750 monthly stipend from USA Swimming, the $15,000 athlete donor program, and how she navigates brand deals with companies like Jersey Mike's, Science in Sport, and DripDrop. She also shares how living on $650/month rent in Indiana helps her budget for...
Underwater Masterclass & Beyond: Tom Shields on Clinics, Surfing, and Mental Health | Episode 299
Is he the best underwater kicker of all time? We think so—and so does Coach Dave Durden! In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, Olympic Gold Medalist and Cal Bear legend Tom Shields joins the crew to talk about his life post-retirement, his new swimming clinics, and his life in Santa Cruz, California.
Tom takes us through his incredible career, revealing the exact moment he realized his underwaters were world-class and how he used his turns to dominate the sport. But Tom’s next chapter goes far beyond the pool. He details his new t...
Summer League for Adults! The Rise of Grown-Up Swimming with Brian Robbins | Episode 298
Remember the fun of summer league swimming? The relays, the snacks, and hanging out with your friends by the pool? Brian Robbins is bringing that exact energy back to the sport with Grown-Up Swimming, a recreational summer swim league designed specifically for adults.
In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, Brian, John, and Luke sit down with Brian Robbins to discuss the massive, rapid growth of Grown-Up Swimming—expanding from just 7 leagues in 2023 to over 45 cities nationwide today. We dive into the hilarious origin story behind the league's name (and why Turner Broadcasting's "Adult Swi...
Thomas Heilman & Maximus Williamson: UVA’s Lane 8 Titles & The Tattoo Promise | Episode 297
The UVA Men’s team has officially arrived. We are joined by the powerhouse freshman duo of Thomas Heilman and Maximus Williamson to recap a historic NCAA season that saw the Virginia men jump into the Top 10.
Maximus takes us behind the scenes of his legendary 200 Freestyle win from Lane 8 (and the secret tattoo deal he made with Todd DeSorbo), while Thomas breaks down the "stacked" 100 Butterfly final and the intense rivalry and camaraderie at the heart of the Cavalier culture. We dive into the controversial NCAA "No B-Final" format, the reality of swimming relays in the mo...
Julian Koch on the Transfer Portal, 20lbs of Muscle, and Finding a New Home| Episode 296
In this episode of Social Kick, Bryan and the crew sit down with one of the hottest "free agents" in NCAA swimming: Julian Koch. After an explosive sophomore season at Pitt that saw him jump from a non-qualifier to a top seed in the 100 Freestyle A-Final, Julian has officially entered the transfer portal.
Julian breaks down the "overwhelming" 48 hours after his name hit the portal, his recent visits to powerhouses like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee, and the 20-pound muscle transformation that fueled his 40.4 100 Freestyle.
We also dive into his international background—growing up in Dubai, Pa...
David Johnston Discusses Moving to Florida & Exploring NIL Money in Swimming | Episode 295
In this episode of Social Kick, Olympic swimmer David Johnston opens up about his recent decision to transfer from Texas to Florida, diving deep into the realities of navigating the transfer portal, and Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals in collegiate swimming. He candidly shares his struggles with a debilitating shoulder injury, his relentless drive to return to the sport he loves, and his ultimate goal for the 2028 Olympics.
They discuss everything from what it means to “outwork” the competition, adapting to a new coaching style, and the mindset needed to overcome intense physical and mental setbacks. List...
The Josh Bey "Barracuda" Mentality: From Freshman Struggles to NCAA SilverJosh Bey | Episode 293
In this episode of Social Kick, Bryan Lundquist and Dr. John Mullen sit down with Indiana University’s breakout freshman sensation, Josh Bey. After a monster first year that saw him drop 5 seconds in his 200 breaststroke to become the #8 all-time performer (1:48.9) and win the Big 10 title in the 400 IM, Josh pulls back the curtain on the mental and physical grind of elite college swimming.
Josh opens up about his "cannon event"—a heart-to-heart meeting in December that saved his season—and how he moved past crippling superstitions to finally trust his gut. We dive deep into the IU bre...
Kacper Stokowski on Leveling Up Athlete Mentorship & The Future of NIL | Episode 293
In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, we welcome back NCAA Champion and Polish Olympian Kacper Stokowski. Known for his legendary celebrations and underwater dominance at NC State, Kacper is now pivoting his competitive drive into the world of sports business. We discuss his new venture, Level Up Mentorship, a platform designed to bridge the gap between young athletes and elite mentors. Kacper shares his personal journey from a young swimmer in Poland with unanswered questions to an elite athlete realizing the power of a one-on-one connection. We also get Kacper’s takes on the current state of sw...
How Sean Kao Built ASP: From a Parents' Garage to Training the World’s Best Swimmers | Ep. 291
In this episode of the Social Kick Podcast, we sit down with Sean Kao, the founder and mastermind behind Aquatic Sports Performance (ASP). Sean has revolutionized the way elite swimmers approach the weight room, training some of the fastest athletes on the planet, including Caleb Dressel and Michael Andrew. Sean takes us through his journey from being a sprinter at Arizona State University under the legendary Bob Bowman to building a world-class training facility from a garage.
We discuss his "Rate Limiting KPI" philosophy, the reality of "neural load" in sprinting, and the grit required to build...
NCAA Format Shakeup: Why We Need B-Finals Back & The Combined 6-Day "Dream Meet" | Episode 292
The 2026 NCAA Swimming & Diving season is officially in the books! Bryan and John are back from Atlanta (Georgia Tech) to recap a wild week of record-breaking performances and controversial format changes. From the Virginia Women securing an epic 6th straight title to the Texas Men going back-to-back, the dynasties are alive and well—but the sport is changing.
We dive deep into the "no B-finals" experiment, the decision to open the meet with the 1650 Freestyle, and why Josh Liendo and Hubi Kos setting NCAA records in the morning was met with "crickets" in the stands. We also di...
Isabelle Stadden: UVA Reset, Breaking a 5-Year Plateau & The "Traumatic" Murphy Sets | Ep. 290
What happens when a top-tier athlete hits a plateau after five years in the same environment? Isabelle Stadden joins the crew to discuss her "reset" move from Cal to the University of Virginia. After nearly walking away from the sport last summer, Isabelle is back and faster than ever, dropping a massive 2:05 200 Backstroke at Westmont.
We dive deep into the differences between the Dave Durden and Todd DeSorbo training styles, the "trauma" of training with Ryan Murphy at altitude, and why she’s suddenly swimming with the endurance of her high school self. From specific caffeine protocols to...
Anastasia Gorbenko on IM Training, Pro to NCAA Transition & Breaststroke Flip Turns | Ep. 289
What happens when you’re the first alternate for an Olympic final and get the call only 40 minutes before the blocks? Israeli star Anastasia Gorbenko joins the Social Kick crew to break down the "Paris Drama," her transition from the professional ISL ranks to the Louisville Cardinals, and the story behind the most famous flip turn in breaststroke history.
Anastasia discusses the intensity of the "American way" of training, the emotional weight of representing Israel during a time of war, and how she maintains range from a 29.3 50 breaststroke to a world-class 400 IM.
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Daniel & Nathan Wiffen: The 15-Hour Recovery Secret Behind 1500m Greatness | Social Kick Ep. 288
Daniel Wiffen and Nathan Wiffen join the Social Kick Podcast to discuss the training, mindset, and recovery behind elite 1500m freestyle swimming. Olympic champion Daniel Wiffen, one of the fastest distance swimmers in the world, shares the unusual recovery routine—including a famous 15-hour nap cycle—that helped power his rise in Olympic swimming.
In Episode 288 of the Social Kick Podcast, Daniel Wiffen and Nathan Wiffen break down their journey from Loughborough’s high-volume training environment to the marginal gains philosophy at Cal Berkeley swimming. The Wiffen brothers explain how distance swimmers manage brutal training weeks, how race t...
Gabe Jett: Breaking the Yips, Elite Underwaters, and Finding Identity Beyond Swimming | Episode 287
Gabe Jett is more than just a 1:54 butterflyer; he is a film major, a quiche enthusiast, and a man who has looked the 200 fly yips in the eye and won. In this episode, Gabe joins the Social Kick crew to discuss his evolution from a collegiate standout at Cal to a seasoned professional.
He gets remarkably honest about the mental plateau that followed his early success, the fear of the last 50 meters, and how building a life involving film and personal relationships actually made him a faster swimmer. We also dive into the technical details of his...
Charlotte Crush: The #1 Recruit, Team USA, and Building Her Own Legacy
Charlotte Crush isn’t just the top high school recruit in the nation — she’s one of the most promising young swimmers in the world. In Episode 286 of Social Kick, we sit down with the Team USA standout and Lakeside Hawks star to explore the mindset, training, and discipline driving her rapid rise.
Coming from a family of NCAA champions and elite athletes, Charlotte knows expectations follow her everywhere. But rather than shy away from the pressure, she’s learned how to channel it — maintaining a professional approach to the sport while still navigating the realities of high schoo...
Jacob Mills: The 6'6" British Sprint Phenom Chasing Olympic Glory
Jacob Mills is quickly becoming one of the most talked-about young sprinters in world swimming — and for good reason. Standing 6'6" with elite power and rapidly improving efficiency, the British freestyle rising star joins Social Kick after a breakout season that has put the global sprint scene on notice.
In this episode, Jacob breaks down the technical transformation that changed his career — cutting his stroke count dramatically, refining his “big man” freestyle, and learning how to balance raw strength with precision in the water. He shares how his rugby background built the discipline and toughness that now fuels hi...
Ryan Erisman: Beating Olympians & a Breakout Freshman Season at Cal
Ryan Erisman is having one of the most eye-opening freshman seasons in college swimming — and he proved it on the world stage.
Fresh off a dominant performance at the 2026 Pro Swim Series in Austin, the Cal freshman joins Social Kick to break down what it takes to beat Olympic medalists, manage insane race schedules, and thrive inside the legendary Cal system. Ryan talks about winning the 200 and 400 free, dropping massive time in the 1500, and racing everything from the 200 fly to the 100 free — often in the same session.
We get into his rapid transition from high scho...
Skyler Smith: Breaststroke, Confidence & Racing In-Season Ep. 283
Skyler Smith is swimming some of the best races of her career — right now.
In this episode of Social Kick, the UNC senior and U.S. National Team pool member opens up about finding momentum, building confidence, and racing fast without waiting for the perfect taper. From dropping personal bests at the Pro Swim Series to navigating NCAA pressure and setbacks, Skyler shares what it actually takes to stay dangerous across a long season.
This conversation goes deep into breaststroke — how it works for her body, why technique myths persist, and what matters most when raci...
Andy Donaldson: Ultramarathon Swimming, Purpose & 4 Minutes From a World Record | Ep. 282
What does it take to keep going when you’ve already given everything you have?
In this episode of Social Kick, we sit down with Andy Donaldson — ultramarathon swimmer, world-record holder, fastest man to swim around Manhattan Island, and the first male swimmer to complete the Ocean’s Seven in a single calendar year.
Andy shares the realities behind the swims most people only see in photos: long hours in dark water, brutal conditions, sickness, fear, and the moments where progress feels impossible. He opens up about a swim that nearly ended in defeat — before turning...
Eva Okaro on NCAA Swimming, Texas Culture & Breaking Records as a Freshman | Social Kick Ep. 281
British Olympian Eva Okaro joins Social Kick to talk about her breakout freshman season at the University of Texas, adapting to NCAA swimming, and why fun, confidence, and environment have fueled her early success.
Eva shares what it’s really like moving from Team GB to Texas, adjusting to short course yards, handling tougher training, and surrounding herself with athletes who push each other daily. She also opens up about mindset shifts, embracing change, international competition, and what excites her about what’s ahead.
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Transitioning from UK swimming to the NCAA...
Dave Durden: How Cal Swimming Builds Champions & Winning Culture. Ep 280
Legendary coach Dave Durden joins Social Kick to talk culture, champions, and what really matters in elite swim training.
As the head coach of the California Golden Bears, Dave has built one of the most successful programs in college swimming history, developing Olympic champions and sustained excellence. In this episode, he breaks down his coaching philosophy, why evaluating how athletes move in the water matters more than times, and how long-term planning shapes winning environments.
We also dive into recruiting, building trust, and why Dave believes social kick might be one of the most important — an...
Swimming’s Best, Worst, and Weirdest Moments of 2025. Episode 279
Dude, what a year.”
In this year-end episode of The Social Kick Podcast, the full crew — Bryan Lundquist, Dr. John Mullen, and Luke Paddington — gets together to close out 2025 by debating the most unforgettable moments in swimming.
We break down the races that defined the year, from Leon Marchand skipping the 1:53s entirely in the 200 IM to Katie Ledecky breaking the 15-minute barrier at a home invitational. We also dig into the moments that sparked debate and disbelief, including the Florida relay disqualification at NCAAs, the removal of B-Finals from the NCAA format, and a “pool mea...
John Shortt: World Junior Gold, Elite Backstroke Turns, and Ireland’s Breakout Moment. Ep 278
John Shortt is emerging as one of the most exciting young backstrokers in the world.
In this episode of The Social Kick Podcast, the Irish standout and World Junior Champion joins us to talk through his rapid rise on the international stage, including his performances at World Juniors and the European Short Course Championships. Known for his closing speed and elite turns, John breaks down the technical details that separate his backstroke and how years of training in a 20-meter pool shaped his underwater skills.
We discuss his development pathway, confidence-building training sets, and how...
Will Modglin: American Records, the 20.00 Barrier, and Redefining NCAA Backstroke Episode 277
Will Modglin just delivered one of the fastest backstroke performances in NCAA history.
In this episode of The Social Kick Podcast, we sit down with the new American record holder in the 100-yard backstroke after his 43.26 swim at the Texas Hall of Fame Invite. He also clocked the fastest 50-yard backstroke ever with a 20.00 lead-off split, coming within a touch of breaking one of swimming’s most iconic barriers.
A junior at the University of Texas and a U.S. National Team member, Will breaks down the mindset behind those record swims, the training culture at...