Mamamia Out Loud

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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
Yesterday at 12:00 AM

Yes, it’s Good Friday but we’re being bad and bringing you a show anyway. First point of business is Clare Stephens’ elitist Easter egg power ranking Do you agree with her controversial Number One? 

Plus, we’re deep-diving into the Enneagram personality type obsession currently ruining our lives. It seems every A-lister and podcaster is sharing their 'number', so hold our beer. Holly is grumpy about being a 'Peacemaker' 9, Clare is proudly an 'Investigator' 5, and Emily Vernem is a Type 3 Achiever — which apparently means she’s one bad day away from becoming a psychopath. But are Enneagram...


The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Good Point
Last Wednesday at 5:45 AM

An Instagram post asked working mothers for their tips on juggling, and the comments section rebelled. Which is proof that in the last week of a school term, with the holiday/work pressure building, we are not in the mood for helpful hacks, we are in the mood for burning the whole thing down. So, how and why and when did the 'how do you do it all?' bubble burst?

Plus, Amelia Lester is here to help us pick through the chaos of Washington for anything that looks like a golden glimmer in a pile of...


The Co-stars Refusing To Fake It & The Hell Of Organised Fun
Last Monday at 6:00 AM

Zendaya and Robert Pattinson are on a press tour, and the Internet’s calling them ‘classy’ because they’re not pretending to be in lust. Instead, they’re giving each other high-fives like they’re at a corporate seminar. Have we just witnessed the death of the 'fauxmance'?

Plus, in the US, a 20-year-old woman has won a landmark case against YouTube and Meta. She accused the tech billionaires of 'engineering addiction' and ruining her childhood in the process. Their punishment is negligible, so why is this moment being called social media’s ‘Big Tobacco’ moment? And is it a reason for...


Ghost Stories, Celebrity Facelifts & The Real iPad Babies
03/27/2026

We’re following The Washington Post and asking the question Clare Stephens has been quietly pondering for a while: Are boomers the real iPad babies?

Plus, it’s been celebrity facelift week on social media and it’s unclear if actress Denise Richards is being celebrated as a person or an old church in the spon-con post telling us about her “restoration”. Holly wants to know if being open about your facelift is the new vulnerability, or are we just applauding the erasure of a life well-lived?

And, if you’re tired of the "How are you?" an...


The Great Petrol Panic & Royal Reality TV Rumours
03/25/2026

It’s all anyone’s talking about: petrol. How much it’s costing, how much there is to go around and how much worse are things going to get? Is the panic caused by this consequence of war in the Middle East warranted, considering the humanitarian crisis unfolding at the same time? And how do we keep our cool, particularly those of us in regional areas where public transport is a myth? 

Plus, Sarah Ferguson has been caught up in a controversy that is, frankly, bizarre even for the royals: she’s been approached to clone and sell Quee...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple
03/24/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — 'Three Very Different Opinions On Lindy West’s Throuple' — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

The death of millennial feminism.  A bad marriage. Absolutely none of our business.

These are just some of the Internet’s takes on the memoir Adult Braces by millennial icon Lindy West. And of course Mia — who has met and interviewed Lindy and found her delightful and blisteringly smart — has a few opinions of her own. 

...


Polyamory, Cheating & The Marriage No One Wants To Believe
03/23/2026

Question: Why was the latest season of The Bachelorette US cancelled days before release, costing more than US$30 million? Well, it’s got something to do with stunt casting and a very disturbing video leak… 

Also, millennial feminist icon Lindy West has written a memoir about being in a happily married throuple. The problem is, the Internet has seen her unvarnished honesty and unilaterally decided her book is a lie. Does West protest too much? Or do we have a problem believing a woman could ever be happy beyond the white picket fence?

Plus, nap times...


An Unhinged List Of Rules No One Asked For
03/19/2026

Your 'difficult' friends aren't just annoying; they are literally bad for your health. No big deal but it’s official: 'Hasslers' who create drama also accelerate your ‘biological decay’. Is it time to prune the friend tree for the sake of your longevity?

Plus, Belle Burden’s divorce memoir Strangers has the internet asking if telling your 'emotional truth' is just a fancy term for fibbing. With inconsistencies surfacing, Clare wonders if we even care about facts if the story is good, while Em insists that if you’re selling your life story, the least you can do is tell...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!
03/19/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — 'Mia's Diary Note: Burnout & Bras & Books, Oh My!' — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

Mia is deep in a nostalgia hole this week after bingeing the JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy series, Love Story. It turns out, seeing a world without DMs, TikTok trends, or the urge to live-stream your breakfast has her ready to trade her smartphone for a flip phone and some chic minimalism. Are we actually 'connect...


A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip
03/18/2026

Celebrity gossip lip-readers have changed the game. Because of them we know Timothée Chalamet hated the Oscars, King Charles says F and Prince William had no time for 'Andrew’s' apology. So is that ‘zero privacy’ development fair play? And what DID Timmy say to his sister about Kylie Jenner? 

In other scurrilous gossip, we’re meant to think that Nicole Kidman has a new friends-to-lovers boyfriend, and that Keith Urban is 'reeling'. Hmmm.

Plus, peptides are the new cottage cheese, in demand from both older women and teenage boys. Except, unregulated, they can be rather...


FREE SUBS TASTER: 'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback
03/17/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation —  'Are Flaps In Or Out?' Mia's Rogue Oscars Fashion Feedback — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

The biggest night in Hollywood has come and gone, and while the show itself was - dare we say - a bit of a snooze, the fashion gave us plenty to talk about.

In this exclusive subscriber episode, Mia Freedman and Em Vernem dive into this year’s Oscars fashion. From Demi Moore...


A Very Awkward Oscars & That Manosphere Doco
03/16/2026

It’s Oscars Day, aka Christmas for people who like celebrity gossip and frocks. Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens and Amelia Lester have a chaotic recap for you, including whether Leo stole Pedro’s moustache, the jokes that landed and the ones that flopped, and why justice was served in the Best Actor face-off. 

Plus, Louis Theroux has gone Inside the Manosphere for a new Netflix documentary, and there’s a lot to unpack. Are these men dangerous, or just shoddy salesmen looking for a mark? And while we’re at it, is Louis a little outplayed in the 'ever...


What We Did Before 9am
03/13/2026

The Oscars is two days away, and while experts predict with data, Mamamia Out Loud predicts with vibes. From naked afterparty guests to the high-stakes battle between Michael B. Jordan and Timothée Chalamet, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, and Em Vernem are placing their bets and asking an important industry question - will Lewis Hamilton use this as a moment for a Kim K hard launch?

Plus, the "boyboss" era is over and crying at work is officially encouraged, which is lucky. Emily shares her first Mamamia cry while Holly would still rather die than leak from t...


A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
03/12/2026

Outlouders, your usual Friday dose of Mamamia Out Loud will drop this afternoon but for now, here's a lil' treat from us to you. Enjoy. 

She’s 10 days on. She’s splitting her time and her heart between home and hospital, and she wants to share her story with you, Outlouders. 

Our beloved co-host Jessie Stephens gave birth to her boy-girl twins last week, earlier than hoped, and became a mum all over again. There will be so many of you who’ll relate to this story of terror-tinged joy, who will recognise the awe and exha...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word Rule'
03/12/2026

Mia is late to the party. Despite “Let Them” being (one of) her Words Of The Year last year, she is finally listening to the Mel Robbins audio book — and she has thoughts.

In this episode, Mia and Amelia unpack the complicated art of female friendships.  From the 'scatterings' of marriage and kids to the isolation of running a business, is the secret to staying connected actually just... loosening your grip?

But, while Mia is feeling a “massive unclenching”, Amelia is asking whether 'let them' is just a fancy way of being a passive friend?

Plus...


A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV
03/11/2026

This morning we got a great example of a sensitive, complicated pregnancy announcement in a surprising place. Today Show host Sarah Abo and her offsider, one Karl Stefanovic, shared stories of miscarriage and fertility struggles that you just would not have heard on mainstream morning telly a few years back. So we’re unpacking the politics of public pregnancy news in 2026. 

Plus, Gwyneth Paltrow is selling her stuff and we want to bid. Meghan Markle is coming to do a fancy retreat in Australia and we want to go. And Kyle Sandilands says he did nothing wrong and...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana
03/10/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana — at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

Mia Freedman has had quite a week, and today she's behind the mic unpacking it all. Today's subscriber episode is her complete, unfiltered diary entry.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.

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Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note
03/09/2026

The Iranian women’s team has been in Australia playing in the AFC Asian Cup and displaying extraordinary bravery in the face of significant pressure from their home country’s regime. Why have they been criticised and what might happen next?  

Plus, the Kyle and Jackie O “divorce” has entered its ‘it’s complicated’ era, and Jackie is finally setting the record straight on those quitting stories. There are reports her next gig might have something to do with Meghan Markle, with the Duchess heading to Sydney for some high-profile speaking gigs which are definitely not a royal tour. But h...


How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone
03/05/2026

Mascara is over. Yes, it’s joined side parts as beauty cringe, according to the ghost lashes trend that Em Vernem has embraced. We’re unpacking: Are bare eyes cool or do they leave some of us looking like 'elderly babies'?

Plus, the fear of public speaking has morphed into something else: the fear of speaking in public, full stop. So why is small talk dying, and does it matter? We’re asking: Is a quick chat about the weather actually the secret to a happier life?

And, meet the internet’s new favorite literal girlboss...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat
03/05/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the full conversation — Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat— at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

When an Outlouder named Vanessa sent in a dilemma asking if she should quit her job, she did something risky: she name-checked Mia Freedman.

Vanessa has been a listener for seven years and has Mia’s voice on a loop in her head — the one that says women should always keep working to protect their super and their...


Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O
03/04/2026

Australia’s most profitable partnership is over. Kyle and Jackie O, commercial radio’s ratings juggernaut for 25 years now, have officially imploded, apparently over an on-air clash about… astrology. 

Plus, Jim Carrey is in Paris looking different and people are convinced he’s been replaced by a sophisticated clone. Which is interesting, because when female movie stars ‘look different’, we just call them sad. 

And, if you’ve ever been called "too much," a Harvard psychologist wants you to know that oversharing is actually your secret career superpower. Apparently, telling your colleagues about your therapy appointments or...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
03/03/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free nibble of Mia Freedman. Listen to the full conversation — Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene— at 5 pm TODAY. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE.

Mia & Amelia are (still) obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) so they’re back for Part 2 of their deep dive into the TV series Love Story.

From Naomi Watts’ depiction of real-life icon Jackie O to the complex roles of Darryl Hannah and the Kennedy matriarchs, they’re unpacking what it must have been like to marry into t...


Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
03/02/2026

America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next.  Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy, is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid?

Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived through the 90s, and 'fauxstalgia' for those who like t...


The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
02/27/2026

It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage? 

Also, today is Jessie’s last day before she goes off on maternity leave. But not...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
02/26/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman. Catch the full conversation — Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Put matters right HERE.

When a newsletter has the internet in a chokehold, you better believe that Mia Freedman has to unpack it. 

And so it is with the recent Substack from Jameela Jamil. Writing from what Jamil calls the "funeral of the body positivity movement," she posits a theory that is as provocative as it is dark: that the obsession with extreme thinness, hairlessness, and agelessnes...


"I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
02/25/2026

Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars.

And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch. 

Also, the new Married At First Sight vil...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
02/24/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman and Amelia Lester. Catch the full conversation — Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story — at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? That can all change here.

There are two kinds of people: those obsessed with Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (CBK) and those who just don’t get it. Mia Freeman and Amelia Lester are firmly in the first camp.

From Calvin Klein salesgirl to the most scrutinised woman in New York, Carolyn became a 90s' style legend — without ever giving an interview. Her marriage to John F...


Prince William Has Entered The Chat
02/23/2026

Prince William is carrying on, but he’s not calm about it. He and Princess Kate are at the BAFTAs today, but people are only yelling at them about his uncle Prince Andrew's arrest. Holly Wainwright’s question is: Might ‘complicit’ King Charles take the fall for his brother, and hand his sh*t skirt to William?

Plus, "burnout feminism" is the name given to a 2020s shift that’s seeing women leaning out, quitting their jobs and embracing the pleasure of giving up. So, Jessie Stephens wants to know: After a very brief period of celebration, is female...


The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
02/20/2026

It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all? 

Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more? 

Is it ever okay to mention your food intolera...


EMERGENCY MEETING: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
02/20/2026

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has been arrested in the UK on his 66th birthday on suspicion of misconduct in public office. The former Prince is the first senior British royal in modern history to be detained by police.

How did it happen? Why did it happen? And what does King Charles have to say about it?

On this extraordinary day for the Monarchy, we cross to Out Loud Royal correspendent, Holly Wainwright for an Emergency Meeting.

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FREE SUBS TASTER: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
02/19/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia, Holly and Jessie. Catch the full chaos of Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

She’s back. Angelina Jolie has a new movie out and the gossips think she and her co-star, Louis Garrel might be… you know. The comments section is flooded with young women claiming "ick", and that Ange "could be Louis’ mother." She could not, but okay.

Anyway, Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens are unpacking why a 50-year-old woman dating a younger...


MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
02/18/2026

If Barack Obama says there are aliens, then there are aliens. While the former President is busy clarifying that he didn't actually see any ETs in the Oval Office, Jessie Stephens has a theory: Is men’s obsession with outer space just a symptom of not having enough mental load?

Plus, the political "pub test" is officially dead, and the "algorithm test" has moved in and made itself comfortable. We’re looking at why the Internet is both the world’s best fact-checker and its most dangerous bias-confirmer. And Holly Wainwright is asking, what IS the actual pub te...


FREE SUBS TASTER: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
02/17/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright & Amelia Lester. Catch the full chaos at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

Holly loved Wuthering Heights. Amelia hated it. Mia was meh - probably the most batshit of all reactions about the most talked-about movie of the year. 

So today we get into it. Mia Freedman asks Amelia why she thinks Margot Robbie was so miscast as Cathy, why she wished Jacob Elordi came with subtitles and why she’d like two hours of her life back, please. And Mia wants Holly...


Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
02/16/2026

Did Australian politics just take a little topple off a glass cliff, or is the ‘rolling’ of Liberal leader Sussan Ley much more complicated than that? We’ve got the TLDR.

And, Wuthering Heights is everywhere and so is criticism of just what kind of “greatest love story” it is. A very sexy one, or a downright irresponsible one? 

Also, looksmaxxing. What is it? Who’s doing it? And why does it have to involve 17 different tablets every morning and a whole lot of money? 

Oh, and a little round up of scurrilous gossip for you...


"Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
02/13/2026

Outlouders, it’s Friday the 13th and the vibes are… chaotic. From Wuthering Heights to Finger Princesses to The Year of the Fire Horse and our weekly reccos, today's show is A LOT.

We’re about to enter the Year of the Fire Horse and apparently it’s all action, freedom and breakthrough energy. Unless you’re a Pig (sorry, Holly Wainwright). Jessie Stephens and Clare Stephens are claiming this as their zodiac Super Bowl, but there’s a tiny historical footnote involving superstition, falling birth rates and the suggestion Fire Horses are “too wild.” Rude.

And, the robo...


FREE SUBS TASTER: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
02/12/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia exploring what we're (scientifically) calling 'weird twin shit' with resident Mamamia twins, Jessie and Clare Stephens. Catch the full chaos of Jessie And Clare Stephens’ Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the...


An Affair Confession Live On Air
02/11/2026

"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work? 

Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy. Today, there's been an announcement that a man h...


FREE SUBS TASTER: The Generation Who Wins Parenting
02/10/2026

Outlouders, enjoy this free taste of Mia asking which generation of parents is top of the leaderboard on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the complete episode of The Generation Who Wins Parenting at 5pm today. Not a subscriber, you say? Do yourself a favour.

What happens when Gen X realises she’s starting to look like her mum — and that her kids are now the age she was when she thought her parents were ancient? A very MMOL conversation, that’s what.

In this subscriber-only episode, Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens unpack how parentin...


The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
02/09/2026

It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show? 

In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants?

And, Recip...


Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
02/06/2026

Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project Unleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up.

And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'.

Plus, hotel bathrooms. Something’s changed, and it’s making us f...