The Skillest Podcast

Jerome Theunis was a golf pro himself — a Challenge Tour player who represented Belgium in the World Cup — before he became one of the most sought-after (and quietly under-the-radar) coaches in the game. It started with his roommate on tour, a young Nico Colsaerts, who got sick of finding golf technique books in the bathroom and Sharpie diagrams on the hotel TV. "I think you're pure psycho," Nico told him. A few years later Colsaerts was in the Ryder Cup, and Jerome had found his calling.

Since then he's worked behind the scenes with players like Adrian Mero...

What actually separates the coaches building thriving online businesses from everyone else?

In this episode of the Skillest Pod, Baden Schaff sits down with Mark Govier and Alex Clapp to unpack what great modern coaching really looks like — and why simply being a great instructor is no longer enough.

They dig into how Mark and Alex structure long-term player development, create clear roadmaps for their students, use content to extend their coaching beyond the lesson, and build the kind of high-touch relationships that keep players engaged for years.

But the conversation goes much de...

The coaching industry is changing faster than ever.

In this episode, the Skilly boys dive into what modern coaching really looks like in 2026—and why the coaches who thrive over the next decade won't simply teach more lessons. They'll build better systems, stronger relationships, and businesses that extend far beyond the lesson tee.

We discuss:

Sean Foley has coached some of the biggest names in golf, but this conversation goes far beyond the golf swing.

Sean joins Baden Schaff and Alex Clapp for one of the deepest discussions we've ever had on coaching, performance and what it really takes to help people improve.

They dive into Sean's work with Tom Kim, Lydia Ko and the next generation of elite players, why he's more convinced than ever that skill beats dogma, and how three decades on Tour have completely changed the way he teaches.

Along the way, Sean shares...

Clappy is back from his first major as a coach, and it was a good one. He breaks down how Royal Birkdale played at The Open — pins tucked on the edge of every green, morning waves getting the calm before the afternoon storm, and how firm-and-fast conditions rewarded players like Ryan Fox and Lucas Herbert who grew up on similar ground back home.

He also shares what it was like coaching Tom Sloman through his first Open, practice rounds with Harris English, Keith Mitchell, Ryan Gerard and Laurie Canter, and a great conversation with Claude Harmon about th...

Six DP World Tour wins. One of the most respected short games the sport's ever produced. This week we sit down with Brett Rumford — the Perth kid who was too small to reach par fours in two, so he built a short game that carried him around the world instead.

Brett takes us back to chipping for six hours a day at Collier Park, caddying for tour pros as a teenager, and the day TrackMan showed up and blew up every edge he'd spent a lifetime building. We get into shaft lean, "the balance of the club," wh...

Baden and Clappy are back after a flat-out couple of weeks. Baden unboxes his first new set of irons in six years (thanks to Tommy Bailey at Avoda) and gets real about lie angle, and finally ditching his "Ben Hogan delusion." Clappy previews his upcoming Titleist shoe fitting and force-plate session in search of extra ground-reaction speed.

Then the pair dig into the US Open: the Wyndham Clark heckling controversy, a shoutout to coach Pat Coyner, and Sean Foley's quiet wizardry with Tom Kim. That leads into the meat of the episode — a deep dive on why so...

When Mark Govier and Alex Clapp are on, it's officially the Skilly Pod — and this one's a banger.

Mark joins us fresh from caddying at the Women's US Open at Riviera with his player Pauline Del Rosario (Philippines represent 🇵🇭), giving us the inside scoop on that brutal Kikuyu rough, Charley Hull's refreshingly chaotic pace of play, and what it's like watching Nelly and Gabby bomb it 270+ yards in a practice round. Meanwhile, Clappy jumped on straight off a flight from LA — where he managed to squeeze in a round at Riv with none other than Kevin Hart and crew...

Chris Trott spent 20 years fitting golf clubs for the best players on the planet — from Dustin Johnson to Brooks Koepka to Tiger Woods. Now he's running the Trot Shop, a tour-style fitting trailer in San Diego, and what he's seeing from everyday golfers is blowing his mind.

In this episode, Trottie pulls no punches on why most club fitting is broken, why shorter shafts outperform what OEMs sell at retail, and the myths he's spent a career dismantling — tipping, puring, shaft flex, lie angles, and the obsession with launch monitors over eyes and ears. He also shares the...

The crew is deep into summer golf season — and this week there's plenty to talk about. First up, the Women's US Open heads to Riviera Country Club, and the guys make the case for why Riv might actually suit the women's game better than the men's. The iconic par-4 10th gets its due, and Coach Clappy shares why he'll be there in person — supporting his student Davina Zand as she competes in the Curtis Cup at Bel-Air.

From there, the conversation turns to one of coaching's great debates: has golf instruction become too technical? With launch monitors, vide...

The crew is deep into summer golf season — and this week there's plenty to talk about. First up, the Women's US Open heads to Riviera Country Club, and the guys make the case for why Riv might actually suit the women's game better than the men's. The iconic par-4 10th gets its due, and Coach Clappy shares why he'll be there in person — supporting his student Davina Zand as she competes in the Curtis Cup at Bel-Air.

From there, the conversation turns to one of coaching's great debates: has golf instruction become too technical? With...

Drew Steckel has coached Kevin Na, Pat Perez, Jason Kokrak, and Chesson Hadley — and he did it all before turning 24. He's not rebuilding swings from scratch. He's unlocking what's already there.

In this episode, Baden sits down with one of the most in-demand coaches on tour to talk about what it actually takes to revive a career at the highest level, why working inside the ropes changes everything, and how he thinks about teaching players who've already "made it" but know there's more.

We get into his philosophy on keeping it simple in a...

In this episode, we sit down with one of golf instruction’s most recognisable voices to unpack how a former snowboarder from Vermont became one of the most diversified coaches in the game. Keith gets brutally honest about the mental rewiring it took to stop filling his calendar with back-to-back lessons and start thinking like a business owner — and the friend/mentor who helped him see it.

We get into:

•Why being an outsider to traditional golf coaching was actually his biggest advantage
•How 2,700 Instagram posts cured his introversion (kind of)
•The ping pong paddl...

Baden and Clappy kick off with a deep dive into the oddities of international timekeeping — Mother's Day, Father's Day, and why Adelaide is somehow half an hour ahead of Brisbane in summer — before getting into the golf that matters.

Chris Wood's win on the Hotel Planner Challenge Tour gets the treatment it deserves: a former Ryder Cup player who bottomed out, rebuilt on the Mina Tour, and quietly reminded everyone he was always that good. Then Alex Fitzpatrick's near-miss at the weekend sparks a conversation about whether he's already the real deal — back door PGA Tour card or not...

What happens when one of golf’s smartest media minds sits down with two golf-obsessed coaching nerds? You get a conversation that goes everywhere — tour players, TPI, coaching methods, golf media, LIV, mobility, practice, AI, and the future of instruction.

This week on the Skillest Podcast, Baden and Alex Clapp are joined by Luke Kerr-Dineen from Golf Digest
— one of the most influential voices in modern golf instruction media.

Luke opens up about his journey from aspiring journalist to becoming one of the key figures shaping how golfers consume instruction today. The guys dive deep i...

Why do great golf coaches disagree on so many things?

And more importantly… does it actually matter?

In this episode, Baden and Alex unpack the reality of modern golf coaching — where data is everywhere, opinions are stronger than ever, and there’s still no single “right way” to swing a club.

You’ll learn:

This week on the Skilly Pod, Baden and Clappy sit down with Mark Govier — Welsh Dragon, high performance coach at Altus Golf, and one of the most engaged coaches on the Skillest platform.

Mark's coaching journey spans 30 years, from running his own academy in Wales to being recruited by Cam McCormick to join the Altus setup in Dallas, where he works with elite juniors, college players, and tour professionals.

The conversation gets into what separates real coaching from the traditional one-off lesson model — and spoiler: it's not about more swing videos. Mark, Clappy, and Baden unpa...

Baden and Clappy are back to unpack a massive week in golf. They kick off at Harbour Town — a course that makes the case that great design, not a rolled-back ball, is how you defend par. From there it's a proper debate on the USGA's bifurcation plan: is it pointless engineering theatre, or the future of the pro game? The boys get into why slower swingers barely notice the change, the social awkwardness of "which ball are you playing?" at your home club, and why Trotty Golf reckons driver designers will claw every yard back anyway.

Then it...

The Masters is done for another year — and Rory McIlroy made it look frighteningly comfortable. Baden and Clappy break down how a man who ranked second-last in driving accuracy for the weekend somehow won by three, why Augusta may be more forgiving than it used to be, and whether any of the chasing pack ever really had a chance.

Then the conversation turns to a topic that lit up the coaching world during Masters week: Brandel Chamblee's claim that Scottie Scheffler has a "steepening move." The boys dig into why the terminology matters, what the camera angle wa...

Augusta National is the greatest stage in golf, and this week it's centre stage. Baden and Alex (Clappy) kick off Masters Week with an unfiltered preview — debating why the Masters beats every other major (no phones, perfect contrast, Amen Corner), picking their contenders for the Green Jacket, and revisiting Tiger's single most iconic moment on that course.

They also touch on what it actually takes to win Augusta — why first-timers rarely contend, why the best players almost always win it, and what separates the course knowledge of someone like Ludvig Åberg from the rest of the field.

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What do you get when a pain-riddled amateur golfer goes down every rabbit hole imaginable — coaching, biomechanics, club grinding, and manufacturing — and ends up accidentally building one of the most disruptive equipment brands in the game? You get Tom Bailey and Avoda Golf.

Tom joined us for a wide-ranging conversation about how a bench grinder, a brother with an e-commerce background, and a frustrated Bryson DeChambeau turned a 50-set goal into one of golf's fastest-growing club companies.

We get deep into the science behind what Avoda actually does differently — lie angle as the single most import...

The comeback continues.

In Episode 2 of The Skillest Pod, Baden Schaff and Alex Clapp dive into everything happening in golf right now — from Tiger’s latest situation to the rapid rise of launch monitors, VR golf, and what the future of coaching actually looks like.

They cover:

Plus, Gary Woodland’s incredible comeback and a preview of an upcoming episode wi...

The Skilly Pod is back — and we’re kicking things off with Alex Clapp.

In this episode, Baden and Alex set the tone for what this podcast is all about: getting better at golf, building better coaching businesses, and having a bit of fun along the way.

We dive into:

We had an AMAZING FINISH at Pinehurst, and Ludda (our boots on the ground) had plenty to document. The boys broke down the iconic moments from the tournament, analyzed Rory's swing (and collapse), as well as discussed the significance of the face of LIV beating the face of the PGA...

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Happy U.S. Open Week! Ludda is out this episode, as he will be our "boots on the ground" LIVE from Pinehurst (stay tuned for more podcasts this week) but in his place TODAY, we have the brilliant Alex "Clappy" Clapp, a renowned golf coach and Skillest icon. In this pod, Clappy breaks down what to expect from Pinehurst this week, as he recently played the course. Later on Baden discusses a MASSIVE $10,000 GIVEAWAY Skillest is distributing... you will have to listen to find out more.

To be eligible for the giveaway, you must be a Skillest...

The boys break down the 2024 PGA Championship as they talk Schauffele winning, the biggest surprises of the tournament, and other amazing stories from the weekend in Valhalla.

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The boys are BACK and brought some championship level energy to this pod! They broke down all things PGA Championship play at Valhalla, who they think will win it, and yes... they mentioned Scottie Scheffler's all time performance today.

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In this episode, it was all about the man of the hour, David Lutterus. In this very casual yet epic one-on-one interview, Baden explores the incredible origin of our international man of mystery, revealing some awesome tales and inspiring knowledge about our lovely co-host, the only and only "Ludda."

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In this episode, it was all about the man of the hour, David Lutterus. In this very casual yet epic one-on-one interview, Baden explores the incredible origin of our international man of mystery, revealing some awesome tales and inspiring knowledge about our lovely co-host, the only and only Lutta.

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On this episode, Baden gets technical with a LONGTIME friend of the Skillest Platform, coach Alex Moore, who has been on the app for 6 and a half years. They discussed the influence that the great Mac O’Grady had on his coaching career, how he uses the MORAD teachings to assess students on Skillest, and they broke down Moore's very wholistic training style.

One of the first ever Skillest Podcast guests returns after all these years as Ryan Ruffels is back on the program! On this episode, the guys talked about Ryan's involvement with Jason Day's new clothing line Malbon Golf, how YouTube and other social media platforms have transformed the golf industry, as well as the fate of LIV and PGA. An epic listen for Skillest followers and newcomers alike.

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We finally got him! Terry Rowles, one of the most renowned names in the world of golf instruction, NOT ONLY joins us on our podcast...Terry is becoming a Skillest Coach! In this episode, we welcome Terry and his research-based approach to the Skillest family as well as provide a tease of his coaching process in general, such a process where students often experience immediate improvements.  Catch a listen!

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The boys were STOKED for this episode as online coaching pioneer Andy Proudman stopped by the Skillest pod to talk about Me and My Golf, content creation, and the future of golf instruction...

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In this episode, you pretty much get a free golf lesson. The guys get super detailed on what your swing should look like, how you should differentiate your swing on the fairway as opposed to on the tee box, and of course which professional swings you should copy and which you should NOT.

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Episode 2 of the new year kicks off with a major splash in the world of golf sponsorships: Tiger Woods has parted ways with Nike after 27 years. Shortly after, the boys get into some interesting debates about chipping (and this turns into a very detailed chipping discussion that golfers of all skillsets are not going to want to miss!)

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By popular demand, the boys are BACK! On today's episode, they broke down the ongoing LIV/PGA Tour debacle, Lutta playing with Donald Trump, and of course...they dropped some world class golf knowledge.

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More golfers are off to LIV, including Brooks Koepka. In Gee Chun wins the LPGA Championship and Xander Schauffele wins the Travelers.  Lutterus shares his experience at Muirfield Village Golf Club over the weekend. Then the guys have a detailed discussion on short game technique & more.

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An absolutely epic finish to America's major is recapped by Baden Schaff & David Lutterus, as they break down the 2022 US Open at The Country Club in Brookline, MA, USA.

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Baden & Ludda are back to preview the US Open, including all the news surrounding LIV Golf leading into America's Major.

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Skillest coach and coach of Kevin Na & Jason Krokak joins the podcast to preview everything about this weekend's PGA Championship.

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