The Running Public
Two endurance athletes and coaches sit down to talk all things running! We bring you high level running knowledge and present it at a practical level.
Episode 590: Cody Taylor
When COVID effectively ended his music career, Cody reinvented himself as a an endurance athlete. From running across the Atacama Desert to setting an FKT on the Bruce Trail in the wilderness of Canada, heâs been searching for his limit and hasnât found it yet.
Training Tuesday: Q&A!
Youâve sent some great questions this month! Highlights include:
Whatâs holding you back, efficiency or engine?Â
What supplements should you be trying?
Uphill efficiency vs flat speed efficiency.
What should you do if your HR is too high even when jogging slow?
Episode 588: Soft Tissue Rehab with Dr Jared
Jared Francisca PT, DPT, joins us to talk specific processes for rehabbing common running related soft tissue injuries (tendinitis, tendinopathy, strains, tears).Â
Training Tuesday: How Important is Strength Training?
Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Strength Training for a distance runner.
Episode 586: Brakken v Kirk Lifetime Race Results
With both boys scheduled to toe the same start line in May, this marks their first time racing each other since 2021! Today they break down their lifetime head to head match ups and predict how this one will go.
Training Tuesday: How Important Are Long Runs?
Kirk takes one side and Brakken takes the other while they debate the overall importance of Long Runs in a training plan.
Episode 584: Betsy Mueller Ran Across the USA
Exactly one hundred episodes ago, we spoke with Betsy about her plan to ran across the US despite living with MS. Here we are, one year later, to discuss her experience!
Training Tuesday: The Superior Spring 50k Lottery!
Both Brakken and Kirk entered the lottery and this week they both found out they got in! With sixteen weeks until race day, what is their plan for being ready to attack 31 miles of technical, hilly terrain??
Episode 582: Q&A!
Our take on orthotics. One shoe to âdo it allâ. Should we worry about kidsâ running form? If we had to add in one extra hour of non-aerobic training per day, what would it be? How long to adjust to carbon plated shoes. How cold is too cold to run? And more!
Training Tuesday: Efficiency with Felicia Pasadyn
Training for the Olympic Marathon Trials on top of full time med school means that Felicia has to be hyper efficient with her training and her daily schedule. We discuss her daily practices, tips, and recommendations for living a more efficient life.
Episode 580: Ryan Kules
Last month, double amputee Ryan Kules set three Guinness World Records for adaptive rowing: fastest marathon, fastest ultramarathon, and longest distance in one hour.Â
Training Tuesday: Our Ultra Off Season
With both of us having an âUltra Focusâ this off season, but starting with totally different fitness levels, this is what it will look like from a training perspective.
Episode 578: The Final Q&A of 2025
We close out our podcast year the best way we know how: Q&A sesh!
Episode 577: All We Really Want for Christmas
When we look back a year from now, these are the race results and training blocks that will make us happy men in 2026!
Episode 576: Speedgoat & Clifton Alternatives
A few episodes ago, we mentioned how the Hoka Speedgoat and Clifton just arenât working for us like they used to and so many of you reached out to confirm your same experience. So, today weâre giving you eighteen alternative shoe options to consider!
Training Tuesday: 2025 Year In Review
We, but mostly Brakken, talk about our year of training, racing, and also what next year might look like!
Episode 574: You Only Get Three!
We pick three shoes, three training locations, and three pieces of gear/clothing for each major race type: 5k/10k, Half Marathon/Marathon, and Ultramarathons.
Training Tuesday: Why Ultras are the Best Race Distance(s)
The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what Ultramarathon fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!
Episode 572: Mary Martin - Race Director
Mary Martin is the race director of the Standhope Ultra Challenge in Idaho: a race built for women, parents, and the next generation of mountain athletes.
Training Tuesday: Why the Half Marathon/Marathon is the Best Distance!
The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what HM / Marathon fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!
Training Tuesday: Why the 5k / 10k is the Best Distance
The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what 5k / 10k fitness allows you to do makes these the best race distances!
Episode 569: Felicia Pasadyn
Former NCAA D1 swimmer, current NYU med student, and recent Olympic Trials Marathon Qualifier off less than 50 miles per week!
Training Tuesday: Why The Mile is the Best Distance
The training, the current Pro scene, the race itself, and what Mile fitness allows you to do makes the Mile the best race distance!
Episode 567: The 6 Best Questions of the Week
Todayâs topics: HRV, Strength Training, Extra Sleep vs Extra Training, 100M readiness, Strava Overtraining, and Backwards Walking.Â
Training Tuesday: Q&A!
Kirk is back in the studio and weâre answering your most pressing running questions!
Episode 565: Kylee Van Horn, RDN
A nutrition coach and sports dietitian in addition to being a runner herself, Kylee specializes in endurance athletes struggling with complex GI issues, race fueling complexities, disorderedÂ
eating, eating disorders, low energy availability, and REDS.Â
Training Tuesday: How to Build a Running Program for HYROX
Sound familiar? The RMR podcast did this exact topic this week. Rich didnât listen to this, we didnât listen to his, and we did not discuss our talking points with each other prior to recording! Mostly because Rich didnât know we were doing this. Check his out if you havenât already and see where we are in alignment and where we disagree!
Training Tuesday: Running Influencers - Good or Bad for Us?
They arenât going anywhere any time soon, so is the running community better or worse for their presence??
Episode 562: Our Favorite âPlug & Playâ Workouts
Anytime, anywhere! These workouts are simply great for building overall fitness.Â
Training Tuesday: Float Workouts
Kirk loves float style intervals. Brakken loves to hate them. What exactly makes these workouts worth doing?
Episode 560: Mark Dowdle
Ultra runner extraordinaire, Mark Dowdle, joins us to chat all things Backyard Ultras and Last Man Standing events.
Training Tuesday: Running Math
If two 5 mile runs equal one 8 mile run, what does the 4x4x48 Challenge equal? And does a 15:00 5k runner hurt the same as a 15 minute two mile runner, assuming they are both at max effort?? What about time spent in zones?!? Let chaos ensue!
Episode 559: Q&A
We choose your six best questions of the week to spend a little extra time analyzing and talking through!
Training Tuesday: Itâs Time to Go Rip!
The weather is finally shifting away from the summer heat and it is time to go find out exactly what kind of fitness youâve build this year!
Episode 557: James Herrera
James brings a crazy resume to the podcast:
USA Cycling BMX National Team Coach USA Cycling Coach of the Year Physical Health & Wellness Vice President for the Wounded Warrior project Exercise Physiologist Bike Racer & Trail RunnerTraining Tuesday: The Stages of Running Grief
How should you actually feel during each stage of training? From Off Season and Base all the way through Competition, here is how our energy levels, soreness, and motivation changes throughout the cycles.Â
Training Tuesday: Bridge Season
When life dictates that you need some time away from full bore training, but you donât really want or need a real offseason, itâs time for a Bridge Season!
Rylan Remembered
Today weâre re-airing our interview with Rylan Schadegg. Rylan passed away last week and this is the best way we know of keeping his voice alive.
Episode 553: Which is Better?
High mileage with less âQualityâ workouts or low mileage with more Quality? Singles or Doubles? Base Building before starting Speed Work or doing it concurrently? Long Runs or Medium Runs?
Training Tuesday: Our Vertical Gain Recommendations
Last week we discussed why a formula CANâT accurately tell you how much hill work you should be doing. This week we discuss exactly what you SHOULD be doing in training!