The Running Public

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By: Kirk Dewindt & Brakken Kraker

Two endurance athletes and coaches sit down to talk all things running! We bring you high level running knowledge and present it at a practical level.

Training Tuesday: BK is Overseas and Just Really Needs to Race
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Last Wednesday at 5:34 AM

After completing just 2 races in the past year, it is time for Brakken to sign up, show up, and get back to racing!


Episode 521: Rich Ryan
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Last Saturday at 4:01 AM

For the past 25 years, Rich has never stopped pursuing his goal of becoming the best runner and athlete possible. Why has he now, at the age of 39, seemingly reached new heights of fitness?


Training Tuesday: The Best Long Runs (for most people)
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04/30/2025

The Long Run is a staple of life for many distance runners. It is also pretty demanding on the body. Here are our favorite “bang for your buck” options!


Episode 519: Darla O’Connor Pt 2
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04/26/2025

Darla returns to talk injuries, rehab, holding on to fitness through cross training, and refusing to ever give back or back down.


Training Tuesday: The Best Trail & Mountain Workouts
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04/23/2025

Can you just do classic track workouts on the trails? Sure. But sometimes you need something specifically designed for your off road racing needs!


Episode 517: The Best WORST Bang For Your Buck Workouts
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04/20/2025

On Tuesday we covered the workouts that give you solid fitness benefits with very little recovery costs. Today we are taking the opposite stance: workouts that are crazy costly but have the potential for big improvements to your fitness and/or confidence!


Training Tuesday: The Best “Bang for Your Buck” Workouts
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04/16/2025

Minimum recovery costs; maximum fitness gain. These are the workouts we find to be most repeatable, manageable, and enjoyable! We choose multiple options each for Speed, Threshold, and Tempo sessions.


Episode 515: Play to Your Strengths
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04/11/2025

Running is hard! Are you playing to your strengths as a runner or just banging your head against the wall?


Training Tuesday: Back From Vacation
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04/08/2025

Kirk was in California crushing marathon workouts and big mountain runs. Brakken was in Sweden… cross training? 


Episode 513: Scott Frey - Cerebral Performance
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04/05/2025

Scott H. Frey, Ph.D., Ed.M., is an award-winning scientist, mentor, and lifelong endurance athlete. For the past 30 years, he led a research program that focused on understanding the relationship between the brain and human performance and is now applying his methods to endurance athletes around the world.

Visit cerebralperformance.com to learn more.


Episode 512: Michael Wardian
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03/29/2025

Professional runner and Guinness World Record holder Michael Wardian talks goals, recent runs and races, and his work with World Vision on a clean water initiative. 


Training Tuesday: Get to Know Your Stride
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03/20/2025

When pace, gps or hr fails you during a race, having a metronome stride you can fall back on to ensure that you are pacing correctly is a huge advantage!


Episode 510: Sean Roach
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03/17/2025

Sean is the founder and owner of Emergence Physical Therapy Strength and Running Performance Center in Redmond, Oregon, an ultra runner, and a holder of multiple Master’s power lifting records.


Training Tuesday: Lessons From Intervals
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03/12/2025

Workout One: 12x 1000m w/ 1:00 float recovery.

Workout Two: 10x 200m w/ 150m jog recovery.

 

Both workouts didn’t quite go as planned and adjustments had to be made during. What do you take away from a workout that goes awry?

 

 


Episode 508: Non-Running AMA (mostly)
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03/08/2025

Life and personal questions, generated randomly, answered by us? Sounds like Long Run material!


Training Tuesday: Don’t Let Training Get in the Way of Racing!
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03/05/2025

“I probably shouldn’t do this cool local race because it doesn’t fit in with the training block I’m currently in.” Sound familiar? Let’s chat it out!


Episode 506: Derek Rubis Pt 2
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03/01/2025

You asked and we delivered! Three years after our last chat with Derek about his journey with running and his battle with colon cancer, he rejoins the show to update us on his life, health, and running.


Training Tuesday: A Conversation About Training & Goals
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02/26/2025

We take some time to talk through racing goals and pick each other’s brains about the training needed to accomplish them!


Episode 504: Matt Fitzgerald - Chasing Mastery
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02/21/2025

Matt joins us to talk about:

After three years of dealing with Long COVID, going from zero miles per week to racing a 100k Adapting his training to accommodate his body’s “new rules” His new book: Chasing Mastery


Training Tuesday: How We Think About Mileage
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02/18/2025

Far too many runners choose their training volume based on what others are doing. This is how we think about the appropriate volume to train at!


Episode 502: Reminders Part Two
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02/15/2025

We continue from where we left off last week with Kirk taking the lead on his most impactful takeaways from our early episodes.


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Early Season Races”
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02/12/2025

How we approach them, our strategy, our training adjustments, and our expectations.


Episode 500: Five Years of Reminders
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02/07/2025

We have had the opportunity to listen to so many incredible individuals impart knowledge, wisdom, and warnings over the past 500 episodes. Today we recap some of the best lessons we’ve learned from others since starting this podcast.


Training Tuesday: 8 Mini Topics
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02/04/2025

Our current practices for injury prevention. How to implement hill work and at what grade of steepness. How Lactate Threshold HR and pace change over time. When to time trial and when to race. Plus more!


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Strength Training”
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01/29/2025

Why should runners lift? What is really considered strength training when it comes to endurance running? How often do we think a runner should lift? Do we prioritize performance or prevention of injury? And much more!


Q&A: Your Questions Answered!
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01/25/2025


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Choosing a Running Shoe”
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01/22/2025

This isn’t us telling you what shoes to get. We’re not telling you what shoes we think are “good”. There is really no such thing as a “good” or “bad” shoe these days; just a shoe that does or doesn’t work well for your foot and purpose. Today we discuss how to decide what shoes are likely to be a good match for your feet, your stride, and your terrain.


Episode 497: Cam Bostock
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01/18/2025

Cam is a renowned endurance athlete, through hiker, and all around outdoor adventurer. In 2024, between completing the Pacific Crest Trail and several other adventures, he slept outdoors more than indoors!


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Off Season / Base Building”
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01/14/2025

This is episode three in a series of Training Tuesdays explaining our rationale behind the way we think about and execute various pieces of our training. Today: How to approach your Off Season. 


Episode 495: Ian Floyd - Pt 2
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01/12/2025

Ian completed two of the tougher 100 mile races in the US this past year, despite never running a race longer than 65 miles prior. Today we chat about persevering, staying the course, and putting one foot in front of the other when you absolutely do not want to.


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Speed Development”
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01/08/2025

This is episode two in a series of Training Tuesdays explaining our rationale behind the way we think about and execute various pieces of our training. Today: Speed Development for distance runners. How much, when to do it, and how to know what exactly you need as a runner.


Episode 493: Setting Our 2025 Goals
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01/04/2025

We lay out our training and racing goals & aspirations for the coming season!


Training Tuesday: How We Think About “Warming Up”
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01/01/2025

We’re kicking off a series of Training Tuesday episodes explaining our rationale behind the way we think about and execute various pieces of our training. Today: the Pre-Race Warm Up. Most people do far too little. Some people do way too much. Either way, we’re not telling just telling you HOW to warm up, we’re telling the REASON we believe you should warm up a certain way.


Episode 491: Our 2024 Year In Review
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12/28/2024

One of us did a lot of running and racing. The other did a lot of rehabbing and dreaming about racing. We both learned a ton.


Episode 490: Austin Smeenk
12/20/2024

The world record holder in the 400m and 800m, Austin competed at the 2016, 2020, and 2024 Summer Paralympic Games, winning a gold and a bronze medal in Paris 24.


Training Tuesday: Mini Q&A
12/18/2024

We discuss our recent training, team racing strategy, fueling during stage racing, and our reactions to the training principles David Roche implemented during his build to the Leadville 100.


Training Tuesday: Is Your Running Relationship a Healthy One?
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12/11/2024

How often should you look forward to your runs? How often should you feel good during a run? How should running (or missing a run) affect your daily life? Does race performance affect your self worth?


Episode 487: No Context Social Media Clips
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12/06/2024

Ian Hosek combs through the social media clips from our 2024 episodes and questions us about things we’ve said that he disagrees with!


Training Tuesday: Listener Questions
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12/04/2024

Traditional lifting vs CrossFit for runners Speed first vs Endurance first for a new runner How early to wake up before races and long runs Workout anxiety/doubts and more!


Training Tuesday: OCR Training > Traditional Run Training?
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11/27/2024

If you aren’t an elite runner, is OCR style training your best way to improve your running?