Drew And Fuse Show | DAFS
The Drew And Fuse Show is a weekly podcast hosted by veteran DJs Drew Pierce and DJ Fuse (Fuseamania), bringing you real conversations from inside the DJ, nightlife, and music industry. Each episode blends industry insights, unfiltered DJ talk, trending music discussions, event stories, and behind-the-scenes experiences from the booth, the road, and everything in between. From breaking down whatโs happening in clubs and festivals to interviews with DJs, producers, brand leaders, and tastemakers, the show keeps it honest, informative, and entertaining. With 175+ episodes, listeners across the U.S. and around the world, and a growing video presence on Yo...
Mobile Beat Vegas Is Back, DMS Party & More | EP 224
The conversation covers various topics including updates on DMS, new Apple product announcements, and discussions about DJing technology and practices. The hosts also share insights on upcoming events and the importance of networking in the DJ community. The conversation explores the importance of maintaining equipment for DJs, the significance of branding in the industry, and personal experiences from recent gigs, emphasizing the need for adaptability and creativity in performance.
Takeaways
AI customization for DMSNew Apple product excitement Equipment maintenance is crucialBranding enhances DJ longevityChapters
00:00 Introduction and Updates on DMS02:40 Exciting...Serato 5.0 Is Here | EP 223
In this episode of the Drew and Fuse Show, the hosts discuss the latest updates in Serato 5.0, including new features like lucid beat grids, open streaming, and iOS transfer capabilities. They also touch on Halloween music trends and share personal anecdotes about their DJ experiences.
Takeaways
Serato 5.0 introduces major featuresHalloween music trends discussedChapters
00:00 Introduction and Housekeeping03:29 Serato 5.0 Overview10:15 Lucid Beat Grids and Streaming14:04 Q Loops and iOS Transfer23:16 Ape Labs New Light and Halloween MusicAudit Your DJ Brand, Talent Isn't Enough | EP 222
In this episode, Fuse and Drew discuss various topics including new gear, social media trends, and the importance of a strong online presence for DJs. They emphasize the need for a brand audit and how it can impact booking opportunities. In this conversation, Drew and Fuse discuss the importance of timely communication in the DJ industry, share rants about the challenges of planning events for older demographics, and navigate the complexities of fulfilling wedding DJ requests. They also touch on their upcoming events and the need for DJs to adapt to client expectations.
Takeaways
Importance of...AI Music, DJ Stems & the Art of Making Edits That Hit Ft. Victor Menegaux | EP 221
In this episode, David and Drew welcome back Victor Menegaux, who shares a memorable story about his experience DJing for Kenny Loggins. The conversation explores the evolution of their podcast, the importance of video content, and the dynamics of DJing, particularly the challenges faced by opening acts. The conversation delves into the evolution of music sourcing for DJs, the impact of AI on music production, and the importance of quality edits. The speakers discuss the changing landscape of music trends, the relevance of traditional charts, and the future implications of AI in the industry. In this conversation, the speakers...
Wedding DJs Stop Playing Coordinator | 220
In this episode, David and Drew celebrate five years of their podcast while discussing the evolving role of DJs at weddings, particularly in the absence of a wedding planner. They share personal experiences, insights on pricing, and the importance of maintaining professionalism in the DJ industry.
Takeaways
Evolving DJ roles at weddingsImportance of hiring coordinatorsChapters
00:00 Celebrating Five Years of Podcasting03:46 The Role of DJs in Weddings07:01 Navigating Wedding Coordination16:22 The Importance of Professionalism27:01 Gear Talk: New Hercules Controller31:58 Weekend Recap and ExperiencesWhy More DJs Are Switching From Serato to Algorithm Right Now | Ep. 219
In this episode, we explore the evolving landscape of DJ technology, the pros and cons of working solo versus for a company, and share hilarious and insightful stories from the DJ world.
The System Behind A Great Wedding DJ | EP 218
The conversation covers topics related to wedding planning templates, social media hot topics, and musician frustrations. The hosts discuss the use of planning templates for wedding events, the engagement of social media hot topics, and the frustrations of working with musicians at events. The discussion provides insights into the challenges and strategies for managing these aspects of event management.
Takeaways
Wedding Planning TemplatesSocial Media Hot TopicsMusician FrustrationsChapters
00:00 Wedding Planning Templates10:59 Social Media Engagement24:09 Musician FrustrationsIce Cream Social at DJC | EP 217
The episode begins with the announcement of the winners of the jetpack giveaway. Announcement of DAFS Ice Cream Social at DJC, and a chance to win an opening slot. The conversation then shifts to a review of a new Denon controller, wireless sound transmission, live stems on a 3000, and venue expectations for DJs.
Takeaways
Jetpack giveaway winners announcedIce Cream Social at DJC announcement / Chance to openReview of new Denon controller and wireless sound transmissionLive stems on a 3000 and venue expectations for DJsChapters
00:00 Jetpack Giveaway Winners03:16 Ice Cream Social Announcement11:24...Prepping for Gigs & Managing DJs with Cream | EP 216
The episode features DJ Cream from New York City, who shares insights on his experience playing at Lollapalooza, prepping for gigs, and the evolution of the DJ community in New York. He also discusses his journey with Get Down DJs and offers advice on approaching booking requests. The conversation covers topics related to DJing, music production, and online presence. It emphasizes the importance of showcasing work through platforms like SoundCloud and Instagram, the use of technology tools like Serato and Record Box, and the significance of having a personal website. The discussion also touches on the value of being...
DJ Collective Talk with Joe Bunn & Brian B | EP 215
DAFS sit down with Brian B and Joe Bunn aka Beyond The DJ Booth Podcast aka the cofounders of the DJ Collective. We talk about the upcoming DJC Recharge being held in Raleigh NC. Come join us for some laughs.
Talking DJing World Cup & Social Media With Jack Kristian | Ep. 214
In this episode of The Drew and Fuse Show, weโre joined by DJ and content creator Jack Kristian for a deep dive into social media, branding, and what it really takes to stand out in todayโs DJ world. Jack shares the story of how he landed DJing at the World Cup, how he prepares music for different crowds and countries, and why he keeps his content focused on being authentic instead of chasing viral trends.We also get into the real-life challenges of growing a DJ business online โ from filtering serious inquiries to raising rates, booking the right...
Viral Hits & A.I. Slop | EP 213
This week the boys talk about the over use of AI to answer emails, create flyers and the use in social media. Drew rants. New Viral hits trending on TikTok and IG. They review recent weddings and talk music that worked in their sets and much more.
Top 100 Wedding Playlist Discussion Part 1 | EP 212
The episode begins with an introduction and housekeeping, followed by a discussion on the top 100 wedding song list provided by Patreon members. The hosts then delve into a detailed discussion on specific song edits and their suitability for weddings. The conversation delves into the evaluation of wedding dance floor songs, discussing personal preferences, regional trends, and the staying power of certain tracks. The hosts explore wordplay edits, remixes, and the impact of overplayed edits on song choices.
Vacations, DJs Assemble, Weddings | EP. 211
The conversation covers Fuse's European travel adventures, including their experiences in Portugal, Spain, and Ibiza. They also discuss DJs Assemble performance, and their new DJ equipment CDJ 3000, including the use of CDJs and USB sticks for DJing. Lastly they talk about recent weddings they've worked.
Gigs For Exposure & NDAs | EP 210
The episode the boys cover NDAs, "exposure" gigs, custom edits, and the use of new gear for events.
Wedding Talk with Krieger | EP. 209
The conversation delves into the significance of networking and industry involvement for wedding DJs, the unique requirements of high-end weddings, and the role of DJ conferences and associations in professional development and business growth. The conversation covers the importance of networking and trust in the DJ industry, the incorporation of saxophone into DJing, the value of simplicity and elegance in high-end events, the need to separate talent from equipment, and a discussion on new gear and DJing trends..
DJn Sober Weddings, Messy Crates, Burnout & More | EP. 208
Drew and Fuse discuss Burnout from working to much, organizing DJ software columns, DJn at a sober wedding. They ketchup talk about their upcoming vacation plans, cruise details, and DJ gigs. Lastly talk about top house tracks for summer and DMS top picks, Check out this weeks episode for much more.
Jetpack 15 Year Anniversary with DJ Stress | EP. 207
DAFS welcome the return of DJ Stress, the celebration of 15 years of Jetpack, Rapid Fire, Twitch, and Jetpack's future.
Wedding Setup Tips & Tricks ft. DJ Phlipz | EP. 206
The conversation covers a range of topics related to DJ setups and equipment, with a focus on ceremony, cocktail hour, and reception setups. The hosts and guest discuss innovative approaches to finding and using DJ gear, as well as tips and tricks for running successful setups. The conversation covers various aspects of event setup and equipment, including cocktail hour setup, reception setup, wireless speaker systems, and lighting systems. Each chapter delves into the specific details and considerations for each setup, providing valuable insights and tips for event professionals.
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Club vs. Wedding DJ: The Real Differences in Handling High-Stakes Events | EP. 205
In this episode Drew and Fuse discuss online rage bait post they see, and talk about their opinions on the matter. Fuse Rants about social media, and claims not all all content is good content. Tune in to hear more what the guys have to say.
Surviving the Tax Punch: Essential Tips for DJs | EP. 204
In this episode, Drew and Fuse discuss the importance of proper tax practices for DJs, including what expenses can be written off, how to organize finances, and the benefits of working with a CPA. They also share personal stories and tips for managing business expenses effectively.
How FITRADIO Chooses Music (with Head of Music Nora) | EP. 203
The episode features a discussion with Nora Morris, the music director at FITRADIO, about the app's role in the fitness industry and the curation of DJ mixes for workouts. The conversation delves into the challenges of selecting music for fitness classes, the importance of energy and tempo, and the creative process of curating mixes for a diverse audience. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the use of AI in music curation, the impact of BPM on energy levels, the importance of clean lyrics in fitness music, and the role of DJs in the fitness space. It...
Wedding Disaster | EP 202
The conversation covers a range of topics including Patreon giveaways, merchandise promotions, disaster stories, backup plans, music picks, and direct music service promotions. The hosts also discuss their recent experiences, including DJing events, promoting and hosting parties, and the importance of preparation and contingency planning.
Chapters
00:00- Introduction05:43- Main Topic15:33- DMS Top Picks25:05- KetchupAI Meme Songs, Shure Mic Giveaway | EP 201
The conversation covers promotional giveaways and discounts for paid Patreon members, the creation of a song list on Patreon for recommendations and contributions, the impact of AI meme songs on dance floors and the music industry, the future of music consumption and artist marketing strategies, and a review of recent music releases and DJ gig experiences.
DMS Picks
Drewย Picks
Anotr - ANOTR & 3DDY - Like ItHaddaway - What is Love (DE SOFFER Remix)Rihanna - No Love Allowed (Dennis Blaze Dancehall Remix / Clean) - Samples Barrington MurdererJohn Newman x S...Episode 200 with Guest DJ Scooter
The episode celebrates the 200th episode of the podcast and announces a giveaway for the listeners. The hosts discuss the giveaway details, the importance of being a paid member of their Patreon, and the significance of the prize. They also talk about wedding playlists, the changing trends in wedding music, and the relevance of certain artists and songs in the current music scene. The conversation covers DJ Scooter's experience at Stagecoach, the evolution of country music, the cultural impact of line dancing, and the announcement of a joint venture with Diplo in Nashville.
Wedding Prep & Prom Playlists | Ep. 199
The conversation covers the importance of preparation and professionalism in the DJ industry, highlighting the significance of being well-prepared for gigs and the impact of industry standards on the quality of service provided. It also delves into the recent Ableton 12.4 update and discusses a video featuring a venue owner's perspective on DJs. Additionally, the conversation explores the challenges of Wi-Fi availability and the necessity of DJ preparation for events. The conversation covers event preparation, safety concerns, equipment quality, power management, DJ setlist analysis, and key takeaways for event planning. It emphasizes the importance of being prepared and over-prepping for...
The Secret To Building a Good DJ Set & Michael Jacksons Top Hits | EP 198
Todays episode Drew and Fuse give away their secrets to building the best crate for weddings, clubs, and performances. Then they go over Michael Jacksons top hits
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview06:01 Building Playlists30:44 Exploring Michael Jackson's SongsTop 50 Dance Floor Hits | EP. 197
Fuse and Drew discuss their experiences at a secret DJ retreat, the benefits of their Patreon membership, and their thoughts on an AI-generated list of dance-friendly songs from the last five years. The conversation covers a range of topics including a review of the top 50 songs, condiment preferences, wedding experiences, club DJ experiences, and the exploration of Spanish music. The hosts also discuss the popularity and playability of various songs, share wedding anecdotes, and reflect on DJ experiences at a new club.
Chapters
00:00 The Secret DJ Retreat21:56 Reviewing the Top 50 Songs33:29 Ketchup vs. MustardTop 100 Wedding Dance Songs | EP. 196
The conversation covers a range of topics, including a Patreon giveaway, Bieber's Coachella performance, live performance and royalties, Drew's Neon Carnival experience, promotion of DMS and Patreon, and a detailed review of the top 100 songs list. The hosts also discuss specific songs and their relevance in DJ sets, providing insights into the preferences and considerations of DJs when selecting songs for different events. The conversation delves into the selection and preferences of music at events, considering the impact of crowd demographics and the use of clean or dirty versions of songs on the atmosphere.
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How DJ Tina T & Camp Spinoff Are Shaping Future DJs | EP. 195
The conversation covers the introduction and catching up with DJ Tina T, the impact of Camp Spinoff on teens, and the influence of AI on DJing and the evolving DJ landscape. The conversation covers the purpose and curriculum of DJ camps, the challenges and experiences of campers, the integration of DJing and dog training careers, and the transferable skills between the two fields. It also highlights the community support and sponsorship opportunities for DJ camps and programs.
Takeaways
Camp Spinoff's focus on teaching DJing, music production, and music business to teensThe impact of AI...New Music Hits With Even Steve | EP 194
The boys are back in town. Todays conversation covers DJ equipment, social media management, and music selections. Big shout out to Even Steve for being on the episode.Below are my edits.
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AI Algorithm vs. DJ Curation | EP 193
The conversation covers a range of topics including music industry conferences, the impact of AI in music production, relevance of music events to DJs, the role of DJs as tastemakers, and the influence of streaming platforms on music consumption. Additionally, the discussion delves into the challenges of music promotion, the evolving role of radio, and the use of AI in beat making. The conversation also touches on tech news related to Rekordbox updates and USB compatibility, as well as a catch-up on St. Patrick's Day, DJ performances, and upcoming events.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Patreon...Serato 4.0.4 with Full Spotify Playlist Control | EP 192
The episode begins with a tribute to a friend, Mike D, who passed away, followed by a discussion about the new Serato 4.0.4 update and its integration with Spotify. The hosts also talk about their recent DJ gigs and events, as well as the upcoming price increase for their Patreon subscription.
Takeaways
Tribute to Mike DSerato 4.0.4 update and Spotify integrationDiscussion about DJ gigs and eventsUpcoming price increase for Patreon subscriptionChapters
00:00 Mike D Tribute02:53 Serato 4.0.4 Update and Spotify Integration12:17 Social Media19:00 KetchupNew Macs, DJ Influencers, and Mini Bikes | EP 191
The episode covers a range of topics, from the viral TikTok impersonator trend to tech discussions about Apple's leasing program. It also delves into the OneWheel Antic Bike, DJ influencers and social media, and music picks and new releases. The hosts share insights, experiences, and recommendations across these diverse themes.
Takeaways
Viral trends on social media can provide entertaining and unique contentApple's leasing program offers benefits for businesses and individualsInfluencer content should be evaluated for authenticity and credibilityNew music releases and artist impressions can provide valuable insights for DJs and music enthusiasts<...Beatsource & Beatport Merging As One | EP 190
Episode 190 Drew and Fuse discuss Beatsource and Beatport merging as one. They are talk about this along with new Apple mac laptops, DMS Top picks and much more. 0:00 - Intro 3:02 - News 14:18 - Technology 22:04 - Social Media 28:55 - DMS Top Picks DAFS CORPORATE PARTY CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/2-fuse-corporate-152106217?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ๐ Stay Connected With Us. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Drew...
Are DJ Conferences Dying? | EP 189
Episode 189. Drew and Fuse recap Las Vegas MEX conference, DMS party, If you need clean or dirty songs, and DMS top picks. Tune in and check out the newest episode! 0:00 - Las Vegas MEX review, DMS Party 12:15 - Social Media Topic 25:47 - DMS Top Picks of the Week DAFS OPEN FORMAT CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dafs-cheat-sheet-148150833?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ๐ Stay Connected With U...
Nick Spinelli vs. DJ Barr vs. Drew and Fuse Discuss Do Not Play Lists | EP 187
Episode 187. Drew and Fuse bring on special guests Nick Spinelli and DJ Barr to talk about wedding do not play lists. Tune in and check out the newest episode! 0:00 - Intro / Grammyโs 8:25 - Nick Spinelli x DJ Barr x DAFS - Do Not Play List DAFS OPEN FORMAT CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dafs-cheat-sheet-148150833?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ๐ Stay Connected With Us. Facebook...
A Discussion With The Bungalow DJs | EP 188
Episode 188. Drew talks to the entire Bungalow DJ crew along with Jen Rosero. They talk all things DJn, How to get a gig, requests, old stories from Jen and much more. DAFS OPEN FORMAT CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dafs-cheat-sheet-148150833?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ๐ Stay Connected With Us. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrewAndFuseShow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drewandfuseshow/ TikTok: https://www.ti...
Do Not Play List ft. DJ Barr & Nick Spinelli | EP 187
Episode 187. Drew and Fuse bring on special guests Nick Spinelli and DJ Barr to talk about wedding do not play lists. Tune in and check out the newest episode! 0:00 - Intro / Grammyโs 8:25 - Nick Spinelli x DJ Barr x DAFS - Do Not Play List DAFS OPEN FORMAT CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dafs-cheat-sheet-148150833?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ๐ Stay Connected With Us. Facebook...
Wedding Do Not Play List | EP 186
Episode 186. The boys talk about wedding do not play lists. They recap the grammy's, give their DMS picks of the week and catchup with what's going on in their worlds. Tune in and check out the newest episode! 0:00 - Intro / Grammyโs 8:30- Main Topic 24:23 - DMS Top Picks 29:47 - Ketchup DAFS OPEN FORMAT CHEAT SHEET LINK: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dafs-cheat-sheet-148150833?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link ๐๐๐จ๐ง'๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐ฎ๐๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐๐ก๐๐ง๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ฌ. https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndFuseShow/?sub_confirmation=1 โญโญโญAudio Podcast is currently on your favourite platforms: Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1VoydyUgcWGkS5zrBIAKem?si=dc6565b7574b456a&nd=1&dlsi=6260729e5792465f ApplePodcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/drew-and-fuse-show/id1588956480 ...
