Live Like It's True {Bible Podcast}
Know the story, share the story, live the story. In each episode, Shannon Popkin and her guest talk through one of the most interesting or astonishing stories (narratives) of the Bible, and how to live like it's true.  Shannon is the author of six books, and speaks regularly for Christian women's retreats, conferences, and events. Shannon lives with her family in West Michigan. Learn more at www.shannonpopkin.com.Â
How to Move from Routine Faith to Genuine Delight | Stephanie Rousselle | John 12
 Has your faith begun to feel dull, routine, and tired? Stephanie Rousselle joins me to explore her new book, Awaken Delight, and to talk about Mary’s extravagant act of worship in John 12. We’ll discover why love can’t be forced, how Scripture can become a feast, and how lingering in Jesus’ presence awakens our hearts to love Him more.Â
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Check out Stephanie's book, Awaken Delight: Satisfying Your Soul's Longing for God, on Shannon's recommendation list here.Â
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The Truth Behind Mary's Beautiful Worship | Cheryl Marshall | Luke 1
Mary’s “yes” to God wasn’t a one-time moment. It was a whole life of surrender. What might that kind of worship look like in our ordinary lives?
Cheryl Marshall returns to Live Like It’s True to continue our conversation about Mary and Cheryl’s book, All of Me. Together, we explore worship that goes beyond our words and songs to include everyday faithfulness, private prayer, and trusting God when life is hard.
Mary’s story invites us to offer our whole lives to God, saying, “You lead, I’ll follow.”
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The Truth Behind Mary's Beautiful Sacrifice | Cheryl Marshall | Luke 1
What does it look like to worship God with your whole life—even when most days feel ordinary?
Cheryl Marshall joins Live Like It’s True to discuss her book, All of Me, and what Mary, the mother of Jesus, teaches us about a life surrendered to God. Together, we explore how God’s mercy fuels surrender and how everyday faithfulness becomes an offering of worship.
Mary’s response, “Let it be to me according to your word,” was a courageous expression of trust. Her story invites us to consider how we, too, can say yes to God i...
Elisabeth Elliot: Why Hard Things Offer Good Missionary Training | Megan Hill | Luke 2
What might Elisabeth Elliot have in common with Anna of the Bible? More than you might think!
Megan Hill returns to Live Like It’s True to discuss her new children’s book about Elisabeth Elliot and how God uses hardship to shape a faithful life. Growing up, Elisabeth’s parents called life’s difficulties “GMT”—“Good Missionary Training.” Those hard things were opportunities to learn to trust God and prepare for whatever He had ahead.
Both Elisabeth and Anna experienced loss, disappointment, and long stretches of waiting, yet both trusted God when life didn't go as planned. Com...
How to be Part of What Jesus Started | Ellen Vaughn | Acts 2
Do you think of your church as a comfortable gathering of people who are just like you and who enjoy the same things you do and have the same political views and preferences you have? "The world has those," says New York Times Bestselling author, Ellen Vaughn. "They're called clubs. The church is different!"Â
Join me on the Live Like It's True Podcast for a conversation with Ellen Vaughn about what Jesus started in Acts 2. Learn how He's still building it today, and how you can be part.Â
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Is it Very Good to be a Girl? | Jen Oshman | Gen. 1-3
What does it really mean to be a woman—and what does God’s design have to do with it?
In part 2 of our conversation on the Live Like it's True podcast, Jen Oshman and I explore what the Bible has to say about being a woman. As we dig into Genesis's description of God’s hands-on craftsmanship, you'll see why the distinction between male and female matters and how these foundational truths shape your identity and purpose in your community.
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Why Humans Are More Valuable Than Puppies | Jen Oshman | Gen. 1
What does it really mean to be made in the image of God—and why are people more valuable than, say... puppies?
In this episode, I’m joined by Jen Oshman to talk about her new Bible study on biblical womanhood. As we dig into Genesis and the beautiful truth that every human being is made in God’s image, we'll explore how this shapes our identity, our dignity, and the way we live out our faith.
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Check out Jen's book, Very Good, on Shannon's recommendation list HERE.
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New Hope for Your Prodigal When You Feel Judged | Erica Wiggenhorn | Luke 15
When a child walks away, a mother’s heart doesn’t stop loving—it starts longing. 💔
This conversation with Erica Wiggenhorn reminded me that the “messy middle” isn’t wasted. God is still working, still waiting, still making a way back.If you’re carrying grief, shame, or righteous indignation, you’re not alone.Â
The Father of Luke 15 shows us what love looks like when the story is still unfinished: watch, wait, pray, and keep holding the chair. Check out Erica's new book, Loving Your Wayward Child, in Shannon's Amazon Storefront HERE.
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Pt 2: Jesus is the Great Savior of Great Sinners Like Us | Lindsay Schott | The Cross
 Shame says your sin is too great, but the cross reveals Jesus as the even greater savior. Lindsay Schott joins me on the Live Like It's True podcast for the final episode of the Judgy series. Come and take in the truth about your sin, displayed on a cross—and the more astonishing mercy of your loving Savior.Â
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Pt 1: What Really Happened at the Cross? Jesus' Astonishing Mercy | Lindsay Schott | Luke 23
What actually happened when Jesus died on a cross? Why was it so brutal? What was astonishing about his prayer? And what's the significance of him dying between two criminals?
Lindsay Schott is back for a two-part episode to close out our Judgy Series with a conversation about the cross and why it's both worse and better than you thought.
Luke 23, The Crucifixion
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How to be Curious (not Judgy) With Your Adult Kids | Michelle Nietert
When you're tempted to judge your adult kids for their choices or behaviors, how should you respond? Michelle Nietert coaches us on how to lead with curiosity, not judgment. Get input for how to lean in with curiosity over that issue you're noticing with your young adult or teen.
Ignoring truth or enabling harmful behavior isn't the answer. Instead, how can you make room for God to work over time?
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(Pt. 2) A Heart of Contempt: What This Means & How to Stop | Leith Hoggard
Leith Hoggard joins Shannon on the Live Like It's True podcast to talk about the difference between disgust for sin and a heart full of contempt—and how this relates to being "kinda judgy." Leith brings her wisdom as a Bible teacher, Bible study author, and one-on-one counselor and shares how we can identify the contempt in our own hearts and apply the mercy we've first received from Christ.
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(Pt. 1) A Heart of Contempt: What This Means & How to Stop | Leith Hoggard
 Leith Hoggard joins Shannon on the Live Like It's True podcast to talk about the difference between disgust for sin and a heart full of contempt—and how this relates to being "kinda judgy." Leith brings her wisdom as a Bible teacher, Bible study author and one on one counselor and shares how we can identify the contempt in our own hearts and apply the mercy we've first received from Christ.Â
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Do You Want to be Free of Body-Shape Judging? | Susie Renzema
Do you want to be free of body-shape judging? In this episode of the Live Like It's True Podcast, Shannon Popkin and Susie Renzema examine why we judge bodies—our own and others'—and how God's mercy frees us from shame, comparison, and criticism. Susie shares her personal journey through body image struggles, disordered eating, and spiritual renewal, along with practical ways to reflect Christ's mercy in everyday life.
 Susie Renzema is a Bible teacher who—two decades ago—rebuilt her faith on the bedrock of the Holy Scriptures. With her LetteringHisLove.com Scripture...
Announcing Her Sin From the Pulpit: One Woman's Painful Story
Have you ever wondered whether the church is a safe place for people with messy stories? Do some sins seem more forgivable than others?
Julie* joins Shannon to share the story behind the chapter featured in Kinda Judgy. She opens up about her unplanned pregnancy, the shame she experienced, the day she stood before her church to read a public confession, and how she eventually discovered that God's mercy was far greater than her guilt.
Together, they look at Jesus's encounters with Rahab and the sinful woman at Simon's table, discovering how His...
The Better Judge Who Likes it When You Persist | Hope Blanton + Christine Gordon | Luke 18
Is there a situation in your life that just isn't right? Are you frustrated by the injustice of it all? Do you feel like God must be plugging His ears to your prayers?
Jesus told a story that shows how much our Judge loves our audacity—our chutzpah—our relentless asking. He doesn't just want polite prayers; He invites us to come boldly with our needs, doubts, and frustrations.
Bible Passage: Luke 18:1-8 - The Parable of the Persistent Widow
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(Part 6) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: The Fiery Door
Here's part six of a fictional story I wrote called The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge. It's an allegory that serves as a companion to Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers!! (Order your copy here.)
Through the imaginative setting of the Grand Courtroom of the World, revisit the same six Bible stories featured in the book—Noah, Rahab, Jonah, the sinful woman, the blind man, and the criminal on the cross—and encounter the same unchanging Judge of All.Â
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(Part 5) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: Honey Path to the Wrong Door (Pharisees)
Here's part five of a fictional story I wrote called The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge. It's an allegory that serves as a companion to Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers!! (Order your copy here.)
Through the imaginative setting of the Grand Courtroom of the World, revisit the same six Bible stories featured in the book—Noah, Rahab, Jonah, the sinful woman, the blind man, and the criminal on the cross—and encounter the same unchanging Judge of All.Â
My hope...
(Part 4) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: The Missing Chair (Simon)
Here's part four of a fictional story I wrote called The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge. It's an allegory that serves as a companion to Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers!! (Order your copy here.)
Through the imaginative setting of the Grand Courtroom of the World, revisit the same six Bible stories featured in the book—Noah, Rahab, Jonah, the sinful woman, the blind man, and the criminal on the cross—and encounter the same unchanging Judge of All.Â
My hope...
(Part 3) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: The Tipped Cake (Jonah)
Here's part three of a fictional story I wrote called The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge. It's an allegory that serves as a companion to Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers!! (Order your copy here.)
Through the imaginative setting of the Grand Courtroom of the World, revisit the same six Bible stories featured in the book—Noah, Rahab, Jonah, the sinful woman, the blind man, and the criminal on the cross—and encounter the same unchanging Judge of All.
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(Part 2) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: The White Hanky (Rahab)
Here's part two of a fictional story I wrote called The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge. It's an allegory that serves as a companion to Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers!! (Order your copy here.)
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...Who’s Really Blind? When Judgment Replaces Seeing The Truth | Glenna Marshall | John 9
What if the people most certain they see Jesus are the ones missing Him entirely?
In this episode of the Live Like It's True podcast, Glenna Marshall and I dive into John 9, exploring the healing of the man born blind and the danger of rule-driven faith. Together, we unpack spiritual blindness, church power dynamics, and the freedom found in humility and grace.
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(Part 1) The Two Doors & the Merciful Judge: The Golden Key (Noah)
Tomorrow is launch day for Kinda Judgy: Finding Mercy for Myself and Others in Six Stories of the Bible—my new book releasing with Moody Publishers.
I'm celebrating by sharing something special with you!
Over the next six episodes, I'll be sharing The Two Doors and the Merciful Judge, an allegory I wrote as a companion to Kinda Judgy. Through the imaginative setting of the Grand Courtroom of the World, we'll revisit the same six Bible stories featured in the book—Noah, Rahab, Jonah, the sinful woman, the blind man, and the criminal on the cros...
The Way to be Free of Judging and Feeling Judged | Felicity Carswell | Luke 18
Judgy people distance themselves and look down on others. But the surprise in the Bible is what actually makes someone righteous. In this episode of Live Like It's True, Felicity Carswell and I talk about the Pharisee and the Tax Collector from Luke 18 and share some of our own stories of being confronted with self-reliance.
The truth is, none of us are righteous. We all need mercy. And when we receive it—when we go home justified, we're also free of judging ourselves against other people. Â
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Are My Parents Toxic? The Truth about Going "No Contact" | Bill and Pam Farrel
Going "no contact" is a trend today—the idea that adult kids must cut ties with their parents for the sake of healing and self-care. But how does that line up with Jesus’ command to "not judge" and "be merciful" (Luke 6:36)?
In this episode, relationship experts Bill and Pam Farrel share biblical wisdom and real-life insight on how to honestly evaluate your parents without canceling them, how to navigate painful family dynamics with both truth and love, and how to honor God’s design for generations—built on bridges, not burned ones.
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Boundaries Or Walls? How To Wisely Love Your Toxic Parent | Bill and Pam Farrel
You’ve heard of boundaries and canceling relationships because “I have to do what’s best for me.” But are these boundaries—or walls? Bill and Pam Farrel show us a new, cancel-free way to do boundaries as they tell the story of pursuing relationship with Pam’s alcoholic father and Bill’s very controlling mom.
In a world of people going "no contact" and burning bridges between generations, Bill and Pam Farrel invite us to pursue relationships across generations instead of burning bridges.
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Part 1: Are M...What Happened When They Chose to Love (Not Cancel) Toxic Family Members | Bill and Pam Farrel
At one point, Bill was so angry with his mom that he decided to go, "no contact." But here's the story of what stopped him and what happened when he and Pam chose to love (not cancel) parents who would have been considered "toxic" by many.Â
Listen as Bill and Pam share a beautiful multi-generational story of redemption, love, and hope.Â
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Part 1: Are My Parents Toxic? The Truth about Going "No Contact"Part 2: Boundaries Or Walls? How To Wisely Love Your Toxi...The Truth About Pharisee-Types & How to Break Free | Libby VanSolkema | Luke 6
Have you been secretly judging some other mom, your sister, a neighbor or friend? Are you stuck in a constant rule-keeping mindset? Are you a judgy Pharisee-type who'd like to break free? Â
My friend and pastor's wife Libby VanSolkema describes herself as a "Recovering Pharisee" and I can relate. In our conversation about Luke 6, we're exploring Jesus’ surprising response to the Pharisees after the disciples pluck grain on the Sabbath, Let's flip on the lights and expose our own legalism which is the first step to freedom and transformation.Â
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When You Feel Judged By the Church People | Libby VanSolkema | Luke 6
Ever been judged by church people? Jesus has, too. Today, my friend and pastor’s wife, Libby VanSolkema, is back to talk about how Jesus responded when legalism crept into the synagogue—the first-century version of church life.
We’ll explore what judgment does to us—and how compassion restores us to the heart of God. Join us on Live Like It’s True.
We titled part one of the conversation: The Truth About Pharisee-Types & How to Break Free
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When Your In-Law is "Wrong" & You Want To Judge | Stacy Reaoch
Is your relationship with your mother-in-law or daughter-in-law difficult? Is she doing it all wrong? Are you fiercely tempted to judge?
In this episode, Stacey Reaoch joins me for a heartfelt conversation about how expectations and backgrounds can threaten the tender relationship between mother-in-law and daughter-in-law.Â
Get some biblical wisdom on mending difficult relationships and cultivating peace.
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Breakthrough Wisdom When You'd Rather Just Avoid Your Mother-in-Law | Stacy Reaoch
Do you assume that your mother-in-law / daughter-in-law relationship is doomed to fail? Are you avoiding her and pulling away?
In this conversation, Stacey Reaoch joins me to explore the complex relationship between mother-in-law and daughter-in-law.Â
Sharing thoughts from her book, Making Room for Her, Stacey and I talk about some breakthrough practices from the Bible to create connection and cultivate love.
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When You Resent God's Huge Gift Of Mercy to Them | Erika Van Haitsma | Jonah 1
Why did Jonah run from God’s call—and what does that reveal about our own hearts?
In this episode of Live Like It’s True, Erika Van Haitsma joins me to unpack the irony and intensity of Jonah’s story, exposing his deep resentment toward the Ninevites and resistance to God’s mercy. Together, we explore how this familiar narrative challenges us to confront our own grudges and ask whether we truly want God to be gracious—to everyone.
Bible Passage: Jonah's Disobedience - Jonah 1 (NASB)
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The Offense of God’s Astonishing Mercy For that Loathsome Person | Erika VanHaitsma | Jonah 2-4
Are there certain people who disgust you? Are there those you have a hard time showing compassion to? What if God lavishes those loathsome people with His mercy?
That's what happened to Jonah. Listen in on part two of my conversation with Erika VanHaitsma and learn from a prophet who was disgusted by God's mercy and blind to his own need for grace.
Bible Passage: Jonah's Prayer & Displeasure - Jonah 2-4 (NASB)
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She just wanted it to go away. She didn't want to be judged as one of "those" kind of girls. Yet in the parking lot of the abortion clinic, Tammy thought, "What have I done?" The new judgment and condemnation she felt didn't go away. Â
In this episode, Tammy De Armas shares her personal journey through unplanned pregnancy, abortion, and the lasting impact on her life. Listen in and explore the weight of judgment and the healing of God's mercy.
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Finding God's Mercy and Healing After an Abortion | Tammy De Armas
She thought the pain would end with her choice, but instead it lingered. And while she tried to push it aside, there came a time where she could do so no longer.
In this episode, Tammy De Armas opens up about her journey through abortion, the shame that followed, and the slow road to healing. Listen in and discover how mercy transforms even our most broken stories.
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From Judgy to Curious: One Foster Mom's Breakthrough | Beth Guckenberger
Beth's one foster daughter was more work than her other eight kids combined. She had tried everything... but she hadn't tried this. Hear about Beth's breakthrough that began with trading judgy criticism for curiosity and compassion.
In this conversation, Beth Guckenberger reminds us that the gospel frees us to see people through God’s eyes, which shifts our hearts and our relationships and opens the door for influence.
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The Surprise of Mercy When You Side With God | Lisa Appelo | Rahab
Do you feel "disqualified" from receiving God's mercy? Are you stuck in shame over your past, or particular sins? Or is there someone else you think of as disqualified?Â
Lisa Appelo joins me for a conversation about Rahab, the prostitute, and the surprise of God's mercy when she chose to side with Him. This story shows that none of us is too far gone for God to redeem.
Bible Passage: Rahab Hides the Spies - Joshua 2:1-13 NKJV
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 What stories have you heard about God? Would you be shocked to know that He rescued one woman who was a prostitute from a city He was about to destroy? In this episode, Lisa Appelo and I explore Rahab’s bold faith, God’s stunning mercy, and the hope it offers to anyone with a broken past. Her story reminds us that no one is too far gone for God’s grace.Â
Bible Passage: Rahab Hides the Spies - Joshua 2:1-13 NKJV
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What if I find the flood kind of offensive? What if it makes me uncomfortable? If Jesus is kind and forgiving, how can God just end everybody?Â
Lindsay Schott joins me to explore the flood narrative, where God grieves over human wickedness but also offers mercy through rescue. Lindsay shares how God transformed her judgy heart and gave her more compassion, and we talked about how trust is admitting God knows more than we do.Â
Bible Passage: Noah and the Flood - Genesis 6-9
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From New Age to New Life: One Woman's Amazing Story | Kara Seymour
Kara Seymour was deeply entrenched in the New Age movement as a Kundalini yogi. She was also thoroughly convinced that Christians were judgmental, boring, and brainwashed. So she was as surprised as anyone when she met a group of Christian women who became her new best friends.
I can't wait for you to hear her amazing story of transformation, the judgment she felt outside and inside the Church, and how her relationship with Jesus has changed her life.
We're kicking off our Judgy series, where we're looking at stories of judgment and mercy from the...