This is Yoga Therapy

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By: Michele Lawrence

This podcast is a venue for sharing topics in the field of yoga therapy today. Whether you are a yoga teacher, yoga therapist, healthcare provider or individual with curiosity, this is the the place to learn about the latest ideas, personal healing stories, research and work that is cutting edge, and making a difference.

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Turning Anxiety from Enemy to Ally with Antonio Sausys
#37
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What if anxiety isn’t an enemy to conquer, but a protective messenger asking for our attention? In a modern landscape where chronic tension, social ambiguity, and constant stimulation have made anxiety feel like society’s default baseline, trying to eliminate anxious sensations is often the wrong therapeutic goal.

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with her long-time teacher, colleague, and friend, Antonio Sausys, MA, CMT, C-IAYT—somatic psychotherapist, author of Yoga for Grief Relief, and pioneer in integrative mind-body health. Drawing from his featured article in Yoga Therap...


Thriving Together with Erin Alexander
#36
10/12/2026

In this episode, host Michele Lawrence sits down with certified yoga therapist, Inner Peace Yoga Therapy graduate, and founder of Soul Power Sangha, Erin Alexander. Grounded in Erin’s article in the Summer 2026 issue of Yoga Therapy Today—"Thriving Together: Healing Through Posttraumatic Growth and Sangha in Personal Challenge, Postwar Uganda, and a U.S. Women’s Shelter"—this heartfelt conversation examines why individual practice alone cannot replace social safety, what indigenous communal wisdom reveals about stress resilience, and how clinicians can create trauma-informed healing containers.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

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Experiential Anatomy with Leila Stuart
#35
09/27/2026

In traditional education and clinical settings, anatomy is typically taught from the outside in: Latin terminology, mechanical levers, origins, and insertions. But reciting muscle attachments does not heal a dysregulated nervous system or chronic somatic pain.

In this episode, host Michele Lawrence sits down with pioneering yoga therapist and author Leila Stuart to explore the shift from intellectual, structural anatomy to living, experiential inquiry. Leila breaks down how reclaiming a felt sense of our tissues and bones serves as the foundation for autonomic regulation, emotional resilience, and deep trauma-informed healing.

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Connecting Beyond Words: Yoga Therapy for Caregivers, Dementia, and Brain Health with Denyse Le Fever
#34
09/13/2026

What happens to human connection when speech, memory, and cognitive faculties begin to fade?

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with colleague Denyse LeFever, MBA, C-IAYT, a certified yoga therapist specializing in healthy aging, cancer support, and cognitive longevity.

Denyse recently authored the chapter "Connecting With Those Who Forget" in the newly released The Caregiver’s Advocate (Volume 3). In her writing and in this conversation, Denyse shares a raw, intimate look at navigating caregiving from two distinct vantage points: first as a daughter witnessing her brilliant fa...


Applying Therapeutic Yoga in Integrative Health with Amy Wheeler and Marlysa Sullivan
#33
08/31/2026

How does yoga therapy interface with modern healthcare systems, and what does it take to establish evidence-informed mind-body practices as standard clinical care?

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with visionary educators and researchers Dr. Amy Wheeler, PhD, C-IAYT, and Dr. Marlysa Sullivan, DPT, C-IAYT. Together, they explore the release of their ground-breaking new textbook, Applying Therapeutic Yoga in Integrative Health.

Amy and Marlysa unpack the systemic shifts occurring across medicine, how to clearly communicate the clinical scope of yoga therapy to conventional providers...


Neuroscience and Yogic Chanting with Dr. Gemma Perry
#32
08/17/2026

Can vocal chanting and intentional vibration measurably alter our neurobiology? In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with scientist, researcher, and educator Dr. Gemma Perry. Dr. Perry shares findings from her doctoral research on the physiological and psychological mechanisms of chanting—from vagal nerve stimulation and heart rate variability to stress reduction and social connection.

We discuss:

The Neurobiology of Vibration: What happens to the brain and autonomic nervous system when we chant.Combating Chronic Sympathetic Arousal: Specific physiological shifts that counteract modern corporate bu...


Somatic Presence: 40 Years of Phoenix Rising Yoga Therapy with Michael Lee
#31
08/03/2026

Long before yoga therapy was recognized by mainstream healthcare institutions, Michael Lee, MA, Dip.Psych, C-IAYT, was pioneering an internationally acclaimed method that bridged classical yoga, depth psychology, and body-centered awareness. In 1986, he founded Phoenix Rising Yoga Therapy, establishing a lineage that uses the body as a direct gateway to emotional and mental liberation.

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Michael to reflect on four decades of his work in this field. Together, they explore how integrating Rogerian person-centered psychology with yoga creates a powerful...


Nervous System Regulation in Clinical Practice with Meredith Phipps
#30
07/20/2026

When someone has experienced trauma, chronic stress, or progressive illness, their own physical body can start to feel like an unsafe environment. They often report feeling disconnected from or even "betrayed" by their physical shape. How do we help clients shift out of a constant, cellular state of survival and return to a state of safety, trust, and connection?

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Meredith Phipps, C-IAYT, founder of Essentia Yoga Therapy. Meredith masterfully weaves together traditional yoga therapy, somatic practices, and polyvagal theory to help...


Yoga Therapy in Mainstream Medical Care with Jen Peterson
#29
07/13/2026

After sustaining a severe back injury, yoga therapist Jen Peterson, C-IAYT, found herself completely ostracized by modern, fitness-based studio spaces that prioritized rigid, hyper-flexible physical shapes. That turning point sparked a lifelong vow: to champion the truth that the pose is meant to serve the body—not the other way around.

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Jen Peterson, C-IAYT, an Ayurvedic Health Counselor, Reiki Master, and the founder of Yoga Grace. Jen beautifully splits her time between her private practice and working as an integrated provider at...


Sleep Simplified with Monica Le Baron
#28
07/06/2026

What if the secret to your next professional breakthrough isn't doing more—but mastering the art of the somatic off-switch?

In a high-intensity culture that treats "the hustle" and sleep deprivation as badges of honor, ambitious women are facing a quiet epidemic of chronic exhaustion, nighttime panic, and the dreaded 3:00 AM wake-up call. In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Monica Le Baron, MBA, C-IAYT, a globally recognized sleep expert, certified yoga therapist, and the bestselling author of Sleep Simplified.

Monica beautifully bridges the ga...


Yoga for Special Needs with Renata Sumar Gaertner
#27
06/29/2026

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Renata Sumar Gaertner, C-IAYT, the director and lead teacher of Yoga for All Abilities, carrying forward her mother’s legendary Sonia Sumar Method.

Renata began her yoga journey at just three years old and completed her first Hatha training at twelve. Raised alongside her sister, Roberta, who was born with Down Syndrome, Renata witnessed firsthand the profound developmental power of an individualized practice. Bridging her lifelong lineage roots with a degree in Speech Therapy and a postgraduate specialization in La...


Mantra as Therapeutic Practice with Melissa Shah
#26
06/15/2026

What happens when traditional public health science meets ancestral wisdom? In this episode, host Michele Lawrence sits down with Melissa Shah, MPH, C-IAYT, the founder of Find Your Breath, to explore the intersection of modern healthcare, lineage reclamation, and the physiological power of sound. Melissa breaks down the Western misconceptions surrounding mantra, reclaiming it as a potent, therapeutic practice.  Whether you are a healthcare provider looking to expand your somatic toolkit or an advanced yoga teacher committed to honoring the true roots of the practice, this episode serves as a vital blueprint for the future of culturally respectful, therapeutic c...


Healthspan, Equanimity, and the Big 3 of Aging with Baxter Bell
#25
06/01/2026

What does it mean to age well? In 2026, the conversation has officially shifted from lifespan—how many years we live—to healthspan—how well we live those years. In this episode, host Michele Lawrence sits down with pioneering medical doctor and certified yoga therapist Dr. Baxter Bell to discuss the intersection of Western medicine and yoga.

Baxter shares his personal evolution from working as a busy family physician in the 1990s to stepping onto the mat full-time as a global leader in the yoga therapy community. Together, they dive into the medical science behind why strength, flexibility, and ba...


Beyond the "Fix": Intuitive Movement, Radical Acceptance, and the Terms of Healing with Sherry Brourman
#24
05/18/2026

What happens when we stop trying to "fix" our bodies and instead learn to negotiate our own terms of healing?

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, host Michele Lawrence sits down with legendary movement educator, physical therapist, and yoga therapist Sherry Brourman, PT, C-IAYT. With an astonishing 53 years of clinical experience, Sherry shares her profound evolution from the rigid, biomechanical silos of 1970s physical therapy into the compassionate, integrated world of modern pain science and yoga therapy.

Diving into her recent book, From Bodily Knowledge to Intuitive Movement: Where Physical Therapy, Yoga Therapy...


Your Yoga is too Small with Lizzie Lasater
#23
05/04/2026

What happens when a legacy of "radical rest" meets the modern era of constant noise? In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, Michele Lawrence sits down with Lizzie Lasater—Restorative Yoga teacher, architect by training, and a vital voice in the evolution of modern yoga.

As her mother, yoga pioneer Judith Hanson Lasater, prepares to retire at age 80, Lizzie reflects on the longevity of a teacher, the structural integrity of a healing practice, and why slowing down is actually an act of civil disobedience. We explore how restorative yoga serves as the "ur...


Sacred Success with Erin Alexander and Katie Pine
#22
04/20/2026

Are you a brilliant yoga teacher or therapist who feels paralyzed when it comes to the business side of your practice? You’ve done the trainings, you have the heart, and you’re ready to reduce suffering—but the logistics of running a viable business feel like a separate, cold world.

In this episode, Michele sits down with Erin Alexander and Katie Pine, both graduates of Inner Peace Yoga Therapy and co-creators of the Sacred Success Mentorship. Together, they explore how to stop info-hoarding and start taking embodied action. We dive into w...


Why Historical Context Matters in Yoga Therapy with Tova Olsson
#21
04/06/2026

What happens when deep academic study meets 20 years of dedicated practice? In this episode, Michele sits down with Tova Olsson, a religious studies scholar, author, and PhD candidate at UmeĂĄ University. Known for her "user-friendly" approach to yoga and tantra studies, Tova explains how mythology serves as a mirror for our "stuckness," why humor is an essential ingredient for spiritual growth, and how the Tantric view of the body can transform a yoga therapy session.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

The 'Scholar-Practitioner' Balance: How historical context and academic rigor can a...


Menopause Yoga with Petra Coveney
#20
03/23/2026

This episode is a vital deep dive into a life transition that has been underserved and misunderstood for far too long. Michele sits down with Petra Coveney, the pioneering founder of Menopause Yoga™ and author of the new book, Menopause Yoga and Wellbeing.

Together, they explore why standard yoga often falls short during the menopausal transition and how a specialized, therapeutic approach—rooted in both endocrinology and the Five Koshas—can transform a woman’s experience from one of "deficiency" to a powerful "Second Spring."

In This Episode, We Discu...


The Lens of Dignity: Capturing the Beauty of Healing with Robert Sturman
#19
03/16/2026

This episode is an exploration of what it means to be truly seen. Michele sits down with world-renowned photographer and yoga practitioner Robert Sturman to discuss the intersection of art, trauma, and the human spirit. Robert doesn’t just document yoga; he captures what he calls "figurative poetry." From the halls of maximum-security prisons to the lives of breast cancer survivors and veterans living with PTSD, Robert’s lens serves as a mirror for dignity, helping his subjects reclaim their wholeness.


In This Episode, We Discuss:

The Power of Being Seen...


The Issues in the Tissues with Nikki Myers
#18
03/09/2026

In this episode, I sit down with the legendary Nikki Myers—MBA, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, and founder of Y12SR: The Yoga of 12-Step Recovery. Nikki has spent decades at the crossroads of addiction recovery and somatic wisdom, teaching us that while the 12-Step meetings provide the "cognitive map," the yoga mat provides the "somatic laboratory" for true healing.

We dive deep into the soul-level work of recovery, discussing how to come home to a body that has been through the fire. If you have ever felt like your body was an unsafe pla...


A Necessary Joy with Mark Gardett
#17
03/02/2026

In this soul-stirring conversation, I am joined by Mark Gardett, PhD, a yoga scholar, teacher, and author of the transformative new book, A Necessary Joy: Yoga and the Quest for Transformation.

Mark sits at the powerful intersection of trans identity and ancient yogic philosophy. Together, we explore the idea that "transness" is not just a destination, but a spiritual practice of expansion—one that mirrors the yogic journey toward the unchanging Self (Atman). Whether you are navigating a gender transition, a career shift, or the "identity injury" of trauma, this episode serves as a...


Yoga for Chronic Illness: Living Well vs. Seeking a Cure with Kayla Kurin
#16
02/15/2026

What happens when the goal of yoga isn't to "fix" or "cure," but to navigate the complex reality of a chronic condition with grace, humor, and agency? In this episode, we are joined by bestselling author and health journalist Kayla Kurin.

Kayla shares her global journey of navigating 50+ countries while managing chronic health issues, offering a refreshing perspective on how storytelling, comedy, and travel can reshape our identity. We dive deep into the intersection of journalism and somatic health, exploring how to live an expansive life right now, exactly as you are.

We...


The Earth as Co-Therapist with Carrie Asby
#15
02/01/2026

In this  episode, Michele Lawrence sits down with wellness coach, author, and ecotherapy trailblazer Carrie Asby to explore the profound journey of remembering our connection to the wild. In an age dominated by digital noise and perfection burnout, Carrie invites us to move toward the power of presence by making nature a formal partner in our healing work.

We dive deep into how Ecotherapy serves as a clinical bridge for the nervous system, transforming routine movement into sacred ritual. Whether you are a yoga therapist looking for new somatic tools or a busy p...


Holistic Prana with Radhika Mukhija
#14
01/18/2026

In this episode, Michele Lawrence sits down with Radhika Mukhija, founder of Holistic Prana and author of the upcoming book Radiant Rituals (Shambhala/Penguin Random House).

Radhika shares her journey from corporate leadership to becoming a leading voice for professional women seeking sustainable well-being. This conversation bridges the gap between ancient Ayurvedic wisdom and modern neuroscience, offering yoga therapists practical frameworks for supporting clients through nervous system regulation and cyclical living.

In this episode, we discuss:

Bridging the Worlds: How Radhika’s corporate background informed her practical frameworks fo...


Embracing the Roots and Igniting the Future with Susanna Barkataki
#13
01/12/2026

In this episode of This is Yoga Therapy, Michele Lawrence sits down with Susanna Barkataki, C-IAYT—a #1 bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and founder of the Ignite Institute. Together, they explore the intersection of ancient wisdom, social change, and the ethical responsibility of the modern yoga therapist.

Susanna shares her profound journey, from being ordained by Thich Nhat Hanh to her current PhD studies in yoga philosophy. They dive deep into how honoring yoga’s South Asian origins isn't just a matter of history—it is essential to the integrity and efficacy of therapeutic practice today.

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Ancient Wisdom, Modern Longevity with Dr. John Douillard
#12
01/05/2026

In this episode, I sit down with a true pioneer in the integrative health space, Dr. John Douillard, DC, CAP. As the creator of LifeSpa.com, Dr. Douillard has spent decades proving that the "preventative wisdom" of Ayurveda isn't just tradition—it’s cutting-edge biology.

We dive deep into:

The Longevity Mirror: How modern research on telomeres and cellular health is finally catching up to Ayurvedic principles.The "Non-Negotiables": Dr. Douillard shares the one daily practice every modern professional needs to reset their nervous system.Inte...


Yoga, IFS, and Buddhist Psychology with Kali Basman
#12
12/23/2025

In this episode, I sat down with international educator Kali Basman to explore the profound terrain of inner coherence. Kali seamlessly bridges Yin Yoga, Buddhist psychology, and Internal Family Systems (IFS), teaching us how to meet our inner 'parts' on the mat. We discussed the power of somatic inquiry, nervous system regulation, and how this holistic approach guides students back to their natural rhythm of wholeness. 


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Beyond the Mat: Yoga for Liberation, Resilience, and Social Justice with Jacoby Ballard
#11
12/15/2025

Have you ever wondered how yoga and social justice intertwine? In this video, we dive deep into the transformative power of Inclusive Yoga and its impact on communities. Join us as we explore the profound connections between these practices.


Our guest, Jacobe Ballard, shares insights on how queer and trans yoga can foster inclusivity and healing. Discover how yoga poses for trans and queer persons are tailored to support diverse needs and promote well-being.


Understanding Inclusive Yoga
In this section, we explore what makes Inclusive Yoga unique. Jacobe discusses the importance of...


Moon Signs for the Soul with Dr. Katy Jane
#10
12/01/2025

In this episode we welcomed back the amazing Dr. Katy Jane (The Intuitive Vedic Astrologer) to dive into her new book, Moon Signs for the Soul! We explore how the 27 Vedic Moon Signs (Nakshatras) offer a deeper, more accurate roadmap for aligning with your true purpose. Plus, get the scoop on her powerful planetary predictions for 'The Year of Miracles' in 2026 and how practitioners can use this spiritual wisdom.

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PureRejuv with Dr. Carrie Demers
#9
11/24/2025

In this episode I interviewed with Dr. Carrie Demers. Dr. Carrie is a true pioneer, holding dual board certifications in both Internal Medicine and Integrative Medicine. She seamlessly blends modern science with traditional approaches like yoga, Ayurveda, nutrition, and herbal medicine. Carrie currently serves as the Medical Director of the Himalayan Institute's PureRejuv Wellness Center, and through the years has been a frequent contributor to Yoga International. 

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Ayurveda Polarity Therapy and Yoga with Amadea Morningstar
#8
11/10/2025

Michele Lawrence interviews Amadea Morningstar, a pioneer in Ayurvedic nourishment and self-care, about her journey and contributions to the field. Amadea, who has a BS in Nutrition and an MA in Counseling, founded the Ayurveda Polarity Therapy and Yoga Institute in Santa Fe. She discusses her books, including "Ayurvedic Cooking for Westerners" and "Easy Healing Drinks from the Wisdom of Ayurveda," and explains the principles of Ayurvedic nutrition, polarity therapy, and Marma therapy. Amadea emphasizes the importance of individualized care and the integration of ancient practices with modern health principles. She also shares her daily spiritual practices and commitment...


Good Living Practices with Dr. Ram Rao
#7
10/26/2025

In this episode, I interviewed Dr. Ram Rao. Dr. Ram holds a PhD in Neuroscience and presently serves as a Principal Research Scientist at Apollo Health which uses a systems-based, integrative approach to prevent, treat, or reverse Alzheimer’s disease. Ram is also a Board-certified Ayurveda Practitioner (AP), and a Registered Yoga Teacher and teaches Ayurveda and Yoga at the California College of Ayurveda. He is the author of the bestselling book Good Living Practices: The Best from Ayurveda, Yoga and Modern Science for Achieving Optimal Health, Happiness and Longevity.

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The Therapeutic Wisdom of Yoga with Doug Keller
#6
10/13/2025

Join us on the latest episode of This is Yoga Therapy for a conversation with the insightful Doug Keller. We explore the therapeutic wisdom of yoga and what it offers for those navigating chronic pain and health issues. Tune in to learn how this evolving field is set to become a vital part of the future of yoga!

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Embrace Ayurveda with Sarah Kruse
#5
09/29/2025

In this podcast episode, I spoke with Sarah Kruse. Sarah is an Ayurvedic Doctor and she assists clients in returning to their true nature through the principles applied in Ayurvedic Consultations and Ayurvedic Health Coaching programs. Sarah is a graduate of The Ayurvedic Institute, where she studied under Dr. Vasant Lad, and has traveled extensively throughout India, studying with renowned Ayurvedic doctors and scholars.  She is also a graduate of The Brenneke School of Massage in Seattle. Sarah has  been practicing Ayurveda since 1999 and massage since 2001.  In the podcast, we discussed how the ancient system of Ayurveda can support you...


The Yoga Psychologist with Dr. Stephanie Minchin
#4
09/05/2025

In this episode, I spoke with Dr. Stephanie Minchin. Dr. Minchin, also known as The Yoga Psychologist, brings over 17 years of experience as a Clinical Psychologist, a Yoga Teacher, and a Yoga Therapist. With advanced training in breathwork, Internal Family Systems, and Somatic IFS, she founded House of Yoga Psychology, a spiritual sanctuary dedicated to supporting holistic wellbeing professionals and healing practitioners. 

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Somatic Practice in Yoga Therapy with Dr. Jaime Stover Schmitt
#3
07/16/2025

In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Jaime Stover Schmitt. Jaime began traditional yoga training at age six, continued it through high school, and started teaching yoga in 1974. She began offering her integrative approach to yoga therapy as Spanda® Yoga Movement Therapy in 1987. Her offerings are informed by not only ongoing classical yoga study, but by her training in myriad forms of bodywork, movement therapy, career as a professional dancer, and doctorate in Dance Education. For over three decades, Dr. Schmitt has mentored yoga therapists, trained teachers, and led workshops globally. During the podcast, we s...


ReGrowing Our Wings: Yoga Therapy for Survivors of Relational Violence with Deborah King
#2
07/07/2025

In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Deborah King. Deborah is a Certified Yoga Therapist and the insightful founder of ReGrowing Our Wings: Yoga Therapy for Survivors of Relational Violence. Beyond her dedicated private practice, she partners with The Dove Project, creating vital yoga therapy offerings for survivors of gender-based violence. She also holds the unique privilege of creating specialized practices for people navigating multiple sclerosis, cancer, and postnatal mental health challenges through Swedish Medical Centers. Her recent article, "When Safety is a Privilege, Not a Choice: Yoga Therapy with Survivors of Intimate Partner Violence," was...


The Nourished Woman with Keri Marino
#1
06/20/2025

In this episode, I’m joined by Keri Marino—a somatic yoga therapist with over 16 years experience supporting women through deep, meaningful growth & healing.

Keri works with women who’ve spent years doing the inner work. They’ve been to therapy, read the books and done the yoga. And while they’ve come a long way, something still feels off. They’re tired of pushing through, tired of holding it all together, and deep down, they’re longing for something more sustainable. More joyful and soul-nourishing.

Keri shares how yoga therapy, somatic practices, and inner work can suppo...


Something Positive for Positive People with Courtney Brame
#40
05/19/2025

In this episode, I interviewed Courtney Brame. Courtney is a dedicated yoga teacher, a yoga therapist in training, and the insightful founder of Something Positive for Positive People (SPFPP). Courtney's work provides crucial guidance for individuals navigating the often isolating experience of stigma, a journey deeply informed by his own experiences. Courtney is also the host of the SPFPP podcast and is the co-author of the book, Fundamental Concepts and Critical Developments in Sex Education. We’re honored to have Courtney as a student in our Inner Peace Yoga Therapy certification program.

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"Yoga Snacks”: Bite-sized Breaks, Backed by Science with Ann Swanson
#39
05/09/2025

In this episode, I spoke with Ann Swanson—author of the bestselling Science of Yoga, which has been translated into over 15 languages and sold over 1/2 a million copies worldwide. Overcoming chronic pain and anxiety led her to India to study yoga, to China to explore tai chi, into the cadaver lab to teach anatomy, to night school to become a licensed massage therapist, and, ultimately, to earn a Master of Science in Yoga Therapy. 

This is the third time we've had Ann on the podcast. In this episode, we caught up on what’s new for Ann, inclu...