To Here Knows When - Great Irish Albums Revisited

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By: Paul McDermott

A music podcast about iconic Irish albums. Each episode takes a deep dive into the making of an album with one of its creators. Produced by Paul McDermott for Learn & Sing Productions. Info and episode notes: paulmcdermott.ie/podcast

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EP63 - Danny Kelly
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#63
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In tribute to Danny Kelly, who sadly passed away on 10 November, this is a repeat of Bonus Episode 7 from February 2025. It's got a new introduction, my own tribute to Danny. In a long conversation we chat about growing up in an Irish community in London; the Irish diaspora and his Irishness; how he got a start in music journalism; his years at the NME and loads of chat about some of his favourite Irish albums. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis. Episode notes: ⁠https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/bonus-episode-7


EP62 - Rough Trade Records
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#62
11/02/2026

On this episode I’m joined by Geoff Travis and Jeannette Lee of Rough Trade Records to discuss the iconic label’s 50th anniversary, the Irish artists on the label (both past and present) and a whole lot more. Episode Notes: ⁠https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-62


EP61 - Against Nature by The Fatima Mansions
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#61
09/07/2026

On this episode I’m joined by Aindrías Ó Grúama aka “Grimmo” and Nick Allum, respectively the guitarist and drummer of The Fatima Mansions, for a deep dive into Against Nature, the band’s debut album which was originally released on Kitchenware Records in 1989. We discuss the formation of the band by Cathal Coughlan, the recording sessions for Against Nature and the singles ‘Only Losers Take the Bus’ and ‘Blues For Ceausescu’ and a whole lot more. “Against Nature is a thoroughly fine LP. To those who’ve ever doubted him or stood in his way, this is Coughlan’s savoured two...


EP60 - Patrick Freyne on NPB and El Diablo
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#60
06/16/2026

On this episode I’m joined by journalist and author Patrick Freyne for a deep dive into NPB and El Diablo, his two late 90s/early 00s Dublin bands. NPB were a garage rock band and El Diablo were an alt-country band. Freyne's debut novel, Experts in a Dying Field has just been published. It tells the story of Dublin band The Heathens, the self-described 1000th best band of all time. Their tour van crashes and one of their members dies. It’s a witty novel about friendship, memory, grief and of losing your 20s in the back of van...


Bonus EP - Simon Reynolds on My Bloody Valentine, shoegaze and more
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05/21/2026

Music journalist and author Simon Reynolds chats about his new book Still In A Dream: Shoegaze, Slackers and the Reinvention of Rock 1984-1994. My Bloody Valentine are the central group in the book, but in this conversation we touch on many of its themes including: MBV and Slowdive being discovered by new audiences; early REM and Cocteau Twins; A.R. Kane and “dreampop”; The Smiths; Throwing Muses; Pixies; Dinosaur Jr; slackers and dole culture in the 80s; music journalism in the 80s; Sonic Youth and Daydream Nation; the popularity of MBV today and why shoegaze has survived. Episode notes: http...


EP59 - Rave On Andy White
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#59
04/16/2026

On this episode I’m joined by Andy White, to chat about 1986's Rave On Andy White, his debut album which celebrates its 40th anniversary this year. We chat about living in Dún Laoghaire in the mid-90s; Belfast in the 70s and 80s; Terri Hooley and Good Vibrations; The Clash in Belfast; John Cooper Clarke; John Peel; Billy Bragg; manager Peter Jenner; Dave Robinson and Stiff Records; Tom Verlaine and Television; Janice Long; Peace Together; Sinéad O’Connor; WOMAD; producer John Leckie; recording in Abbey Road and living in Melbourne. Episode notes: www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-59


EP58 - The Big Romance by David Kitt
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#58
04/03/2026

On this episode I’m joined by David Kitt to talk about The Big Romance. Our chat takes in: the writing and recording of 2000's Small Moments, his debut record on Rough Trade Records; the recording of The Big Romance, its release and huge success; touring Europe; further albums including 2006's Not Fade Away; touring with and eventually joining Tindersticks; re-recording The Big Romance in advance of its 25th anniversary and a whole lot more. Episode notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-58.


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03/31/2026

A short preview of Episode 58 – The Big Romance by David Kitt


Bonus EP - Nigel Grainge: Thin Lizzy, The Boomtown Rats, Sinéad O'Connor and Ensign Records
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01/05/2026

An archive interview with Nigel Grainge on setting up Ensign Records, signing Thin Lizzy, The Boomtown Rats, The Waterboys, Sinéad O’Connor, Into Paradise and Stump, and other stories. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/bonus-episode-9


EP57 - A Tonic For the Troops by The Boomtown Rats
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#57
12/17/2025

On this episode I’m joined by Bob Geldof to talk about The Boomtown Rats' second album, A Tonic For the Troops. Our chat goes in many different directions: Ireland of the 1970s, signing to Ensign Records, working with producer Mutt Lange, the Catholic Church in Ireland, The Boomtown Rats at 50, ‘Rat Trap’ hitting No. 1 in the UK and more. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-57


Bonus EP - Stuart Bailie: 40 years of music stories and more
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11/17/2025

Stuart Bailie is a former assistant editor of the NME. From Belfast, he played in Punk bands in the late 70s and early 80s. In 1985 he sold his guitar and bought a typewriter. He headed to London and started writing for Record Mirror. He has just published "The Song is Nearly Over: Music Stories 1985-2025". We chat about growing up in Belfast during the Troubles, 40 years of music journalism, some of his favourite Irish albums and a whole lot more. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/bonus-episode-8


EP56 - Here's One We Made Earlier by The Pale
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#56
10/16/2025

On this episode I’m joined by Matthew Devereux for a deep dive into Here’s One We Made Earlier the debut album by The Pale. We discuss the band’s early days, signing to A&M Records, recording their debut album in 1992, the album’s three singles (‘Dogs With No Tails’, ‘Butterfly’ and ‘Shut Up Venus’), becoming a self-sufficient band post major label deals, absurdity in music, creating a character on stage, the band’s unique sound, fusing Irish and Eastern music, and a whole lot more. We also talk about Keep Sketch, the second album under Matthew’s own name, that he rele...


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10/13/2025

A short preview of Episode 56 – Here's One We Made Earlier by The Pale


EP55 - The Spirit of Oberlin by Eileen Gogan
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#55
09/26/2025

Eileen Gogan joins me to chat about her debut album The Spirit of Oberlin, which celebrates its 10th anniversary this year. Eileen was in The Would Be’s, The Revenants, The Drays and joined Microdisney for their reformation gigs. We talk about all of that and more including her second album, Under Moving Skies and her collaborations with Cathal Coughlan, Sean O’Hagan, Damian O’Neill, and the Bring Your Own Hammer history project. Not for nothing did Eileen once joke that she was: “Queen of the obscure Indie Irish bands”. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-55


EP54 - Year Zero by Bawl
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#54
08/15/2025

Mark Cullen joins me to chat about his bands Bawl, Fixed Stars and Ponyclub. We discuss Bawl's Year Zero album and the three albums he recorded as Pony Club (Home Truths, Family Business and Post-Romantic). We also talk about writing songs with The Lightning Seeds' Ian Broudie, being championed by Morrissey in the early 00s, the mid-90s UK Indie scene, Britpop, writing songs for others and a whole lot more. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-54


EP53 - Silly Songs For Cynical People by The Would Be's
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#53
07/27/2025

In this episode I’m joined by Julie McDonnell, Aidine O’Reilly and Paul Finnegan of The Would Be's. We discuss the early years of the band: forming in Kingscourt, Co. Cavan in the late 80s; being championed by John Peel; supporting Morrissey; being lauded in the UK music press and their first three singles on Decoy Records including debut single 'I'm Hardly Ever Wrong'. We also chat about their brilliant new album HindZeitgeist. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-53


EP52 - Exit Trashtown by Cypress, Mine!
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#52
07/02/2025

In this episode I’m joined by Cypress, Mine! members Ciarán Ó Tuama, Ian Olney and Mark Healy to tell the story of the band and a whole lot more. Cypress, Mine! formed in 1984, they released three singles and the album Exit Trashtown (Solid Records, 1988), before disbanding in 1989. Morty McCarthy from The Sultans of Ping and Craig Walker from Power of Dreams also contribute their memories of Cypress, Mine! to this episode. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-52


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06/27/2025

A short preview of Episode 52 – Exit Trashtown by Cypress, Mine!


EP51 - Understand by Brian
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#51
06/12/2025

Brian is Ken Sweeney and Understand was his debut mini-album released on Setanta records in 1992. Ken chats about Dublin music in the 70s and 80s, the early 90s indie scene in London, the full history of Brian, Setanta Records, being Irish in London in the 90s, Bring Trouble (the second Brian album from 1999), Ken’s 25+ years working as an entertainment journalist and his great music documentaries. We also talk at length about Needle Mythology’s reissue which they’ve titled Understood, it complies Understand, the Planes EP and more. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-51


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06/07/2025

A short video preview of Episode 51 – Understand by Brian.


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06/07/2025

A short preview of Episode 51 – Understand by Brian.


EP50 - Song of Co-Aklan by Cathal Coughlan
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#50
05/18/2025

To mark Cathal Coughlan’s third anniversary EP50 isdevoted to his 2021 album, Song of Co-Aklan. It was the sixth album under Cathal’s own name, it was released on 31 March 2021 and this interview with Cathal was first broadcast on Songs to Learn and Sing on 103.2 Dublin City FM on 07 April 2021. Cathal talks about writing the songs for Song of Co-Aklan; what Microdisney’s reunion meant to him; Telefís, his collaboration (as then unreleased) with Jacknife Lee; the documentaries of Adam Curtis and more. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-50



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05/17/2025

A second short preview of Episode 50 – Song of Co-Aklan by Cathal Coughlan.


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05/17/2025

A short preview of Episode 50 – Song of Co-Aklan by Cathal Coughlan.


Bonus EP - Danny Kelly's favourite Irish albums
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02/28/2025

Danny Kelly is a former editor of the NME and Q magazine, He’s had a long and illustrious career in broadcasting. He was born in Islington in London, to Irish parents. In recent years Danny moved back to Ireland. In a long conversation we chat about all sorts of things: growing up in an Irish community in London; the Irish diaspora and his Irishness; how he got a start in music journalism; his years at the NME; and the intense rivalry between the music weeklies of the late 80s. And of course there’s loads of talk about musi...


EP49 - The D They Put Between the R & L by A Lazarus Soul
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#49
12/13/2024

On this episode I’m joined by Brian Brannigan from A Lazarus Soul for a deep dive about the band's fifth album, 2019's The D They Put Between the R & L. Our conversation takes in Brian's first band Sub Assembly and the different incarnations of A Lazarus Soul since the release of the band's first album in 2002. We talk about how Brian's writing has changed over the years, how he eventually found his authentic voice and how he draws inspiration from the Dublin he grew up in. We also discuss the band's latest album, No Flowers Grow in Cement Ga...


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12/06/2024

A short preview of Episode 49 – The D They Put Between the R & L by A Lazarus Soul.


EP48 - Twilight by John Hegarty
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#48
11/30/2024

On this episode I’m joined by John Hegarty for a deep dive about Twilight, his debut album from 2000. Twilight was produced by Bob Lamb, who produced UB40's Signing Off and The Lilac Time's self-titled debut. John has played with Female Hercules and Dinah Brand and has contributed to records by a load of artists including: Adrian Crowley, Cian Nugent, Seti the First, Jubilee Allstars, Barry McCormack and others. All this is discussed including a chat about John's new album Daydreaming. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-48



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11/24/2024

A short preview of Episode 48 – Twilight by John Hegarty.


EP47 - Louder & Clearer by Stanley Super 800
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#47
10/30/2024

On this episode I’m joined by Eoin ‘Stan’ O’Sullivan and Dave Hackett for a deep dive about Louder & Clearer the second album by Stanley Super 800. We chat about: The Shanks, The Céilí Allstars, The Young Offenders, Simple Kid, SS800’s self-titled debut album, touring Ireland, Sofa Records, Choice Music Price 2007, reforming for the 20th Clonakilty Guitar Festival, and loads more. Producer Mark O'Sullivan also provides his recollections. Episode notes: www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-47


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10/28/2024

A short video preview of Episode 47 – Louder & Clearer by Stanley Super 800.


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10/24/2024

A short preview of Episode 47 – Louder & Clearer by Stanley Super 800.


EP46 - A Murder of Crows by Joe Chester
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#46
10/18/2024

On this episode I’m joined by Joe Chester for a deep dive about A Murder of Crows. We chat about Dublin in the mid-90s, playing music with Sunbear, Nina Hynes, Ten Speed Racer, and others. We also chat about A Lazarus Soul, Elvis Costello, Christy Moore, collaborating with Gemma Hayes for Culture Night 2024, revisiting A Murder of Crows for its vinyl reissue and loads more. Episode notes: www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-46


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10/15/2024

A short video preview of Episode 46 – A Murder of Crows by Joe Chester.


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10/10/2024

A short preview of Episode 46 – A Murder of Crows by Joe Chester.


EP45 - At the End of a Winding Day by The Hedge Schools
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#45
10/03/2024

On this episode I’m joined by Patrick Barrett for a deep dive about At the End of a Winding Day by The Hedge Schools. Pat formed The Hedge Schools with his former Ten Speed Racer bandmate Joe Chester. We chat about Ten Speed Racer, collaborating with Joe on The Hedge Schools’s three albums, bespoke independent releases and the impetus to create art, recording two albums as Arrivalists and revisiting At the End of a Winding Day for its recent vinyl reissue. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-45


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09/30/2024

A short video preview of Episode 45 – At the End of a Winding Day by The Hedge Schools.


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09/28/2024

A short preview of Episode 45 – At the End of a Winding Day by The Hedge Schools.


EP44 - Ciddy Hall by Nine Wassies From Bainne
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#44
09/12/2024

On this episode I’m joined by Giordaí Ua Laoghaire for a deep dive about Ciddy Hall by Nine Wassies From Bainne. Giordaí Ua Laoighaire was a member of Cork punk band Nun Attax before joining Micro Disney. Giordaí played guitar on Stano’s first two albums and later in the 1980s was a member of Cork band Soon. In 1988 he moved to Dublin and wrote music for theatre and presented his own high-regarded radio show on Raidió Na Life. He formed Nine Wassies From Bainne in the early 90s. Episode notes: https://www.paulmcdermott.ie/episode-44


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09/08/2024

A short preview of Episode 44 – Ciddy Hall by Nine Wassies From Bainne.