The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast: Lead Like Never Before

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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episode transcripts and podcast show notes, go to ww...

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Creativity Is the Church's Lost Superpower: Al Gordon on How Stress and Algorithms Are Killing Your Imagination and How to Unlock Creativity in Your Team
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Today at 9:05 AM

Most leaders don't think of themselves as creative. Al Gordon says that's the lie keeping you stuck. Al, founder of Renaissance, lead pastor of SAINT in East London, talks about why creativity is the...

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The Myth of 10,000 Hours: David Epstein on How Creativity Actually Works and Why Constraints Set You Free
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06/16/2026

New York Times bestselling author David Epstein talks about why Malcolm Gladwell's 10000-hour rule isn't accurate, how he and Malcolm became friends, how creativity actually works (what you can learn...

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The End of Anxiety? Joshua Becker on Spiritual Minimalism and When Enough is Enough
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#810
06/11/2026

Former pastor, minimalist, and New York Times bestselling author Joshua Becker returns to the podcast. He discusses why he left ministry to pursue a fresh calling, how minimalism can usher in an end...

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Get Past Broke Thinking In Your Church: The Lean Startup's Eric Reis on When To Take A Risk and Why Harder is Easier
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06/09/2026

New York Times bestselling author Eric Ries applies his startup philosophy to churches. Carey and Eric cover how to know when to take a risk, how to get past broke thinking in your church, and why...

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Why Leadership Is Designed to Kill You: Nicole Martin on Leading Christianity Today in a Divided, Rapidly Changing World
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#808
06/02/2026

Nicole Martin made history as Christianity Today's first Black female CEO — and took the hits that come with it.

In this conversation: the backlash, Billy Graham's original vision, how the magazine...

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How to Make Your Life Burnout-Proof: Burnout 20 Years Later, Part 2
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#807
05/28/2026

Twenty years after burnout almost took him out, Carey is back with Part 2—the recovery playbook.

You don't need to get back to normal. Normal is what burned you out.

In this solo episode, Carey...

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I Was Almost Ministry Road Kill: Burn Out 20 Years Later, Part 1
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#806
05/26/2026

Twenty years ago this month, Carey almost became ministry road kill. After 11 years of 30%+ annual growth, he burned out, hard.

In Part 1 of this solo episode, Carey shares 5 honest insights from...

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Breaking Mental Strongholds: A Conversation with Louie Giglio, Jennie Allen, and Craig Groeschel
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05/21/2026

There's a battle happening in our minds: one that shapes how we see ourselves, our circumstances, and even God. In this episode, Carey moderates a conversation with Louie Giglio, Jennie Allen, and...

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The Reason Your Church Isn't Multiplying and Fresh Trends in Church Planting With Dave Ferguson
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05/19/2026

The vast majority of churches are plateaued or declining, and Exponential CEO Dave Ferguson explains why most churches never grow, let alone multiply.

Plus, he shares the latest trends in church...

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How to De-escalate an Angry Church and Leading a Ministry You Didn't Start with Rich Villodas
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#804
05/14/2026

Carey caught up with Rich Villodas backstage at Exponential to talk about the learnable skills that keep leaders and congregations non-anxious in an angry age, and the unique challenges and gifting...

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CNLP 803 | Mass-Marketed Sin, Political Warfare, and Why Your Best Staff Keep Leaving with Joel Muddamalle
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#803
05/12/2026

Joel Muddamalle is a theologian who thinks harder about spiritual warfare than almost anyone in the church today. In this conversation: how sin got a mass-marketing strategy, why your devices are a...

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How the Modern Church Was Shaped: Church Growth, Seeker Sensitive, Attractional, Missional with Todd Wilson
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#802
05/05/2026

Most church leaders are leading inside a model they never chose and rarely understand.

In this episode, Todd Wilson, founder of Exponential, walks through the true history of the modern church:...

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When the Ministry Playbook Doesn't Work Anymore: Robby Gallaty and Vick Green on the Keys to Discipleship and Revival
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#801
04/28/2026

What do you do when you run a playbook on discipleship that's worked for years, and it stops working? That led Robby Gallaty to a place of despair, and out of that, revival and renewal came. Robby...

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Women in Ministry: Preston Sprinkle on What the Bible Actually Says
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04/23/2026

Preston Sprinkle studied the full biblical narrative on women in ministry inductively, without an agenda. From Genesis to Paul, we discuss what he found and where it led him.

We also tackle what...

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Christine Caine: The Real Reasons Women Are Done With Church
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04/21/2026

Christine Caine returns to the podcast to discuss the real reasons she thinks women are done with the church, how to get them back, why playing the Holy Spirit's role in other people's lives has to...

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Finally Beat Sermon Deadline Procrastination: Jon Acuff on Procrastination, Building an Audience, and AI-Proofing Your Impact
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04/14/2026

Find yourself procrastinating? You're not alone. Jon Acuff explains how to finally stop procrastinating on your sermon writing and other projects. Plus, he explains how he continues to grow as a...

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Why You Shouldn't Chase Your Passion: Bill Gurley on the Delusional Factor Every Outlier Needs and How to Find a Mentor
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04/09/2026

Bill Gurley, legendary investor behind Uber, Snapchat, and Twitter, shares why "follow your passion" is dangerously misleading, what to chase instead, what the best startup founders do, and the...

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Best Advice For Preachers: Arthur Brooks on How To Reclaim 20 Hours of Sermon Writing Time + The Meaning of Your Life
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#796
04/07/2026

Arthur C. Brooks attends church every single day, has sat through thousands of sermons, gives lectures and talks around the world and based on that, gives his best advice to preachers. Plus, we look...

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A 100% Digital Church: What Mark Lutz Learned That Physical Churches Are Missing
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03/31/2026

Mark Lutz pastored a regular church for a few years. Then, as a gamer, he opened up Lux Church, a 100% ditigal church created for gamers. He explains the model, why it's reaching people no one else...

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Overcoming Your Self-Limiting Beliefs and the Science Behind How Prayer Builds Resilience With Nir Eyal
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#794
03/26/2026

How do you get past your self-limiting beliefs? Best-selling author Nir Eyal talks about the research on why some leaders see the positive while others see the negative, how to change your mindset...

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Carl Lentz On Preaching While Having Sex Outside Marriage, How the Pressure of Church Growth Got To Him, And Warning Signs for Other Church Leaders
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#793
03/24/2026

Former Hillsong NYC pastor Carl Lentz opens up about the factors that led to the collapse of his ministry.

He discusses the core issues that led to his breach of trust, what it was like to preach...

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I Wanted to Quit Everything: Jennie Allen on Suffering, Spiritual Warfare, Lies Leaders Believe, and Not Giving Up
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#792
03/17/2026

Jennie Allen reflects on a year like no other she's had: an ephocal global event followed by a terribly difficult sabbatical, health scares, and discouragement.

Jennie talks about wanting to quit,...

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Why Church Dating Advice No Longer Works: JJ and Kait Tomlin on the Realities Single Christians Face
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#791
03/12/2026

JJ and Kait Tomlin join the podcast to give candid advice to church leaders who, um, haven't dated in a while. It's different out there than it used to be.

They cover outdated dating advice, what...

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Red Flags Driving Women Out of Church (and How to Fix Them) with Kadi Cole
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03/10/2026

Recent data shows that while young men are coming to church in record numbers, women are leaving. Why? Kadi Cole shares the #1 reason women are leaving church (lack of trust) and outlines numerous...

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Beth Moore on Knowing When It's Time to Leave and Proof-Texting Scripture to Keep the Pulpit and Power
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03/03/2026

Beth Moore talks about leaving the SBC a decade ago, how to know when it's time to leave, why so many women are leaving the church, and proof-texting scripture to keep the pulpit and power.

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Are You Marketing Revival? The Problem with Mixed Motives and Social Media in Church Leaders
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02/26/2026

In this episode, Carey asks the question of whether we're selling church growth and marketing revival on social media.

As leaders, our motives are always mixed, and Carey offers a framework for...

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Emergency Episode | Pastoring Angry People: When to Speak, When to Stay Silent, and Leading Without Losing Everyone
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#787
02/24/2026

The cultural moment we're in isn't just tense — it's a full convulsion, and it's landing in your church every Sunday. In this emergency panel episode, Ed Stetzer, Adam Mesa, and Sharon Hodde Miller...

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Craig Groeschel and His Therapist Join the Show: What Happens When a Leader Hits a Breaking Point
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#786
02/17/2026

Life.Church Senior Pastor Craig Groeschel and his therapist, Dr. Wayne Chappelle, join Carey to talk about a wall Craig hit in ministry, that he thought might k*ll him.

They discuss what was at...

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Patrick Lencioni Opens Up About His Dark Night of the Soul, How Work Can Heal You, And Leading Next Gen Leaders
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02/12/2026

Patrick Lencioni opens up about his dark night of the soul and his recent five-month sabbatical.

Plus, we discuss how we go to work to heal and the joys and challenges of leading next-gen leaders.

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Leadership is NOT Lonely! Henry Cloud on Founderitis and Why You're More In Control Than You Think
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#784
02/10/2026

Henry Cloud explains why leadership is not lonely, or at least, shouldn't be.

Plus, we discuss why founders hang on too long and why leaders have far more control than you think!

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Are We Too Critical Of the Church? John Crist Returns to Talk Cynicism, Hope and Getting the Tonight Show
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#783
02/03/2026

Comedian and listener favorite John Crist returns to ask if we're being too critical of the church right now. Has our cynicism gone too far?

Plus, we talk about finding hope and do a detailed...

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The Problem of Mini-Celebrity Pastors: Les McKeown on Growth Barriers for Church Leaders
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#782
01/29/2026

Leadership expert Les McKeown talks about the rise of mini-celebrity pastors, the limits that places on church growth and team development, and how to overcome the growth barriers you're facing as...

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John Mark Comer Goes to the Desert, Clarifies Where He Stands, and Deep Dives on a Major Challenge for Modern Discipleship
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#781
01/27/2026

John Mark Comer talks about his 21-day venture into the desert and a silence unlike any he's known in his life.

Plus, he clarifies where he stands in terms of the left or the right (and the Christian...

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Are You Clear Enough to Reach The Next Generation? The New Rules of Cultural Influence with YouTuber Ruslan KD
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#780
01/20/2026

YouTuber Ruslan KD sits down to explain that ambiguity from preachers on cultural issues is costing them more than they think.

He shares how the next generation is looking to the church for what to...

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Preaching at A Rave: Luke LeFevre + Daniel McLeod on Gen Z's Bold Faith and How to Use Gen Z's Gifts at Your Church
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#779
01/15/2026

Even as teenagers, Gen Zers Luke LeFevre and Daniel McLeod were preaching at their high school and at raves. They share why Gen Z is so bold, what's creating the surge in church attendance, and why...

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Tapping the Brakes on The Talk of Revival: David Kinnaman Nuances What's Happening with Christianity in America + Digital Discipleship
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#778
01/13/2026

Is America in revival? Well, not quite, according to Barna CEO David Kinnaman, who joins Carey to discuss 2026 church trends.

New data shows overall American Christianity is still in decline AND that...

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2026 Disruptive Church Trends: Gen Z Leading Church Attendance Surge, Women Exiting Faith, + The Impact of Discipleship By Algorithm
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#777
01/06/2026

Carey Nieuwhof unveils 7 disruptive church trends to track in 2026. The trends include Gen Z leading a surge in young church attendance and a rise in women exiting the Christian faith.

Plus, Carey...

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Small Church Dysfunction: David Ashcraft on Growth at LCBC, Succession, and Growing the Global Leadership Summit
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#776
12/30/2025

Former LCBC Senior Pastor David Ashcraft talks about the small church dysfunction he encountered when he arrived at LCBC when it was just a small church.

Plus, he discusses how it scaled into a...

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When Church Members Break Your Heart and Your Trust: Sharon Hodde Miller on Resilience and Speaking Into the Culture
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#775
12/23/2025

Sharon Hodde Miller discusses entering ministry with idealism that is crushed when people break your heart and leave your church.

Plus, she discusses how to keep your heart engaged, learning to fight...

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You're Not Ready for Revival: Dom Ruso on a New Kind of Secularism and Reaching UnReachable People
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#774
12/18/2025

Theologian and church planter Dom Ruso offers lessons from church planting in Montreal, one of the most secular environments in North America, and how to reach a very difficult culture.

He talks...

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