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This is part two of my conversation with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett, recorded live in LA in a very intimate room full of friends while talking about her book Naturally.

In this part, we get into our favorite themes from her book: pleasure, pain,  transformation, grief, and the ways creative expression helps us process. We also talk about sleep hygiene, the connection between slowing down and self-awareness, why knowing the state you’re trying to shift matters before reaching for anything, and how herbalism can help when you know what you’re actually seeking. Toward the end...

This week is a little different: usually I’m the one asking the questions, but this time I’m on the other side. My friend Sophie had me on as the first guest to her new podcast, Late to the Party, where she interviewed me. This conversation ended up feeling surprisingly cathartic and was the most honest I’ve ever been while being recorded. She gave me a container to share and her genuine interest, thoughtful questions, and care gave me the confidence to open up about things I haven't.

This episode fills in a lot of the st...

This week I spoke with herbalist and writer Rachelle Robinett about her new book, Naturally, and some of my favorite ideas inside it: dopamine, novelty, primal motivation and strategies to regulate our nervous systems. We also talk about how the ways we distract ourselves are often attempts at a change in state and how knowing what type of state change we’re craving can help us determine not only which herb to work with, but what the desire under the craving actually is. We get into her favorite herb, how she uses it as an alternative to alcohol, as we...

This week I talked to attorney and writer Savala Nolan. Her newest book, Good Woman, which was named a Most Anticipated Feminist Book of 2026 by Ms. Magazine, is out now.

I got to read an early copy and loved it. She writes with raw honesty about making herself smaller, both literally and metaphorically, in order to be a good daughter, a good wife, a good mother, and all the ways she allowed herself to be diminished to keep the peace, and how many others do this too. The 12 essays blend cultural commentary, personal experience, reportage, and history.<...

This week, I’m joined again by emotional eating expert Tricia Nelson. This time, we explore the intricate connection between emotional eating and romantic relationships. We talk about how emotional responsibility includes becoming aware of the ways food struggles can impact intimacy and communication in relationships.

We also discuss how isolation can intensify emotional eating, why connection and honesty are essential to healing, and the underlying reasons food becomes a coping mechanism. Tricia shares practical ways she has helped people shift these deep-rooted patterns, including how processing, expressing, and communicating how we’re feeling is essential to chan...

My close friend Christine came over on New Year’s Day and we caught up on what’s ahead. We talk about friendship, big life transitions, and the constant evolution we all experience. She’s candid about how she’s changed creatively, professionally, and personally, including navigating freelance work amid uncertainty, and her excitement about becoming a parent and how pregnancy has unexpectedly fueled her productivity. We reflect on our last interviews, what she’s learned since, and the importance of staying adaptable. She’s quietly shown me how to move through change with poise and loved getting to have a time...

*This episode originally aired in 2017. I made a new intro/ reaction to it. It's my first conversation ever with my now very dear friend. Look out for an updated conversation between us next week. 

January 2017

Today's conversation is one of the rare occasions where I make a friend live on the podcast. This conversation exceeded my expectation of what Christine would be like live. She was every bit as thoughtful, earnest, and wise as she comes off in the hundreds of YouTube videos she's published. Christine went to film school and simultaneously began on YouTube w...

In this episode, I talk with author and emotional-eating expert Tricia Nelson about why we turn to food for comfort, what emotional eating actually is (it’s not about willpower), and how to build a life that makes late-night kitchen raids less inevitable. We get into compulsions, body image, aging, intimacy, the “tiger out of the cage” metaphor, and why healing has way more to do with buried feelings and stress patterns than with food itself. It’s an honest, tender conversation about breaking cycles, lowering pressure, and learning to feel instead of numb.

Show Notes | Resources | Mentions...

What Happens When You Actually Feel Feelings Instead of Avoiding Them? This week, I spoke with Jessica Gill about this. She's the Chief Content Officer at To Be Magnetic, about creativity, expansion, and what it really means to feel your feelings. We talked about grief, nostalgia, career ruts, rock bottoms, and how to get unstuck by doing the opposite of what you usually do. Jessica shares practical tools for raising self-worth, letting go of the past, and reconnecting to radical authenticity. If you’ve ever felt in limbo or like your old shell doesn’t fit anymore, this one will...

*This episode originally aired in 2018, re-airing it today in honor of Lacy's new book. And look out of an updated conversation between us later this week. 

In in late 2017 a friend mentioned a workshop she’d  attended in New York led by Lacy. After hearing about her experience, I was intrigued, yet slightly apprehensive because after years of obsession and addiction to all things personal-growth, spirituality, and manifestation I was at a point where I was exhausted by content even in the vicinity of self-help. Despite my trepidation I checked out Lacy's work and several hours later, I wa...

*This episode originally aired in 2018, re-airing it today in honor of Lacy's new book. And look out for an updated conversation between us later this week. 

In late 2017, a friend mentioned a workshop she’d attended in New York led by Lacy. After hearing about her experience, I was intrigued, yet slightly apprehensive because after years of obsession and addiction to all things personal-growth, I was at a point where I was exhausted by content even in the vicinity of self-help. Despite my trepidation, I checked out Lacy's work. From her style and aesthetic to her framework and...

This week I spoke with longtime activist and author Dean Spade about the complexities of relationships and the challenges we face in a society shaped by disposability culture. We discussed the fear of being wrong in public and of conflict and feedback. He spoke about why self-help often falls short in addressing systemic issues and shared some insights from his latest book, Love in a F*cked Up World, which offers practical advice on navigating personal growth and connection in a world that often feels isolating and disconnected. I loved both the book and this conversation. Let us know...

This week, I talked to interior designer Cooper Osinski. He shared what makes a space feel personal, how he balances his style with client work, and how he developed his taste and style while navigating trends. We also discussed his intentional approach to growing an online presence on YouTube and how he stays thoughtful and constructive when offering design commentary. Cooper was as warm and inviting as the spaces he creates, and he offered heaps of practical, accessible tips—including small design fixes that make a big impact. Whether you're deep into design or just curious, he makes the wo...

This week, I talk to business strategist Abbi Miller about navigating pivots in both personal and professional life. Abbi was on the podcast five years ago, and her perspective on time management, which she calls Time Pessimism, is a concept I’ve found helpful ever since. Since then, much has changed for her both personally and collectively (including becoming a mom). In this episode, we catch up on everything she’s learned since then, including how to work with the muse when it strikes and how she sets up systems to support that flow. We also discuss how to deal...

This week, I talk to Erin Claire Jones, one of the world’s leading experts in Human Design. She talks about her journey from skeptically discovering it at a party to now writing a book (How Do You Choose) about how we can use our design to make better decisions in relationships and career. Erin also shares how these principles have transformed her life, and we explore how they can be used by anyone, even those just beginning to learn about the system.

I first discovered her grounded approach to Human Design when I was gifted a pe...

LA-based artist Christopher DeLoach and I talked about his path from class clown to intrepid traveler—walking the Appalachian Trail—to becoming an artist and creating the iconic bumper stickers you know and love. He shares a series of surreal encounters while hitchhiking, including rides with enigmatic characters that challenged his worldview. Our conversation spans time—from his childhood in NYC to adventures in his early 20s and how both continue to shape him today. We talked about identity, American culture, his painting process, collecting ideas, funding and sustaining a career in LA, becoming known for something, doubt, belief, and ev...

This is the second half of my conversation with my friend Blu Most, an artist who has worked in food styling, creative direction, and event design. We get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, her best advice on relationships and anxiety, and how aging changes our perspective on it all. If you missed part 1 last week, we talked about embracing creative cycles, the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity.

Show notes:

- My Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout

- Find Blu on the Web | I...

In this first part of my conversation with the brilliant and wildly creative Blu Most, we dive into the life of a self-proclaimed “ideas person” and explore what it means to be a jack-of-all-trades. Blu shares her experience through art, food styling, creative direction, and event design—embracing creative cycles and navigating the tension between financial security and artistic fulfillment. We also get into stepping away from Instagram, marketing to niche communities, and how personal branding intersects with authenticity. Stay tuned for Part 2, where we get into ADHD habits, community for freelancers, shifting towards intimate gatherings, her best advice on rel...

"What's your greatest lesson on romantic relationships?" is a question I've asked in most every episode. This week, with the help of a few favorite guests, I attempt to answer it. It's the first time in 12 years that I've ever done a brief episode... brevity is not my strong suit so don't get used to it... but I hope you like it! It features: Kristin Hanggi, Cody Cook-Parrott, Robyn Kanner, Rachelle Robinett, Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, Mari Andrew, Jon Marro, Neada Deters, and Yoke Lore. Let me know if you listen : )

Show Notes:

- Breakups Kits !!  + +  ph...

In honor of Valentine’s Day it’s an episode about what I know best: romantic love… just kidding it’s about breakups! It's a variety show from 2019 where I compiled all of the times (up until then) I spoke with guests on how heartbreak, grief, and sadness can lead to growth. I play some of my favorite clips from my conversations with  founder of To Be Magnetic, Lacy Phillips, herbalist at Supernatural, Rachelle Robinett,  author Sara Avant Stover, dancer and writer Cody Cook-Parrott, illustrator Mari Andrew, Yoke Lore, and more ... it sounds like a bummer of an episode but it was...

I thought it would be fun to do a year-in-review of the music of 2024 with my friend James McCrae. Neither of us are music experts, but we’re constantly sharing music with each other. James first came on the show in 2020, when we did a similar review of the music from that wild quarantine year when artists weren’t touring and we all missed live shows. Fast forward to 2024, and we chat about what we've noticed over the last five years, including the changes in the music industry, trends we've seen, and of course, what we’ve had on repeat...

This week I spoke with Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina Stevens, co-hosts of the Romanistan podcast. I talked to them about the tragic fires in LA and their advice on navigating dark times and finding personal and collective resilience. They shared advice on healing and self-care during crises, looking at the tarot card of the year, what they do when they're feeling uninspired or creatively blocked, embracing resilience, and the importance of bringing diverse perspectives to ancient traditions. Their new book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling, introduces the history of the Romani people and their long-standing relationship with fortune-telling, exploring...

Ready to take a fresh path to self-discovery? Every Monday, Jemma brings you a new mantra, breaking it down to show you how you can apply it to your own life. Whether you’re facing a major transition or looking to evolve your everyday routine, Mantra is the podcast for you. Join Jemma every week for reflections, practical tips, and personal insights that’ll inspire you to live with intention and unlock your true potential. Follow “Mantra with Jemma Sbeg” wherever you get your podcasts.

**This is part two of last week’s conversation with Dr. Patti, which was recorded prior to the devastating fires in LA. A list of resources is in the show notes below.**

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wel...

Dr. Patti Kim is a naturopathic doctor and acupuncturist in Los Angeles. She’s also my close friend, one of my favorite people to talk to. She came over on New Year’s Day to talk about our end-of-year rituals, including journaling prompts and ins and outs. We also get into self-awareness vs. integration, natural cycles, delighting in the discomfort of being human, and trends in wellness. Plus longevity in every sense of the word, from her career to our aging bodies, parents and pets.

I’m splitting this into two parts so come back next week for mo...

This week I spoke to Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned international bestselling author and Forbes contributor. Not only is Ashley a TEDx speaker herself, she's now a highly sought-after TEDx speechwriter and CEO of her agency Wise Whisper, which helps people craft impactful talks and get booked on major stages. Ashley opens up about navigating the liminal spaces of life, where clarity is elusive, and how discipline plays a crucial role in finding your next elegant idea. Together, we discuss creative pivots, the value of storytelling, and embracing discomfort as a path to growth.

S...

In this special year-in-review mailbag episode, producer Ella and I look back on favorite standout episodes from 2024, our process of working together, and what's ahead for Let It Out in the coming year. We answer a few questions about walking, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and our collaborative process with writing and editing newsletters and the truth of how our ideas take shape. Let us know if you listen!

Show notes:

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack 
--my episode on maddie's youtube where she interviews me November 2024:
 part 1 and par...

It's just me this week, delivering a dispatch that feels more like a voice note to a friend than a typical interview. I centered this around how the so-called "irony epidemic" has shaped the way I work, write, and share my projects in a culture that often resists earnestness. I reflect on the push/pull between sincerity and detachment, the ways we seek validation both online and offline, and how group chats, community, and connection factor into it all. Plus, why being “goo prone” might just be the most human thing of all.

Show notes:

- Fi...

This week I spoke to chef, recipe developer, writer and food stylist Chloe Walsh, also known as Chloe Cooks. A Brit based out of Los Angeles, she hosts pop-ups, writes her incredible Substack (Anchovies & Soup), swims, and is known for her potato recipe and so much more. In addition to loving her food, I love her. I’m lucky enough to get to call her a friend and neighbor. She had me over a couple weeks ago, made us lunch, and we talked for hours about everything from her favorite places to go in LA, to meals to cook wh...

This week I spoke to Moon Juice founder and CEO Amanda Chantal Bacon. Amanda, as it says in the PR email I received, “has a captivating personal story that led her to create her company,” but we barely touched on that in this conversation. Instead we had a candid conversation that began with talking about shame and a book (All Fours). And spanned to finding love later, aging, mourning past life phases, intergenerational friendship, and the myth of balance. I found this to be a very comforting conversation from start to finish; she was so wise and easygoing that I left feel...

This is the second half of my conversation with one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. 

In Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most recent novel Death Valley, our favorite grocery stores, how to tell people what’s going on in the midst of a changing and challenging situation, finding humor, the messiness of bodies and aging, advice to write consistently, the...

This week, I spoke to one of my favorite authors, Melissa Broder. She is the author of several novels, the essay collection So Sad Today, and five poetry collections. She's appeared in the New York Times, Elle, Harper's Bazaar, VICE, and New York Magazine. I’m splitting this one up into two parts… 

Today you’ll hear the first half of our conversation where we talked about everything from wellness culture and mental health to limerence, long-term relationships, and her writing process.

Next week, in Part 2, we talk about grief, losing a parent, writing her most rec...

What you’re about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them.

My friend and nei...

This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did.

In this, we talked about seeing each othe...

This week I spoke to Neada Deters, founder of the organic skincare range LESSE. We met when she still lived in LA a few years ago so we began this conversation discussing her recent move to NYC, which is a return for her. Neada moved to New York the first time from Australia with a one-way ticket over a decade ago, so we talked about how she made that big decision and many more, including starting out her career in music journalism, working at VICE, and eventually pivoting her beat to beauty writing before eventually starting her skincare line...

This week I spoke with Zoë Pawlak, a Vancouver-based artist and industrial designer. After deciding to get sober, she turned to journaling as a way of expression and inner reflection. Soon she married her interests in art and writing to create Vessels and Muses.

In this conversation we cover: breaking traditional norms of what’s possible when you have kids; living an "artist lifestyle"; how what she calls "life quakes" lead to growth; and letting go of what’s no longer working. We also talk a lot about communication, the benefits of directness, community care, how she manages...

This week I spoke with the iconic writer and editor Christene Barberich. I first knew of her as the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Refinery29. I’ve loved her work for years, through R29, her own writing, and the podcast she hosted for many years called Unstyled, so when recent guest Erika Veurink connected us, I was thrilled.

We spoke about starting R29 and what that time was like, reflecting on some of her best interviews with everyone from Linda Rodin to Jenny Slate. She also talked about leaving her role there and the excitement of new beginnings. At...

This week I spoke to President Obama’s Social Secretary, Deesha Dyer. She recently published her memoir, Undiplomatic, which dives into how a hip-hop journalist without credentials, connections, or a college degree conquered imposter syndrome while landing one of the most sought-after positions in the White House. Moved by the election of the country's first Black president, she applied for a White House internship at 31, taking a leap that carried her through being hired in a full-time position that landed her at the epicenter of politics. 

I loved her book and was stoked to get to talk to...

This week is the second half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.

In Part 2, she shares how she met her husband and offers advice on romantic relationships. And of course, personal style, including her go-to outfit. We talk more about her Substack publication, where she covers everything from her advi...

This week is the first half of my conversation with secondhand-fashion-obsessed writer Erika Veurink. She’s written everywhere from NY Magazine to Vogue to WSJ, and currently writes the newsletter Long Live. She grew up in Iowa, has lived in NYC for nearly a decade, and recently visited LA so we spoke about how places become part of our identities.

In Part 1, she shares how her religious upbringing led to her work ethic and ability to maintain multiple projects and jobs, but also impacted her thoughts on spirituality and rest. We cover writing at length including: her lov...