Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

(0:00) Thank you to all participants of the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(0:16) Intro *Boardroom Governance YouTube Channel launch.

(1:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:31) Start of interview. 

(3:25) Origin Story of Marc Huffman

(6:26) About OnBoard

(10:35) AI Risks for SaaS and OnBoard

(12:46) Directors Using AI in Shadows. His ideal board books.

(17:05) Building a Better AI Policy

(20:44) Agentic AI for Boards. Semantics search inside the board portal.

(23:30) Recording Risks in Meetings

(27:34) Improving Board Effectiveness

(29:44) Pu...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(0:43) Intro

(2:08) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:54) Start of interview. 

(3:56) Origin Story of Shannon Nash

(7:00) Her pivot from Law to Finance

(9:15) Her operating and finance career 

(12:55) Her experience in tech (subscription businesses) and current COO and CFO role at Vibrant Planet

(15:50) Her first board (UserTesting) and subsequent board career (Netscout, SoFi, Lazy Dog Restaurants, Silicon Valley Community Foundation) 

(22:04) Cybersecurity Meets AI

(28:47) Where are the Humans? The next wave in t...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(1:20) Intro

(2:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:31) Start of interview. 

(4:55) Origin Story of Sandra Gobert

(6:04) Sandra’s Career Path

(8:56) Guberna and Board Education. Member of EcoDa.

(12:00) Family Firms and Control in EU

(13:53) Relationship Agreements Explained (examples, Bpost and Proximus)

(19:05) State Owned Enterprises (SOEs), and Government involvement on Boards

(19:58) The Board’s Emerging Fourth Role: advocacy and policymaking, alongside its traditional strategic, leadership, and oversight responsibilities.

(22:52) AI and Al...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(1:17) Intro

(2:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:31) Start of interview. 

(4:39) AI and Governance Today

(5:34) Data Center Politics (reference to moratorium by New York State)

(6:48) About the 3rd Rome Conference on AI, Ethics and Governance

(9:06) AI Hype and Job Fears

(14:45) Birth and focus of The Chairs Circle and Limerick Lane Cellars.

(22:53) CEO Succession Lessons

(30:58) Founders versus Boards

(37:04) EVs and China’s Rise

(44:58) Semiconductors, Chips and Geop...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(0:55) Intro

(2:37) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:24) Start of interview. 

(4:23) Origin story Mayree Clark

(6:08) Origin story Linda Riefler

(8:23) About their Leading-Edge Stewardship framework and personal road-map.

(11:38) Teamwork and Long-Term Value Creation

(16:03) On board diversity and pace of change

(19:02) Boards in distress: Mayree joining Ally Financial in financial crisis (2009)

(21:39) MSCI Culture and CEO Relations

(26:02) Tough calls on CEO transitions (example of CSX CEO transition)

(32:39) Private Eq...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(0:55) Intro

(2:44) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:30) Start of interview. 

(4:16) Origin story Marie Bafus

(5:30) Origin story Wendy Grasso

(7:34) Diving into their article AI in the Boardroom: What Directors Need to Know Now

(4:14) Why AI Needs Board Oversight

(12:00) Caremark and Oversight Duties

(15:12) Mission-Critical Risk Cases. Reference to Marchand case (2019) and Boeing case (2021)

(19:18) Where AI Belongs in Governance (board level and board committees)

(21:28) Defining Mission-Critical AI

(24:45) St...

(0:00) About the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(0:54) Intro

(2:15) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:01) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episode with Terry (E131) from 2024.

(3:50) About Terry's role as Co-Chair of WilmerHale's Sports & Gaming Practice 

(4:52) Sports Investment Boom, now including institutional investors and private equity 

(8:40) League Ownership Models (ie. NFL, MLS, WPHL, etc)

(14:24) Player Revenue Battles (example of WNBA)

(16:34) Terry's sports governance practice

(18:18) The Soccer World Cup, Global Expansion, and cross-border investments

(20:35) U.S. Sporting Fra...

(0:00) Intro to this episode

(2:52) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(3:39) Start of interview

(4:18) Keith Giarman's origin story. About DHR Global

(9:33) Tony Abate's origin story. Current boards: Wolfspeed, GTT Communications, Mitel, and Tacora Resources.

(23:52) Turnaround Board Playbook. Three phases: 1) Fix the balance sheet; 2) Turnaround strategy, and time to turn to the income statement; and 3) Exit the business.

(28:50) Private Equity Board Structure. It is all contextual.

(33:40) Compensation in PE boards.

(31:15) What Makes Boards Effective, from Tony based on his chairmanship experience...

(0:00) Intro *Reference to the Boardroom Governance Summit at Limerick Lane Cellars, Healdsburg, California (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(2:12) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:59) Start of interview. 

(4:00) Origin Story of Emily, and Stewardship 

(6:15) From Engineer to CEO 

(7:14) Companies that she led: Elo Touch Systems (97-00), Capstone Turbine (02-03), Apexon (04-07) and NovaTorque (09-17).

(9:50) Changing geopolitics of manufacturing

(10:49) First Boards and Public Company Lessons (first board experience in Japan) "The soft skills are the hard part to do."

(15:48) On serving in private VC-backed boar...

(0:00) Intro, *Reference to the Boardroom Governance Summit (Aug 26-27, 2026) 

(2:42) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(3:28) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episode with Greg (E136) from 2024.

(5:14) Market Boom and AI Supercycle

(6:14) AI Is Changing Everything

(9:06) How does a VC use AI (venture business: sourcing, selection, and stewardship)

(12:13) Cloud and Startup Costs, rise of seed rounds and institutional angel investors

(15:13) JSV Launchpad, a 10-week, in-person summer program in SF from JSV for early-stage student AI founders 

(18:50) SaaSpocalypse Debate and AI Wa...

(0:00) Intro

(1:47) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:34) Start of interview 

(4:12) Laurie's origin story

(6:19) From Management Consulting (Accenture) to Product Innovation (Visa). "What they all had in common was that I got to start with a blank sheet of paper."

(8:52) Toward Venture Capital and Board Governance. From Sun Microsystems to Packet Design to investing.

(13:07) How she got interested in board governance. Her first board experience with Interactive Investor (cross-listed in US and UK)

(14:27) Joining Playground Global in 2019

(16:16) Tesla’s Day-Zero Boa...

(0:00) Intro

(1:34) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:21) Start of interview 

(3:20) Marie's origin story

(5:19) Career Path in Law and Governance. Her time at HP and Agilent Technologies.

(7:50) Transition to eBay 

(9:57) Shareholder Activism and eBay's Story *CNBC clip with Ryan Cohen

(14:42) Governance Roles and Board Memberships

(16:50) Her teaching positions on the role of the General Counsel 

(18:57) Chair and Director Succession

(23:37) On separating Chair and CEO roles

(25:44) Governance in Private Companies

(30:40) The Impact of AI...

(0:00) Intro

(1:24) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:11) Start of interview *reference to the BRI from LCDA

(3:54) Eddie's origin story

(6:27) Eddie's investment focus 

(7:44) The rise of AI and its impact on him

(9:06) Eddie’s roles in investment over the past 35 years (as GP and LP).

(8:32) His current endeavors: 1) Board member in mutual funds (Calvert Funds); 2) Independent director and Chair elect of Global X Venture Fund; 3) Chief Strategy Officer at Leadview Capital; and 4) Advisor at Bullpen.ai

(19:38) Dealing with AI hallucinations (e.g...

(0:00) Intro

(1:36) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:23) Start of interview

(3:11) Steve's origin story

(5:05) His Journey into Journalism

(6:02) The Rise of Governance Movement

(7:00) Transformation of Board Accountability. Reference to the 1992 Board coup at GM and other historical changes.

(10:24) Communication in Governance

(12:25) Establishing Gladstone Place Partners

(15:00) Crisis Management and Board Roles

(17:34) The Importance of Investor Relations

(20:40) Current Landscape of Shareholder Activism. 

(25:14) The Snap activism case. The impact of activism on companies with dual-class s...

(0:00) Intro, *Reference to prior episode with Ben Means (E105)

(1:36) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:23) Start of interview. 

(3:39) The Premise of his new book Family Business Law

(6:48) Understanding Shareholder Oppression

(10:17) The Three-Circle Model Explained

(13:34) The Personal Impact of Family Business

(16:24) Boards in Family Businesses

(18:09) The Importance of Voice

(20:47) Overlapping Family and Business Law *Reference to my episodes on HBO's Succession

(24:36) The Succession Challenge (transference to next generation or sale of company)

(28:18) Fiduciary Duties a...

(0:00) Intro

(1:40) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:26) Start of interview

(3:19) Eric's origin story

(5:00) The Lean Startup Journey

(10:23) About The Long-Term Stock Exchange

(18:00) Governance and Eric's New Book Incorruptible

(24:14) On Governance in Startups vs. Public Companies and so-called "best practices." "One of the key ideas in the book is that it's always too early until it's too late."

(28:37) Why the title Incorruptible. How to become an incorruptible force for good in the world.

(33:15) The board members' sacred obligation...

(0:00) Intro

(1:31) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:18) Start of interview

(3:10) Ben's origin story

(7:14) Embracing Nevada as Home. Joining University of Nevada Las Vegas (UNLV) in 2017.

(10:14) Joining Wilson Sonsini as Senior of Counsel (2026)

(13:00) The Reincorporation Movement. Competition between Delaware, Texas, Nevada and others. *Reference to E201 with Leo Strine

(14:28) Tracking Company Reincorporation Movements (at Business Law Prof Blog)

(16:02) The Texas vs. Nevada Landscape

(17:50) Reasons Companies Move Jurisdictions *Reference to E194 with Richard Blake on SV150 companies

(23:15...

(0:00) Intro

(1:35) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:22) Start of interview

(3:01) Joelle's origin story

(7:00) The Journey of Paradigm, the culture company she co-founded in 2014. "Our goal is to help organizations build healthy and high performing cultures where people from all backgrounds can come together, do their best work and thrive."

(11:15) On the current backlash against DEI.

(16:49) On Coinbase's "mission focused company" statement in 2020.

(21:53) The Politics of Company Culture, and Silicon Valley's approach.

(26:15) The Shift from Public to Private Companies

(0:00) Intro

(1:29) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:15) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episode with Leo Strine (E100)

(3:09) The Call of Conscience and The Current Moment (reference to his speech at the Weinberg Center in Oct of 2025)

(5:18) Skepticism about Credibility of the Elite Among the Youth

(7:02) The Ethical Muscle

(8:20) Acknowledging Discrimination

(8:56) The Climate Crisis

(12:37) Shifts in Delaware Law

(13:45) Return to Traditions. "What Delaware has done is return to its traditions that existed the entire time I was...

(0:00) Intro

(2:04) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:50) Start of interview

(3:51) Betsy's origin story

(9:14) The HealthSouth Board Scandal

(16:35) Her preference when picking what boards to serve on

(17:30) Insights VC-backed Boards and role and profile of the independent director in this context

(21:20) Insights on PE-backed Boards and role and profile of the independent director in this context

(25:35) Navigating International Board Dynamics. Her experience on boards of Volvo and Schneider Electric.

(30:57) The Rise of Private Markets. Example of Atlas Air...

(0:00) Intro

(1:19) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:05) Start of interview 

(2:48) Michael's origin story. Academic Journey and Early Influences. *reference to Correlation Ventures

(8:55) About his paper Board Dynamics over the Startup Life Cycle (2020) with Nadia Malenko. 

(11:30) Role of independent directors in VC-backed companies.

(16:05) Control Dynamics in Startup Boards

(17:21) The Evolution of Founder Control *Reference to E187 with Brad Feld (Oct 2025)

(28:11) The Future of Private Markets

(29:21) The Future of IPOs “What’s been missing from the IPO market since 1996 is the...

(0:00) Intro

(1:36) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:22) Start of interview

(3:21) Jennifer's origin story

(8:06) Journey to Treasury starting with Sara Lee Corporation, to Cisco and eBay (20-year career in Treasury)

(15:05) From Box to CFO roles at Coupons.com and Smartsheet (took it public as CFO)

(20:50) Building a Board Career: True Search, Auth0 (acq by Okta), Nerd Wallet, Wyze, Riskified and Klaviyo.

(23:40) Private vs. Public Boards

(27:47) On founder-led companies

(30:01) The Role of Audit Committees

(30:50) Navigating AI in...

(0:00) Intro

(1:45) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:31) Start of interview

(3:04) Jeff's origin story. Began career in investment banking at First Boston before transitioning to a 25-year run as CFO across media companies (King World, Nielsen) and tech (DoubleClick, Oracle).

(7:16) Transitioning to Bessemer Venture Partners.

(8:40) Focusing on his board career and audit committee member. ValueClick, Priceline (Booking Holdings).

(11:06) Growth in Public vs. Private Markets

(12:49) The State of European Entrepreneurial Ecosystem

(13:41) The Role of BVP CFO Council

(15:31) Understanding California...

(0:00) Intro

(2:00) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:45) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episodes with Joe (E1 from '20, E35 from '21, E84 from '23, E123 from '24 and E161 from '25)

(4:43) IPO Environment. Reference to paper by Mark Roe: Half the Firms, Double the Profits

(11:58) Elon Musk's $1 Trillion Pay Plan "We will pay you an outrageous amount if you achieve preposterous results."

(14:40) Delaware's Supreme Court Decision Reversing the Chancery's Rescission of Elon's $56B (now $139B) Tesla comp 

(20:08) The AI Bubble "We're either i...

(0:00) Intro

(1:31) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:18) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episodes with David (E24 from Nov 2020 and E159 from Dec 2024)

(3:22) 2025 highlights from the American College of Governance Counsel

(4:55) The Rome Conference on AI, Ethics, and the Future of Corporate Governance

(6:52) The Dual-Class Share Debate (reference to his paper Performance Leads Governance)

(12:06) Emerging Governance Structures in AI companies, including Public Benefit Corporations (PBCs) "mission driven"

(23:02) The AI Bubble Debate ("from a technology standpoint, I don't think we're in a...

(0:00) Intro.

(1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:14) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episodes/reports with Richard (E126 from Feb 2024 and E158 from Dec 2024)

(3:11) AI dominance in public and private markets

(4:14) About WSGR's 2025 SV150 Corporate Governance Report. Major Findings in DEI Disclosure (impact on board diversity)

(12:25) Broader ESG Changes and Challenges to SEC Climate Disclosure Rule

(16:03) California approach to climate risk disclosures (SB 253 and SB 261) and greenhouse gas emissions disclosure

(19:04) State vs. Federal Regulatory Landscape

(21:13) On SEC's change of...

(0:00) Intro

(1:21) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:08) Start of interview

(2:36) Michelle's origin story

(4:33) The Origins of Footnoted (started in 2003)

(6:36) Understanding SEC Filings and Disclosures

(7:20) The "Friday Night Dump"

(9:34) The State of Public vs. Private Markets

(12:40) The Rise of Private Markets and Challenges of Public Markets

(18:43) Red Flags in SEC Filings

(22:03) The Evolution of Executive Compensation and Elon Musk's Comp

(28:53) Egregious Corporate Governance examples: Sketchers.

(30:08) The problem of Related Party Transactions.

(0:00) Intro

(1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:16) Start of interview

(3:01) Erik's origin story

(6:10) His role at the Tippie College of Business at the University of Iowa.

(7:49) Exploring his book Catching Cheats

(9:39) About the field of forensic economics

(11:00) The Challenge of Private Market Data and Fraud *Reference to our Startup Litigation Digest

(16:24) Board Responsibilities in Fraud Detection

(19:03) Challenges for private company boards

(21:22) Insights and red flags from the Madoff Case

(26:30) Insider Trading and Its...

(0:00) Intro

(1:55) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:42) Start of interview

(3:56) Sue's origin story

(5:42) The Rise of Biotech and her Career Journey (BioRad, Dupont, Amersham and Affymetrix)

(12:04) Transition to Venture Capital (Mohr Davidow Ventures, GE Ventures)

(14:55) Evolution of Corporate Venture Capital (since ~2010) "They [now] represent about 28% of all VC dollars going into startups."

(19:32) Her Board Membership Journey (since 2000, as a board member at Affymetrix where she was an executive)

(21:12) The Impact of AI on Governance

(21:53) Cultural Differences in...

(0:00) Intro

(1:25) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:12) Start of interview

(3:01) Karen's origin story

(3:44) Early Career and Transition to Technology

(5:40) The Dot-Com Era and her time at Brobeck and later at Orrick.

(8:50) Her transition to Prosper Marketplace (Chris Larsen's company) 

(9:40) Her time at Box, Inc. and Apple *Reference to E179 with Jack Lazar

(13:14) Her journey to Venture Capital.

(14:16) Joining B Capital (in 2019) and the firm's investment focus

(16:16) The nature of B Capital's partnership with the Boston C...

(0:00) Intro to this episode

(1:34) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.

(2:21) Start of interview

(3:19) Joele Frank's origin story

(5:02) Anne Chapman's origin story

(8:41) The history and focus of the firm Joelle Frank (now has ~250 people, with offices in NYC and SF).

(12:46) Shareholder activism in today's market

(15:52) The Exxon Mobil activism case [see E28 with Aiesha Mastagni from CalSTRS, starting at 23:27]

(18:17) Say-on-Pay and Executive Compensation Dynamics "compensation is a real emotional topic"

(21:27) On mega grants.

(23:17) The evolution of...

(0:00) Intro

(1:24) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:11) Start of interview. *Reference to E91 (April 2023) for Steven's personal/professional background. 

(2:34) The current era of corporate law.

(3:39) Transition to Substack Publishing

(6:40) The DExit Phenomenon Explained

(11:35) Understanding Delaware's SB21 and Its Implications. His article, Course Correction for Controller Shareholder Transactions.

(19:53) The impact of SB21 on shareholder inspection rights (Section 220 litigation)

(23:20) Texas and Nevada: business-friendly but different environments

(25:55) The Future of Startups and Incorporation Choices *reference to a16z's Delaware exit (J...

(0:00) Intro

(1:36) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:23) Start of interview

(3:11) Brad's origin story

(4:54) Venture Capital Beginnings

(5:39) The Rise of the Internet

(8:10) His role in Softbank Technology Ventures and later Mobius Venture Capital. Reference to Heidi Roizen E6, E108 and E116

(12:26) Transition to Techstars and Foundry

(13:36) Origin and focus of his book Startup Boards. Reference to his blog post: Feld Thoughts. "Boards (and board members) for private companies operate on a bell curve" (some are excellent, some are horrific, and...

(0:00) Intro

(1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:16) Start of interview. *Reference to E181 (July 2025) for Steven's personal/professional background.

(3:14) IPOs and Market Trends. Including Klarna and Gemini.

(5:29) The Stay Private vs. Go Public Dilemma. Valuations and market health (examples of Airbnb and Figma)

(12:00) The Oracle post-earnings 36% price increase. *Reference to article by Tom Chavez: In Defense of Bubbles.

(14:14) AI, Data Centers, and Market Dynamics

(15:15) OpenAI's Future and Governance

(20:12) Power Dynamics in Big Tech companies (Mag 7).

(22:35) Tesla and...

(0:00) Intro

(1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:13) Start of interview

(2:53) Teresa's origin story

(4:30) Her career path at Deloitte (37-year career)

(7:40) Transition to Board Service

(8:37) Joining the board of ServiceNow

(10:57) Joining the board of Warby Parker and understanding Public Benefit Corporations (PBCs)

(14:48) Joining the boards of Snowflake and Docusign

(15:38) Insights on Audit Committees (*reference to E179 with Jack Lazar)

(17:10) Evolving Responsibilities of Audit Committees

(21:40) The Climate and ESG Discussion

(24:15) Boardroom Diversity Trends<...

(0:00) Intro

(1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:13) Start of interview

(2:51) Jonathan's origin story

(4:23) His Journey into Governance, initially via accounting with PwC and later with Lazard.

(6:17) Types of Governance Structures

(7:51) About his firm Current Capital Partners (M&A advisory, corporate management services, and PE investing).

(8:31) The Inspiration Behind his book On Boards: The Modern Playbook for Corporate Governance.

(10:44) Interviews that Shaped the Narrative. His standout: Admiral Michael Mullen.

(13:04) Target Audience for the Book

(14:48) The importance...

(0:00) Intro

(1:31) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:18) Start of interview. *Reference to E36 (June 2021) for personal/professional background, and E90 (March 2023)

(3:13) Celebrating 25 Years of the Weinberg Center

(3:47) Uncovering John Weinberg's 1948 Thesis. Details for the Symposium at the Weinberg Center on Oct 9, 2025.

(6:12) The role of boards and directors from a historical perspective. *Reference to Gilson and Gordon's article on Boards 3.0.

(8:17) The contribution of the Weinbergs to corporate governance: Sydney led Goldman Sachs from 1930 to 1969,  and John led GS from 1976-1990.

(14:04) The Relevance o...

(0:00) Intro

(1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:13) Start of interview *mention of my participation in the Board Summit in Chile (Nov 2025)

(3:40) Tina's origin story

(6:19) From Germany to Latin America with Beiersdorf

(10:14) Her time with D&S and Walmart Chile 

(11:38) Her start with board memberships

(14:23) The Role of Independent Directors in Family-Owned Businesses

(19:44) Navigating Boardroom Challenges

(22:54) The Role of Pension Funds in Chile Nominating Independent Directors

(29:52) Evolving Diversity on Boards

(34:20) Teaching and Mentoring Future L...

(0:00) Intro

(1:28) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:15) Start of interview

(3:17) Steven's origin story

(7:09) The AI Market Explosion

(10:07) Introducing Alpha: the company he leads. 

(16:01) On Events and Board Forums: "There is going to be a premium on IRL really moving forward because the bar is going to be so high" 

(17:50) The Necessity of Tech-Savvy Directors

(19:58) Steven's State of the Art of AI for directors. "The AI wave is driven by 4 forces: 1) Compute (the most important), 2) Data, 3) Algorithms, and 4) Robotics."

...

(0:00) Intro

(1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:00) Start of interview

(2:36) Erik's origin story

(4:14) Discussing Foreign Private Issuers (FPIs): His article "SEC Revisits Foreign Private Issuer Eligibility" (June 2025)

(16:45) The Rise of AI and Its Implications. Discussion on "AI Washing"

(19:30) Distinguishing statutory mandates between the SEC, FTC, and DOJ on regulatory oversight of AI

(20:40) The evolving crypto regulatory landscape "It's a pretty big sea change" "[Now it's] all about bright line rules (vs flexible standards) and trying to provide a lot more certainty...