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SpyTalk lives at the intersection of intelligence operations, foreign policy, homeland security, and military strategy. Hosted by veteran national security journalists Jeff Stein, Michael Isikoff and Karen J. Greenberg, the podcast features exclusives by SpyTalk’s roster of longtime reporters, news and profiles of US and foreign spymasters, and interviews with policymakers and expert authors. There’s nothing quite like it—a place for experts and laypersons alike, who enjoy national security scoops and insights by SpyTalk's subject matter experts.  For more SpyTalk go to: https://www.spytalk.co/

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An Assassination on Embassy Row
Yesterday at 8:00 PM

Investigative reporter John Dinges tells how Henry Kissinger failed to prevent Chile’s 1976 murder of Orlando Letelier in downtown D.C.

More from John Dinges

When Terrorists Struck in the Heart of Washington, D.C. | SpyTalk

Books by author John Dinges




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The Tech Bro Gods of War
09/25/2026

Sharon Weinberger on how Big Tech is fueling the future of war.


Sharon Weinberger talks about her latest book Valley of Death

How Big Tech Is Fueling the Future of War.




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Terror’s New Faces
09/18/2026

A greater array of better-armed threats confronts the US than on 9/11.

Terrorism and insurgency expert Bruce Hoffman joins the podcast to discuss the current state of Al-Qaeda and its affiliates in the world


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25 Years of Counterterrorism
09/09/2026

Peter Bergen on the triumphs and tragedies wrought by 9/11.

More from our guest:

https://www.peterbergen.com/ 


His latest book:

All the Presidents' Wars

Twenty-Five Years of America's War on Terror - Bookshop.org US 


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How to Recruit a Traitor
09/04/2026

Former CIA operations officer and member of CIA's Senior Intelligence Service (SIS-3) turned author, Jim Lawler joins Micheal to discuss real world espionage, spy recruitment, and his latest spy novel.

The Traitor’s Tale by Jim Lawler

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U.S. Adversaries Exploit Intel Failures
08/28/2026

Former CIA Chief Learning Officer Steve Hirsch tells how Russia, China, and Iran exploit the cracks in US intelligence.


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The World's First Super-terrorist
08/21/2026

Joby Warrick joined SpyTalk to talk about “The Jackal: The Rise and Fall of Carlos, the World’s First Super-Terrorist.”

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The Jackal

The Rise and Fall of Carlos, the World's First


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Gunfight at the CIA Corral
08/17/2026

Political pressure on the spy agency is forcing people out, says former senior analyst Julia Curlee. 

More From Julia Curlee at | https://www.lawfaremedia.org/contributors/jcurlee 


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Kash Patel’s Strange Trips
08/07/2026

Former FBI executive Lauren Anderson on the Director’s China, Russia outreaches.

Lauren C. Anderson | https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurencandersonintl/

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The Nord Stream Conspiracy
07/31/2026

Wall Street Journal reporter Bojan Pancevski unveils the astounding story of Ukraine’s sabotage of the Russian pipeline.

Plus, Jeff and Michael discuss Jay Clayton, Todd Blanche, and more.

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The Nord Stream Conspiracy 


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Who’s Running US Intelligence?
07/24/2026

Atlantic staff writer Shane Harris drills down on the changes roiling the ODNI and CIA.


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Trumpworld’s Dystopian World of Terror
07/18/2026

Terrorism expert Colin Clarke fact-checks the administration’s claims on leftwing extremism and election security.

More from our guest: Colin P. Clarke

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The Reporter and the China Trap
07/03/2026

Tom LoBianco answered an ad for a writer and then things went south. 


Tom LoBianco is a veteran national politics reporter and editor of 24sight News, the independent news site on Substack.

24sight's scoops have been featured in The New York Times, CNN, ABC News, the Reddit front page, the Columbia Journalism Review and many other outlets.


Tom LoBianco

https://www.24sight.news/ 


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War-Ender Weapons
06/26/2026

Seeing-eye bombs were supposed to limit civilian casualties. Jeffrey Stern, author of “The Warhead,” explains why they didn’t. 

Jeffrey Stern

The Warhead

https://www.jeffreyestern.com/books 


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Trump's Hatchet Man Atop US Intelligence
06/20/2026

New York Times Intelligence Reporter Julian Barnes on the Rise of Bill Pulte.

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Julian E. Barnes 

Writes about the American intelligence community, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and other spy agencies, as well as broader national and international security issues. His stories seek to break news about what intelligence officials are thinking, and occasionally doing, and to explain the U.S. perspective on security matters.

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How Trump Broke the ODNI
06/12/2026

Former senior CIA analyst David Kanin on the crises in US intelligence.


David Kanin is a retired CIA senior analyst and member of the Senior Intelligence Service.

https://commonsensecoalition.net/about-csc/

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How a Terror Case Fizzled
06/05/2026

Former Gitmo prosecutor Michael Lebowitz takes us inside the nuclear plot that never was.

Mike Lebowitz is one of America’s few war-crimes prosecutors with front-line counterterrorism experience. A former senior attorney at the Department of Justice’s National Security Division, he spent nearly a decade prosecuting cases at Guantanamo Bay, including the 9/11, USS Cole, and top Al Qaeda commander trials. A US Army combat veteran and former Pathfinder unit paratrooper officer, Lebowitz also served as a senior legal advisor to US Army Cyber Command. He has been featured or quoted by the Washington Post, Wall Street Jour...


Pod Save Our National Security with Tommy Vietor
05/29/2026

Former Obama speechwriter Tommy Vietor talks about energizing Dems on vital US foreign policy issues.

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Is Havana Up For Grabs?
05/22/2026

Cuba intervention expert Peter Kornbluh joins SpyTalk to discuss Trump’s pressure campaign.

Peter Kornbluh | National Security Archive 

Peter Kornbluh, Senior Analyst, has worked at the Archive since April 1986. He currently directs the Archive's Cuba and Chile Documentation Projects. He was co-director of the Iran-Contra documentation project and director of the Archive's project on U.S. policy toward Nicaragua. From 1990-1999, he taught at Columbia University as an adjunct assistant professor of international and public affairs.

Cuba: Declassified Records on the Brothers to the Rescue Shootdown | National Security Archive

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The Ultimate Intelligence Fiasco
05/15/2026

Ex-CIA operative Jerry Watson and journalist Bob Drogin tell the disastrous story of Curveball and its relevance to today’s war against Iran.

The US invaded Iraq after the based on bogus intel. Much of that intel was fabricated by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi an Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball."

More from our guests:

Bob Drogin | Los Angeles Times 

A CIA Officer Returns to Iraq and Uncovers Embarrassing Details of the Spy Agency’s WMD Debacle

Curveball

Jerry Watson | https://www.criticalanswers.net/ 


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Putin in Peril?
05/08/2026

Former CIA Russia hand Sean Wiswesser assesses Putin’s grip on his security services amid rumors of coups. 

Sean Wiswesser is a Russian intelligence and espionage expert, retired CIA senior ops officer, and author.

His latest book, Tradecraft, Tactics, and Dirty Tricks: Russian Intelligence and Putin's Secret War, is out now.

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JFK’s Fatal Mistake
05/01/2026

Veteran journalist Jack Cheevers takes another look at President Kennedy’s ambivalent role in the overthrow and assassination of South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem.

Check out Kennedy’ Coup by Jack Cheevers

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Deciphering the Iran War Talks
04/23/2026

A former Pakistani ambassador to the US says the more Trump bashes Iran, the more it will dig in.

Husain Haqqani joins SpyTalk to discuss the state of diplomacy between Iran and the US.


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A Spy's Iran
04/17/2026

Former CIA Iran spy recruiter Mark Fowler says the “peace deal” is not the end of the war. He shares his analysis of the recent peace talks based on his understanding of how Iranians negotiate.

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Stone Age Tactics
04/10/2026

Former CENTCOM commander Gen. Joseph Votel says military leaders should refuse a Trump order to bomb Iran "back to the Stone Ages" 

Joseph Leonard Votel is a retired four-star general in the United States Army who was commander of United States Central Command from March 2016 to March 2019. Before that, he served as commander of the United States Special Operations Command.

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Scapegoats with Yossi Melman
04/03/2026

Trump and Netanyahu finger others for Iran war problems.  

SpyTalk speaks with Yossi Melman, an investigative journalist with The Jerusalem Post about issues USA and Israel have with the methods and objectives of the war.

More from Yossi Melman | Yossi Melman | The Jerusalem Post | www.yossimelman.com | (@yossi_melman)



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Eve of Destruction
03/27/2026

Former CIA operative and Senior DOD Official Mick Mulroy Details Trump’s Bad Options on Iran.

https://www.loboinstitute.org/


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Identity Crisis
03/21/2026

Acclaimed Iranian American writer Hooman Majd talks about the likely future of the Islamic Republic.

Hooman Majd is an Iranian-born American journalist, author, and political commentator focused on Iranian affairs. 

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Minister without Portfolio: Memoir of a Reluctant Exile


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Ballistic Diplomacy in Iran
03/13/2026

Ex-CIA op sees no end in sight for Iran conflict. 

"What you're now looking at is perpetual war," says Reuel Gerecht, former Iran target officer in SpyTalk interview.  



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Trump's Wars Raise Stakes For Taiwan
03/05/2026

Former top intel operative David Shedd says it's now "50-50" Xi will invade next year.

David Shedd

The Great Heist China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets


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War Fever
02/27/2026

Trump, Iran at fateful crossroads, top Middle East expert Jon Alterman says on the SpyTalk podcast.

Jon Alterman — https://www.csis.org/people/jon-b-alterman


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Who Is on the DOJ's Secret "Domestic Terror" List
02/21/2026

Congressmember Mary Gay Scanlon speaks with SpyTalk's Michael Isikoff about the secretive government list of “domestic terrorist groups” Attorney General all but confirmed the existence of in her recent trip to The Hill.

Then Karen Greenberg and Michael Isikoff talk with writer and retired American FBI agent, Mike German about the implications and consequences of the NSPM7 memo and the FISA court.




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What’s Going on with Tulsi Gabbard?
02/13/2026

Former senior CIA official Larry Pfeiffer discusses the DNI’s strange behavior with SpyTalk hosts Jeff Stein, Michael Isikoff and Karen Greenberg.

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The New Wizards of Espionage
02/05/2026

How A.I. is revolutionizing the spies’—and spy catchers’—toolkits. With ex-CIA officer Aaron Brown.

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Terror’s Comeback
01/31/2026

ISIS and other Afghan-based terror groups are growing stronger, a new UN report says. Expert Colin Clarke explains why.


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Battlefield Greenland
01/23/2026

Former senior Danish intelligence officer Jacob Kaarsbo talks about Trump’s murky designs on Greenland and NATO.

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Will the Iranian Regime Survive?
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#192
01/16/2026

Two prominent Iranian-American journalists, Jason Rezaian of the Washington Post and Hooman Majd of NBC News, say the regime may be losing its grip.

Jason Rezaian 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jason-rezaian/

Hooman Majd

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Gulp of America
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#191
01/09/2026

CIA in Venezuela, Cuba and Beyond

With Luis Rueda

https://www.linkedin.com/in/luis-rueda-b060a217/

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Peter Eisner

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Her Grandfather Was a Nazi Spy
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#190
01/02/2026

Christine Kuehn talks about her shocking discovery in “Family of Spies" 

Family of Spies
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250344465/familyofspies/

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The House of Secrets
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#189
12/19/2025

Tom Blanton talks about 40 years of unearthing CIA plots at the National Security Archive.

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