No Sanity Required

What happens when God calls you to step outside your comfort zone and open your home to a child in need? Matt “Muggs” and Cara Jones join us to share their journey from life in Wisconsin to Snowbird, and how God led them to foster care and guardianship as empty nesters.

We talk about the realities of foster care, loving children through trauma, and the importance of having a community that comes alongside foster families. Their story is a reminder that following Jesus often means saying yes when a need is placed right in front of us.

Some dreams leave you laughing, while others leave you unsettled, fearful, and wondering what they mean. This week, Brody and JB recap the Marriage Conference before diving into dreams, visions, sleep paralysis, and spiritual warfare. How do we know what’s from God, what’s simply our minds at work, and what could be demonic? They discuss the reality of spiritual warfare, how the enemy uses fear and deception, and why Biblical discernment matters when navigating supernatural experiences. Ultimately, they explore how to guard our minds, take our thoughts captive, and stand firm in the truth of God's Word.

How do we keep from going to extremes in a world that constantly pushes them? From health trends to theological debates and social media outrage, Brody and JB talk about the importance of moderation, Biblical discernment, and self-control. We explore how to stand firm in truth, love people well, and keep the Gospel at the center of it all.

We also discuss how our beliefs shape the way we treat others and how it’s possible to care deeply about theology while missing the importance of loving people well. Through Scripture and real-life experiences, we unpack what it...

 A normal day can change everything in a matter of seconds. After a fatal accident at Six Flags hits close to home, Brody sits down with JB for an raw conversation about trauma, fear, and the questions that come when tragedy strikes. We talk about the effects of post-traumatic stress, how to process difficult experiences, and why it’s important to be mindful of what we consume on social media. We also explore how tragedy can shift our priorities and remind us of what matters most. Even when we don’t understand why things happen, we can turn to praye...

College isn’t the only path to a successful career. Joseph Wainwright joins us to talk about the value of skilled trades, the cost of the college-first mindset, and how young adults can find meaningful work without taking on unnecessary debt. From his own journey in the trades to the growing demand for skilled workers, Joseph shares why these careers deserve a second look.

We also explore what Scripture says about craftsmanship, work as worship, and the importance of helping the next generation recognize their God-given gifts. Whether you’re a parent helping your child navigate their futu...

The more you have, the more you can find yourself wanting. Contentment can be hard to find in a world that constantly tells us we need more. In this episode, we talk about how comparison, greed, and unrealistic expectations steal our joy and keep us from appreciating what God has already given us. Through Scripture and real-life experiences, Brody and JB explore what it means to trust God's provision, practice gratitude, and fight for contentment in every season of life. From relationships and finances to seasons of suffering, we discuss how to find joy in our circumstances without constantly...

The Bible is full of details that are easy to miss—but what if they’re pointing us to something bigger? In this episode, we talk about motifs and imagery in Scripture and how repeated pictures can help us better understand the Gospel.

We look at vineyards, shepherds, light, darkness, and water, with a special focus on scenes in John 2 and John 4. We also talk about how to study these patterns with humility, avoid over-spiritualizing the text, and slow down enough to actually notice what Scripture is saying.

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What if the skills you already have could become a doorway for the Gospel? In this episode, Spencer Davis and Brody Holloway share how Snowbird’s experience in wilderness training opened unexpected doors to serve communities in a remote region of the Himalayas.

From swift-water rescue training to unexpected partnerships, practical skills created opportunities to build relationships and share Christ in places where traditional missions can be difficult. We also talk about the 10/40 window, indigenous church planting, the cost for local believers, and stories of people encountering Jesus through dreams and visions.

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God is sovereign but what does that mean when life doesn’t make sense? Brody uses Scripture, personal stories, and his own experiences to unpack God’s sovereignty and providence, showing how God works through suffering, uncertainty, and unexpected circumstances.

We look at Joseph, the cross, and the tension between God’s sovereignty and human responsibility. Brody also shares personal stories of tragedy, unexpected detours, prayer, and the chain of events that eventually led to Snowbird.

If you’ve ever wondered what God is doing in the middle of a hard season, this conversation will challeng...

In this bonus episode, we hear from Brody as he speaks at Red Oak Church on John 1:35-51 and the eyewitness accounts of Jesus and who He really is.

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What if the comfortable choice is actually keeping you from what God is calling you to do?

In this episode Brody and JB sit down with a longtime friend, Michael Talley to hear how combat deployments, hard leadership decisions, and family priorities shaped his path from the Air Force to pastoral ministry. Michael shares some wild stories from his time in the military and how God eventually led him to leave the Air Force and step into ministry. He later walked away from a stable church position to plant a church in Denver during COVID with a...

What do energy drinks, a skeptical parent, marriage, and grief have in common? They’re all part of one conversation about what a real “SWO reset” looks like.

We sit down with Ginger, a camp nurse, to talk about protecting kids from dehydration, heat exhaustion, and concussions. But the conversation goes deeper when she shares her story of when she came to SWO wondering if the camp was even trustworthy, at one point questioning whether it was a cult. By the end of the week, she watched her daughter’s faith take root and saw God do somethin...

In Part 2 of our conversation with Kyle, he continues sharing his journey from Marine infantry deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan to a difficult battle with alcohol, marriage strain, and identity. Brody and Kyle talk honestly about combat, loss, coming home, and what happens when you try to carry everything on your own.

The conversation turns to faith and finding his way back to God through a family health scare, honest friendships, and a renewed life of prayer. Kyle shares how he learned he didn’t have to “get right” before coming to God.

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What does real firearms training look like and what can it teach us beyond the range?

Brody sits down with Kyle to talk about training Snowbird’s security team, active shooter readiness, and why repetition, practical skills, and humility matter. Kyle also shares about his work with Diplomatic Security Services and training Marines for embassy security.

Then the conversation goes deeper as Kyle opens up about combat, trauma, and how the Gospel changed his life through Scripture, time, and brotherhood.

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Your safety is shaped by the habits you practice every day. In this bonus episode, Brody sits down with Scott Bryson, a former Secret Service Counter Assault Team operator, to talk about staying calm, aware, and prepared in everyday life.

We talk about situational awareness, de-escalation, recognizing warning signs, and practical safety tips for women, families, and young adults. Scott also shares lessons from protection work, self-defense, school safety, and why being prepared isn’t about living in fear—it’s about knowing what to do when it matters.

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What if bivocational ministry isn’t a backup plan, but a calling?

Brody sits down with Jon Owens to talk about pastoring a rural church while also working in construction. Jon shares his story, the realities of bivocational ministry, and why faithfulness, steady preaching, and staying rooted in one community matter. He offers a humble and encouraging perspective on serving a church while working a full-time job.

From the job site to the pulpit, Jon gives an honest look at what bivocational ministry really looks like.

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Can a church really shepherd people it doesn’t know? In this episode, Brody sits down with Jonge Tate to challenge the way we think about church, leadership, and success.

They talk about the problems with chasing numbers, the multi-site church model, and why healthy churches need real pastors, real relationships, and shared leadership. Jonge also shares the lessons behind Bedrock’s church planting journey, including why sending your best leaders away may be one of the hardest and most faithful things a church can do.

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In this episode, Brody sits down with our friend Jordan Bird to talk about the foster care crisis and why the church cannot ignore the needs of vulnerable children. Jordan shares his journey into foster care ministry and helps us understand the real challenges foster families and children face every day.

We also discuss what Scripture teaches about caring for vulnerable people and explore practical ways anyone can help—through prayer, meals, encouragement, respite care, and supporting foster families in their community.

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In this episode, Brody and Adam Garner sit down with seminary-trained physician and maternal-fetal medicine specialist Jesse Cottrell to discuss the intersection of Biblical truth and high-risk pregnancy care. From miscarriage, abortion, and adoption to suffering, hope, and the authority of Scripture, Jesse shares how his faith shapes the way he cares for patients and navigates some of life's hardest conversations. This is a thoughtful discussion on medicine, theology, and living out the Gospel in the real world.

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Great ministries aren't built around one personality. They're built on humble leaders who are committed to the mission. In this episode, Brooke Lovingoode interviews Brody and JB to talk about developing healthy leadership, raising up the next generation, handling feedback with humility, and why caring more about God's glory than personal credit creates a ministry that lasts.

Whether you lead a church, ministry, or team, you'll walk away with practical encouragement on leading with humility, investing in others, and staying rooted in Christ when the pressure is on.

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What starts as a bizarre Afghanistan story involving a bag of heroin and a chained-up monkey quickly turns into a raw conversation about combat, grief, and the wounds that follow veterans home. In this episode, Brody and Gar Bozeman unpack PTSD, moral injury, leadership loss, childhood trauma, and why healing requires more than time—it requires community, honest conversations, and a biblical view of suffering and hope. Whether you've worn the uniform or love someone who has, this episode is a powerful reminder that trauma doesn't have to write the final chapter.

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Why are Catholic and Eastern Orthodox voices gaining so much attention online? In this episode, we talk with John Pawlik about the key differences between Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism, why these traditions are appealing to so many people today, and how internet debates can shape our understanding of faith. We also explore John 6, what Jesus meant by "eat My flesh and drink My blood," and why true faith in Christ remains at the center of the gospel. Join us for a thoughtful, Bible-centered conversation on church history, worship, and following Jesus with truth and discernment.

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In this bonus episode, Brody sits down with Corey and Brittany Pendergrass to talk about the joys and challenges of building a blended family. From step-parenting and discipline to marriage, co-parenting, and earning trust, they share practical, Gospel-centered wisdom for creating a home marked by grace, unity, and stability.

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In this episode, Brody and Carter explore what biblical masculinity really looks like—not as culture defines it, but as Scripture does. They talk about strength, leadership, grace, discipline, mentorship, and why real manhood is marked by both courage and love. Whether you're wrestling with purpose, faith, or what it means to follow Christ as a man, this conversation offers practical, biblical encouragement.

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In this episode, we answer listener questions about codependency and sit down with Cassie Boudreaux to hear her story of growing up in a family affected by addiction. Cassie shares how discovering her mom’s hidden addiction challenged her faith, shaped her understanding of boundaries, and taught her what it means to love someone without trying to rescue them.

Together, we talk about codependency, family relationships, addiction, and how to trust Christ when someone you care about is struggling. This conversation offers practical encouragement for anyone learning to set healthy boundaries while continuing to love others well.

Codependency often starts with good intentions—close friendships, deep trust, and a desire to support one another. But when we begin looking to another person for our identity, security, or fulfillment, relationships can become unhealthy. In this episode, Brody and JB unpack what codependency looks like in friendships, mentoring relationships, and family dynamics, discuss common warning signs, and share practical, biblical steps for building healthy boundaries and Christ-centered relationships.

Rebuilding a Life After Abuse | Interview with Denise Morris

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In this episode, Brody and JB sit down with Carter Warn, a new voice on NSR but an integral member of the Snowbird family.

Carter shares how God led him from media ministry to discipling students at Snowbird, using unexpected opportunities, uncertainty, and anxiety to shape his path along the way.

Together, they discuss analysis paralysis, honoring commitments, the influence of social media, and what it looks like to trust God's direction one step at a time. Through personal stories, practical wisdom, and reflections on Psalm 1, Carter encourages listeners to stay rooted in Scripture and...

What does it take to build a staff team that serves students well? In this episode, Jb interviews Snowbird summer staff members to talk about leadership, discipleship, and the culture that shapes camp life. From first-year staff to returning leaders, you'll hear stories of growth, hard work, and the lessons learned while serving behind the scenes.

We discuss how programs like LMNT help develop future leaders, why humility and accountability are essential for a healthy team, and what it looks like to pursue excellence in ministry without compromising character. This conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at how...

Part 2 of our conversation with former Cherokee County Sheriff Keith “Bumper” Lovin covers the capture of Eric Rudolph and the chaos that followed his arrest in western North Carolina. Keith shares firsthand stories from the manhunt, the face-to-face identification, and the pressure of managing one of the country’s most high-profile fugitives in a small-town jail.

We also discuss the investigation, the challenges of searching the Appalachian Mountains, and the questions that still remain about Rudolph’s years on the run.

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Former Sheriff Keith Lovin — the man who helped capture Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph — joins No Sanity Required for Part 1 of a powerful two-part series. From growing up in western North Carolina to surviving deadly shootouts, high-risk manhunts, and split-second decisions under fire, Keith a.k.a. Bumper shares the real stories behind a lifetime in law enforcement. This episode offers a firsthand look at the realities of police work, the pressure of leadership, and the moments that stayed with him long after the sirens faded.

Rudolf, Beethoven, and The Chainsaw Man

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In this episode, JB shares the full story of competing in a Mr. Beast survival challenge. She shares some stories from blindfolded bus rides and freezing nights to surviving 17 days on little food and constant pressure. 

We talk about what the experience was really like behind the scenes, how journaling and Scripture helped her stay grounded, and why stepping away from phones and distractions brought unexpected clarity. JB also reflects on friendships formed during the challenge, respectful conversations with people who see the world differently, and the moment she had to decide whether staying longer was worth i...

After Respond, we kept the conversation going. Amy Davis joins us to talk about God’s faithfulness in every season, through marriage, motherhood, and ministry, and how Jesus meets us in messy, real-life stories.

We get honest about identity in Christ, navigating expectations in marriage, and parenting teens with wisdom and courage. We also touch on church hurt, blended families, and simple rhythms that help you stay grounded in God’s love.

If you need practical, Bible-centered encouragement for everyday life, this conversation is for you.

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In this episode, Brody talks with former Secret Service agent Scott “Mooch” Bryson about the recent threat against President Trump. They break down how security actually works in a hotel and why agents can’t just lock everything down.

They also explain layered security, how multiple teams and strategies are designed to stop a threat before it reaches its target and why what looks chaotic on camera can still be controlled and effective.

Finally, they zoom out to discuss leadership under pressure and the broader cultural situation.

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We read your comments, texts, and questions and follow them into honest conversations about faith, failure, and everyday discipleship. From tough topics like sin, leadership, and humility to lighter moments with old stories and even conspiracy theories, this episode keeps it real. We also share simple, practical habits for Bible reading and journaling. Tune in for an episode that addresses your comments and questions!

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Daniel 3 isn’t just a familiar story, it’s about pressure to conform and the cost of staying faithful. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego face a culture that demands compromise, and their response is simple: God can deliver, but even if He doesn’t, they won’t bow.

Brody and JB talk about what that kind of faith looks like today, how cultural pressure shows up, and why God’s presence matters more than an easy way out. 

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In this episode, Brody invites his brother Duke and cousin Paco to share unfiltered stories behind Snowbird’s early days and stories from their upbringing. From a chaotic frat house rescue to a near-fatal hornet sting, they revisit the intense moments that shaped their lives. Through it all, they highlight what’s never changed: a mission rooted in the Gospel, strong relationships, and faithful teaching.

Rudolf, Beethoven, and The Chainsaw Man

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Israel is a very hot topic right now, and many Christians aren’t sure what to think. In this episode, Brody and JB step back from politics and let the Bible lead. We build a simple, Gospel-centered framework for understanding Israel, the church, and God’s promises.

They walk through Genesis 12, Galatians 3, and Romans 9–11 to see how Scripture defines Israel, how Jesus fulfills its story, and how Jews and Gentiles are brought together as one people of God.

We also address modern anti-semitism and why it has no place in the life of a Christian. The go...

In this bonus episode, Brody has his younger brother Duke on to share his perspective on the night everything changed. As a follow-up to What My Father’s Fall Taught Me, Duke shares what it was like watching their dad leave that night, the shock of everything that followed, and how those next few days played out.

They talk about the pain of how things were handled, the impact it had on their faith and trust in the church, and the slow process of rebuilding. From wrestling with resentment to finding strength in brotherhood and mentorship, this is...

This episode is a follow-up to Monday’s conversation, where JB and Brody simplify end times views and clear up confusing language. We briefly walk through the main perspectives, explain where they differ, and focus on what matters most.

No hype or fear just a clear and hopeful look at what Christians agree on: Jesus is coming back, and God will make all things new.

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End times talk often sparks fear, arguments, or wild speculation, but it doesn’t have to.

This episode offers a calm, Bible-centered conversation about the end times without hype or endless debates. Brody and JB break down the major Christian views: premillennial, amillennial, and postmillennial. They explain key ideas like the rapture, tribulation, and the millennium, and look at passages like 1 Thessalonians 4, Matthew 24, and Revelation 20.

They also share how believers should think about Israel and the church. Above all, they keep coming back to what Scripture emphasizes most: endurance, faithfulness, and the mission of the go...